John, it seems to me that the history and the fate of the Sydney region Aboriginals is intertwined with that of the Port Jackson convicts. Down my own First Fleet line (two black men) there were many marriages both formal and informal into the aboriginal community. These are clearly documented in: "The Parramatta Native Institution and the Black Town: A History" Brook, J and Kohen, J l, ISBN 086840 284 2 and "The Darug and their neighbours : the traditional Aboriginal owners of the Sydney region" by James Kohen, 1993. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, John Caling <jcaling@bigpond.com> wrote: > I believe this list relates to Port Jackson convicts, not Port Jackson or > Fraser Island aboriginals. Nor is it the correct forum to vent personal > views on aboriginals unless they were convicts held in Port Jackson. > > I for one do not appreciate the inappropriate views expressed in this > thread. > > Lesley ??? > > John Caling > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brett > Hadden > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:49 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] A man in a thousand. > > They were the Purist of all on Fraser Island...then they fed them Alcohol & > Killed them! > BH > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray > Fairall > Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 7:37 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] A man in a thousand. > > The Aboriginals of the greater Sydney region probably had a more nutritious > and varied diet than most in Europe at the time. Studies in the Northern > Territory in the 1930's showed that the Aboriginals there were healthier, > happier and better fed than the average member of the English Working > class. > > The culture of the local tribes which had been sustained since the seas > rose > to their present heights, was destroyed by disease and alcohol within a > decade. > > Ray. > > (Descendant of John Randall and John Martin, Alexander 1788).. > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Barbara Eglitis > <muffy15@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > > > Obviously! Do you think they could all live in bark humpys and live > > on goannas? > > > > Muffy. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "COLIN BORROTT-MALONEY" <colinbm1@bigpond.com> > > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [PJ] A man in a thousand. > > > > > > > The infrastructure was already in place for the original inhabitants. > > > Everything that was needed to sustain life was already in place for > > > them > > ! > > > It was the white mans burden that had to be carried out to here ! > > > Cheers > > > Col > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> > > > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:05 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PJ] A man in a thousand. > > > > > > > > >> Hi Valerie, Thank you > > >> > > >> Governor Phillip was certainly one of our better Governors and his > > >> job made all that more difficult, arriving as they did with no > > >> infrastructure in place. > > >> > > >> regards > > >> > > >> > > >> Lesley Uebel > > >> mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > >> CLAIM A CONVICT > > >> http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > > >> [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of > > >> valerie.williams > > >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:23 PM > > >> To: PJ Convicts > > >> Subject: Re: [PJ] A man in a thousand. > > >> > > >> > > >> Dear Lesley, > > >> > > >> I agree with you about Captain Arthur Phillip, he really is the > > >> Father > > of > > >> Our Nation and doesn't receive the recognition he deserves. > > >> > > >> Thank you for taking the time to type up the information from HRA > > >> for > > our > > >> list. 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