Hi Anne, Annie TINNING buried 26/12/1952 age 65 and Frederick James TINNING buried 27/10/1953 age 74 both in Lutwyche Cem. Part Monumental Port 13 section 8 grave 8 Eliza Flora TINNING buried 25/3/1899 Evelyne Tinning WAUGH buried 23/01/ 1907 Annie WAUGH buried 4/7/1908 all buried in Toowong Cemetery Port. 11 Sect 20 Grave 5 Margaret TINNING buried 8/8/1931 Elizabeth HIRST buried 9/8/1919 Both buried South Brisbane Cemetery Port 8 B grave 399 **photo on Australian Cemetery Index Olive Mary TINNING buried 10/1/2000 age 74 buried Pinaroo Cemetery Portion MPL Section SING Grave 118 *the above burials are the only ones on the City Council Index. ........................... on the 1922 Electoral Roll there are only 5 TINNING entries Annie TINNING .... Montville Sub Div. Nambour.... Home duties Frederick James TINNING Montville Sub Div Nambour Fruitgrower Eliza Jane TINNING Nambour, Hamilton rd. Nundah Sub Div Nundah No occupation listed Robert TINNING Nambour, Hamilton Rd.Nundah Sub Div Nundah Fruitgrower Margaret TINNING Hartshorn's, 66 William St. Sub Div Maree.. Home duties Emily Elizabeth HARTSHORN Airedale, 66 William St. sub Div Maree Home duties John Henry HARTSHORN Airedale, 66 Wiliam St. sub div Maree Public Servant. Hugh RAE Hamilton Rd. Nundah Clerk Lillian Hannah RAE Hamilton Rd. Nundah Home duties. Robert Morris WAUGH ..Mrs. R. Tinnings Hamilton Rd. Nundah Labourer ................. 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL again only 5 entries Annie TINNING Mt. Mellum sub Div. Landsborough Home duties Frederick James TINNING Mt. Mellum sub Div. Landsborough Fruitgrower Eliza Jane TINNING Nambour, Hamilton Rd. Nundah No Occupation listed Robert Morris WAUGH Mt. Mellum sub div Landsborough Labourer Helen TINNING 126 Sheridan St. sub Div Cairns Home duties Walter TINNING 126 Sheridan St. sub Div Cairns Labourer ................................................ 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL only 4 entries Annie TINNING Mt Mellum sub div Landsborough Home duties Frederick James TINNING Mt. Mellum sub div Landsborough Fruitgrower Olive Marion TINNING Mt. Mellum, via Landsborough Home duties Walter TINNING Innisfail Hotel, Innisfail Labourer. Robert Morris WAUGH 885 Stanley St. East Brisbane Labourer Alice Victoria WAUGH 885 Stanley St. East Brisbane Home duties .............................................. THESE are the only marriages on the Historical Index. actual dates come from the Federation Index & Pioneer Index 1862/B226 GEDDES Thomas TINNING Mary (4/2/1862) ***No further info on the Index for this couple 1896/B18279 WAUGH James TINNING Annie (16/10/1896) 1902/B1690 HIRST William TINNING Elizabeth (12/3/1902) 1912/B11851 LEITCH Annie TINNING Frederick James (27/6/1912) 1912/C2138 RAE Hugh TINNING Lilian (15/7/1912) 1930/C124 MacDONALD Helen TINNING Walter .............................................................................. THESE are the only deaths on the Historical Index Eliza Jane TINNING Father John Oliver Mother -ref 1936/B31439 Eliza Flora TINNING Father Robert Tinning Mother Eliza Jane Oliver ref 1899/C1904 d.24/3/1899 Margaret TINNING Father James Tinning Mother Mary Maitland ref 1931/B14838 Robert TINNING Father James Mother Hannah Blanick ref 1934/B24867 Annie TINNING Father Robert Leitch Mother Jane Foster ref 1953/B41638 Frederick James TINNING Father Robert Mother Ellen Jane Oliver ref 1953/B46035 Tinning TINNING NO Parents -just says.born South Sea Islands aged 36 years ref 1904/C4239 d. 19/12/1904 ............................................... Annie TINNING and James WAUGH had 5 Children from the Fed. Index could be more after. Lilias Maude 21/10/1896 ref 1896/1608 Robert Morris 17/8/1898 ref 1898/1573...