Were there any more QLD BDM CD's produced after the Pioneer Index 1829-1889, Federation Index 1890-1914? If so can someone let me know the names and dates. Don __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/

Hi Jill , Thanks for a great site. June ----- Original Message ----- From: "jmglover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: "AUS-QLD list" <AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:58 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] : Link to Photos of AUS. site > > > > > Hi everyone, > I've come across this site, it's new to me, perhaps someone else > will > find it interesting. It's photos of Australia organized by location and > time. > http://maps.bonzle.com/c/a > When you open up this link, click "pictures in time", and up will > come > a > Cheers, > Jill > > > > > > All mail must be typed in plain text, any sent in HTML will bounce and be > a wasted effort > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.92/2364 - Release Date: 09/11/09 17:51:00

Hi Dennis, The following notice was published in the Townsville Bulletin Newspaper June 10, 1914. DEATH. NICOLLS. - At Sydney, after a long illness, FRANK NICOLLS, late of Townsville, and dearly beloved husband of Ellen Nicolls, leaving a family of five to mourn their loss. Lyn An ancestor Francis Nicholson died in 1914 probably in NSW and probably in > Sydney. I have looked at the NSW Indexes with no luck. There is an > inscription on the family grave in Townsville stating that he died in 1914, > but again there it nothing on the Qld Indexes. After 1889 the family name > changed to Nicholls/Nichols. >

Lorrae   Use the online service of'Ask a Librarian'. It's a State Library. Take advantage of what you are paying for with your taxes.   Cheers   Brian --- On Thu, 10/9/09, Lorrae <lorrae@uqconnect.net> wrote: From: Lorrae <lorrae@uqconnect.net> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] BDM Indexes at Qld State Library To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Received: Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 6:36 PM Thanks Barbara Strangely the opening hours of the other centres near me do not suit - I usually take the full day off work and go to South Brisbane.  Parking is now $14 for the day, and my safest and easiest method of transport.  It is a whole days outing for me so I may as well take advantage. Also, as I am coming from 'country' / rural, I can book a reader ahead of time to ensure I can get one. It was the interstate indexes I am mostly interested in and my initial query was more with I was wondering if "Ask a Librarian" would be able to do a lookup, but I think that may be asking too much of an ask, so I will travel down one day and search. Thanks for the reply, Barbara, and I agree that not enough foresight went into that area - very crowded and compact when you have to walk through so much open space before you get to the little corner. Lorrae Glenore Grove  Qld  4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Robinson [mailto:bro51909@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2009 2:59 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] BDM Indexes at Qld State Library Lorrae These indexes are not new, this is the type of index all societies have, you will find them at the Toowoomba & Drayton Society, Ipswich Society, Genealogical Society. Qld Family History Society, State Library and most of the major societies in each State, even the LDS Centres have them. If you are going to State Library you will need to get there early as the mornings are usually busy, the "Micrographics sections" as this section is called is on the Floor 3 State Library at the very back of the floor, you will need to walk past all the computers on the right and the rows of music information, along past the photocopy room on your right and turn the corner and you will find the area where the computer/film fiche readers are and the rows of films of newspapers and some microfiche readers. Unfortunately the "powers that be" have not allowed much spare in the building and on this floor for such a busy section. Barbara BNE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrae" <lorrae@uqconnect.net> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] BDM Indexes at Qld State Library > Hi List > > Does anyone know the protocal for "ask A Librarian' for these indexes? > > I will have to make time for the trip down to Brisbane for the day to > check some of these out, amazing that they have Vic and WA too. > > > > > Major BDM Indexes available at State Library of Queensland > > Place Births  Deaths  Marriages Integrated Indexes Civil Registration > QLD 1829-1919  1829-1964  1839-1939  1829-1914  Mar 1856 > NSW 1788-1918  1788-1978  1788-1958  1788-1945  (births to 1918) Mar 1856 > Vic 1837-1920  1837-1985  1837-1942  1836-1920  July 1853 > > Tas 1803-1905  1803-1919  1803-1919  1803-1899  December 1838 > SA 1842-1928  1842-1970  1842-1937  None July 1842 > WA *1829-1905  1829-1980  1829-1965  1841-1905  Sept 1841 > NT 1870-1918  1870-1913 1870- 1913 None August 1870 > ACT   -    1930-1949     -      -      - > NZ 1840-1990  1848-1990  1840-1990  None 1848 approx > England & Wales 1837-2001 1837-2001  1837-2001  None July 1837 > > * For 1829-1840 consult "Access to Ancestors" MFPAM 929.3941 1990. Ask at > desk > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4412 (20090909) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com All mail must be typed in plain text, any sent in HTML will bounce and be a wasted effort ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/

