According to a family tree on Ancestry, Dorothy Cartwright married John Callaghan on 24 Aug 1937 in Brisbane. But there is no information on Dorothy's parents so it might not be the right lady. But I think this article http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article63378470 points to the Brisbane-based couple as being the right ones. Mrs J. Callaghan of Brisbane visits Mrs W. Lyon of Ingham. Mildred Cartwright (Dorothy's sister) married Walter Lyon and the 1949 electoral roll has them living in Ingham. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2012 10:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] CARTWRIGHT Take a read of this. It looks like your family (Cartwright, Little, Callaghan) http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62806454 So I am guessing that the best man J. Callaghan went on to marry Dorothy Cartwright some time after May 1937. In this Aug 1938 article, there is mention of Mr and Mrs J Callaghan travelling from Cairns to attend the Cartwright-King wedding. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62166034 There are various references to a Mr and Mrs Callaghan of Babinda. And the electoral roll in 1949 has Dorothy Joyce and John Allan Callaghan in Babinda. The 1949 electoral roll also has a John and Dorothy Callaghan at Newstead, Brisbane. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret S Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2012 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] CARTWRIGHT Afternoon to all   I am hoping SKS will be able to help me please.   1.    I am looking for dod for Walter Cartwright. It would be after 1964 in Qld. His parents were John Walter  Cartwright and his mother Catherine Little and he was born 10/8/1907.   2.    Dorothy Cartwright married a chap ? Callaghan and it would have been after the 1934. Dorothy dob 21/3/1913 and dod 8/7/1997. As to where they lived I have no idea but Dorothy is buried in Brisbane.   Any help would be muchly appreciated.   Kind regards Marg. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Take a read of this. It looks like your family (Cartwright, Little, Callaghan) http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62806454 So I am guessing that the best man J. Callaghan went on to marry Dorothy Cartwright some time after May 1937. In this Aug 1938 article, there is mention of Mr and Mrs J Callaghan travelling from Cairns to attend the Cartwright-King wedding. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article62166034 There are various references to a Mr and Mrs Callaghan of Babinda. And the electoral roll in 1949 has Dorothy Joyce and John Allan Callaghan in Babinda. The 1949 electoral roll also has a John and Dorothy Callaghan at Newstead, Brisbane. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret S Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2012 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] CARTWRIGHT Afternoon to all   I am hoping SKS will be able to help me please.   1.    I am looking for dod for Walter Cartwright. It would be after 1964 in Qld. His parents were John Walter  Cartwright and his mother Catherine Little and he was born 10/8/1907.   2.    Dorothy Cartwright married a chap ? Callaghan and it would have been after the 1934. Dorothy dob 21/3/1913 and dod 8/7/1997. As to where they lived I have no idea but Dorothy is buried in Brisbane.   Any help would be muchly appreciated.   Kind regards Marg. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Greg, it gives me something to go on. Regards Pam From: "Greg Hay" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] PHOTOGRAPHIC STUDIO To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Hi Pam, Source: BARRIE, Sandy, 2002. "Australians Behind the Camera. Directory of Early Australian Photographers 1841 to 1945" p.2 Acme. 264 Murray St, Perth, WA 1934-35 Acme Photographers. 796 George St, Sydney, NSW 1894-95 Acme Studio. 308 Parramatta Rd, Petersham, NSW 1896 Acme Studio. Gympie, Qld, 1900's Acme Studios. Enmore, NSW, 1910's 138 George St, Sydney, NSW, 1910'S Hope this may be of some assistance to you. Kind regards, Greg Hay

In 1937 Cartwright, Dorothy, Ann St., Ingham, home duties Cartwright, Walter, Ingham, shop assistant Greg 1. I am looking for dod for Walter Cartwright. It would be after 1964 in Qld. His parents were John Walter Cartwright and his mother Catherine Little and he was born 10/8/1907. 2. Dorothy Cartwright married a chap ? Callaghan and it would have been after the 1934. Dorothy dob 21/3/1913 and dod 8/7/1997. As to where they lived I have no idea but Dorothy is buried in Brisbane. Any help would be muchly appreciated. Kind regards Marg. Please