*Mothers name spelt TIMMING on index. Cathleen Midge 25/10/1900 ref 1900/4437 Flora Annie 30/1/1903 ref 1903/3290 Evelyne 29/12/1905 ref 1906/3875 d. 22/1/1907 ref 1907/1359 Phyllis May 15/6/1908 ref 1908/B17484 ......................................... No children on the index for Elizabeth TINNING and William HIRST there is a death of a William HIRST 15/2/1913 Father Thomas HIRST Mother Sarah CLEWS ref 1913/B17194.... perhaps this is him...or maybe the moved interstate.. ..................................................... Annie WAUGH died 2/7/1908 Father Robert TINNING Mother Eliza Jane OLIVER ref 1908/B9737 ......................... from the AVRI TINNING, Robert CM 972195 Marriage Spouse: OLIVER, Eliza Jane Marriage Place: Belfast Reg Year: 1873 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 1438 . TINNING, Annie CB 2046914 Birth Father: Robert Mother: Oliver Eliza Jane Event Place: Hamilton Reg Year: 1874 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 2809 TINNING, Eliza Flora CB 2046919 Birth Father: Robert Mother: Oliver Eliza Jane Event Place: Hami Reg Year: 1875 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 16406 TINNING, Frederick James CB 2046924 Birth Father: Robert Mother: Oliver Eliza Jane Event Place: Ha Mi Reg Year: 1878 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 23369 TINNING, Lillian Hannah CB 2046928 Birth Father: Robert Mother: Oliven Eliza Jane Event Place: Hamilton Reg Year: 1877 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 16068 On the AVRI there are 2 other marriages in Victoria and 2 in Tasmania. for TINNING 5 deaths 3 in Vict. and 2 in Tas. quite a few other Births. .......................................... Lillian Hannah RAE died 1960 Father Robert TINNING Mother Eliza Jane OLIVER ref 1960/B38995 buried 9/7/1960 age 82 buried with husband Hugh buried 24/6/1968 age 90 Lutwyche Cem. Mon. GP1 sect 54A grave 7 ......................... Eva BAKER born 4/1/1896 Father Henry Mother Mary Ann TINNING ref 1896/10745 .......................... John James TINNING died 24/6/1981 age 48 buried in Julia Creek. Qld. ................ ARMY SERVICE TINNING WALTER : Service Number - QX2252 : Date of birth - 30 Mar 1906 : Place of birth - DUMFRIES SCOTLAND : Place of enlistment - TOWNSVILLE QLD : Next of Kin - TINNING WALTER TINNING WALTER : Service Number - QX500692 : Date of birth - 30 Mar 1910 : Place of birth - EAGLESFIELD SCOTLAND : Place of enlistment - WACOL QLD : Next of Kin - MILLER ELLIS WAUGH ROBERT MORRIS : Service Number - Q123476 : Date of birth - 17 Aug 1898 : Place of birth - BRISBANE QLD : Place of enlistment - BRISBANE QLD : Next of Kin - WAUGH VICTORIA WAUGH Robert Morris : Service Number - 53276 : Place of Birth - Strathpine QLD : Place of Enlistment - Brisbane QLD : Next of Kin - (Father) WAUGH James *******(James address in 1917 ..Banyo Sandgate Line) .......................................... TROVE Newspaper site has quite a few articles on this Family .......................... RYERSON INDEX has 31 entries for TINNING but mostly in NSW. ................. National Archives has deportation papers for a James TINNING ................................... cheers Jan > > Descendants of Robert Tinning > ------------------------------ > 1-Robert Tinning d. 28th July, 1934, Nundah, , Brisbane, , Queensland. > Australia > +Eliza Jane b. 1851, d. 2nd May 1936., Brisbane , , Queensland, Australia > |--2-Margaret Tinning b. Abt 1859, , , Cumberland, England, bur. 8 AUG > 1931, > | Brisbane , , Queensland, Australia > |--2-Lilian Hannah Tinning b. 1878, d. 7 JUL 1960, Brisbane , , > Queensland, > | Australia > +Hugh Rae b. 1877, , , , Scotland, d. JAN 1968, Brisbane , , > Queensland, > Australia > > > I also have: > Hi, I'm trying to find my family tree here in England, My father was > Robert Tinning who passed away in Australia in 2002, his fathers name > was James Tinning born on the 10th March 1895, who married Mary > Elizabeth Dixon Graham on the 24th July 1925, I believe that James > Tinning father was William Tinning whose wife's name was Jessie, they > lived in Longtown, in the county of Cumberland, any help would be > appreciated. > Ian Graham Tinning > > I have not been able to trace Ian Graham Tinning who wrote "my father > was Robert Tinning who passed away in Australia in 2002" > > I have done a lot of research of TINNINGs in Ausralia but not much yet > in Queensland. I would really like to follow these lines if it is > possible. > > Thank you for your kind offer ! > > Anne > > > On 25/02/2012 8:01 PM, doug&jan wrote: >> If you could provide a date and some names maybe I can do a few look ups >> for >> you. >> >> Jan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anne Hollingshead"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:01 PM >> Subject: [AUS-QLD] TINNING family >> >> >>> I am trying to track down TINNING ancestors in Queensland. >>> >>> Any help would be much appreciated. >>> >>>

