Thanks John, I actually spent last night entering each event into an excel spreadsheet in order to do just what you suggest. It highlights the tendency to baptise the children of the previous marriage on the day of the new marriage(!!!) and that there must be more than one woman involved but has not shown me anything to help separate them as yet. The only thing it has raised is even more confusion In Feb 1841 Margaret Kenny marries Thomas Briggs. In Sep 1841 Sarah is born (this bdate given in her 1842 baptism) In both Feb & Nov 1841 Margaret is tried for stealing getting 6 months for the first and 7 years for the second. In Dec 1841 she is transported to VDL. In Oct 1844 Margaret gets permission to marry Thomas COLLINS In Nov 1844 Alice Briggs child of Margaret & Thomas is baptised aged 13 months (so born after my Margaret left NSW) In Nov 1844 Henry Briggs son of Margaret and Thomas is baptised aged 3 years. Meaning he was born in 1841. Now if he has JUST turned three, then he was born in Oct 1841, if he's about to turn 4 then he was born anytime after Oct 1840, so either while she was expecting Sarah, or within weeks before her conception. Being baptised separately seems to indicate that the Margaret and Thomas Briggs who had Sarah are different to the Margaret and Thomas Briggs who had Henry and Alice. That Margaret then marries Collins and the children and the marriage are Catholic.... all the other events are presbyterian. I think my brain may explode. ;) Happy Australia Day Minuet At 04:33 PM 26/01/2009, you wrote: >Hi Lesley & Minuet, > I have been following this confusing > trail with interest. > It occurred to me that a lot of time and effort has gone > into the NAMES involved. Has anyone tried to list the NUMERALS of > the dates to see if they disclose any anomalies? It is so easy to > transcribe a date wrongly or read it wrongly when it is in handwritten script. > Just an idea but it may reveal where a further error may lie. >Kind regards, > John Chapman > Werris Creek. >First Railway Town in Australia.

Hi I am been reading the story of your family ... Minuet you have one of those jigsaw puzzles that have become so jumbled ... but i am sure that it will all fall into place. Please keep me informed on it ..it has been great reading Michelle Herbert Bateau Bay NSW AUS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Minuet" <minuet9@internode.on.net> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Kenny?Briggs > Thanks John, > > I actually spent last night entering each event into an > excel spreadsheet in order to do just what you suggest. > It highlights the tendency to baptise the children of the previous > marriage on the day of the new marriage(!!!) and that there must be > more than one woman involved but has not shown me anything > to help separate them as yet. > The only thing it has raised is even more confusion > > In Feb 1841 Margaret Kenny marries Thomas Briggs. > In Sep 1841 Sarah is born (this bdate given in her 1842 baptism) > In both Feb & Nov 1841 Margaret is tried for stealing getting 6 > months for the first and 7 years for the second. > In Dec 1841 she is transported to VDL. > In Oct 1844 Margaret gets permission to marry Thomas COLLINS > In Nov 1844 Alice Briggs child of Margaret & Thomas is baptised aged > 13 months (so born after my Margaret left NSW) > In Nov 1844 Henry Briggs son of Margaret and Thomas is baptised aged 3 > years. > Meaning he was born in 1841. > Now if he has JUST turned three, then he was born in Oct 1841, if > he's about to turn 4 then he was born anytime after Oct 1840, > so either while she was expecting Sarah, or within weeks before her > conception. Being baptised separately seems to indicate that the > Margaret and Thomas Briggs who had Sarah are different to the > Margaret and Thomas Briggs who had Henry and Alice. > That Margaret then marries Collins and the children and the marriage > are Catholic.... all the other events are presbyterian. > I think my brain may explode. > ;) > > Happy Australia Day > Minuet > > > > > At 04:33 PM 26/01/2009, you wrote: >>Hi Lesley & Minuet, >> I have been following this confusing >> trail with interest. >> It occurred to me that a lot of time and effort has gone >> into the NAMES involved. Has anyone tried to list the NUMERALS of >> the dates to see if they disclose any anomalies? It is so easy to >> transcribe a date wrongly or read it wrongly when it is in handwritten >> script. >> Just an idea but it may reveal where a further error may lie. >>Kind regards, >> John Chapman >> Werris Creek. >>First Railway Town in Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Keep looking I had a simular problem with a relli turned out he had a wife Margaret with whom he was having children with and a maid Margaret with whom he was also having children with at the same time! we worked out what was going on after purchasing all the childrens death certificates and one of the Margarets ----- Original Message ----- From: "Minuet" <minuet9@internode.on.net> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Kenny?Briggs > Thanks John, > > I actually spent last night entering each event into an > excel spreadsheet in order to do just what you suggest. > It highlights the tendency to baptise the children of the previous > marriage on the day of the new marriage(!!!) and that there must be > more than one woman involved but has not shown me anything > to help separate them as yet. > The only thing it has raised is even more confusion > > In Feb 1841 Margaret Kenny marries Thomas Briggs. > In Sep 1841 Sarah is born (this bdate given in her 1842 baptism) > In both Feb & Nov 1841 Margaret is tried for stealing getting 6 > months for the first and 7 years for the second. > In Dec 1841 she is transported to VDL. > In Oct 1844 Margaret gets permission to marry Thomas COLLINS > In Nov 1844 Alice Briggs child of Margaret & Thomas is baptised aged > 13 months (so born after my Margaret left NSW) > In Nov 1844 Henry Briggs son of Margaret and Thomas is baptised aged 3 > years. > Meaning he was born in 1841. > Now if he has JUST turned three, then he was born in Oct 1841, if > he's about to turn 4 then he was born anytime after Oct 1840, > so either while she was expecting Sarah, or within weeks before her > conception. Being baptised separately seems to indicate that the > Margaret and Thomas Briggs who had Sarah are different to the > Margaret and Thomas Briggs who had Henry and Alice. > That Margaret then marries Collins and the children and the marriage > are Catholic.... all the other events are presbyterian. > I think my brain may explode. > ;) > > Happy Australia Day > Minuet > > > > > At 04:33 PM 26/01/2009, you wrote: >>Hi Lesley & Minuet, >> I have been following this confusing >> trail with interest. >> It occurred to me that a lot of time and effort has gone >> into the NAMES involved. Has anyone tried to list the NUMERALS of >> the dates to see if they disclose any anomalies? It is so easy to >> transcribe a date wrongly or read it wrongly when it is in handwritten >> script. >> Just an idea but it may reveal where a further error may lie. >>Kind regards, >> John Chapman >> Werris Creek. >>First Railway Town in Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message