Hi everyone, I've come across this site, it's new to me, perhaps someone else will find it interesting. It's photos of Australia organized by location and time. http://maps.bonzle.com/c/a When you open up this link, click "pictures in time", and up will come a page with dates from 1791 to 2009. Just click a year that might interest you, say 1864, and photos from 8 locations come up, and you can click on each photo, and that will possibly bring up over 100 photos of that place, and even people and school photos for some places. You never know, you might find a class photo of your ancestors from around 1900?? It's well worth a look or three. Cheers, Jill

Thanks Judy I just ran out of time to do further delving to all the meanings. I was there the whole day, and I had a list of things to do, which I successfully completed, and then I started on the Electoral Rolls - first time using them - and I was very excited with what I found, but suddenly it was time to close. So now, I will organise another day and go with another list - thanks The staff at the Archives are very helpful - and helped with my last list - but after 7 hours, I was brain dead and ready for the long trip home. Thanks again Judy Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: judyweb@gil.com.au [mailto:judyweb@gil.com.au] Sent: Friday, 11 September 2009 8:26 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Cc: Lorrae Subject: SMITH of Cunnamulla - Lookup of Australian Electoral Roll > in 1946, there is a comment 'OBJECTION' This is a direct quote from the book "Tips for Queensland Research" (2008 ed.) described on www.judywebster.gil.com.au/publicat.html: "From about the 1920s to 1991, most State rolls are annotated to show the electorate to which someone moved, the reason for their removal from the roll (eg, death), or a change of name (eg, by marriage or deed poll). Sometimes the rolls show that a person was on war service or had been admitted to a mental institution. If a person left the district and the authorities did not know their subsequent whereabouts, the annotation 'Obj' or 'Objection' will usually appear." In addition to the Archives 'Brief Guide', there is an extra brochure in the rack beside the cabinet containing the electoral rolls (microfilms). > James Thomas has a comment "E BRISBANE" against his name That will be the name of the electorate to which he moved. You will need to check the names of electorates in existence that year (use the bundle of mini-maps on the bench beside the microfilm cabinet) to work out whether it means 'East Brisbane' or 'Electoral district of Brisbane'. Then simply look at the roll for that electorate for the following year (or in some cases, in the bi-monthly supplements on the same film as the annual roll where the annotation appears). > Is it possible that this couple divorced and then remarried? How do I check that? Read the relevant Brief Guide and Search Procedure (freely available on the Archives Web site, and in their search room). > if they lived in the same house, or just the same street Try using Council rate and valuation records. See the article on www.judywebster.gil.com.au/article.html. Judy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Judy Webster, PO Box 5043, Algester, QLD 4115, Australia. Accredited researcher (Qld State Archives sources). Indexes & advice: www.judywebster.com.au/index.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4416 (20090911) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Mary, have a look at http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/immigration.asp and see if anything there fits your timeframe - there are loads of Mahoneys and Andrewses, hope some of them are yours - Cheers, Deb -----Original Message----- Hello list, I would appreciated a look up for the date of arrival in Australia of James MAHONEY and his wife Annie ANDREWS.I think they came from Ireland Also the ships name if possible. Many thanks for your help. Kiind regards, Mary

Mary, State Archives of Queensland are online with Assisted Immigration link - click on it, don't forget to try the other states as well - google assisted or unassisted immigration, Victoria, www.records.nsw.gov.au arrivals through www.ancestry.com.au as well. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Mizzi" <mmizzi@dodo.com.au> To: "AUS-QLD" <AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Look Up please. > Hello list, > > I would appreciated a look up for the date of arrival in Australia of > James > MAHONEY and his wife Annie ANDREWS.I think they came from Ireland Also the > ships name if possible. > > Many thanks for your help. > > Kiind regards, > > Mary > > All mail must be typed in plain text, any sent in HTML will bounce and be > a wasted effort > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.90/2361 - Release Date: 09/10/09 18:12:00