I have : Descendants of Robert Tinning ------------------------------ 1-Robert Tinning d. 28th July, 1934, Nundah, , Brisbane, , Queensland. Australia +Eliza Jane b. 1851, d. 2nd May 1936., Brisbane , , Queensland, Australia |--2-Margaret Tinning b. Abt 1859, , , Cumberland, England, bur. 8 AUG 1931, | Brisbane , , Queensland, Australia |--2-Lilian Hannah Tinning b. 1878, d. 7 JUL 1960, Brisbane , , Queensland, | Australia +Hugh Rae b. 1877, , , , Scotland, d. JAN 1968, Brisbane , , Queensland, Australia I also have: Hi, I'm trying to find my family tree here in England, My father was Robert Tinning who passed away in Australia in 2002, his fathers name was James Tinning born on the 10th March 1895, who married Mary Elizabeth Dixon Graham on the 24th July 1925, I believe that James Tinning father was William Tinning whose wife's name was Jessie, they lived in Longtown, in the county of Cumberland, any help would be appreciated. Ian Graham Tinning I have not been able to trace Ian Graham Tinning who wrote "my father was Robert Tinning who passed away in Australia in 2002" I have done a lot of research of TINNINGs in Ausralia but not much yet in Queensland. I would really like to follow these lines if it is possible. Thank you for your kind offer ! Anne On 25/02/2012 8:01 PM, doug&jan wrote: > If you could provide a date and some names maybe I can do a few look ups for > you. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hollingshead"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:01 PM > Subject: [AUS-QLD] TINNING family > > >> I am trying to track down TINNING ancestors in Queensland. >> >> Any help would be much appreciated. >> >> Anne >> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >> reply...... Thank you! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4829 - Release Date: 02/24/12 >> > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Karin http://www.bwm.org.au/site/Database_by_Ancestor.asp#aS According to Murray's list, 481 Nominal Roll 75. SMITH, Frederick Edward, Private, invalided to Australia, arr 19.11.00 There is also this report at the National Archives: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/Login.htm if F E is your person. MP744/3 1900/9330 Smith F.E. - medical report Access status: Open Location: Melbourne 1900 - 1900 1175879 No record of Frederick Ernest but Frederick Edward is there. Do you know his date of birth, or his date of death? Who were his parents? Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://www.lorrae.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Karin Serfontein [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 11:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Greetings from South Africa Dear List, Will it be possible for somebody to help me with the following please? SURNAME Given Name/s Page Item ID Prev Sys M/film N SMITH F E 108 18351 COL/434 Z50 I have been doing research on my grandfather for fifteen years without any success in finding him. He was Frederick Ernest Smith, he fought in the Boer War and stayed on in South Africa after the war. Your kind help will be much appreciated, Thank you in advance, Regards from South Africa, Karin Serfontein nee Smith __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6913 (20120224) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

