When I was looking at births for WELLS in NSW, I found that a few of them were registered at the TWEED RIVER, which is on the NSW/QLD border. Perhaps her birth was never registered, and why she said she was born in QLD. I still think her wedding certificate, if you can obtain a copy, is your best bet. Regards, Wynnette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells > Thanks Kerry > > 1936 is about the time Sonia WELLS appears on the radar. > > Where was she between 1898 and 1936?? > > Graham > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4820 - Release Date: 02/19/12

The son died in 2009 according to the Ryerson Index: WIGHTMAN Reginald Warren Death notice 22AUG2009 Death 72 at Orbost Regional Hospital, formerly of Bemm River Herald Sun (Melbourne) 01SEP2009 -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Raymond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 4:16 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells There is a military file on Reginald Warren Wightman in the National Archives: WIGHTMAN REGINALD WARREN : Service Number - R50365 : Date of birth - 10 May 1937 : Place of birth - PADDINGTON NSW : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY : Next of Kin - BARBARA Obviously from the date of birth he is not the husband Reginald, but he could be the son Warren mentioned in the death notice. And when you look at the digitized file (all 2 pages of it), his address on enlistment in 1955 is 3B Oxford Street, Burwood, which is the address for Sonia in the 1963 electoral roll. It shows Warren has a wife Barbara Rose. And the NSW BDMs confirm this: 11398/1959 WIGHTMAN REGINALD WARREN MACGUIRE BARBARA ROSE BURWOOD

There is a military file on Reginald Warren Wightman in the National Archives: WIGHTMAN REGINALD WARREN : Service Number - R50365 : Date of birth - 10 May 1937 : Place of birth - PADDINGTON NSW : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY : Next of Kin - BARBARA Obviously from the date of birth he is not the husband Reginald, but he could be the son Warren mentioned in the death notice. And when you look at the digitized file (all 2 pages of it), his address on enlistment in 1955 is 3B Oxford Street, Burwood, which is the address for Sonia in the 1963 electoral roll. It shows Warren has a wife Barbara Rose. And the NSW BDMs confirm this: 11398/1959 WIGHTMAN REGINALD WARREN MACGUIRE BARBARA ROSE BURWOOD

I looked up the newspaper in Google Archives and it says: WIGHTMAN, Sonia - May 3, 1987, at hospital, late of Rydalmere, wife of Reginald (deceased) and loved mother of Patricia, Dawn, Warren and families. Aged 88 years. In God's care. Private cremated. So if Reginald is deceased, the electoral rolls suggested he was deceased by 1936. Kerry

>From the electoral rolls: 1936 Sonia Wightman living at 15 Calvert Street, Marrickville, home duties 1949 Sonia Wightman living at 46 Park Road, Burwood, home duties 1963 Sonia Wightman living at 3B Oxford street, Burwood, saleswoman 1980 Sonia Wightman living at 14/12 Sylvia Street, Rydalmere, -- The "--" occupation is often found on retired people, which would make sense as she would be 82 years old at this point. However, in all of the above, there was no other Wightman living with her. So there is nothing to connect these entries to Reginald. But on the other hand, there is only one Sonia Wightman turning up in the electoral rolls. The Ryerson Index has: WIGHTMAN Sonia Death notice 03MAY1987 Death 88 late of Rydalmere Sydney Morning Herald 07MAY1987 If she was born in late 1898, then she would be 88 in May 1987. Kerry

Dear List, Will it be possible for somebody to help me with the following please? SURNAME Given Name/s Page Item ID Prev Sys M/film N SMITH F E 108 18351 COL/434 Z50 I have been doing research on my grandfather for fifteen years without any success in finding him. He was Frederick Ernest Smith, he fought in the Boer War and stayed on in South Africa after the war. Your kind help will be much appreciated, Thank you in advance, Regards from South Africa, Karin Serfontein nee Smith

