I agree with Marg.about an online index....................... I was aware of the GSQ index's but I am unable to get there anymore so have not continued my membership ..................so an on line index is much appreciated..........and I am sure there will be folk outside of Brisbane who will appreciate the online version. Keep up the good work Kerry Jan. > > I wasn't aware of either of these ?? By choosing an on > line format Kerry has made this info instantly accessible > to many genes > With his OK I forwarded his original email to subscribers >

> Why are you doing this indexing as it has already be done by the > Genealogical Society of Qld Inc, as a past member you may or may not > remember the large index cards called the Crosse Dunleavy Files which have > already been published by GSQ, and more recently in a more detailed book > form by Lyn Aberdeen. > Seems you have a "thing" about doing things that hae already been done by > others. Yes, I am aware of the Crosse-Dunleavy Index, although I haven't accessed it in quite a number of years. I agree it is a very similar thing in the sense that it is an index of BDM notices in the Moreton Bay Courier and other early Brisbane newspapers. However, as far as I am aware, * mine is on the Web and the Cross-Dunleavy isn't, so I think mine is somewhat more accessible * having a web-based index allows a clickable link into the National Library's digitised record, which I think is rather useful for the genealogist I have a "thing" for creating genealogical resources that are WWW-accessible. I would certainly prefer not to have to "re-invent" the wheel, and I would be delighted to work with GSQ in putting the Crosse-Dunleavy index (and/or other resources) onto the WWW. Kerry

Hi Barbara Yes, it is one thing for the Societies to do these indexing, but you have to know about and get hold of them, which means leaving the comfort of my home, travelling a minimumm of an hour, pay for the privelege of entering the society rooms as a visitor, then spending time reading, hoping to find an entry. When you find an entry, you then have to go somewhere else that has the newspaper and use the microfische readers to find it, only to find it is the wrong family anyway. On top of that travel and time, is also the cost of parking and wear and tear on the car and fuel too. Kerry, with many people thanks, has linked it on line. Therefore, I can check Kerry's index, check the newspaper direct, and I have just saved myself several hours of travelling, not to mention the cost. The Qld State Archives also has their index on line. I can now search it, decide there is something I want to check out, travel the 90kl to the archive, and know I am going to easily find what I know is there. So thanks Kerry, very much appreciated, especially the links. PS - didn't find any of mine either but it was easier to look. Kerry, did you correct the entries as you went? I find that very exciting to read and correct and leave my record for my ancestors... Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Robinson [mailto:bro51909@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 5 July 2009 3:36 PM To: kraymond@iprimus.com.au; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Index to the Moreton Bay Courier BDMs Kerry Why are you doing this indexing as it has already be done by the Genealogical Society of Qld Inc, as a past member you may or may not remember the large index cards called the Crosse Dunleavy Files which have already been published by GSQ, and more recently in a more detailed book form by Lyn Aberdeen. Seems you have a "thing" about doing things that hae already been done by others. Barbara GSQ BNE __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4217 (20090704) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Robinson" <bro51909@bigpond.net.au> To: <kraymond@iprimus.com.au>; <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Index to the Moreton Bay Courier BDMs Hi Barbara > > Why are you doing this indexing as it has already be done > by the > Genealogical Society of Qld Inc, as a past member you may > or may not > remember the large index cards called the Crosse Dunleavy > Files which have > already been published by GSQ, and more recently in a more > detailed book > form by Lyn Aberdeen. > I wasn't aware of either of these ?? By choosing an on line format Kerry has made this info instantly accessible to many genes With his OK I forwarded his original email to subscribers of some other Rootsweb lists I admin and will see its given some coverage at my local FHS library > Barbara > GSQ BNE And a reminder if I may " Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it." I removed this tagline a few weeks ago from messages posted to the Qld list It had a great effect of ensuring mailing list mail was more readable by all <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<snipped>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bye MargM QLD List Admin

