Unfortunately Sarah/Sally Stubbs died in 1861, which is a few years prior to the opening of Ipswich General Cemetery. I don't know of any earlier cemetery in Ipswich, but maybe someone does? Or maybe Sarah/Sally is buried in a lone grave somewhere. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lorrae J Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 5:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site Hi Greg Try the Sexton at Ipswich General Cemetery, Funeral Directors records held at the Ipswich Genealogical Society or Ipswich City Council for burial details. Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://www.lorrae.net/ -----Original Message----- From: James Crighton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site Hi, Ipswich City Council do not apparently have a searchable site for their cemeteries but will conduct searches - contact them at If you require any further information regarding this subject, please contact Council during business hours on (07) 3810 6666 or email [email protected] ..................happy hunting, Jim On 18 January 2012 10:57, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: > Possibly she does not have a headstone which seems to be a common thing > in those days as not every family had money for such thing > Barbara > BNE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Bugden > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:35 AM > To: Aus-QLD Message Board > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site > > Hello Listers > > Sally Owens was a QLD pioneer with a bit of profile in the 1840s-60s. The > Marburg Valley was once known as Sally Owen's Plain. She was the widow of > Samuel Owens who had the Woolpack inn at Old man's Waterhole (Laidley). She > remarried in the 1860s and died as Sarah Stubbs at Ipswich 4th Dec 1861. > The death Cert says she was buried in Ipswich. > > > > I can't locate the gravesite however. Does Anybody have a suggestion? > > > > Regards > > Greg > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6807 (20120118) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Greg Try the Sexton at Ipswich General Cemetery, Funeral Directors records held at the Ipswich Genealogical Society or Ipswich City Council for burial details. Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://www.lorrae.net/ -----Original Message----- From: James Crighton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site Hi, Ipswich City Council do not apparently have a searchable site for their cemeteries but will conduct searches - contact them at If you require any further information regarding this subject, please contact Council during business hours on (07) 3810 6666 or email [email protected] ..................happy hunting, Jim On 18 January 2012 10:57, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: > Possibly she does not have a headstone which seems to be a common thing > in those days as not every family had money for such thing > Barbara > BNE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Bugden > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:35 AM > To: Aus-QLD Message Board > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site > > Hello Listers > > Sally Owens was a QLD pioneer with a bit of profile in the 1840s-60s. The > Marburg Valley was once known as Sally Owen's Plain. She was the widow of > Samuel Owens who had the Woolpack inn at Old man's Waterhole (Laidley). She > remarried in the 1860s and died as Sarah Stubbs at Ipswich 4th Dec 1861. > The death Cert says she was buried in Ipswich. > > > > I can't locate the gravesite however. Does Anybody have a suggestion? > > > > Regards > > Greg > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6807 (20120118) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

The Ipswich cemetery is online. There is an Ada STUBBS age 47 buried 28 june 1931 wife of Edwin STUBBS in the Anglican B. Section Augusta P. STUBBS 6 mar 1963 age 80 Anglican C New section Arthur H. STUBBS 22 sept 1951 age 64 Anglican C.Secton Thats all the STUBBS I could see Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Crighton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site > Hi, > > Ipswich City Council do not apparently have a searchable site for their > cemeteries but will conduct searches - contact them at If you require any > further information regarding this subject, please contact Council during > business hours on (07) 3810 6666 or email [email protected] > ..................happy hunting, Jim > > On 18 January 2012 10:57, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Possibly she does not have a headstone which seems to be a common thing >> in those days as not every family had money for such thing >> Barbara >> BNE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Greg Bugden >> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:35 AM >> To: Aus-QLD Message Board >> Subject: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site >> >> Hello Listers >> >> Sally Owens was a QLD pioneer with a bit of profile in the 1840s-60s. The >> Marburg Valley was once known as Sally Owen's Plain. She was the widow of >> Samuel Owens who had the Woolpack inn at Old man's Waterhole (Laidley). >> She >> remarried in the 1860s and died as Sarah Stubbs at Ipswich 4th Dec 1861. >> The death Cert says she was buried in Ipswich. >> >> >> >> I can't locate the gravesite however. Does Anybody have a suggestion? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >> reply...... Thank you! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >> reply...... Thank you! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4751 - Release Date: 01/18/12 >

