Charters Towers has its own Historical Society - write to the Charters Towers and Dalrymple Family History Association, PO Box 783, Charters Towers 4820. The Northern Miner is their newspaper. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] LINCOLN & PARKER of Charters Towers? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] LINCOLN & PARKER of Charters Towers? > > >> Marg, If you are chasing cemetery records for charters towers.. you >> will >> have to call the regional council they hold the records for the >> cemetery. >> >> Charters Towers Regional Council >> >> (07) 4761 5300 > > > Hi Sue > > Thanks for this info .................. I've got sidetracked > completely............ I did google up the Charters Towers Library , > What a magnificent building ! Reminded me of some of the buildings > in Wharf St Maryborough... which are quite stunning ,especially the > building that houses the LDS and the Maryborough FHS and the Court > House across the road > The Bellevue Hotel that used to be in Brisbane was a stunning looking > building too > > There is nothing like these any where around where I live . Maitland > has some nice old buildings but none could be called stunning / > magnificent . > > Bye > > MargM > QLD List Admin > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM

Marg, No worries.. I had a bit of trouble finding them myself a while back.. so when I saw the question I thought I had better save you the 400 phone calls!! Sue.

Hi Jeanette, the following is information transcribed from the convict records of William Atkinson in Tasmania. as per the ship "John Brewer" Entry : 4470 ATIKINSON, William Tried in Lancaster Salford Sessions on 24th May 1841. Height 5 feet 10 1/2 Age 26 Years Sentence 10 Years Religion : P Read and Write : B Single No Children Crime: Stealing Money from a Public House in Alsham Street Manchester. Surgeons Report : Good Trade: Carpenter and Joiner Native Place : Liverpool Information further to the voyage of the :"John Brewer" Arrived 6th April 1842 in VDL Sailed on 5th December 1841 frin Sheerness Length of Voyage: 122 days 200 Convicts Embarked from England 198 Arrived in Tasmania Master : Robert Brown Surgeon: George E Forman. I hope that this helps Sue.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] LINCOLN & PARKER of Charters Towers? > Marg, If you are chasing cemetery records for charters towers.. you > will > have to call the regional council they hold the records for the > cemetery. > > Charters Towers Regional Council > > (07) 4761 5300 Hi Sue Thanks for this info .................. I've got sidetracked completely............ I did google up the Charters Towers Library , What a magnificent building ! Reminded me of some of the buildings in Wharf St Maryborough... which are quite stunning ,especially the building that houses the LDS and the Maryborough FHS and the Court House across the road The Bellevue Hotel that used to be in Brisbane was a stunning looking building too There is nothing like these any where around where I live . Maitland has some nice old buildings but none could be called stunning / magnificent . Bye MargM QLD List Admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Convict Ships to Australia, 1839-1846-1841 JOHN BREWER > Here's the link for John Brewer, 1841. > Jenelle. > http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/convicts1839-46.htm > I was looking at the arrival date in http://www.convictcentral.com/ there you go ....................... Might be some additional info in http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home There was a William AITKINSON , convict , per John Brewer ?? http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 Bye MargM QLD List Admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Ships in the 1800s > Jeanette further to my first email, there was a convict ship called > "john > Brewer" arrived 1841. Hi Jenelle. Are you sure ? There was a convict transport of this name that arrived in VDL 6 Apr 1842 . Possible the same vessel docked at Sydney 24 Apr 1842 ? bye MargM QLD List Admin

Hi Kay, If you had anyone omitted from death certificates you can get them changed We were left off our fathers death certificate and we had to produce all certificates to prove who we were and that he was really our father and the death certificate was changed. June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Clarke" <kaynkev@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Notices - 15 Sept 1980 - BAUER > Hi Barbara > > Sorry, it wasn't your family. My late husband's family didn't acknowledge > he'd even existed in their father's family notice. My son jumped up and > down about his father's name being omitted and then they had to put in > another notice....including their deceased brother's name - but it didn't > extend to his children. Families. > > The dysfunctional family I mentioned wasn't mine...but known to me. There > are so many stories that could be related on these issues. > > Kay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maurie O'Connor" <maurie777@ozemail.com.au> > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:33 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Notices - 15 Sept 1980 - BAUER > > >> "I know for myself of a case where a dysfunctional family..." >> >> You aren't talking about my family, are you? >> >> My sister arranged my dad's funeral and inserted notices - "dearly >> beloved >> husband of (first wife/our mother)" and no mention at all of his second >> wife >> of 34 years. >> >> Barbara > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM

Thank you, Marg and Jenelle. She'll be overjoyed to hear this info. Jeanette

Here's the link for John Brewer, 1841. Jenelle. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/convicts1839-46.htm

Jeanette further to my first email, there was a convict ship called "john Brewer" arrived 1841. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & J Hartley" <barjeanzoe@aanet.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Ships in the 1800s > Hello everyone, > I have a rellie, without a computer and living on a cattle property, > trying to find out about a ship that came out from the U.K. > possibly in the 1850s named "John Brewer" or "John Banver" or similar. > Does anyone know where I can look to help her out? Her ancestor's name was > William Thomas Atkinson. > Thank you > Jeanette Hartley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM

Jeanette, try the State Archives of Queensland 9google it), click on indexes see assisted immigration - 2 lots of dates to check. There is a John Brewer Reef. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & J Hartley" <barjeanzoe@aanet.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Ships in the 1800s > Hello everyone, > I have a rellie, without a computer and living on a cattle property, > trying to find out about a ship that came out from the U.K. > possibly in the 1850s named "John Brewer" or "John Banver" or similar. > Does anyone know where I can look to help her out? Her ancestor's name was > William Thomas Atkinson. > Thank you > Jeanette Hartley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM

Hello everyone, I have a rellie, without a computer and living on a cattle property, trying to find out about a ship that came out from the U.K. possibly in the 1850s named "John Brewer" or "John Banver" or similar. Does anyone know where I can look to help her out? Her ancestor's name was William Thomas Atkinson. Thank you Jeanette Hartley

Hi list, for those with English ancestry further updates added to the Yesterdays site, link below, including further records under Law and Order. Many of these as well as reporting the nature (and some are not very nice) and statements given regarding the crime also record removals and bastardy cases not listed in the normal sections of the site. There are also Board of Guardians records showing the dealing of the Board regarding folks needing relief, either in money or bread, or both.or being offered a place in the Workhouse. Many of the persons listed came from areas other than Derbyshire, Tibshelf Settlement Examinations has manyreferences to folks from Notts. and other counties. Eckington Removals has reference to persons being sent back into Yorkshire in 1630. Many other records added. mike http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi Barbara Sorry, it wasn't your family. My late husband's family didn't acknowledge he'd even existed in their father's family notice. My son jumped up and down about his father's name being omitted and then they had to put in another notice....including their deceased brother's name - but it didn't extend to his children. Families. The dysfunctional family I mentioned wasn't mine...but known to me. There are so many stories that could be related on these issues. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurie O'Connor" <maurie777@ozemail.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Notices - 15 Sept 1980 - BAUER > "I know for myself of a case where a dysfunctional family..." > > You aren't talking about my family, are you? > > My sister arranged my dad's funeral and inserted notices - "dearly beloved > husband of (first wife/our mother)" and no mention at all of his second > wife > of 34 years. > > Barbara

Hi Barbara Sounds like my family - the Funeral Director had 2 separate funeral notices for my father-in-law - the first one was from his 6 children and all their children (no mention of us spouses :: 'as we are not related'!!!) - the second one from his second wife, and her children (to a previous marriage) their spouses and her grandchildren - it read that he had more children than he did. However, the Funeral Director had to appease both families, as his children bore all the funeral costs whilst the second wife claimed all the bereavement money she could. Poor dear only outlived him by 9 months too. It happens more times than people would be aware, with so many families. Second spouse leaving out all details of the first spouse and family (did they know?); one child leaving off names of the siblings as they were not talking for many years. Such a shame. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Maurie O'Connor [mailto:maurie777@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2008 6:34 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Notices - 15 Sept 1980 - BAUER "I know for myself of a case where a dysfunctional family..." You aren't talking about my family, are you? My sister arranged my dad's funeral and inserted notices - "dearly beloved husband of (first wife/our mother)" and no mention at all of his second wife of 34 years. Barbara __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3688 (20081212) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Kay, Thanks so much for your help. It is just a mistake of some kind and was possibly corrected in a subsequent newspaper. I will follow it up at the State Library in the New Year. Thanks again. Elizabeth Gill