Hello list, I would appreciated a look up for the date of arrival in Australia of James MAHONEY and his wife Annie ANDREWS.I think they came from Ireland Also the ships name if possible. Many thanks for your help. Kiind regards, Mary

Hi Dennis There are several NICHOLLS buried in Townsville - perhaps more that I am unaware of: 1885/C4898 Nicholson Catherine Alice Francis Nicholson Ellen Connell 1891/C3949 Nicholson George Patrick Francis Nicholson Ellen Connell 1920/C1485 Nicholson Stephen Francis Francis Nicholson Ellen O'Connell 1928/C1056 Nicholls Frederick Francis Nicholls Ellen O'Connell Similarly, there are many births for this family too: 1890/C11955 Nicholson Louisa Mary Bridget Francis Ellen Connell 1886/C9713 Nicholson Anne Francis Ellen Connell 1891/C11595 Nicholson George Patrick Francis Ellen O'Connell 1885/C8918 Nicholson Frederick Francis Ellen Connell 1888/C10840 Nicholson Stephen Francis Francis Ellen Connell 1884/C7939 Nicholson Catherine Alice Francis Ellen Connell If this is your family, the parents married in 1883: 1883/C1603 Nicholson Francis Connell Ellen It is even possible that the mother died in 1928: 1923/C3578 Nicholls Ellen Maurice Connell Bridget Welsh Perhaps this is the death of Francis - headstones have been known to be wrong!! 1899/C3148 Nicholson Francis John Nicholson Kate Tuxford Without further details of the family, like his parents and his age, it is not possible to further guess for you. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Schinkel [mailto:dennis_schinkle@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 11:25 AM To: AUS-QLD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] Nicholson/Nichols/Nicholls I think that I have previously asked this question with no luck so I will give it another go now. An ancestor Francis Nicholson died in 1914 probably in NSW and probably in Sydney. I have looked at the NSW Indexes with no luck. There is an inscription on the family grave in Townsville stating that he died in 1914, but again there it nothing on the Qld Indexes. After 1889 the family name changed to Nicholls/Nichols. Can anyone suggest a course of action? I know that there are many very clever people out there who may be able to help. Dennis Schinkel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Thanks Helen Very much appreciated - she may also have known of Gertrude Smith in Francis St - if I am real lucky. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Helen A Cooper [mailto:hcooper@bne.catholic.edu.au] Sent: Friday, 11 September 2009 7:27 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] SMITH of Cunnamulla - Lookup of Australian Electoral Roll I believe I may be able to head you in the direction of someone who might be able to help. My mother was born in Cunnamulla and has the Smith name in her family and she was a Scotney before marrying. I will forward this email to her. Cheers Helen ________ __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Dennis, I looked up your archived postings to see if you had previously given more information on Francis, but couldn't find one. Names of parents and year of birth would be extremely helpful. And any other information that is available, for example, why you think he died in NSW. Also his mother's maiden name, which he may have used. You might also consider that (a) stonemasons have been known to make mistakes, and (b) the family may have believed incorrectly that he died in 1914. Or he may have done something so unacceptable (marry out of religion, committed a crime, left his family - all dependent on family values/beliefs, of course) that the wider family were told that he had died and that a unknowing family member, at a later stage, thoughtfully had the inscription added. I have, of course, taken Francis to be male, as you have. Do you have birth registration for him? I mention this because the same spelling was often used for a girl. Cheers Barbara