Hi Bev I have heard from another lister that the Tivoli Theatre was in Albert St opposite the city hall. He remembers the roof garden and that the theatre closed in 1965. I remember going there in the 1950s-1960s with my boyfriend who became my husband. I have confirmed with my husband that the Tivoli movie theatre had a roof garden where you could also watch movies. I would suggest that this is the place where your grandfather worked. The other Tivoli Theatre Restaurant only came into existence about 1990. Regards Pam in Brisbane

Hello Listers Sally Owens was a QLD pioneer with a bit of profile in the 1840s-60s. The Marburg Valley was once known as Sally Owen's Plain. She was the widow of Samuel Owens who had the Woolpack inn at Old man's Waterhole (Laidley). She remarried in the 1860s and died as Sarah Stubbs at Ipswich 4th Dec 1861. The death Cert says she was buried in Ipswich. I can't locate the gravesite however. Does Anybody have a suggestion? Regards Greg Greg Bugden 140 Brown Street ARMIDALE, NSW, 2350 AUSTRALIA

Tracey This is from the online records for Drayton. They left his first name off the on-line registration but it might still be on his headstone: Burial Record Family Name PICKERING Given Names MONTAGUE Gender Unknown Religion Pres Age at Death 48 Date of Death 23 March 1945 Next of Kin Date of Burial 24 March 1945 Undertaker T S Burstow Minister of Religion A MARTIN Burial Number T374 Cemetery Drayton Location Section: Pres 4, Block: 8, Allotment: 41 Other Interments Headstone Unknown Adornments Gloria

Hi, Ipswich City Council do not apparently have a searchable site for their cemeteries but will conduct searches - contact them at If you require any further information regarding this subject, please contact Council during business hours on (07) 3810 6666 or email [email protected] ..................happy hunting, Jim On 18 January 2012 10:57, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: > Possibly she does not have a headstone which seems to be a common thing > in those days as not every family had money for such thing > Barbara > BNE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Bugden > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:35 AM > To: Aus-QLD Message Board > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Sarah Stubbs grave site > > Hello Listers > > Sally Owens was a QLD pioneer with a bit of profile in the 1840s-60s. The > Marburg Valley was once known as Sally Owen's Plain. She was the widow of > Samuel Owens who had the Woolpack inn at Old man's Waterhole (Laidley). She > remarried in the 1860s and died as Sarah Stubbs at Ipswich 4th Dec 1861. > The death Cert says she was buried in Ipswich. > > > > I can't locate the gravesite however. Does Anybody have a suggestion? > > > > Regards > > Greg > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

looks like they moved around a lot ... a Funeral Notice for a May Gertrude SULLY of Tweed Heads states Mr and Mrs Lionel SULLY were from Adelaide. 1949 Also there is a Elizabeth SULLY who is a publican of the Oakfield Hotel in Adelaide in 1950 Jan

Hi Pam The Tivoli Theatre was most definitely located, in Albert Street, approx mid way between Ann & Adelaide Streets. I regularly went there, from the mid forties (40) until it closed. It did have a Garden Roof, but from my memory it did not operate after the mid fifties (50) Regards John Benfer

Hello Pam, I just googled Costin St. Fortitude Valley and found a map on the yourgigs.com.au site showing it is at 52 Costin St. and appears to be on the corner of Costin St. and Water St. Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Dale" <[email protected]> To: "B. Edmonds" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] TIVOLI THEATRE > Hi Bev > > I don't think the one in Costin St started operating until about the late > 1980s. It was fairly new when I went there. The original building was > built in 1917. From memory it did not have a garden roof. It may have > been something else in between being Adams Cake Shop and the Tivoli. > Surely someone else must remember these theatres. I will have a talk to > my husband and see what he remembers about the movie theatre. > > Pam in Brisbane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: B. Edmonds > To: Pam Dale ; [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:28 PM > Subject: Re: TIVOLI THEATRE > > > Pam & Kerry > > Grandfather worked on the one that has the following which is in his > diary:- > > Repairs to Fly Floor > Set of steps from Fly to Grill > Pugg? under Orchestra & Footlights > New Doors to stairs at Boxes > Switch Box on Garden Roof > Refloor and deafen all Dressing Rooms. > > Plus other work. Unfortunately no year dates, just day and month. > > Which to me sounds like the one near the exhibition Ground. > > Bev > > > > > Hi Bev > > There were two Tivoli Theatres in Brisbane. The first one I remember was > in Albert St. opposite the City Hall and was a movie theatre. I visited > there many times in my teens -1950-1960. It closed down many years ago > when the first city square was built - not the hot-box that is there now. > > The other one that people have mentioned near the Exhibition Ground, in > Costin St, was a live dinner/theatre place that I visited around 1990. > They then went on to have visiting artists. I do not know if it is still > operating. > > Pam in Brisbane > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tracy I live in Toowoomba so if there's anything I might be able to check out for you let me know and I'll see what I can do. The funeral notices for both Elizabeth and Lionel Sully, who died only two months apart, are listed on the web site for the "Ryerson Index" as appearing in the "Sydney Morning Herald": SULLY Elizabeth Death notice 14JUL1961 Death 58 at Canterbury Hospital, late of Campsie Sydney Morning Herald 15JUL1961 SULLY Lionel Death notice 12SEP1961 Death late of Campsie Sydney Morning Herald 14SEP1961 You can go to the Ryerson Index web site and request a look-up of those funeral notices (or someone on this list may have access to them) which should show where they are buried and maybe follow it up from there to see if they are together. Regards Gloria