Thanks Kerry 1936 is about the time Sonia WELLS appears on the radar. Where was she between 1898 and 1936?? Graham -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: 20 February 2012 05:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells >From the electoral rolls: 1936 Sonia Wightman living at 15 Calvert Street, Marrickville, home duties 1949 Sonia Wightman living at 46 Park Road, Burwood, home duties 1963 Sonia Wightman living at 3B Oxford street, Burwood, saleswoman 1980 Sonia Wightman living at 14/12 Sylvia Street, Rydalmere, -- The "--" occupation is often found on retired people, which would make sense as she would be 82 years old at this point. However, in all of the above, there was no other Wightman living with her. So there is nothing to connect these entries to Reginald. But on the other hand, there is only one Sonia Wightman turning up in the electoral rolls. The Ryerson Index has: WIGHTMAN Sonia Death notice 03MAY1987 Death 88 late of Rydalmere Sydney Morning Herald 07MAY1987 If she was born in late 1898, then she would be 88 in May 1987. Kerry Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Reginald and Sonia "separated"..................Sonia had another child but never remarried. I am not sure but I don't think Reg and Sonia actually divorced. Graham -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: 20 February 2012 06:06 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells I looked up the newspaper in Google Archives and it says: WIGHTMAN, Sonia - May 3, 1987, at hospital, late of Rydalmere, wife of Reginald (deceased) and loved mother of Patricia, Dawn, Warren and families. Aged 88 years. In God's care. Private cremated. So if Reginald is deceased, the electoral rolls suggested he was deceased by 1936. Kerry Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kerry Many thanks for all your information. This fits well. Sonia however is a big mystery!! Graham xx -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: 20 February 2012 06:20 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells The son died in 2009 according to the Ryerson Index: WIGHTMAN Reginald Warren Death notice 22AUG2009 Death 72 at Orbost Regional Hospital, formerly of Bemm River Herald Sun (Melbourne) 01SEP2009 -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Raymond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 4:16 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells There is a military file on Reginald Warren Wightman in the National Archives: WIGHTMAN REGINALD WARREN : Service Number - R50365 : Date of birth - 10 May 1937 : Place of birth - PADDINGTON NSW : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY : Next of Kin - BARBARA Obviously from the date of birth he is not the husband Reginald, but he could be the son Warren mentioned in the death notice. And when you look at the digitized file (all 2 pages of it), his address on enlistment in 1955 is 3B Oxford Street, Burwood, which is the address for Sonia in the 1963 electoral roll. It shows Warren has a wife Barbara Rose. And the NSW BDMs confirm this: 11398/1959 WIGHTMAN REGINALD WARREN MACGUIRE BARBARA ROSE BURWOOD Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Christine I think that Ebenezer Allan is actually Ebenezer Harold born in 1909 somewhere along the line the name looks to have changed... Just wanted to make sure there wasnt another Ebenezer Allan born after 1914 Thanks for the look up much appreciated Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Birth Look up please after 1914 PEARSON > Are you sure that his birth occurred after 1914? > > I found a Brisbane newspaper article in 1937 where it stated that Ebenezer > Allan Pearson > was aged 28. > Cyclist Injured In Collision > > Cheers, > Christine > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4819 - Release Date: 02/19/12 >

Are you sure that his birth occurred after 1914? I found a Brisbane newspaper article in 1937 where it stated that Ebenezer Allan Pearson was aged 28. Cyclist Injured In Collision Cheers, Christine

