Hi Hec, When he married Catherine McNamara in 1837 and if he was the convict who arrived per the Morley in 1828, there was no requirement for him to apply for permission to marry as he had already served his 7 year sentence by that date. There will be no reference on his marriage details or his death certificate Yes, Agnes Paterson per Buffalo was granted approval to marry William Allcock per Morley but it appears as though that marriage did not eventuate. In 1835 and again in 1844 she applied to marry other men - and she eventually married in 1844 to John Cockcroft (or Cobcroft as noted in the BDMs). I should point out that William did not require permission to marry in 1834 either as he was free by 30 July 1834 and permission was granted in October 1834... it was Agnes doing the requesting. Just because they applied to marry through the Rev. Samuel Marsden does not mean that he was not a Catholic - although just checking the Indent it is noted that he was a Protestant. As regards being illiterate and being able to afford his passage to Australia - well, yes, there were many thousands who arrived free who were unable to either read or write. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 22/05/2013 10:47 AM, Hec Alcock wrote: > Hi List, > > I am still trying to prove which William Alcock/Allcock is my 2GGF > > > > A few years back we thought he was the William that came on the Morley, in > fact he may well be. > > > > The facts that I know from docs I have sighted are: > > > > Place of Birth: Staffordshire, England > > Date: abt 18011 > > Arrived in Aust: abt 1827 1 > > Married: Catherine McNamara. St Mary's, Roman Catholic Church in Sydney 9th > Nov 1837 > > > > There is no reference on his marriage or death cert to indicate he was a > convict. > > He was a labourer and illiterate (His mark was made on some docs), Would an > illiterate person be able to afford passage if not at His Majesty's > pleasure? > > > > #1 These dates are derived from his Death Cert. > > > > > > > > The William from Morley(4) has similar details re age and place of birth, > with the exception he married Agnes Patterson (Buffalo) 2 > > In 1834 and he was protestant. > > > > I can find no reference to the above William or Agnes. Did Agnes die and he > remarried Catherine? > > > > #2 from the register of convicts application to marry. > > > > > > Hoping someone can help me to finally knock down this brickwall > > > > Cheers > > Hec > > >