Hi Lesley, Thanks for the suggestion. There is an obituary for Isaac, which I haven't read yet, but will chase up at library or buy the CD - cannot find anything on the NLA site. I also can't find when and where John Lisson/Gorrick died. I think he ran hotels in Sydney in the 1830s and may have been a butcher in the 1850s. (Sydney Gazette entries) John married Sarah Yeomans and had 5 children. Louisa 1830; Napoleon William 1832; William Oliver George 1835; Charles Augustus 1838 and John Hector 1845. When the first two were born he used the name Lisson, then Gorrick for the last three. In both the newspaper reports and the childrens birth there is a gap between 1840 and 1845. Regards, Natalie ---- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > Hi Natalie > > > Was there no Obituary in any of the newspapers (eg Maitland Mercury) when > he > died in 1899 ? > > > regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of I Baig > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:37 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > > Hello everyone, does anyone know if Isaac (used in Australian references) > or > John (used in English references) Gorrick, the heavy weight boxer aka The > Bungaree - who was the first Australian boxer to fight in England in > 1842 - > is in any way connected to Isaac Gorrick (1791 Atlantic), Thomas Lisson > (1792 Royal Admiral) and Ann Bradwell (Experiment 1804). > > As some of you may know Ann Bradwell had children with both Thomas Lisson > and Isaac Gorrick, and the Lisson children often took the name Gorrick, > including John and Isaac jr. > > It seems to me too much of a coincidence that the boxer is not connected > in > some way (- but I may be totally wrong about this.) He may be someone who > knew the family and took the name - Bungaree may also have been borrowed > from the name of the aboriginal Bungaree who accompanied Matthew Flinders > and Philip King on their explorations or from the town of that name. > > I would appreciate any information or suggestions. I have contacted a > couple > of boxing experts but without any luck so far. > > Regards, Natalie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John was the son of Thomas and Ann, b 1808 Hawkesbury John Hector Lisson GORRICK married Jane Underwood 1866 William George Oliver Leeson GORRICK married Sarah May Cooper 23 Mar 1860 Ulladulla, she a grandchild of Robert Cooper of Juniper Hall William's daughter Emma Marguerite GORRICK married Napolean Jean LISSON her cousin, son of John Hector Lisson GORRICK I don't have a death of John Lisson/Gorrick Cathy Dunn -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of I Baig Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 10:30 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick Hi Lesley, Thanks for the suggestion. There is an obituary for Isaac, which I haven't read yet, but will chase up at library or buy the CD - cannot find anything on the NLA site. I also can't find when and where John Lisson/Gorrick died. I think he ran hotels in Sydney in the 1830s and may have been a butcher in the 1850s. (Sydney Gazette entries) John married Sarah Yeomans and had 5 children. Louisa 1830; Napoleon William 1832; William Oliver George 1835; Charles Augustus 1838 and John Hector 1845. When the first two were born he used the name Lisson, then Gorrick for the last three. In both the newspaper reports and the childrens birth there is a gap between 1840 and 1845. Regards, Natalie ---- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > Hi Natalie > > > Was there no Obituary in any of the newspapers (eg Maitland Mercury) when > he > died in 1899 ? > > > regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of I Baig > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:37 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > > Hello everyone, does anyone know if Isaac (used in Australian references) > or > John (used in English references) Gorrick, the heavy weight boxer aka The > Bungaree - who was the first Australian boxer to fight in England in > 1842 - > is in any way connected to Isaac Gorrick (1791 Atlantic), Thomas Lisson > (1792 Royal Admiral) and Ann Bradwell (Experiment 1804). > > As some of you may know Ann Bradwell had children with both Thomas Lisson > and Isaac Gorrick, and the Lisson children often took the name Gorrick, > including John and Isaac jr. > > It seems to me too much of a coincidence that the boxer is not connected > in > some way (- but I may be totally wrong about this.) He may be someone who > knew the family and took the name - Bungaree may also have been borrowed > from the name of the aboriginal Bungaree who accompanied Matthew Flinders > and Philip King on their explorations or from the town of that name. > > I would appreciate any information or suggestions. I have contacted a > couple > of boxing experts but without any luck so far. > > Regards, Natalie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks very much Cathy. Maybe John was in another state or country when he died. Regards,Natalie ----- Original Message ----- From: "South Coast Promotions" <office@scpromotions.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > John was the son of Thomas and Ann, b 1808 Hawkesbury > John Hector Lisson GORRICK married Jane Underwood 1866 > William George Oliver Leeson GORRICK married Sarah May Cooper 23 Mar 1860 > Ulladulla, she a grandchild of Robert Cooper of Juniper Hall > > William's daughter Emma Marguerite GORRICK married Napolean Jean LISSON > her > cousin, son of John Hector Lisson GORRICK > > I don't have a death of John Lisson/Gorrick > > > Cathy Dunn > > >