Tracy, The people at this site may be able to help you. Toowoomba Dead Persons Society Christine -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Most people who are asked about the Tivoli movie theatre will remember that it was opposite the City Hall in line with the Albert Street Methodist Church on the corner and Wallace Bishop on the corner opposite where the Commonwealth Bank is now. Let me ask this. Do you remember when we had coloured water fountains, numerous famous statues, a World class square (not like the thing we have now) and cars that could pass the front of the City Hall in both directions separated by the fountains where as children we would stand and watch them change colour and watch the different patterns? For those who remember all this will also know where the Tivoli was. Colin ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19080) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

Hi Bev I don't think the one in Costin St started operating until about the late 1980s. It was fairly new when I went there. The original building was built in 1917. From memory it did not have a garden roof. It may have been something else in between being Adams Cake Shop and the Tivoli. Surely someone else must remember these theatres. I will have a talk to my husband and see what he remembers about the movie theatre. Pam in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: B. Edmonds To: Pam Dale ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:28 PM Subject: Re: TIVOLI THEATRE Pam & Kerry Grandfather worked on the one that has the following which is in his diary:- Repairs to Fly Floor Set of steps from Fly to Grill Pugg? under Orchestra & Footlights New Doors to stairs at Boxes Switch Box on Garden Roof Refloor and deafen all Dressing Rooms. Plus other work. Unfortunately no year dates, just day and month. Which to me sounds like the one near the exhibition Ground. Bev Hi Bev There were two Tivoli Theatres in Brisbane. The first one I remember was in Albert St. opposite the City Hall and was a movie theatre. I visited there many times in my teens -1950-1960. It closed down many years ago when the first city square was built - not the hot-box that is there now. The other one that people have mentioned near the Exhibition Ground, in Costin St, was a live dinner/theatre place that I visited around 1990. They then went on to have visiting artists. I do not know if it is still operating. Pam in Brisbane

Hi Barbara The original Tivoli Theatre was situated in Albert St opposite the City Hall - as mentioned by another Lister. Apparently it began with vaudeville; concerts etc. (at least this is my recollection of what my mother told me when we visited it in later years when it became a picture theatre. The bottom theatre area was called the "Tivoli" with the upstairs called "The Roof Garden". Two separate entities - more expensive going to the Roof Garden. They usually ran the more "off- beat "movies of the time. I remember her telling me about a Beauty Contest they held there. She had apparently entered but "ran a mile" when she found out she had to wear a bathing suit! I would say this would have been c.1920s. Would try John Oxley for these early records and photos. Regards, Kay On Wed, Jan 18th, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Barbara <[email protected]> wrote: > The name "Tivoli" is now used on a nightclub down near the Exhibition > Grounds

Pam & Kerry Grandfather worked on the one that has the following which is in his diary:- Repairs to Fly Floor Set of steps from Fly to Grill Pugg? under Orchestra & Footlights New Doors to stairs at Boxes Switch Box on Garden Roof Refloor and deafen all Dressing Rooms. Plus other work. Unfortunately no year dates, just day and month. Which to me sounds like the one near the exhibition Ground. Bev Hi Bev There were two Tivoli Theatres in Brisbane. The first one I remember was in Albert St. opposite the City Hall and was a movie theatre. I visited there many times in my teens -1950-1960. It closed down many years ago when the first city square was built - not the hot-box that is there now. The other one that people have mentioned near the Exhibition Ground, in Costin St, was a live dinner/theatre place that I visited around 1990. They then went on to have visiting artists. I do not know if it is still operating. Pam in Brisbane

It may also be possible to locate his grave through the Toowoomba Regional Council's website thru their program "gravefinder".......check out http://www.toowoombarc.qld.gov.au/facilities-and-recreation/cemeteries/deceased-search.html?view=burial&id=2bd568b0-db86-4298-94f0-ce0737709d2b

Hi - from a History of "Toowoomba Hotels compiled by John Clements", which may still be available to purchase from the local family history library here, he states that the Stock Exchange Hotel, situated along Anzac Avenue, Toowoomba, was once known as the Forest Inn and then renamed Forest Hotel about 1887(?) and back to Forest Inn in around 1903. It was thought that Captain Thunderbolt stayed at this hotel around 1865. The name was changed to Stock Exchange Hotel on 12 December 1940 and Elizabeth SULLY was the publican from 1940 - 46 but she is also list as the publican for the Fiveways Hotel in 1940. No mention of the Pickering name sadly...................JC On 18 January 2012 07:16, doug&jan <[email protected]> wrote: > A photo of his grave can be obtained here > > www.freewebs.com/toowoombacemetery > > > Jan > a.. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracy Pilet" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:07 AM > Subject: [AUS-QLD] PICKERING/SULLY, Stock Exchange Hotel, Toowoomba > > > I’ve been researching my family tree for a number of years and for most of > them the fate of my grandfather’s younger brother Ivor Montague PICKERING > remained a mystery. He was born in Woodville, New Zealand, in October 1907 > and sometime in the late 1930s/1940s he disappeared. He only came to light > again when I obtained a copy of his mother’s death certificate which showed > she had four sons instead of three. Before that his nieces and nephews > didn’t even know he existed! We imagine that there must have been some sort > of scandal for him to have left the country and for his name never to be > mentioned again! > > > > I’ve managed to work out that he left New Zealand and moved first to Sydney > and then Toowoomba in the late 1930s/early 1940s and that he was employed > as the Manager of the Stock Exchange Hotel, Toowoomba, in the early 1940s. > He died in March 1945 of alcohol poisoning at the Toowoomba Hospital and is > buried in the Drayton Cemetery. Another mystery is that the grave he is in > is a double one and the joint owner of the grave with Ivor was Elizabeth > SULLY who was the owner of the Stock Exchange Hotel and who was married (to > Lionel SULLY). It seems that she was never buried in the other grave but > when she died she was buried elsewhere. > > > > I’d like to make contact with any members of the SULLY family or anyone who > might know the history of the Stock Exchange Hotel. I’d also like to find > the resting place of Elizabeth and Lionel SULLY to know whether they were > buried together. > > > > Regards > > > > Tracy Pilet > > New Zealand > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4747 - Release Date: 01/16/12 > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well well well, the Tivoli Theatre now in Costin Street was the Adams' cake factory in 1938. This photo of it in an advertisement has the same external features as the building still standing today: http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/36911457 Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 5:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Tivoli Theatre Brisbane So, were there 2 Tivoli Theatres? Or was the one in Costin Street (near the Exhibition Grounds) called something else previously? The one in Costin Street dates back to 1917. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: Barbara [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 10:52 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Tivoli Theatre Brisbane The name "Tivoli" is now used on a nightclub down near the Exhibition Grounds there has been some reports and old photos in the Courier Mail some years ago (Can't remember when) when they did a separate supplement on the older view of Brisbane. Has John Oxley got any information Barbara BNE -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Raymond Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Tivoli Theatre Brisbane "The Tiv" is still operating so maybe start with asking them: http://www.thetivoli.net.au/contact_us.php Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Tivoli Theatre Brisbane Morning all, Would anyone know if there is a collection of historical memorabilia being collected on behalf of the above named Tivoli Theatre in Brisbane? Thanks Bev Edmonds Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So, were there 2 Tivoli Theatres? Or was the one in Costin Street (near the Exhibition Grounds) called something else previously? The one in Costin Street dates back to 1917. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: Barbara [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 10:52 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Tivoli Theatre Brisbane The name "Tivoli" is now used on a nightclub down near the Exhibition Grounds there has been some reports and old photos in the Courier Mail some years ago (Can't remember when) when they did a separate supplement on the older view of Brisbane. Has John Oxley got any information Barbara BNE -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Raymond Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Tivoli Theatre Brisbane "The Tiv" is still operating so maybe start with asking them: http://www.thetivoli.net.au/contact_us.php Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Tivoli Theatre Brisbane Morning all, Would anyone know if there is a collection of historical memorabilia being collected on behalf of the above named Tivoli Theatre in Brisbane? Thanks Bev Edmonds Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message