If you could provide a date and some names maybe I can do a few look ups for you. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hollingshead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] TINNING family >I am trying to track down TINNING ancestors in Queensland. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Anne > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4829 - Release Date: 02/24/12 >

I am trying to track down TINNING ancestors in Queensland. Any help would be much appreciated. Anne

Hi Stephen I don't know why those Declarations were required but they were still in use in 1939 when my parents were married in Townsville. My dad was 23 and my mum only 19, meaning she still required her mother's consent, but my parents still had to sign this declaration (Schedule C, 28 Victoria No. 15) and there had not been anything untoward in their lives. Both mothers were widows but I doubt this would have had any effect that would necessitate such a declaration. Gloria **

Hi there Bob and Kerrie, so, despite the unusual circumstances of their marriage, it seems the consent forms were standard kit. I've never married, nor have I had much to do with the legal rigmarole of marriages. This is the only time I've seen such consent forms. Thanks for the info ... -- Stephen On 22 Feb 2012, at 1:06 AM, sandra wrote: > I have the original of my parents marriage certificate of 4 July > 1944 and > they also have these clauses on it. So I think it was standard > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Nicholson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:36 PM > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Marriage Consent forms 1927 > > >> Hi there all, >> >> in 1927 my grandparents were married at St. Mary's RC church in >> Maryborough. >> >> I have inherited a photocopy of their original marriage certificate >> from the time, however along with that came a "Consent Form". >> >> I can understand that such a form may have been required for couples >> marrying when under the age of 21, however for my grandparents this >> was not the case. My grandfather was 21 and his wife-to-be was 24.

I think this is just a standard form in which the parties declare there is no impediment to their marriage. The modern form: http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA256902000FE154/Lookup/BDMApplication_Form s/$file/Notice_Form.pdf has a space for the details of divorces, deaths of other spouses etc to be documented in lieu of the older declaration of there being no impediment. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Nicholson Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 9:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Marriage Consent forms 1927 Hi there all, in 1927 my grandparents were married at St. Mary's RC church in Maryborough. I have inherited a photocopy of their original marriage certificate from the time, however along with that came a "Consent Form". I can understand that such a form may have been required for couples marrying when under the age of 21, however for my grandparents this was not the case. My grandfather was 21 and his wife-to-be was 24. The consent form seems to be a declaration under oath that there is no impediment to their marriage. There are a number of dubious circumstances surrounding the marriage. Firstly, my grandfather was arrested and charged with sleeping with an underage (at the time 16 y.o.) girl. The alleged offence occurred abt AUG 1926. In DEC 1926 he was arrested. For some reason the prosecution case collapsed, along with his trial in MAR 1927. This I can verify through Trove newspaper and Qld Police Gazette sources. Family legend has it that the girl that he slept with went on to have his child, and in a paternity suite, she was awarded 18 years of maintenance. I have no ability to verify this - any hints welcomed. Secondly, around the time of his arrest in DEC 1926, he already sleeping with another woman who became my grandmother. By the time they officially married in APR 1927 in Maryborough, she was already 4-5 months pregnant with their first child. Does anyone have more information about these Consent Forms, and why they may have to been required to sign them, based on the circumstances already mentioned? There are obvious possibilities ... but I would welcome any opinions - esp. the legal necessities of such forms. Thanks ... -- Stephen Nicholson (Wollongong) [Below is the transcript of the form] -------------- Transcript of Consent Form: SCHEDULE C, 28 VICTORIA No. 15. Declaration before Surrogate, District Registrar, or Minister. I, Cecil Louis Meyers of Longreach being duly sworn, do on my oath declare ____ (empty)____ that I believe there is no impediment or lawful objection by reason of any kindred relationship or alliance, or any former marriage, or the want of consent of Parents or Guardians, or any other lawful cause, to my being married to ____ Mary Tyler of Alton Downs via Rockhampton daughter of William Tyler of Alton Downs. SIGNATURE OF MAN: Cecil Louis Meyers. And I, the said Mary Tyler of Alton Downs do on my oath declare _________ that I believe there is no impediment or lawful objection, by any such reason or lawful cause as aforesaid, to my being married to the said Cecil Louis Meyers. SIGNATURE OF WOMAN: Mary Tyler. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If Annie PITTARD is still on this list could you please write to me, Greg