Kerry Why are you doing this indexing as it has already be done by the Genealogical Society of Qld Inc, as a past member you may or may not remember the large index cards called the Crosse Dunleavy Files which have already been published by GSQ, and more recently in a more detailed book form by Lyn Aberdeen. Seems you have a "thing" about doing things that hae already been done by others. Barbara GSQ BNE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:29 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Index to the Moreton Bay Courier BDMs > Hi folks! > > > > Now that the National Library has put the early Brisbane newspapers > online, > I decided to have a go at creating an index of the BDMs as appeared in the > Moreton Bay Courier, Brisbane's first newspaper, which was published from > 1846 to 1861 (after which it was sold and published under the name The > Courier, and then later The Brisbane Courier, and then later the > Courier-Mail). > > > > I have indexed any birth, death, marriages or funeral notices I could > find. > I also added a few obituaries and articles about how people died (but on > the > basis of "I happened to spot it" rather than anything more systematic). > Note > that in those times, a lot of the notices just talk about Mr Smith and > Miss > Brown without given names, so look any entry (click to see the scanned > newspaper article at the National Library) with the surname of interest - > don't ignore something because the names you seen in the "other names > mentioned" don't include the given names you are hoping to see. > > > > It is sorted by "principal" surname, meaning the surname of the person who > was born, married or died. In the case of marriages, they are indexed > twice, > once under the bride's surname and once under the groom's. Just scroll > down > to find the surname you are interested in. If you are interested in given > names or other surnames that may have appeared in the notice (note I did > not > include the name of the clergyman in the marriage notices), use the "Find > on > Page" in your WWW browser - usually "Ctrl-F" in most browsers or > drops-down > off your menu somewhere. > > > > This is a first go at doing an index into the National Library's newspaper > database, so I'd be interested in your feedback. Of course there may well > be > errors or omissions etc; I am only human. Please let me know. > > > > Anyhow, here's the URL: > > > > http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/MoretonBayCourier-Sorte > d-AHG.htm > > > > Just a comment. The contents of the page belong to me (I am the copyright > holder). What this means that you are welcome to use the page but not to > make copies of it elsewhere. > > > > Kerry > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: 07/04/09 17:55:00

I am sure you are right Kerry...I have records of events for my families during the span of your indexing...but these events weren't published. I know they lived "on the smell of an oily rag" as my ancestors used to say.. They didn't have the money to pay to publish BDMs, and just went about their business. >From what I have found, it's normally only the wealthy or the scoundrels, or victims of crime who find themselves published. Cheers Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Index to the Moreton Bay Courier BDMs > >> Now! My big question is, How on earth do you find the time to do >> this... > > That's the great thing about indexing online newspapers. I just have a > browser window open on the newspaper and Excel open in another window. > Whenever I have the time, I just sit down and do a bit more. All in the > comfort of my own home; no running out to libraries and archives on cold > winter weekends. > >> I am sure many people will be jumping on the site to find >> ancestors...just > >> as I did. (unsuccessfully :-((). > > Indeed, I didn't find any of my own family, much to my disappointment. > > Just out of curiosity, I did some coarse statistics, comparing the number > of > entries I have in my index for each year against the number of entries for > the same year in the Pioneer CD. It fluctuates wildly from 5% to 26% prior > to the commencement of civil registration and then settles down to about > 9-10% after civil registration. > > So realistically you have about a 1 in 10 chance of finding a notice in my > index for an event that appears in the BDM. Actually the odds are worse as > the notices in the newspaper include some events that occurred outside > Queensland (although one assumes that the family involved had some > connection to Qld or they wouldn't have paid for the notice). I suspect it > is only the wealthier families that are publishing BDM notices. > > Kerry > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

> Now! My big question is, How on earth do you find the time to do this... That's the great thing about indexing online newspapers. I just have a browser window open on the newspaper and Excel open in another window. Whenever I have the time, I just sit down and do a bit more. All in the comfort of my own home; no running out to libraries and archives on cold winter weekends. > I am sure many people will be jumping on the site to find ancestors...just > as I did. (unsuccessfully :-((). Indeed, I didn't find any of my own family, much to my disappointment. Just out of curiosity, I did some coarse statistics, comparing the number of entries I have in my index for each year against the number of entries for the same year in the Pioneer CD. It fluctuates wildly from 5% to 26% prior to the commencement of civil registration and then settles down to about 9-10% after civil registration. So realistically you have about a 1 in 10 chance of finding a notice in my index for an event that appears in the BDM. Actually the odds are worse as the notices in the newspaper include some events that occurred outside Queensland (although one assumes that the family involved had some connection to Qld or they wouldn't have paid for the notice). I suspect it is only the wealthier families that are publishing BDM notices. Kerry

Well done Kerry Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:29 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Index to the Moreton Bay Courier BDMs > Hi folks! > > > > Now that the National Library has put the early Brisbane newspapers > online, > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: 07/04/09 17:55:00

That is going to be a very useful tool for lots of people Kerry...especially since you have included the actual link to the article... Now! My big question is, How on earth do you find the time to do this... I am sure many people will be jumping on the site to find ancestors...just as I did. (unsuccessfully :-((). Cheers Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Index to the Moreton Bay Courier BDMs > > Here's a shorter version of the URL as I see it is line-breaking here on > the > list: > > http://tinyurl.com/nlzpsb > > Kerry > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Here's a shorter version of the URL as I see it is line-breaking here on the list: http://tinyurl.com/nlzpsb Kerry