Graham, Reginald WIGHTMAN & Sonia WELLS, married 1931 (12595/1931), at Randwick in Sydney. No listing for them in the 1934 or 1941 QLD Electoral Rolls. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW (but always a Queensland girl). [email protected] http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 8 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Graham, Just had a quick look for your Sonia. Not that uncommon, I have known a few in my time. I have had no luck with her, but have found a couple of May Sloan/e's and one Frederick Wells. I found on the Australian newspaper collection of Trove a funeral for a Frederick George Wells in NSW on 23 April, 1936. It doesn't actually name his family members, just asks if the friends of "Mrs" would care to attend. Ah, his wife's surname was Quigley, married in 1880. I have found a May Sloane in Queensland, but not "officially" having children until around 1910. Also a May Sloan in New South Wales marrying a Norman P Gill in 1911. I suppose you have noticed that Amy is an anagram of May? Has the name been muddled? The newspaper Sydney Morning Herald repoted on 6 May, 1905, that an 18 year old Reginald Wightman, a clerk, stole a cheque from his step-father George Mallow (who brought the prosecution - Reginald was working for him) which was used to bet on the horses. He was sentenced to three months with hard labour, but the sentence was then suspended and he was put on a good behaviour bond for 12 months. I did find your marriage, however. WIGHTMAN, Reginald married WELLS, Sonia in 1931 in Randwick (a suburb of Sydney) New South Wales. Reg. 1931/12695 Getting a copy of that certificate would give you more information, (as long as they didn't tell fibs) but I believe the person applying has to be either one of the parties, or the nearest direct descendant or relative still living. http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=marriages Neither of them died before 1981 in the official NSW records, but I did find a stillborn son born in 1942 to a May Isobel Wightman at Paddington in Sydney. Reg. 1942/11897 The prefix "R" was added to this registration, which usually means that the entry is also entered twice into the records, usually with an alternative spelling of the surname or another surname. Ah, a search under the registration number only, shows another surname of LOVE. Did they move elsewhere? If Reg was 18 in 1905, by the time the 1981 finish of online death registrations in NSW he would have been close to 95! That's all I can find for you at the moment, hope this helps a little, Wynnette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:53 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells > G'day to you all > > Trying to find out any information I can about > > Sonia WELLS said to have been born circa 1898 in Queensland > (Brisbane??).she > was to marry a Reginald WIGHTMAN circa 1931. > > Her father is said to have been Frederick George WELLS a farmer and her > mother was said to have been May Amy SLOANE. > > This may be pure conjecture but Sonia is not a common Australian name and > COULD be a derivative of Sophia which may be Russian. Could Sonia have > been > from a Russian family?? > > Any help would be very much appreciated > > Graham Taylor > > The land of Robin Hood > > Nottingham > > UK ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4817 - Release Date: 02/18/12

Could someone pls tell me what the initials BBP are on a Qld birth certificate. I have a family of 3 all with the same birth year but with different numbers beside BBP.   Kind thanks Marg

www.ww2roll.gov.au lists an Ebenezer Allan PEARSON, date of birth 8 February, 1908, born Brisbane, NOK Janet Pearson - NAA file available, but you would have to request a copy. Qld BDM has a 1908 birth for Rhoda Maud, s/o of Ebenezer John and Lilian Vida Wilson ??? Cheers Barbara Cheers

Thanks Barbara this is all helping to put the puzzle together Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara OConnor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Birth Look up please after 1914 PEARSON > www.ww2roll.gov.au lists an Ebenezer Allan PEARSON, date of birth 8 > February, 1908, born Brisbane, NOK Janet Pearson - NAA file available, but > you would have to request a copy. > > Qld BDM has a 1908 birth for Rhoda Maud, s/o of Ebenezer John and Lilian > Vida Wilson ??? > > Cheers > Barbara > > > > Cheers > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4817 - Release Date: 02/18/12 >

G'day to you all Trying to find out any information I can about Sonia WELLS said to have been born circa 1898 in Queensland (Brisbane??).she was to marry a Reginald WIGHTMAN circa 1931. Her father is said to have been Frederick George WELLS a farmer and her mother was said to have been May Amy SLOANE. This may be pure conjecture but Sonia is not a common Australian name and COULD be a derivative of Sophia which may be Russian. Could Sonia have been from a Russian family?? Any help would be very much appreciated Graham Taylor The land of Robin Hood Nottingham UK

Thanks Jules he is the mystery man Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie dern" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Birth Look up please after 1914 PEARSON > Hi Jan, > > No sign of Ebenezer in the QLD births to 1919. I also checked the NSW CD & > no sign there. > > Cheers, Jules. > Warren, NSW (but always a Queensland girl). > > [email protected] > http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 8 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4817 - Release Date: 02/18/12 >

Hi Jan, No sign of Ebenezer in the QLD births to 1919. I also checked the NSW CD & no sign there. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW (but always a Queensland girl). [email protected] http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 8 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks Gloria for your help. Regards Marg