I have the original of my parents marriage certificate of 4 July 1944 and they also have these clauses on it. So I think it was standard Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Nicholson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:36 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Marriage Consent forms 1927 > Hi there all, > > in 1927 my grandparents were married at St. Mary's RC church in > Maryborough. > > I have inherited a photocopy of their original marriage certificate > from the time, however along with that came a "Consent Form". > > I can understand that such a form may have been required for couples > marrying when under the age of 21, however for my grandparents this > was not the case. My grandfather was 21 and his wife-to-be was 24. > > The consent form seems to be a declaration under oath that there is no > impediment to their marriage. > > There are a number of dubious circumstances surrounding the marriage. > > Firstly, my grandfather was arrested and charged with sleeping with an > underage (at the time 16 y.o.) girl. The alleged offence occurred abt > AUG 1926. In DEC 1926 he was arrested. For some reason the prosecution > case collapsed, along with his trial in MAR 1927. This I can verify > through Trove newspaper and Qld Police Gazette sources. > > Family legend has it that the girl that he slept with went on to have > his child, and in a paternity suite, she was awarded 18 years of > maintenance. I have no ability to verify this - any hints welcomed. > > Secondly, around the time of his arrest in DEC 1926, he already > sleeping with another woman who became my grandmother. By the time > they officially married in APR 1927 in Maryborough, she was already > 4-5 months pregnant with their first child. > > Does anyone have more information about these Consent Forms, and why > they may have to been required to sign them, based on the > circumstances already mentioned? There are obvious possibilities ... > but I would welcome any opinions - esp. the legal necessities of such > forms. > > Thanks ... > > -- Stephen Nicholson (Wollongong) > > [Below is the transcript of the form] > > -------------- > > > Transcript of Consent Form: > > SCHEDULE C, 28 VICTORIA No. 15. > > Declaration before Surrogate, District Registrar, or Minister. > > I, Cecil Louis Meyers of Longreach > being duly sworn, do on my oath declare ____ (empty)____ > that I believe there is no impediment or lawful objection by reason of > any kindred > relationship or alliance, or any former marriage, or the want of > consent of Parents or > Guardians, or any other lawful cause, to my being married to ____ > > Mary Tyler of Alton Downs via Rockhampton > daughter of William Tyler of Alton Downs. > > SIGNATURE OF MAN: Cecil Louis Meyers. > > And I, the said Mary Tyler of Alton Downs > do on my oath declare _________ that I believe there is no > impediment or lawful objection, by any such reason or lawful cause as > aforesaid, to my > being married to the said Cecil Louis Meyers. > > SIGNATURE OF WOMAN: Mary Tyler. > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4823 - Release Date: 02/21/12 >

