Hello Frank Thank you so much for the informative information re. Fr Therry's Papers. Sometime last year I did go to the Mitchell and asked at the far end of the reading room for the Fr Therry Papers. I was given a reel however there was no evidence of the marriage around 1824. I had no idea that there are many reels. I will high tail it into the Mitchell this week and along with your instructions knee high I WILL find the marriage Many thanks for a wonderful slice of hope Jenny Frank wrote> As one, among others, who has been subjected to "the experience" at the door to RC Archives, I doubt if the Government is the reason for Catholic Church records not being available to Jenny. As for "Fr Therry's papers", I examined the records of the marriages conducted by the various priests, incl Fr Therry, on Reel SAG 6 (St Mary's records) at Mitchell Library (and SAG itself). The witnesses and the 1829 date of my g.g.grandparents' 1830 marriage were suspect so I examined the Mitchell Library Reels of Fr Therrys papers. I am not sure if you have looked at these...extensive bits of loose paper, back of envelopes, etc, in very rough date order with Fr Therry's notations about BDM, church affairs, donations to the building fund, building accounts etc. There I found, in Fr Therry's hand a correct record of the marriage, date, location, occupation of the groom, and witnesses. (Reel CY806) Furthermore the 1835 marriage record of another forbear was shown in NSW BDM records as in "C of E Cabramatta". I found the correct record on one of Fr Therry's scraps of paper as having occurred in St Mary's, Sydney with dates , location, witnesses and a "promise" to pay a fee. The folder outlining the many Therry reels is on the shelf, knee height, at the far end of the Mitchell reading room. But ask at the desk if you can't see it. Frank M.