I believe I may be able to head you in the direction of someone who might be able to help. My mother was born in Cunnamulla and has the Smith name in her family and she was a Scotney before marrying. I will forward this email to her. Cheers Helen ________________________________ From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Lorrae Sent: Thu 10/09/2009 10:30 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Cc: 'Deyone Saunders' Subject: [AUS-QLD] SMITH of Cunnamulla - Lookup of Australian Electoral Roll Hi Folks I am looking at the SMITH family of Cunnamulla - this family in particular - 1 Richard SMITH . +Mary Bessie SMITH ....... 2 Richard SMITH Born: 5 August 1877 Died: 18 April 1904 Qld, Aust Burial: Cunnamulla, Qld, Aust ........... +Ethel Jane RUSH Married: 3 January 1903 Qld, Aust ....... 2 John Edward SMITH Born: 31 March 1879 ....... 2 Edith Margaret SMITH Born: 7 May 1881 Stoney Point, Qld, Aust ........... +Henry SCOTNEY known as: Harry Married: 27 September 1904 Cunnamulla, Qld, Aust ....... 2 Roseann Elizabeth SMITH known as: Rose Born: 7 August 1883 Qld, Aust ........... +Richard CULLESTON Married: 27 November 1927 Qld, Aust ....... 2 James Edward SMITH Born: 10 October 1885 Cunnamulla, Qld, Aust ........... +Gertrude Agnes SAUNDERS Born: 3 November 1879 Esk, Qld, Aust married: 31 December 1916 Cunnamulla. ....... 2 Sidney Cid SMITH Born: 10 December 1887 Qld, Aust ....... 2 Kenneth Joseph SMITH Born: 2 May 1890 ....... 2 Charles SMITH Born: 9 August 1892 ....... 2 Percy SMITH Born: 12 July 1894 Today I visited the Qld State Archives at Runcorn (about 160 klm round trip) and from the State Electoral Rolls, I was able to locate the following family members - My great-grandmother's half sister - Gertrude Agnes SAUNDERS married James Edward SMITH - in 1916 in Cunnamulla - his family listed above. With the help of this list and many hours at the archives, I think I am getting a handle on this family. I was trying to locate the death of her husband, and I know where he was living in 1936, so that is why I started in 1940. My confusion is that Gertrude is listed with James Thomas SMITH since 19 July 1923 whilst her husband, James Edward SMITH is listed with Bertha Maryann SMITH since 20 April 1932. I noted that in 1946, there is a comment 'OBJECTION' against both James Edward and Bertha Maryann and then they do not appear in the 1947 Electoral Roll for Cunnamulla. In 1966, James Thomas has a comment "E BRISBANE" against his name, and he does not appear on the 1967 Roll. I think this means he moved to East Brisbane - too hard to work out the area. What does "OBJECTION" mean? Is it possible that this couple divorced and then remarried? How do I check that? As there were no street numbers in that era, I do not know if they lived in the same house, or just the same street. Some members were living in Garden Street, then later in Francis Street, and the names are family names. I ran out of time to check further, does anyone have easy access to the Australian Electoral Rolls to check further details for me please? Is there any other place / resource that would help me, too please? Qld State Electoral Rolls - Cunnamulla - : 1940 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - James Edward - labourer - 20 Apr 1932 - Bertha Maryann - domestic duties - 20 Apr 1932 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 1945 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - James Edward - labourer - 20 Apr 1932 - Bertha Maryann - domestic duties - 20 Apr 1932 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Charles - Wyandra - 25 Jan 1940 1946 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - James Edward - labourer - 20 Apr 1932 - Objection - Bertha Maryann - domestic duties - 20 Apr 1932 - Objection - Charles - Wyandra - 25 Jan 1940 - Objection - E Re reg - Winifred Violet - Commercial Hotel - domestic duties - 09 Apr 1926 1947 - Charles, Eventide Home, Sandgate, none, 02 Dec 1946 - DEAD - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Richard James Patrick - Garden St - Labourer - 11 Oct 1946 1948 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Richard James Patrick - Garden St - Labourer - 11 Oct 1946 1949 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Richard James Patrick - Garden St - Labourer - 11 Oct 1946 - MAREE - Yvonne Edith Mary - Garden St - shop assistant - 07 Jun 1948 1950 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Yvonne Edith Mary - Garden St - shop assistant - 07 Jun 1948 1951 - Gertrude - Francis St - domestic duties - 16 Mar 1950 - DEAD - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - Sydney - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Percy - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Yvonne Edith Mary - Garden St - shop assistant - 07 Jun 1948 - NORMAN 1952 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - Sydney - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Percy - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 1955 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - station hand - 31 Aug 1954 - BALOONE S - Sydney Cid - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Percy - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 1960 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - John Arthur Peter - Francis St - station employee - 09 Nov 1955 - Percy - Francis St - Fireman - 06 Oct 1955 - Richard James Patrick - Coona - station employee - 18 Mar 1957 1966 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - East Brisbane - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - shed employee - 04 Jan 1960 - Winifred Violet - Francis St - housewife - 06 Oct 1955 - Edna Amelia Elizabeth - Francis St, housewife - 11 Dec 1959 1967 - Edna Amelia Elizabeth - Francis St, housewife - 11 Dec 1959 - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - shed employee - 04 Jan 1960 - Winifred Violet - Francis St - housewife - 06 Oct 1955 1970 - Edna Amelia Elizabeth - Francis St, housewife - 11 Dec 1959 - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - shed employee - 04 Jan 1960 - Winifred Violet - Francis St - housewife - 06 Oct 1955 Thanks and sorry for the long email - but I needed to show the differences that I located. 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Death 1-12-1914 not on the Pioneer INdex nor is birth of Frederick son of Francis.. Nothing even close for the 1-12-1914 on the Pioneer Index.. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Townsville Headstones, Queensland, Australia-NICHOLLS > Is this the right Francis NICHOLLS burial you want from Townsville... > Jenelle. > http://www.myrasplace.net/hstones/htowns13.htm#N > All mail must be typed in plain text, any sent in HTML will bounce and be > a wasted effort > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.88/2357 - Release Date: 09/09/09 17:50:00

Is this the right Francis NICHOLLS burial you want from Townsville... Jenelle. http://www.myrasplace.net/hstones/htowns13.htm#N

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Schinkel" <dennis_schinkle@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-QLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Nicholson/Nichols/Nicholls Hi Dennis >I think that I have previously asked this question with no >luck so I will give it another go now. An ancestor Francis >Nicholson died in 1914 probably in NSW and probably in >Sydney. I have looked at the NSW Indexes with no luck. >There is an inscription on the family grave in Townsville >stating that he died in 1914, but again there it nothing on >the Qld Indexes. After 1889 the family name changed to >Nicholls/Nichols You are 'muddying the water' with this ref to surname change info back in 1889 What family surname is on the grave ???????? . What gives you the suspicion he maybe have been in NSW in 1914 ??? You are abit short on clues and give none as to his possible age in 1914 Could he have been an early WW1 casualty ? Bye MargM QLD List Admin

Hi Folks I am looking at the SMITH family of Cunnamulla - this family in particular - 1 Richard SMITH . +Mary Bessie SMITH ....... 2 Richard SMITH Born: 5 August 1877 Died: 18 April 1904 Qld, Aust Burial: Cunnamulla, Qld, Aust ........... +Ethel Jane RUSH Married: 3 January 1903 Qld, Aust ....... 2 John Edward SMITH Born: 31 March 1879 ....... 2 Edith Margaret SMITH Born: 7 May 1881 Stoney Point, Qld, Aust ........... +Henry SCOTNEY known as: Harry Married: 27 September 1904 Cunnamulla, Qld, Aust ....... 2 Roseann Elizabeth SMITH known as: Rose Born: 7 August 1883 Qld, Aust ........... +Richard CULLESTON Married: 27 November 1927 Qld, Aust ....... 2 James Edward SMITH Born: 10 October 1885 Cunnamulla, Qld, Aust ........... +Gertrude Agnes SAUNDERS Born: 3 November 1879 Esk, Qld, Aust married: 31 December 1916 Cunnamulla. ....... 2 Sidney Cid SMITH Born: 10 December 1887 Qld, Aust ....... 2 Kenneth Joseph SMITH Born: 2 May 1890 ....... 2 Charles SMITH Born: 9 August 1892 ....... 2 Percy SMITH Born: 12 July 1894 Today I visited the Qld State Archives at Runcorn (about 160 klm round trip) and from the State Electoral Rolls, I was able to locate the following family members - My great-grandmother's half sister - Gertrude Agnes SAUNDERS married James Edward SMITH - in 1916 in Cunnamulla - his family listed above. With the help of this list and many hours at the archives, I think I am getting a handle on this family. I was trying to locate the death of her husband, and I know where he was living in 1936, so that is why I started in 1940. My confusion is that Gertrude is listed with James Thomas SMITH since 19 July 1923 whilst her husband, James Edward SMITH is listed with Bertha Maryann SMITH since 20 April 1932. I noted that in 1946, there is a comment 'OBJECTION' against both James Edward and Bertha Maryann and then they do not appear in the 1947 Electoral Roll for Cunnamulla. In 1966, James Thomas has a comment "E BRISBANE" against his name, and he does not appear on the 1967 Roll. I think this means he moved to East Brisbane - too hard to work out the area. What does "OBJECTION" mean? Is it possible that this couple divorced and then remarried? How do I check that? As there were no street numbers in that era, I do not know if they lived in the same house, or just the same street. Some members were living in Garden Street, then later in Francis Street, and the names are family names. I ran out of time to check further, does anyone have easy access