Hi there all, in 1927 my grandparents were married at St. Mary's RC church in Maryborough. I have inherited a photocopy of their original marriage certificate from the time, however along with that came a "Consent Form". I can understand that such a form may have been required for couples marrying when under the age of 21, however for my grandparents this was not the case. My grandfather was 21 and his wife-to-be was 24. The consent form seems to be a declaration under oath that there is no impediment to their marriage. There are a number of dubious circumstances surrounding the marriage. Firstly, my grandfather was arrested and charged with sleeping with an underage (at the time 16 y.o.) girl. The alleged offence occurred abt AUG 1926. In DEC 1926 he was arrested. For some reason the prosecution case collapsed, along with his trial in MAR 1927. This I can verify through Trove newspaper and Qld Police Gazette sources. Family legend has it that the girl that he slept with went on to have his child, and in a paternity suite, she was awarded 18 years of maintenance. I have no ability to verify this - any hints welcomed. Secondly, around the time of his arrest in DEC 1926, he already sleeping with another woman who became my grandmother. By the time they officially married in APR 1927 in Maryborough, she was already 4-5 months pregnant with their first child. Does anyone have more information about these Consent Forms, and why they may have to been required to sign them, based on the circumstances already mentioned? There are obvious possibilities ... but I would welcome any opinions - esp. the legal necessities of such forms. Thanks ... -- Stephen Nicholson (Wollongong) [Below is the transcript of the form] -------------- Transcript of Consent Form: SCHEDULE C, 28 VICTORIA No. 15. Declaration before Surrogate, District Registrar, or Minister. I, Cecil Louis Meyers of Longreach being duly sworn, do on my oath declare ____ (empty)____ that I believe there is no impediment or lawful objection by reason of any kindred relationship or alliance, or any former marriage, or the want of consent of Parents or Guardians, or any other lawful cause, to my being married to ____ Mary Tyler of Alton Downs via Rockhampton daughter of William Tyler of Alton Downs. SIGNATURE OF MAN: Cecil Louis Meyers. And I, the said Mary Tyler of Alton Downs do on my oath declare _________ that I believe there is no impediment or lawful objection, by any such reason or lawful cause as aforesaid, to my being married to the said Cecil Louis Meyers. SIGNATURE OF WOMAN: Mary Tyler.

It's worth re-considering that the NSW marriage index in 1931 has Sonia Wells marrying Reginald Wightman. Unlike the Qld marriage index which uses maiden name, the NSW index uses current surname. So it is possible that Wells is Sonia's previous married name. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: Graham Taylor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 8:48 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells Thanks Kerry 1936 is about the time Sonia WELLS appears on the radar. Where was she between 1898 and 1936?? Graham -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: 20 February 2012 05:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells >From the electoral rolls: 1936 Sonia Wightman living at 15 Calvert Street, Marrickville, home duties 1949 Sonia Wightman living at 46 Park Road, Burwood, home duties 1963 Sonia Wightman living at 3B Oxford street, Burwood, saleswoman 1980 Sonia Wightman living at 14/12 Sylvia Street, Rydalmere, -- The "--" occupation is often found on retired people, which would make sense as she would be 82 years old at this point. However, in all of the above, there was no other Wightman living with her. So there is nothing to connect these entries to Reginald. But on the other hand, there is only one Sonia Wightman turning up in the electoral rolls. The Ryerson Index has: WIGHTMAN Sonia Death notice 03MAY1987 Death 88 late of Rydalmere Sydney Morning Herald 07MAY1987 If she was born in late 1898, then she would be 88 in May 1987. Kerry Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again, Have you seen http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=MS19011130.2.41&l=mi&e=-------10--1----0-- It might give you an idea of how Fred spent his time.

Hi Karin, http://mostlyunsung.alphalink.com.au/mubooks.htm lists The Corps of Cattle Rangers : Boer War 1899-1902. Outline history and detailed alphabetical nominal roll of this highly irregular unit in the Boer War. Many Australians identified especially from Queensland. Neil Smith 2007. Card cover. *AUD 18. Could be worthwhile, if you haven't already seen it. Cheers

