Hi, has anyone out there come across the name of Cruden? My gt gt gt grandmother had this surname but I cannot find anything about her anywhere. They don't have a marriage certificate or a birthcertificate for their daughter and I cannot find any convicts with the surname either. I looked at this because a lot of the time not being able to find anything was because they were convicts. sorry to waste anyones time if she or her parents weren't. Sandra ----- Original Message -----

Hi Listers Its my 60th birthday today and I received a book AUSTRALIA'S BIRTHSTAIN - The startling Legacy of the Convict Era by Babette Smith. I also have THE CRIMES OF THE FIRST FLEET CONVICTS by John Cobley. If anyone would like me to look up in either of these books please let me know. I am happy to do so. Pat Mott Central Victoria Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, DINES, MARSH On 29/01/2009, at 10:37 PM, sandra fox wrote: > Hi, has anyone out there come across the name of Cruden? My gt gt gt > grandmother had this surname but I cannot find anything about her > anywhere. > They don't have a marriage certificate or a birthcertificate for their > daughter and I cannot find any convicts with the surname either. I > looked > at this because a lot of the time not being able to find anything was > because they were convicts. sorry to waste anyones time if she or her > parents weren't. Sandra > ----- Original Message ----- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandra I have that name (CRUDEN) twice in my database, however not relating to convicts. Firstly to a Eileen CRUDEN who married Hilary Robert Augustine CHAPMAN in 1945 at Petersham NSW. Her parentage unknown to me as she was born after 1918. Secondly I have Robert Cruden GORDON (parents Daniel GORDON and Mary SCOTT), born 1799 in Martinique arrived in NSW 1838 with family and settled in the Morpeth area. Daniel Gordon had shipping interests out of Charleston, South Carolina. Regards Alan

Hi Sandra and Alan The site below will give you an indication of where a surname occurs in the UK. cheers Grahame http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/ On 30/01/2009, at 9:12 PM, Alan Eade wrote: > Sandra > > I have that name (CRUDEN) twice in my database, however not > relating to convicts. > Firstly to a Eileen CRUDEN who married Hilary Robert Augustine > CHAPMAN in 1945 at Petersham NSW. Her parentage unknown to me as > she was born after 1918. > Secondly I have Robert Cruden GORDON (parents Daniel GORDON and > Mary SCOTT), born 1799 in Martinique arrived in NSW 1838 with > family and settled in the Morpeth area. Daniel Gordon had shipping > interests out of Charleston, South Carolina. > > Regards Alan >

Thanks Allen but I think these are too late as Ann was not known to have any siblings etc. trying to find if a great aunt whom she came to live with can remember anything else. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Eade" <eade.alan@bigpond.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Untraceable relatives. > Sandra > > I have that name (CRUDEN) twice in my database, however not relating to > convicts. > Firstly to a Eileen CRUDEN who married Hilary Robert Augustine CHAPMAN in > 1945 at Petersham NSW. Her parentage unknown to me as she was born after > 1918. > Secondly I have Robert Cruden GORDON (parents Daniel GORDON and Mary > SCOTT), born 1799 in Martinique arrived in NSW 1838 with family and > settled in the Morpeth area. Daniel Gordon had shipping interests out of > Charleston, South Carolina. > > Regards Alan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message