Hello all, Can I just run this fellow's history past you as I know it? Name: James Farrell/Joseph Farrall and combinations thereof Born: probably Newry, County Down, Ireland, about 1822 Sentenced at Londonderry 4 Aug 1835, larceny, aged 13 (Query: why would a 13 yr old be on the loose in Londonderry?) Departed Cork 9 Jan 1836 on Surr(e)y 1 (9) Arr PJ 17 May 1836 So he's now about 14 years old. Where does he go? Pardon: I have a newspaper record from The Sydney Gazette of 25 June 1836 In an advertisement dated Sydney, 13th June, 1836 from His Excellency the Governor (Alexander McLeay) in a despatch, dated 31st Jan. 1836, No. 101, giving an Absolute Pardon to "Farrell James, Surry", see http://tinyurl.com/nh79y25 Another report would suggest: Absolute Pardon 25 Jun 1839 I also believe he got into trouble again: 16 Aug 1839: Sydney Gaol. (about 17 years old) Trial. 11 Jan 1840:Acquitted. 6 May 1840: Maitland Bench. 3 years for larceny. To iron'd gang He's now only 18 years old. (But I'm sorry but I've lost the sources for these). I have corresponded here on this young man before. The thread is here: http://tinyurl.com/o8ld3xr What I am asking is these: How can I find out what happened to him after his sentence on 6 May 1840, at Maitland? He would have been freed I guess in 1843. There's a NSW death record in 1842 - no index details. Was it normal to grant a Pardon dated 31 Jan 1836 (22 days after he left Cork) and some 3 months before he arrived in PJ? Where does the pardon in 1839 fit? If I am the right track his sister arrived (assisted) in the area as married to Patrick Logan in January 1844. It's a rather tentative link, I know. I'm sorry if I've wasted people's time but at least the exercise has suggested to me that there's no further I can go. But if anything pops out, please let me know! Regards Bryan Chch, NZ

Bryan, Looking at the old thread I think you need to go back to your Catherine. Was she sponsored to come out? I would look at the Immigration Deposit Journals to see if you someone helped pay her passage (usually a relative). Also check the shipping records as they may list "relatives in the colony". I believe immigration is outside the scope of this list but I hope this gives you some new ideas. Lisa On 30/05/2013, at 15:37, "Bryan" <bryannp@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > Hello all, > > Can I just run this fellow's history past you as I know it? > > Name: James Farrell/Joseph Farrall and combinations thereof > Born: probably Newry, County Down, Ireland, about 1822 > Sentenced at Londonderry 4 Aug 1835, larceny, aged 13 > (Query: why would a 13 yr old be on the loose in Londonderry?) > Departed Cork 9 Jan 1836 on Surr(e)y 1 (9) > Arr PJ 17 May 1836 > > So he's now about 14 years old. Where does he go? > > Pardon: I have a newspaper record from The Sydney Gazette of 25 June 1836 > In an advertisement dated Sydney, 13th June, 1836 from His Excellency the > Governor (Alexander McLeay) in a despatch, dated 31st Jan. 1836, No. 101, > giving an Absolute Pardon to "Farrell James, Surry", see > http://tinyurl.com/nh79y25 > Another report would suggest: Absolute Pardon 25 Jun 1839 > > I also believe he got into trouble again: > 16 Aug 1839: Sydney Gaol. (about 17 years old) > Trial. 11 Jan 1840:Acquitted. > 6 May 1840: Maitland Bench. 3 years for larceny. To iron'd gang > He's now only 18 years old. > (But I'm sorry but I've lost the sources for these). > > I have corresponded here on this young man before. > The thread is here: http://tinyurl.com/o8ld3xr > > What I am asking is these: > > How can I find out what happened to him after his sentence on 6 May 1840, at > Maitland? He would have been freed I guess in 1843. There's a NSW death > record in 1842 - no index details. > Was it normal to grant a Pardon dated 31 Jan 1836 (22 days after he left > Cork) and some 3 months before he arrived in PJ? > Where does the pardon in 1839 fit? > If I am the right track his sister arrived (assisted) in the area as married > to Patrick Logan in January 1844. It's a rather tentative link, I know. > I'm sorry if I've wasted people's time but at least the exercise has > suggested to me that there's no further I can go. > > But if anything pops out, please let me know! > > Regards > Bryan > Chch, NZ > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message