Hi Lorraine, My answer yesterday stated that George and William Morgan did not arrive as convicts on the "Albemarle" Your question to the PJ list was as follows: Can anyone help me with some info on GEORGE MORGAN arrived 1791 on "ALBEMARLE" or WILLIAM MORGAN also arrived on the "Albemarle". Both convicts ??? Your question with the ???? marks implied (well, to me anyway) that you were not sure but I answered the question as posed. Before I answered I did check the Indent for the "Albemarle" and as I know that the indents in that time frame listed many who did not actually embark or were replaced by others and not noted on the Indent and some arrived on a different transport I did check every Muster available and unless I missed one no convict named Morgan ever arrived on the "Albemarle". As your question was quite specific I didn't list the convicts with the same names who arrived in the time frame although I could have. I cannot find on that Queensland web site a Morgan convict who arrived on the "Albemarle" although it does include a William Morgan who arrived on ONE of the following transports - Active, Albermarle, Atlantic, Barrington, Britannia, Mary Ann, Matilda, Salamander and William and Mary - this web site obviously has not worked out, as yet, which convict arrived on which transport. The Indent for the "Admiral Barrington" named just the "Barrington" on the Queensland web site has a William Morgan but I cannot find him on any Muster so he possibly did not embark. That web site also states that a transport "William and Mary" arrived in 1791 but it was named "William and Ann" OK, now onto the research done by your grandfather in the 1950's and you state: "" George Morgan (came free) aged 15yrs, Profession Brickmaker arrived Oct 1791 on the "Albemarle" the same ship that carried his prospective father-in-law the convict Edward Collins and his wife Elizabeth who gave birth to the daughter Ann Collins in the waters off Sydney hds. George and Ann were married ? 1806/7 ( no record found to date). Ann was 16yrs and George 30yrs ( they had 15 children)"" I don't know what was available in the 1950's as I only started researching in about 1980, but could it be that he may have made that up for want of not knowing on which ship George arrived ? The Indents for the "Minorca" and "Canada" transports that arrived in 1801 were combined as both arrived the same day. A William and a George Morgan arrived on these transports. I don't subscribe to Ancestry ( huge American company) so cannot comment on them stating that William and George arriving on the "Albemarle" but as you also give the years 1796 & 1797 and that the "Albemarle" arrived in 1791 they possibly have it wrong. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Paul,Lorraine,Des Heuston Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:42 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com; aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] George Morgan convict Re George Morgan & William Morgan. Thankyou for your response. Lesley & Lyn. I do know there were many persons by these names who came to Australia. My grandfather had researched them back in the 1950's and his notes showed a reference to; George Morgan (came free) aged 15yrs ,Profession Brickmaker arrived Oct 1791 on the "Albemarle" the same ship that carried his prospective father-in-law the convict Edward Collins and his wife Elizabeth who gave birth to the daughter Ann Collins in the waters off Sydney hds. George and Ann were married ? 1806/7 ( no record found to date). Ann was 16yrs and George 30yrs ( they had 15 children) We do have copies of their death certs. ( Ancestry docs re Australian Convict Transportation 1791-1868 ref HO11/1 shows both William and George Morgan as convicts 7yrs terms 1796&1797 ship Albemarle) Also reference to both William and George on the QLD site. Further research showed a George Morgan convict arrived the Canada Dec 1801 also Brickmaker and it is this G. Morgan that has been accepted in the families history. My problem is that records pop up with reference to "William Morgan" and we haven't yet been able to find parents for the George Morgan's !!! Hence I am ever doubtful and still searching for answers. I have been researching for well over 30yrs myself and am currently helping with the updating of our Family's Story " A Colonial Brickmakers Family" . Any further help would be gratefully received . Lorraine from Sth Western Sydney.

Hi Lesley, Apologies twice, firstly because of the delay in answering . I have been unwell and not doing much family history. Second , I do appreciate your help in finding information about my ancestors. My grandfathers efforts in tracing backwards through the years was thoroughly investigated. George Morgan ,Convict was accepted due to the information he (grandfather) found back then. As your site has proven, the data available now, prompted me to ask about some of the still unanswered questions. Thankyou again for your help, its very much appreciated Lorraine, from Sth Western Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] George Morgan convict