Would Brett please contact me again - at the address on www.judywebster.gil.com.au - and quote a valid 'reply-to' address so that I can send you the information you want. >>Reply-To: "Brett" <unspecified@spampede.com> >>Subject: Free Dunwich brochure please > >A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its >recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > unspecified@spampede.com

"I know for myself of a case where a dysfunctional family..." You aren't talking about my family, are you? My sister arranged my dad's funeral and inserted notices - "dearly beloved husband of (first wife/our mother)" and no mention at all of his second wife of 34 years. Barbara

Hello Elizabeth I thought it strange that a male name should be bracketed when I typing out the notice. It definitely says "Mr. and Mrs L.V. Ash (Arthur)." Unfortunately I do not have the next day's page where this mistake may possibly have been corrected. As this is the Death Notice it could not have been placed in the paper without the newspaper being advised by the Funeral directors - if they had this information (confirmed), then perhaps the death notice was placed by a family member. Maybe the funeral arrangements had not been finalised but someone wanted the news to get into the papers. I know for myself of a case where a dysfunctional family didn't talk to each other so when the father died three of them (literally, raced into the newspaper and separately placed notices in the Death Notices (prior to the funeral notice)- all of which read differently, names were missed (deliberately) etc., but it was only after the newspaper had confirmed that there was to be a funeral within the week - could any of the notices appear before the funeral notice. In this particular case, it was nearly a week before the family could agree to funeral arrangements. Thank goodness they didn't cremate him - otherwise there would have been three separate urns! Having worked at the newspaper I know that sometimes family members want to get Death notices in the paper immediately but the rules are that they can only be placed AFTER the funeral notice has appeared otherwise the paper (operator) has to contact the funeral directors to confirm that there has been a death and permission given, that the Death notice appears. The rules are very strict as you can imagine that people can be very vicious/nasty and place notices of a persons death when they are still alive. It has been done in the past. We always had to be very careful in this area - when in doubt, check again - and then make sure that you make notes on the file. Regards, Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Gill" <elizgill@melbpc.org.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Notices - 15 Sept 1980 - BAUER > Dear Kay, > > Many thanks for forwarding details of the Bauer Death Notice which was my > family even though someone else had asked for it. Would you mind checking > the "Mr. and Mrs. L.V. Ash (Arthur)" part of the entry as I think that > should be Ailsa as Frederick Austin Bauer had four daughters. > > Thank you for your help. > > Elizabeth Gill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1835 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 > 4:56 PM > >

Resending - was forwarded on request of another Lister. EDWARDES, Eugine Lorenzo, passed away 14th September, 1980, of 8 Hayman Street, Boondall (formerly of 42 Alexandria Road, East Fremantle). The Relatives and Friends of Effie May Edwardes, Mal and Joan Shannon, Eddie and Jenny Edwardes and Ivor and Glenis Edwardes and Families are invited to attend the Funeral of her dearly loved Husband, their Father, Father-in-law and Grandfather, Eugine Lorenzo Edwardes. The Funeral will leave St. Flannan's Catholic Church, Handford Road, Zillmere on conclusion of Requiem Mass commencing at 1.30 p.m. this Tuesday for Albany Creek Crematorium Chapel, Aspley. K.M. SMITH Regards, Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane OBrien" <jane_edwards56@yahoo.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Fw: Funeral Notices 15 Sept 1980 > Hi Kay. > Would I be able to have the information on the Edwards funeral notice, > please. > Thank you. > Regards, > Jane O'Brien