Sometimes I get absolutely brilliant ideas! Like Googling!! I think the extreme cold down my way has frozen my brain cells. Here's the website address for the woman I was thinking of - http://www.judywebster.gil.com.au/ She lists a number of indices you can look up. Cheers Barbara

Hi folks! Now that the National Library has put the early Brisbane newspapers online, I decided to have a go at creating an index of the BDMs as appeared in the Moreton Bay Courier, Brisbane's first newspaper, which was published from 1846 to 1861 (after which it was sold and published under the name The Courier, and then later The Brisbane Courier, and then later the Courier-Mail). I have indexed any birth, death, marriages or funeral notices I could find. I also added a few obituaries and articles about how people died (but on the basis of "I happened to spot it" rather than anything more systematic). Note that in those times, a lot of the notices just talk about Mr Smith and Miss Brown without given names, so look any entry (click to see the scanned newspaper article at the National Library) with the surname of interest - don't ignore something because the names you seen in the "other names mentioned" don't include the given names you are hoping to see. It is sorted by "principal" surname, meaning the surname of the person who was born, married or died. In the case of marriages, they are indexed twice, once under the bride's surname and once under the groom's. Just scroll down to find the surname you are interested in. If you are interested in given names or other surnames that may have appeared in the notice (note I did not include the name of the clergyman in the marriage notices), use the "Find on Page" in your WWW browser - usually "Ctrl-F" in most browsers or drops-down off your menu somewhere. This is a first go at doing an index into the National Library's newspaper database, so I'd be interested in your feedback. Of course there may well be errors or omissions etc; I am only human. Please let me know. Anyhow, here's the URL: http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/MoretonBayCourier-Sorte d-AHG.htm Just a comment. The contents of the page belong to me (I am the copyright holder). What this means that you are welcome to use the page but not to make copies of it elsewhere. Kerry

Kerry, John, died 1933, son of Daniel DOHERTY & Margaret RYAN. Thomas Christopher, died 1929, son of Thomas DOHERTY & Ellen GARLAND. Thomas, died 1936, son of Michael DOHERTY & Mary KELLY. Ellen, died 1941, daughter of - GARLAND & - . Sarah Jane, died 1931, daughter of James GILLIVER & Catherine BRUCE. Robert Crawford, died 1894, son of James DOHERTY & Mary CRAWFORD. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (but a dinky di QLD girl). julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Kerry, on the BDM on line there is a Robert Crwford DOHERTY, 1894, parents James DOHERTY and Mary CRAWFORD. Deaths online till 1929. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KERRY HALL" <kerry.hall8@bigpond.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] DOHERTY lookup please > Hi List. > Could I request the parents names of the following please > DOHERTY John d: 12 Sep 1933 > DOHERTY Thomas Christopher d: 30 Dec 1929 > DOHERTY Thomas d: 7 aug 1936 > DOHERTY Ellen d: 19 Jan 1941 > DOHERTY Sarah Jane d: 28 Aug 1931 > DOHERTY Robert d: 21 Mar 1894 > regards > Kerry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.3/2217 - Release Date: 07/03/09 18:11:00

Hi List. Could I request the parents names of the following please DOHERTY John d: 12 Sep 1933 DOHERTY Thomas Christopher d: 30 Dec 1929 DOHERTY Thomas d: 7 aug 1936 DOHERTY Ellen d: 19 Jan 1941 DOHERTY Sarah Jane d: 28 Aug 1931 DOHERTY Robert d: 21 Mar 1894 regards Kerry

They have a Website may be worth contacting them.. google "Southport School" Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary O'Brien" <maryob@activ8.net.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Southport School > > > The Southport School > > I would think that a history has been written on the school. If it has, > does any one know if there is a list of pupils covering the years 1915 to > 1920? > > Regards, > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.3/2217 - Release Date: 07/03/09 18:11:00

Thank you for the suggestion Barbara. Regards, Mary -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maurie O'Connor Sent: Saturday, 4 July 2009 1:15 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Kings School, Parramatta That info would probably be in year books in their library. Perhaps you could ring them and ask a favour - some poor little sod might prefer to hang out in the library rather than on the sports oval. Cheers Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Southport School I would think that a history has been written on the school. If it has, does any one know if there is a list of pupils covering the years 1915 to 1920? Regards, Mary

That info would probably be in year books in their library. Perhaps you could ring them and ask a favour - some poor little sod might prefer to hang out in the library rather than on the sports oval. Cheers Barbara

Would any one know if there is a list of pupils and head masters for Kings School, Parramatta around 1909 / 1910. There is a book, The King's School, 1831-1981. Macarthur Press Pty Ltd, Sydney, if any one has a copy. My problem is that I need this information urgently so I don't have time to order the book for a library. Regards, Mary Central Queensland.