Hi Catherine Ryde is an inner suburb of Sydney to the NW. Just put - population sydney 1861 - in google and you will find one site says 56,000. Its a good chance she was the only Frances Kingsbury in Sydney at the time. One way to get a feel for this is to do a search for that name in the NSW BDM online index to see how many come up for a period say around 1840 to 1900. Courts are part of the administration, therefore if records are extant then its likely they are held by the NSW State Records, go to their site and search. cheers Grahame On 24/06/2011, at 5:25 PM, Catherine Rowntree wrote: > Hi Lesley and Listers, I haven’t been on for awhile but I am still reading > what everyone is up to. > > > > I hope my questions are enough on topic. > > > > I found an article in the nla newspapers on one of my convicts daughters-I > think? > > > > Francis Kingsbury’s daughter, Frances was born in 1841 in Ryde (part of > Sydney I think-don’t know Sydney at all) and the article put her in about > the right place(Hyde Park) aged about 20yrs. > > > > I am trying to confirm if this is one of my ancestors. > > > > Does anybody know the population of Sydney (as this incident happened in > Hyde Park) in 1861? What is the likelihood of their being two Frances > Kingsburys? > > How could I find out about the trial and what happened? > > > > I also can’t make out a couple of the below phrases (I have high lighted > them-not sure if that will show) > > > > > > The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954), Friday 1 November 1861, page 2 > > Joseph Roberts was brought beforo tho'Court by inspec- tor Taylor, who > yesterday apprehended him on a chargo of having feloniously ana unlawfully > attempted to admi- nister to Frances Kingsbury a certain stupefying and > overpowering thing, to wit, cautharides, or spanish fly, mixed on orange, > with intent to assist him in tho commis- sion of a felony upon her ; he > said, in reply to the ohargo, that it was all humbug. Tho inspector producod > the orange, which ho had shown to two chemists and to Dr. Rutter. Frances > Kingsbury, residing in Crown-strcot, deposed that, on Sunday evening, tho > prisoner and herself were out together from about half-past seven-until half > past ten-sometimes walking, at othors sitting on tho grass of Hydo Park ; > whilo sitting, soon after they went out, ho gave her an orange from' his > pocket, which, instead of eating, she put into her own pocket; she was > suspicious of somo trick, becauso when she commenced to peel it she found a > portion of tho skin to bo loose, and sho excused herself by saying, that > having already partaken rather freely of fruit, sho feired it mignt make her > unwell ; on parting ho asked her and sho promisod him to accompany him the > following evening to tho theatre ; next morning sho looked at the orango > find saw that it contained moro than orango ; sho took it to a chemist, and > in' consequenco of what ho said sho yes-' tcrday complained to a magistrate. > Dr. Rutter, police surgeon, deposed that ho had examined the »range produced > by inspector Taylor, and found that a portion of tho fruit hod been cut out, > and a cavity filled with about ten grains > > of Spanish fly-a powerful animal¡rritablo poison, which,, if prosecutrix had > eaton, would havo made her very ill, though the quantity ÍB too Binall to > destroy lifo. Prisonor said that tho orango ho govo prosecutrix was sound, > and I that ho know nothing of the orange producod. Committed for trial at > tho Central Criminal Court. > > > > Any help with above would be very appreciated. > > Cheers, Catherine > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message