Hi Karen You just might find more information on the AJCP reels for the PRO Admiralty Class 108 - Transport Department Records. I note the Lord Melville departed in Sept 1816. For 1816 the reels to look through are Reels 4401/02 which covers Piece 26 and Piece 27. You can appreciate what Class and Piece means by thinking of a Class is like a book and a Piece is like a chapter. I would look at Reel 4402 first. For one of my convict ancestors I found English correspondence about the loading of convicts and the permission and loading of wives and children (all named). A death on board may be recorded in the ship's log or the surgeon's journal. There is a book "Log of Logs" by Ian Nicholson that should tell you if a log exists for the Lord Melville 1816/7. For surgeon's journals (selected range) of convict ships you may find a copy for the Lord Melville on AJCP reel 3201 which covers Admiralty Class 101 Medical Departments, Registers, Medical Journals, Piece 44. The content of these handwritten journals can range from just statistics to very good reports detailing who got sick and who died. I dont know where you live but each State Library should have these reels and your local public library should be able to obtain them on Interlibrary Loan. cheers Grahame On 28/02/2009, at 8:33 AM, Karen Hodges wrote: > Hi Russell and list > > Thanks for your help. Unfortunately her marriage record to Joe doesn't > state her martial status so she may or may not have been born a Gager. > > I am going through my research notes verifying what I have. I know > others have recorded she was a widow when she arrived and that is why > she brought her children with her. I thought I had a copy of the > shipping record but I don't. Just some notes on the ship and on Mary. > Amongst the notes I have written > Lord Melville page 183 Mary Bevatt 4 children. Can someone confirm > that Mary was listed with 4 children? 3 did marry in Australia but one > is missing called Sarah. Some have suggested she may have died on the > voyage but wouldn't this be recorded somewhere? > > The fact that her children came out with her, did this require any > paper work? Or if children were allow to come out with female convicts > was this restricted to say women who were widowed, single parents? > > I do have noted in 1822 land and stock muster of NSW that her > occupation is Single. Does single confirm she was a widow or could it > mean her Husband may still be alive; just not in Australia? > > Thank you > > Karen > > > Karen > >> No, the marital status was not recorded in the indent records. I have >> info that her previous surname was Gager and that her maiden name may >> have been Medcalf; i.e. she was married twice. >> >> Russell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Graham Thank you very much for the suggestions on where to look. Karen On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Grahame & Rosslyn Thom <grthom@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Karen > > You just might find more information on the AJCP reels for the PRO > Admiralty Class 108 - Transport Department Records.  I note the Lord > Melville departed in Sept 1816.  For 1816 the reels to look through > are Reels 4401/02 which covers Piece 26 and Piece 27.  You can > appreciate what Class and Piece means by thinking of a Class is like > a book and a Piece is like a chapter.  I would look at Reel 4402 first. > > For one of my convict ancestors I found English correspondence about > the loading of convicts and the permission and loading of wives and > children (all named). > > A death on board may be recorded in the ship's log or the surgeon's > journal.  There is a book "Log of Logs" by Ian Nicholson that should > tell you if a log exists for the Lord Melville 1816/7.  For surgeon's > journals (selected range) of convict ships you may find a copy for > the Lord Melville on AJCP reel 3201 which covers Admiralty Class 101 > Medical Departments, Registers, Medical Journals, Piece 44.  The > content of these handwritten journals can range from just statistics > to very good reports detailing who got sick and who died. > > I dont know where you live but each State Library should have these > reels and your local public library should be able to obtain them on > Interlibrary Loan. > > cheers > > Grahame > > > On 28/02/2009, at 8:33 AM, Karen Hodges wrote: > >> Hi Russell and list >> >> Thanks for your help. Unfortunately her marriage record to Joe doesn't >> state her martial status so she may or may not have been born a Gager. >> >> I am going through my research notes verifying what I have. I know >> others have recorded she was a widow when she arrived and that is why >> she brought her children with her. I thought I had a copy of the >> shipping record but I don't. Just some notes on the ship and on Mary. >> Amongst the notes I have written >> Lord Melville page 183 Mary Bevatt 4 children. Can someone confirm >> that Mary was listed with 4 children? 3 did marry in Australia but one >> is missing called Sarah. Some have suggested she may have died on the >> voyage but wouldn't this be recorded somewhere? >> >> The fact that her children came out with her, did this require any >> paper work? Or if children were allow to come out with female convicts >> was this restricted to say women who were widowed, single parents? >> >>  I do have noted in 1822 land and stock muster of NSW that her >> occupation is Single.  Does single confirm she was a widow or could it >> mean her Husband may still be alive; just not in Australia? >> >> Thank you >> >> Karen >> >> >> Karen >> >>> No, the marital status was not recorded in the indent records. I have >>> info that her previous surname was Gager and that her maiden name may >>> have been Medcalf; i.e. she was married twice. >>> >>> Russell >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- >> JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >