Dear Lister,s just returned from Darling Harbour where I saw the Tall ships again. It makes you wonder that even if our forbears were short how they got all those people and stores into the ships for so many months in the voyage out here. I once went on an ocean liner and that was not the best thing when we had a storm so what they must have gone through in those tiny ships. The harbour and stretts, trains etc. were a sea of Australian flags waved by many nationalities. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <miworrad@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Today's Age > Hi, Grahame, > > There was an article about the project in today's Sydney Morning Herald as > well. That article said that a team ranging from historians to > epidimiologists, with the help of amateur genealogists, will be helping to > uncover convict stories. Hopefully it will not just be Tassie. I've > contacted the site to ask them about it. > > Regards > > Merril > > > >> Grahame & Rosslyn Thom <grthom@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Its still there Barbara - try by copy and paste into the internet as >> the wrapping around is probably the problem. >> >> The article kind of indicates Tassie is first so I thought NSW could >> be included in the future. I had not looked at the founders web site >> because of the date. >> >> The other interesting thing is that there are no family historians on >> the Project Team, all academics. >> >> cheers >> >> Grahame >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, Happy Australia Day. We had a holiday here yesterday, but it was for Chinese New Year rather than Australia Day. Sorry I have been away for a month, but looks like the list is still very lively and I bet none of you missed me. You are right Sandra. We have little idea of the hardships our forebears endured. That voyage from England over stormy seas, and don't forget they went a long way south to get the good winds, must have been a horrendous experience. Perhaps part of the reason not many returned to the Old Dart after they served their time. Apart from that they were to a fair degree considered free after they obtained a pardon or ticket of freedom. Too many in the same boat so the treatment would be better than could be expected in England. I suppose the Irish felt repressed at home so might as well make a go of it in the new country. Apart from that voyage, the number of children dying in infancy and the number of women dying in childbirth were horrendous by today's standards, but some parts of the world still endure similar hardships. I think we are too soft today compared to the hardy people who started the white settlement 200 odd years ago. I note Colin's message also, but that would be for a different list as Lesley says. By the way, I wonder where the adultery list is. Yesterday I think it was that Lesley wrote along the lines: "I think I see the word adultery in her VDL records.... but that is for another list." Sorry Lesley, a warped sense of humour. I know you meant the van Diemans Land list. Best regards, John Bushell