Hi Jim The "Indents" were made up overseas prior to sailing. There was more than one copy made at the time, at least one copy would have been retained by the Home Office and one copy given to the ships Master. Given that many of the early Indents contained convicts who did not sail, or received a reprieve prior to sailing, were too sick or had died prior to sailing then they would have been made up well before sailing. You will note that on some, the destination states Africa. Later Indents were actually musters taken on board on arrival to gather more information about the convicts. I believe you will not find a muster taken on board on arrival of the convicts who arrived on the Speedy in 1800 Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 24/05/2011 12:41 AM, Jim Loftus wrote: > Hello Lesley > When were the indents recorded - on departure or arrival or some other time? > > For example, I am interested in the Hillsborough 1798& Speedy 1799. The > "Lists" I have (I assume these are the indents) both seem to have been > written in the same hand but I wonder if there were also written at the same > time. I also have what I think is the Hillsborough's ship's muster taken in > 1799 which is by a different hand. I have not been able to find the > comparable document for the Speedy. > > Can you confirm that the "Lists" are the indents? And when they were > recorded? > Should I be able to find an arrival muster for the Speedy? > > Best regards > Jim Loftus > > >
Thank you for the clarification Lesley I assume then that I have the Home Office copy. They are labelled HO 11 / 1 Best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: May-24-11 1:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] Indents Hi Jim The "Indents" were made up overseas prior to sailing. There was more than one copy made at the time, at least one copy would have been retained by the Home Office and one copy given to the ships Master. Given that many of the early Indents contained convicts who did not sail, or received a reprieve prior to sailing, were too sick or had died prior to sailing then they would have been made up well before sailing. You will note that on some, the destination states Africa. Later Indents were actually musters taken on board on arrival to gather more information about the convicts. I believe you will not find a muster taken on board on arrival of the convicts who arrived on the Speedy in 1800 Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 24/05/2011 12:41 AM, Jim Loftus wrote: > Hello Lesley > When were the indents recorded - on departure or arrival or some other time? > > For example, I am interested in the Hillsborough 1798& Speedy 1799. > The "Lists" I have (I assume these are the indents) both seem to have > been written in the same hand but I wonder if there were also written > at the same time. I also have what I think is the Hillsborough's > ship's muster taken in > 1799 which is by a different hand. I have not been able to find the > comparable document for the Speedy. > > Can you confirm that the "Lists" are the indents? And when they were > recorded? > Should I be able to find an arrival muster for the Speedy? > > Best regards > Jim Loftus > > > ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3655 - Release Date: 05/23/11