Hi Barbara, Thank you once again for all the links, I will have a look what I can find if any! I do have this book of Neil Smith 2007, thank you but I will look at some of the other book too. I have enjoyed the reading in the paperspast on the Cattle Rangers. It is so interesting while knowing what it is like in our country, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks again Barbara, enjoy a great day, Regards, Karin. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6901 (20120221) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Good day Barbara, Thank you for your kind reply to my request, I do appreciate you taking the time in helping me. You say the Boer War records are a bit sketchy, I think most of the records are? There were a number of Fred/Fredericks F and FE Smiths who served in the Boer War but the information are very limited. I do have a Frederick Smith's enlistment form for the BW, he was with the Cattle Rangers, service number 15. I believe the Cattle Rangers were from Australia? Unfortunately once again the information are very vague. The BW signature are very similar (even though thirteen years passed) to his WW1 enrolment form, complexion on both - 'fresh' Frederick's father was Alfred and on The Cattle Rangers form the father is mentioned as ?A Smith. I do have all Frederick's information regarding WW1, it is the Boer War and prior to that I am looking for. Hopefully I will find my needle in the haystack. Once again thank you for your help as well as the links, will see if I can find anything. Have a great day, Regards from SA, Karin. The Australian War Memorial - www.awm.gov.au - lists 6 x Frederick (various middle names) Smith, but no Ernest 3 x Ernest Smith; 1 x Ernest Edward Smith The Qld State Library of Qld has compiled a database of soldiers whose names appeared in the Queenslander newspaper, and there is a Frederick Edward Smith - http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/find/online/boerwar/database - but this soldier was invalided back to Australia. Unfortunately Boer War records here are a bit sketchy. Taking place before Federation and, therefore, centralised record keeping, State records must be used, and these also are somewhat sketchy. The AWM database has been compiled from state records, diaries, anything that can be found which has names in it. You might also have a look at http://members.pcug.org.au/~croe/ozb/oz_boer0.htm But, after 15 years, you have probably been there, done that. It is possible that Frederick Ernest Smith made his own way to South Africa and enlisted there and, since he didn't return here, might not show up on any Australia records. During WW1, the AIF didn't seemed too concerned about what name a soldier chose at enlistment. I imagine that it was no different during the Boer War, so you may not even be looking for a Mr Smith. Good luck finding your needle. Cheers Barbara. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6900 (20120220) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

The Australian War Memorial - www.awm.gov.au - lists 6 x Frederick (various middle names) Smith, but no Ernest 3 x Ernest Smith; 1 x Ernest Edward Smith The Qld State Library of Qld has compiled a database of soldiers whose names appeared in the Queenslander newspaper, and there is a Frederick Edward Smith - http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/find/online/boerwar/database - but this soldier was invalided back to Australia. Unfortunately Boer War records here are a bit sketchy. Taking place before Federation and, therefore, centralised record keeping, State records must be used, and these also are somewhat sketchy. The AWM database has been compiled from state records, diaries, anything that can be found which has names in it. You might also have a look at http://members.pcug.org.au/~croe/ozb/oz_boer0.htm But, after 15 years, you have probably been there, done that. It is possible that Frederick Ernest Smith made his own way to South Africa and enlisted there and, since he didn't return here, might not show up on any Australia records. During WW1, the AIF didn't seemed too concerned about what name a soldier chose at enlistment. I imagine that it was no different during the Boer War, so you may not even be looking for a Mr Smith. Good luck finding your needle. Cheers Barbara.

Also she may have married as Sonia Wells but was she born another name as happened a lot I agree order her marriage cert and it should help in your search. I use "Marilyn Rowan" a transcriber she is cheaper than the BDM Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells > When I was looking at births for WELLS in NSW, I found that a few of them > were registered at the TWEED RIVER, which is on the NSW/QLD border. > > Perhaps her birth was never registered, and why she said she was born in > QLD. I still think her wedding certificate, if you can obtain a copy, is > your best bet. > > Regards, > > Wynnette > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Taylor" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells > > >> Thanks Kerry >> >> 1936 is about the time Sonia WELLS appears on the radar. >> >> Where was she between 1898 and 1936?? >> >> Graham >> > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4820 - Release Date: 02/19/12 > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BBP is the abbreviation for Brisbane Baptisms.. if it is only BP alone... it is a Baptism outside of Brisbane. Cheers Laraine

hello If Reginald and Sonia separated do you think he would have been mentioned in her death notice Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells > Reginald and Sonia "separated"..................Sonia had another child > but > never remarried. I am not sure but I don't think Reg and Sonia actually > divorced. > > Graham > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Kerry Raymond > Sent: 20 February 2012 06:06 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Sonia Wells > > > > I looked up the newspaper in Google Archives and it says: > > WIGHTMAN, Sonia - May 3, 1987, at hospital, late of Rydalmere, wife of > Reginald (deceased) and loved mother of Patricia, Dawn, Warren and > families. > Aged 88 years. In God's care. Private cremated. > > > So if Reginald is deceased, the electoral rolls suggested he was deceased > by > 1936. > > Kerry > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message