Thanks Lesley. I wasn't sure if the muster was taken when they left or when they arrived.   My quandary is that there are two sons, firstly James who's death cert says he was born in Ireland and a second Robert who's death cert say he was born at sea. Esther married ex-convict Patrick [aka John] Gillan per Tyne 1819,  not long after she arrived in 1830. Both James and Robert at times used the Gillan surname although James most often stayed with Byrne [and variations] A third child Thomas Gillan was baptised in September 1831.    If the child on board the Asia was the infant Robert, then I still have to find when son James arrived. James was born about 1825 and his death cert suggests about 1833. I know convict families were brought out, but would a single child come alone? Esther was a widow when she was convicted and I have found no other record of any family in the colony.   If anyone else is researching this family, I have lots of information on Esther and Patrick/John Gillan including details of her third marriage in 1841 to George Hall and additional children she had with him.   regards,   Jenny W [Brisbane]     Hi Jenny Given that the muster taken on board when the Asia arrived in 1830 states she had one child on board, then I would think that she had only the one. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 16/08/2011 8:13 PM, Jenny W wrote: > I am interested in finding out if any infants were born to the convict women on board the ship Asia that arrived in PJ in January 1830. The National Archives Kew website has the surgeon's journal online but it only shows medical cases with no mention of births. I am hoping to confirm that Esther BYRNE, who is shown as having a child on board, also gave birth to a second child during the voyage. > > Any suggestions are welcomed. > > Regards, > > Jenny W [Brisbane] > From: Lesley Uebel <[email protected]> To: Jenny W <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Convict ship Asia 1829/30

Hi Jenny, Perhaps one was conceived on board ? Have you checked the female factory records as yet? regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 16/08/2011 9:47 PM, Jenny W wrote: > Thanks Lesley. I wasn't sure if the muster was taken when they left or when they arrived. > > My quandary is that there are two sons, firstly James who's death cert says he was born in Ireland and a second Robert who's death cert say he was born at sea. Esther married ex-convict Patrick [aka John] Gillan per Tyne 1819, not long after she arrived in 1830. Both James and Robert at times used the Gillan surname although James most often stayed with Byrne [and variations] A third child Thomas Gillan was baptised in September 1831. > > If the child on board the Asia was the infant Robert, then I still have to find when son James arrived. James was born about 1825 and his death cert suggests about 1833. I know convict families were brought out, but would a single child come alone? Esther was a widow when she was convicted and I have found no other record of any family in the colony. > > If anyone else is researching this family, I have lots of information on Esther and Patrick/John Gillan including details of her third marriage in 1841 to George Hall and additional children she had with him. > > regards, > > Jenny W [Brisbane] > >