Hi 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL has 3 Dorothy CALLAGHAN's Dorothy CALLAGHAN off West St. Macdonaldtown subdivistion of East Toowoomba Home duties NO one else living there.. Dorothy CALLAGHAN Ross St. Newstead sub div. Fortitude Valley Home duties John CALLAGHAN Ross St. Newstead Salesman Dotothy Joyce CALLAGHAN Babinda. sub Div Gordonvale Home duties Thomas Richard CALLAGHAN Babinda Labourer Richard CALLAGHAN Babinda Labourer John Allen CALLAGHAN Babinda Labourer Alice Rebecca CALLAGHAN Babinda Home duties Walter CARTWRIGHT Yorkies Knob Rd. Cairns Farmer Walter Charles Harold CARTWRIGHT Yorkies Knob Cairns Labourer Mary Helena CARTWRIGHT Yorkies Knob rd. Cairns Home duties Walter CARTWRIGHT Malanda Hotel Malanda .. Atherton .. Shop Assistant NO other Cartwright there John Walter CARTWRIGHT died 1924 ref 1924/C4381 Father John CARTWRIGHT Mother Harriett JEPSON there is a funeral notice of a Walter CARTWRIGHT in the Cairns Post 27-3-1952 he was from Yorkies Knob.he had at least one dau Ada who married a PASCOE ........ wife is Mary Helena...... Nov. 1952 has transfer of property..His father is James and Mother Emma Lyons so that discounts the ones on the 1949 roll cheers Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret S" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] CARTWRIGHT Afternoon to all I am hoping SKS will be able to help me please. 1. I am looking for dod for Walter Cartwright. It would be after 1964 in Qld. His parents were John Walter Cartwright and his mother Catherine Little and he was born 10/8/1907. 2. Dorothy Cartwright married a chap ? Callaghan and it would have been after the 1934. Dorothy dob 21/3/1913 and dod 8/7/1997. As to where they lived I have no idea but Dorothy is buried in Brisbane. Any help would be muchly appreciated. Kind regards Marg. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4874 - Release Date: 03/16/12

Afternoon to all   I am hoping SKS will be able to help me please.   1.    I am looking for dod for Walter Cartwright. It would be after 1964 in Qld. His parents were John Walter  Cartwright and his mother Catherine Little and he was born 10/8/1907.   2.    Dorothy Cartwright married a chap ? Callaghan and it would have been after the 1934. Dorothy dob 21/3/1913 and dod 8/7/1997. As to where they lived I have no idea but Dorothy is buried in Brisbane.   Any help would be muchly appreciated.   Kind regards Marg.

Estelle There has been index done for lots of Cemeteries and some like Toowong have a very helpful "Friends of Toowong Group" who are there at Weekends to help people locate graves. The Genealogical Society of Qld Inc has a set of cards for the Toowong Cemetery that indicates grave locations, the cards also indicate if a person is being buried with another person. The grave site is something the Funeral Director gets from the Council and this information is also on the copy of the Directors records and these records have also been filmed, indexed and available for sale from GSQ. Barbara BNE -----Original Message----- From: Estelle Daniels Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Burial register vs Death Certificate Hello Listers,Just following the discussion regarding the Lang Park burials and thinking a bit more on the topic of locating graves...I'm wonder why cemetery plot/niche wall numbers are not recorded on Death Certificates along with the name of the cemetery where the remains are interred? From my limited experience in this area, Burial Registers or cemetery maps - the only records of individuals' exact burial sites - as kept by Councils, Churches, etc seem to have had variable survival rates. If the plot co-ordinates relative to the cemetery of burial were briefly recorded by the undertaker on the Death Certificate at the time of burial, this would stand the test of time, as long as the death was registered. Even though the details given to the undertaker by relatives for entry on the Death Certificate can be questioned at times, the official and medical information is not subjective. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this...or is this information already recorded "! behind the scenes", and not published with a certificate? Estelle Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Just a quick note - larger laptops (and desktops) continue to have optical drives for reading and writing both CDs and DVDs, but smaller laptops, netbooks, ultrabooks, etc often do not. It is, however, relatively easy and affordable to purchase an external USB optical drive should you want a lightweight, ultraportable, small form factor laptop, but still require occasional access to CDs and DVDs. I very much agree with Kerry's earlier point, though, that uploading material to the web, where appropriate, is the preferable option. Cheers, Deb (Suddenly Sunny BrisVegas) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Crighton Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 9:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] proxy burial register for Paddington Cemetery (the old Brisbane General) but they do have DVD readers/ burners, which will accept CDs............................... On 15 March 2012 10:10, GE Burton <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand that new computers being sold to not have a CD drive. > > Gracie > Kiwifruit Country > New Zealand