to the Australian Electoral Rolls to check further details for me please? Is there any other place / resource that would help me, too please? Qld State Electoral Rolls - Cunnamulla - : 1940 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - James Edward - labourer - 20 Apr 1932 - Bertha Maryann - domestic duties - 20 Apr 1932 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 1945 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - James Edward - labourer - 20 Apr 1932 - Bertha Maryann - domestic duties - 20 Apr 1932 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Charles - Wyandra - 25 Jan 1940 1946 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - James Edward - labourer - 20 Apr 1932 - Objection - Bertha Maryann - domestic duties - 20 Apr 1932 - Objection - Charles - Wyandra - 25 Jan 1940 - Objection - E Re reg - Winifred Violet - Commercial Hotel - domestic duties - 09 Apr 1926 1947 - Charles, Eventide Home, Sandgate, none, 02 Dec 1946 - DEAD - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Richard James Patrick - Garden St - Labourer - 11 Oct 1946 1948 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Richard James Patrick - Garden St - Labourer - 11 Oct 1946 1949 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Richard James Patrick - Garden St - Labourer - 11 Oct 1946 - MAREE - Yvonne Edith Mary - Garden St - shop assistant - 07 Jun 1948 1950 - Gertrude - domestic duties - 19 Jul 1923 - James Thomas - labourer - 19 Jul 1923 - Sydney - Labourer - 27 Aug 1909 - Percy - Labourer - 19 Jul 1915 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Yvonne Edith Mary - Garden St - shop assistant - 07 Jun 1948 1951 - Gertrude - Francis St - domestic duties - 16 Mar 1950 - DEAD - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - Sydney - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Percy - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 - Yvonne Edith Mary - Garden St - shop assistant - 07 Jun 1948 - NORMAN 1952 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - Sydney - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Percy - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 1955 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - station hand - 31 Aug 1954 - BALOONE S - Sydney Cid - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Percy - Garden St - Labourer - 21 Mar 1950 - Winifred Violet - Garden St - housewife - 05 Jul 1946 1960 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - John Arthur Peter - Francis St - station employee - 09 Nov 1955 - Percy - Francis St - Fireman - 06 Oct 1955 - Richard James Patrick - Coona - station employee - 18 Mar 1957 1966 - James Thomas - Francis St - labourer - 16 Mar 1950 - East Brisbane - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - shed employee - 04 Jan 1960 - Winifred Violet - Francis St - housewife - 06 Oct 1955 - Edna Amelia Elizabeth - Francis St, housewife - 11 Dec 1959 1967 - Edna Amelia Elizabeth - Francis St, housewife - 11 Dec 1959 - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - shed employee - 04 Jan 1960 - Winifred Violet - Francis St - housewife - 06 Oct 1955 1970 - Edna Amelia Elizabeth - Francis St, housewife - 11 Dec 1959 - Richard James Patrick - Francis St - shed employee - 04 Jan 1960 - Winifred Violet - Francis St - housewife - 06 Oct 1955 Thanks and sorry for the long email - but I needed to show the differences that I located. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Dennis, Perhaps you could give the list is parents names or anything else that might give us a clue . Cheers, Jill

