An interesting observation Lesley. I dont know the ins and outs, but as I understand in Australia under Commonwealth law any organisation that makes a publication widely available, is required by law in submit a copy to NLA (and by State legislation to the State Library). This is easy when it is in hard copy but for the internet I am unsure. One would expect the relevant Act has been updated to cover internet material put up on a registered Australian URL. As its impractical to collect the lot the Act probably allows NLA to be selective. I doubt "permission" is required, but depends on co- operation between NLA and web site "owner". I am sure its explained on the PANDORA site. I would imagine under Australian law if someone publishes material on a CD or DVD and makes them available to the public then a copy should be sent to NLA (and appropriate State Library). I would expect the USA to have a similar law (and State laws) and that law would apply to rootsweb whatever it provides. But what happens when things cross borders???? Another observation is that all material on the internet is generally available world wide whether free or fee. So how can copying be stopped. Yes there are copyright laws but???? Its a big world of information regards Grahame On 07/03/2009, at 8:39 PM, Lesley Uebel wrote: > Hi Grahame > > I do hope that they ask for permission before they archive anything > they find on > the internet. > > Rootsweb do not allow their lists to be archived by anyone other > than Rootsweb > > Regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html >

Hi Grahame Each State and Territory has its own laws as regards legal deposits although a copy of any book - (A work can be a book, a periodical such as a newsletter or annual report, a newspaper, a piece of sheet music, map, plan, chart, table, program, catalogue, brochure or pamphlet.) produced has to be deposited with the National Library of Australia. As I live in NSW I had to provide 5 free copies of a book I produced a few years ago to various libraries and that included one to the NLA. The NLA does not, at this stage, require a copy of any CD or DVD produced although some States do have that requirement. I went through all of this years ago with the State Government here in NSW. It is something that everyone should be aware of when publishing a 'printed book' as it adds greatly to the expense. On the other hand if one publishes something using a CD only, then they have the problem of people copying and distributing it to their friends...... which many people do unfortunately. Legal Deposit web site http://www.nla.gov.au/services/ldeposit.html Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Grahame & Rosslyn Thom Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:21 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] Time travel - recording An interesting observation Lesley. I dont know the ins and outs, but as I understand in Australia under Commonwealth law any organisation that makes a publication widely available, is required by law in submit a copy to NLA (and by State legislation to the State Library). This is easy when it is in hard copy but for the internet I am unsure. One would expect the relevant Act has been updated to cover internet material put up on a registered Australian URL. As its impractical to collect the lot the Act probably allows NLA to be selective. I doubt "permission" is required, but depends on co- operation between NLA and web site "owner". I am sure its explained on the PANDORA site. I would imagine under Australian law if someone publishes material on a CD or DVD and makes them available to the public then a copy should be sent to NLA (and appropriate State Library). I would expect the USA to have a similar law (and State laws) and that law would apply to rootsweb whatever it provides. But what happens when things cross borders???? Another observation is that all material on the internet is generally available world wide whether free or fee. So how can copying be stopped. Yes there are copyright laws but???? Its a big world of information regards Grahame

Its simple in the ACT Lesley - I only had to deposit one copy - a minimal cost. Family historians should look upon this process as a plus because its a way of ensuring long term retention of your efforts in writing up your research. Grahame On 08/03/2009, at 10:05 AM, Lesley Uebel wrote: > Hi Grahame > > Each State and Territory has its own laws as regards legal deposits > although a > copy of any book - (A work can be a book, a periodical such as a > newsletter or > annual report, a newspaper, a piece of sheet music, map, plan, > chart, table, > program, catalogue, brochure or pamphlet.) produced has to be > deposited with > the National Library of Australia. > > As I live in NSW I had to provide 5 free copies of a book I > produced a few years > ago to various libraries and that included one to the NLA. The NLA > does not, at > this stage, require a copy of any CD or DVD produced although some > States do > have that requirement. I went through all of this years ago with > the State > Government here in NSW. > > It is something that everyone should be aware of when publishing a > 'printed > book' as it adds greatly to the expense. On the other hand if one > publishes > something using a CD only, then they have the problem of people > copying and > distributing it to their friends...... which many people do > unfortunately. > > Legal Deposit web site > > http://www.nla.gov.au/services/ldeposit.html > > > Lesley Uebel >

Hi List and Leslie, Does anyone have any information on a Joseph Finch who was in the Hunter District in 1840 - 1841? He applied for permission to marry Sarah Carroll in Nov 1841 but for some reason the marriage did not happen. There is a BDM record of Joseph Finch marrying Elizabeth Gronow in 1842 in the Maitland - Hunter district. These could be the same Joseph Finch. Any information would be appreciated. Cheers, John Caling Currimundi, Qld.

Hi John It is just as well that one of them decided not to go through with that marriage :)) My records show that Sarah's first marriage permission request was in November 1840 and not November 1841 - it was in September 1841 that she applied to marry your Henry. John, are you aware that you still have your old email address attached to your Copas claims.... unless it is still current ? regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John Caling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:19 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] Joseph Finch Hi List and Leslie, Does anyone have any information on a Joseph Finch who was in the Hunter District in 1840 - 1841? He applied for permission to marry Sarah Carroll in Nov 1841 but for some reason the marriage did not happen. There is a BDM record of Joseph Finch marrying Elizabeth Gronow in 1842 in the Maitland - Hunter district. These could be the same Joseph Finch. Any information would be appreciated. Cheers, John Caling Currimundi, Qld.