but they do have DVD readers/ burners, which will accept CDs............................... On 15 March 2012 10:10, GE Burton <[email protected]> wrote: > I have found this discussion a very interesting read... > > I understand that new computers being sold to not have a CD drive. > > > Gracie > Kiwifruit Country > New Zealand > > > > <snip> > If the project involved a lot of volunteer effort to create a useful > community resource, trying to sell the information will limit its > accessibility to the very community that you sought to assist in the first > place. I appreciate the desire of the society to get some cash for other > projects, but realistically you probably won't earn much from CD sales > anyway. If you go with the WWW instead, you could add Google Advertising as > a way to make some money. > > I say all of this in the context of having made the same decisions around > our headstone photos. We chose to put them on the WWW for everyone to use > and not to try to make money from them. We saw it as "paying it forward" in > recognition of all the volunteer efforts to produce the family history > resources that we have accessed in our own research over the years. > > Kerry > > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have found this discussion a very interesting read... I understand that new computers being sold to not have a CD drive. Gracie Kiwifruit Country New Zealand <snip> If the project involved a lot of volunteer effort to create a useful community resource, trying to sell the information will limit its accessibility to the very community that you sought to assist in the first place. I appreciate the desire of the society to get some cash for other projects, but realistically you probably won't earn much from CD sales anyway. If you go with the WWW instead, you could add Google Advertising as a way to make some money. I say all of this in the context of having made the same decisions around our headstone photos. We chose to put them on the WWW for everyone to use and not to try to make money from them. We saw it as "paying it forward" in recognition of all the volunteer efforts to produce the family history resources that we have accessed in our own research over the years. Kerry Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"I say all of this in the context of having made the same decisions around our headstone photos. We chose to put them on the WWW for everyone to use and not to try to make money from them. We saw it as "paying it forward" in recognition of all the volunteer efforts to produce the family history resources that we have accessed in our own research over the years. Kerry" We need a LIKE button here .... Cheers Lynne

Sue Just a practical comment if you go down the CD route. Qld Family History Society has a program that I believe they make freely available to similar organisations for providing a fully searchable data base on a CD. It's called QFHSdatasearch and it's what they have used for their electoral rolls and some of their monumental inscriptions. Using that would save you a lot of work compared with developing your own. But unlike a monumental inscriptions project or an electoral roll project, your project doesn't have an obvious ending, the point at which you can say with confidence "OK, we've got all the data, time to go burn those CDs". No sooner than you burn those CDs, someone will discover some new list of burials that need to be included. If the project involved a lot of volunteer effort to create a useful community resource, trying to sell the information will limit its accessibility to the very community that you sought to assist in the first place. I appreciate the desire of the society to get some cash for other projects, but realistically you probably won't earn much from CD sales anyway. If you go with the WWW instead, you could add Google Advertising as a way to make some money. I say all of this in the context of having made the same decisions around our headstone photos. We chose to put them on the WWW for everyone to use and not to try to make money from them. We saw it as "paying it forward" in recognition of all the volunteer efforts to produce the family history resources that we have accessed in our own research over the years. Kerry

Kerry thanks for the excellent reply. Let's hope BDM records remain in the coming future with some developments as time goes on. Regards Colin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 7:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Burial register vs Death Certificate It's a nice idea but not quite as simple as it sounds ... The current generation of GPS are not accurate enough to precisely pinpoint a grave (although they will usually be within 1-3 metres of it, but maybe up to 10m). If the grave has a headstone, then a GPS accuracy of a few metres is close enough, but our problem graves are the ones without headstones or other markers. And if you walk to the GPS location and find yourself surrounded by a number of unmarked graves, a few metres of accuracy isn't good enough to tell you where you want to leave your flowers or put a plaque or do an exhumation. There are so-called precise positioning systems that can get you to within a few centimeters (which would be sufficient to distinguish between two adjacent graves) but these are currently very expensive and only purchased by people with strong commercial reasons, but of course the price may come down over the years (just as it did with the current generation of GPS). But at the moment they might be affordable to organisations like councils who run large cemeteries but perhaps not to individual undertakers or trustees of small cemeteries. Of course, accuracy within a couple of centimeters sounds fantastic, but that accuracy is only valid for a short time, because the tectonic plates of the Earth are also moving at a couple of centimeters a year, so after 100 years, you are back to having much less accurate measurement. Although I guess in 100 years time, the positioning devices will probably be able to incorporate continental drift adjustments and you'd enter the location AND the date at which that location was recorded so the current location could be correctly computed. The other problem is that the majority of people in Australia are cremated (at least in areas where it is available as an option). What location do we record? Where they were cremated? Where their ashes ended up? What if the family scattered them in 10 different locations? What if they are in an urn and moved from place to place? Whether or not the Registrar-General can be persuaded to record the location (at whatever level of precision) is an interesting question. While I agree that it is not clear whether BDM Certificates as we know them today will exist into the future, it is pretty clear that the governments are recording more information about us all the time, so I can't imagine they will stop wanting to record our births, deaths and marriages in some way. Of course, in the future, we might get our family history at the "touch of a button" because of all that government recording of information! Or, we might have stricter privacy laws that prevent us from being told anything about our family, living or dead. Perhaps the recording of BDMs in the future will include our DNA -- that would simplify family history! Kerry Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19460) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19460) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

It's a nice idea but not quite as simple as it sounds ... The current generation of GPS are not accurate enough to precisely pinpoint a grave (although they will usually be within 1-3 metres of it, but maybe up to 10m). If the grave has a headstone, then a GPS accuracy of a few metres is close enough, but our problem graves are the ones without headstones or other markers. And if you walk to the GPS location and find yourself surrounded by a number of unmarked graves, a few metres of accuracy isn't good enough to tell you where you want to leave your flowers or put a plaque or do an exhumation. There are so-called precise positioning systems that can get you to within a few centimeters (which would be sufficient to distinguish between two adjacent graves) but these are currently very expensive and only purchased by people with strong commercial reasons, but of course the price may come down over the years (just as it did with the current generation of GPS). But at the moment they might be affordable to organisations like councils who run large cemeteries but perhaps not to individual undertakers or trustees of small cemeteries. Of course, accuracy within a couple of centimeters sounds fantastic, but that accuracy is only valid for a short time, because the tectonic plates of the Earth are also moving at a couple of centimeters a year, so after 100 years, you are back to having much less accurate measurement. Although I guess in 100 years time, the positioning devices will probably be able to incorporate continental drift adjustments and you'd enter the location AND the date at which that location was recorded so the current location could be correctly computed. The other problem is that the majority of people in Australia are cremated (at least in areas where it is available as an option). What location do we record? Where they were cremated? Where their ashes ended up? What if the family scattered them in 10 different locations? What if they are in an urn and moved from place to place? Whether or not the Registrar-General can be persuaded to record the location (at whatever level of precision) is an interesting question. While I agree that it is not clear whether BDM Certificates as we know them today will exist into the future, it is pretty clear that the governments are recording more information about us all the time, so I can't imagine they will stop wanting to record our births, deaths and marriages in some way. Of course, in the future, we might get our family history at the "touch of a button" because of all that government recording of information! Or, we might have stricter privacy laws that prevent us from being told anything about our family, living or dead. Perhaps the recording of BDMs in the future will include our DNA -- that would simplify family history! Kerry

Hi Estelle, What a FANTASTIC idea!! as someone who works in the cemetery/ funeral industry it is something I have certainly never seen recorded. I know the Toowong Cemetery in Brisbane is laid out by measurement.. that is to say.. .grave size. Using the old imperial measurements a single grave is a 9ft Long by 5ft Wide. Most modern cemeteries use 8ft by 4ft so as to not waste space. Luckily cemetery maps in this case survive and so do the burial registers... I have seen other cemeteries that are not so lucky and thus the problems we all have locating our loved ones!! Perhaps this is a recommendation that needs to be made to the registrar general... for the sake of future family historians!! Although with the digital age... will we even have certificates anymore?? in say 50 years?? I would certainly say that people involved in smaller cemeteries could imbrace technology and record the GPS points of their graves when digitising their records.. with some 115,000 graves it would take a monumental effort to do Toowong Cemetery!! or those even larger like Rookwood in NSW.. YIKES!! Anyway, Thanks for the Fantastic suggestion.. ill be sure to bring it up at our next meeting and see what the response is! Cheers Sue. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Estelle Daniels <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Hello Listers,Just following the discussion regarding the Lang Park > burials and thinking a bit more on the topic of locating graves...I'm > wonder why cemetery plot/niche wall numbers are not recorded on Death > Certificates along with the name of the cemetery where the remains are > interred? From my limited experience in this area, Burial Registers or > cemetery maps - the only records of individuals' exact burial sites - as > kept by Councils, Churches, etc seem to have had variable survival rates. > If the plot co-ordinates relative to the cemetery of burial were briefly > recorded by the undertaker on the Death Certificate at the time of burial, > this would stand the test of time, as long as the death was registered. > Even though the details given to the undertaker by relatives for entry on > the Death Certificate can be questioned at times, the official and medical > information is not subjective. Does anyone else have any thoughts on > this...or is this information already recorded "! > behind the scenes", and not published with a certificate? Estelle > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers,Just following the discussion regarding the Lang Park burials and thinking a bit more on the topic of locating graves...I'm wonder why cemetery plot/niche wall numbers are not recorded on Death Certificates along with the name of the cemetery where the remains are interred? From my limited experience in this area, Burial Registers or cemetery maps - the only records of individuals' exact burial sites - as kept by Councils, Churches, etc seem to have had variable survival rates. If the plot co-ordinates relative to the cemetery of burial were briefly recorded by the undertaker on the Death Certificate at the time of burial, this would stand the test of time, as long as the death was registered. Even though the details given to the undertaker by relatives for entry on the Death Certificate can be questioned at times, the official and medical information is not subjective. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this...or is this information already recorded "behind the scenes", and not published with a certificate? Estelle

Hi Kerry, That is a thought certainly. However the small not for profit group releasing the CD was hoping to make a few dollars from each copy to put towards other projects that we are working on... As we all know money is a little hard to come by for historical groups. The other option would be a subscription based search program similar to ancestry... we are a ways off yet anyhow.. will keep it in mind.. whats everyone else think?? Cheers Sue. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]>wrote: > Can I suggest putting it on the WWW rather than on a CD? > > > > The WWW is accessible to more people than a CD would be. And with the WWW > you can put up whatever information you already have and update it > progressively as new information comes to hand. With a CD there is no easy > way to publish updates. > > > > Kerry > > > >

I don't mean to be picky either but Oxley and West End are both on the south side of the Brisbane River. The river takes many twists and turns over a relatively short distance as the crow flies, which may cause confusion. Cheers Jocelyn On 13/03/2012 7:32 PM, Greg wrote: > Don't mean to be picky, you are right in what you say, > > Yes, Oxley is a couple of suburbs away from Sinnamon Park. > > but it was the Division of Oxley which covers a much larger area and in > fact he was living in Vulture Street, West End, which is on the other > side of the river, > >

Can I suggest putting it on the WWW rather than on a CD? The WWW is accessible to more people than a CD would be. And with the WWW you can put up whatever information you already have and update it progressively as new information comes to hand. With a CD there is no easy way to publish updates. Kerry _____ From: Sue [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:42 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Thomas Henry chambers Kerry, we have all of the information you suggested :)) as I said earlier I have been working on this for a long time now and have a extensive list of those thought to be buried in each of the seven milton/ paddington cemeteries aka Lang Park. I am also good friends with the archaeologist who led the excavation of more than 300 graves when the latest development would have destroyed them in the foundation piling for the new stadium, the remains discovered were interred in the Toowong cemetery and a memorial plaque put in place. It is hoped that with grant funding we will be able to finish our project by confirming with the death certificate those that we have remaining on our list. The informaion would then be published on a searchable CD. cheers Sue Sent from my iPhone On 14/03/2012, at 8:37 AM, "Kerry Raymond" <[email protected]> wrote: Barbara is right that there was a list created when they were trying to relocate the graves, but it's far from complete. The original cemetery was not run by just one organisation, but by a number of different church groups, who didn't appear to keep particularly good records, so even 100 years ago they didn't have a very clear idea of who had been buried there. Possibly of interest to this conversation is this document at Qld State Archives: http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/SeriesDetails.aspx?SeriesId=1886 1 which is described as: This series consists of Brisbane General Cemetery (Toowong Cemetery), Brookfield, Moggill and Lang Park portion plans showing the position of burial plots. Each plan contains a portion number and plot numbers. The Lang Park plan includes names of deceased. I believe that some family history societies may have compiled lists of people known to be buried at Lang Park based on whatever information was available, which might include the information gathered back when they were trying to relocate the graves, as well as death certificates and funeral notices obtained through the research of their members. Kerry

Hi List I've just downloaded my first QLD Digest and am blown away! Firstly, thank you *so* much, Greg and Stan for taking the time to help!! I can't thank you enough! And thanks, Kerry, for the heads up about Sinnamon Park. The other thing which has blown me away is the fact that, having been searching for so long, it turns out that my gt-gt-grandparents are buried in Toowong Cemetery which I've passed - and noticed - so many times, completely unaware of the connection. (How sad to see that Levi jnr died so soon after their emigration, though. It must have been a devastating blow'to the family!) I've just told my (91-yr-old) mother this news. She said that her father (d 1962) talked of relatives "in Brisbane", and even visited them, but he never specified who they were: ie his grandparents, aunts and cousins! My next visit to Brisbane can't come soon enough (!!!) but meanwhile I'm off to search "Trove" and the QLD BMDs online. Thank you again for your help! Fantastic!! :-)) Blanche Blanche Charles Wellington-Kapiti Coast New Zealand Cornwall Online Parish Clerk: St Allen, St Newlyn East, Perranzabuloe,Withiel http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blanchec/index.htm Cornwall Online Parish Clerks http://www.cornwall-opc.org/