Thanks Barbara Strangely the opening hours of the other centres near me do not suit - I usually take the full day off work and go to South Brisbane. Parking is now $14 for the day, and my safest and easiest method of transport. It is a whole days outing for me so I may as well take advantage. Also, as I am coming from 'country' / rural, I can book a reader ahead of time to ensure I can get one. It was the interstate indexes I am mostly interested in and my initial query was more with I was wondering if "Ask a Librarian" would be able to do a lookup, but I think that may be asking too much of an ask, so I will travel down one day and search. Thanks for the reply, Barbara, and I agree that not enough foresight went into that area - very crowded and compact when you have to walk through so much open space before you get to the little corner. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Robinson [mailto:bro51909@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2009 2:59 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] BDM Indexes at Qld State Library Lorrae These indexes are not new, this is the type of index all societies have, you will find them at the Toowoomba & Drayton Society, Ipswich Society, Genealogical Society. Qld Family History Society, State Library and most of the major societies in each State, even the LDS Centres have them. If you are going to State Library you will need to get there early as the mornings are usually busy, the "Micrographics sections" as this section is called is on the Floor 3 State Library at the very back of the floor, you will need to walk past all the computers on the right and the rows of music information, along past the photocopy room on your right and turn the corner and you will find the area where the computer/film fiche readers are and the rows of films of newspapers and some microfiche readers. Unfortunately the "powers that be" have not allowed much spare in the building and on this floor for such a busy section. Barbara BNE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrae" <lorrae@uqconnect.net> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] BDM Indexes at Qld State Library > Hi List > > Does anyone know the protocal for "ask A Librarian' for these indexes? > > I will have to make time for the trip down to Brisbane for the day to > check some of these out, amazing that they have Vic and WA too. > > > > > Major BDM Indexes available at State Library of Queensland > > Place Births Deaths Marriages Integrated Indexes Civil Registration > QLD 1829-1919 1829-1964 1839-1939 1829-1914 Mar 1856 > NSW 1788-1918 1788-1978 1788-1958 1788-1945 (births to 1918) Mar 1856 > Vic 1837-1920 1837-1985 1837-1942 1836-1920 July 1853 > > Tas 1803-1905 1803-1919 1803-1919 1803-1899 December 1838 > SA 1842-1928 1842-1970 1842-1937 None July 1842 > WA *1829-1905 1829-1980 1829-1965 1841-1905 Sept 1841 > NT 1870-1918 1870-1913 1870- 1913 None August 1870 > ACT - 1930-1949 - - - > NZ 1840-1990 1848-1990 1840-1990 None 1848 approx > England & Wales 1837-2001 1837-2001 1837-2001 None July 1837 > > * For 1829-1840 consult "Access to Ancestors" MFPAM 929.3941 1990. Ask at > desk > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4412 (20090909) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Thanks Janelle, I will looked into those tips. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Nicholson/Nichols/Nicholls > Dennis, > do you have any certificates of any other family members that may mention > him, go through the newspapers online through > http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home > maybe there are funeral notices for family members and also check the > electoral rolls for him. Check the www.familysearch.org or > www.rootsweb.com > click world global connect page. > Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Schinkel" <dennis_schinkle@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-QLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:25 AM > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Nicholson/Nichols/Nicholls > > >>I think that I have previously asked this question with no luck so I will >>give it another go now. An ancestor Francis Nicholson died in 1914 >>probably >>in NSW and probably in Sydney. I have looked at the NSW Indexes with no >>luck. There is an inscription on the family grave in Townsville stating >>that he died in 1914, but again there it nothing on the Qld Indexes. After >>1889 the family name changed to Nicholls/Nichols. >> >> Can anyone suggest a course of action? I know that there are many very >> clever people out there who may be able to help. >> >> Dennis Schinkel >> All mail must be typed in plain text, any sent in HTML will bounce and be >> a wasted effort >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.88/2357 - Release Date: 09/09/09 > 17:50:00 > > All mail must be typed in plain text, any sent in HTML will bounce and be > a wasted effort > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.89/2359 - Release Date: 09/10/09 05:50:00