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    1. Re: [PJ] MORAN Michael, Patrick, John - lookups please
    2. Natalie Baig
    3. Hi Pam, Replied off line, Natalie

    05/31/2013 04:56:43
    1. Re: [PJ] James Farrell/Joseph Farrall per Surry 1836, aged 13, from County Down
    2. Lesley Uebel
    3. Hi Bryan, Yes, it was unusual to be given an Absolute Pardon before the convict arrived in PJ so it looks like it was something that happened in Ireland just after the Surrey left. The Surrey left Cork on the 9th January 1836 and the despatch regarding this boy was dated 31st January 1836 - so perhaps it was sent on the next ship leaving Ireland. James is mentioned a number of times in the HRA but on checking these volumes it does not provide the detail of what had happened although the Index does give you some clue. James Farrell - HRA Series 1 - Volume date free pardon for .. 1835-1837 .. Jul 1835 - Jun 1837 - Vol. XVIII report re free pardon for .. 1842-1843 .. Apr 1842 - Jun 1843 - Vol. XXII instructions for return to England of .. 1843-1844 .. Jul 1843 - Sept 1844 - Vol. XXIII report acknowledged re delay in issue of pardon to .. 1843-1844 .. Jul 1843 - Sept 1844 - Vol. XXIII report re .. 1844-1846 .. Oct 1844 - Mar 1846 - Vol. XXIV statement re .. 1844-1846 .. Oct 1844 - Mar 1846 - Vol. XXIV The Indent does state that he was allowed an Absolute Pardon and that there was a Colonial Secretary's letter No 39/501 dated 25 June 1839 regarding the matter. I realise that you don't live in Australia but checking the Post 1825 Colonial Secretary's Index by the late Joan Reece could be an option to obtain the extra details needed by the State Records of NSW. Perhaps someone could check for you. It is interesting that the HRA mentions return to England and not return to Ireland Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 30/05/2013 3:37 PM, Bryan wrote: > Hello all, > > Can I just run this fellow's history past you as I know it? > > Name: James Farrell/Joseph Farrall and combinations thereof > Born: probably Newry, County Down, Ireland, about 1822 > Sentenced at Londonderry 4 Aug 1835, larceny, aged 13 > (Query: why would a 13 yr old be on the loose in Londonderry?) > Departed Cork 9 Jan 1836 on Surr(e)y 1 (9) > Arr PJ 17 May 1836 > > So he's now about 14 years old. Where does he go? > > Pardon: I have a newspaper record from The Sydney Gazette of 25 June 1836 > In an advertisement dated Sydney, 13th June, 1836 from His Excellency the > Governor (Alexander McLeay) in a despatch, dated 31st Jan. 1836, No. 101, > giving an Absolute Pardon to "Farrell James, Surry", see > http://tinyurl.com/nh79y25 > Another report would suggest: Absolute Pardon 25 Jun 1839 > > I also believe he got into trouble again: > 16 Aug 1839: Sydney Gaol. (about 17 years old) > Trial. 11 Jan 1840:Acquitted. > 6 May 1840: Maitland Bench. 3 years for larceny. To iron'd gang > He's now only 18 years old. > (But I'm sorry but I've lost the sources for these). > > I have corresponded here on this young man before. > The thread is here: http://tinyurl.com/o8ld3xr > > What I am asking is these: > > How can I find out what happened to him after his sentence on 6 May 1840, at > Maitland? He would have been freed I guess in 1843. There's a NSW death > record in 1842 - no index details. > Was it normal to grant a Pardon dated 31 Jan 1836 (22 days after he left > Cork) and some 3 months before he arrived in PJ? > Where does the pardon in 1839 fit? > If I am the right track his sister arrived (assisted) in the area as married > to Patrick Logan in January 1844. It's a rather tentative link, I know. > I'm sorry if I've wasted people's time but at least the exercise has > suggested to me that there's no further I can go. > > But if anything pops out, please let me know! > > Regards > Bryan > Chch, NZ > >

    05/31/2013 03:43:06
    1. Re: [PJ] James Farrell/Joseph Farrall per Surry 1836, aged 13, from County Down
    2. Grahame Thom
    3. Hi Bryan There is nothing remarkable about the fact that a 13 year old received a sentence. They were old enough to work long hours. He could have been living on the streets. Maybe he was an orphan. I doubt the colonial administration was even aware of young James Farrell before he arrived. No, the colonial administration did not issue pardons before the convict arrived. Assuming the 1836 newspaper report is correct, then there may have been at least two convicts named James Farrell, and they travelled on different voyages of the Surrey. The other Surrey convicts mentioned in the 1836 advert came on the 1834 voyage of the Surrey. Perhaps the paper made a mistake in saying James Farrell came on the Surrey and in fact its another James Farrell on an earlier different named ship. cheers Grahame

    05/31/2013 03:08:08
    1. Re: [PJ] MORAN Michael, Patrick, John - lookups please
    2. Grahame Thom
    3. Hi Pam Can check the 1837 Muster, but my question to you is, what do you have already, as listers wont want to duplicate anything you have on hand? cheers Grahame On 30/05/2013, at 1:55 PM, Pam Dowling wrote: > Good afternoon Listers, from a freezing cold Rotorua > > Just wondering if anyone has access to Indent or other information > and could lookup details for these three convicts for me please: > > Moran, Michael1832Eliza 11 (4) > Moran, Patrick1832Eliza 11 (4) > Moran, John1836Captain Cook (3) > > Many thanks > Pam > > An Aussie transported to Rotorua, NZ > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/31/2013 02:35:04
    1. Re: [PJ] James Farrell/Joseph Farrall per Surry 1836, aged 13, from County Down
    2. Lisa Apfel
    3. Bryan, Looking at the old thread I think you need to go back to your Catherine. Was she sponsored to come out? I would look at the Immigration Deposit Journals to see if you someone helped pay her passage (usually a relative). Also check the shipping records as they may list "relatives in the colony". I believe immigration is outside the scope of this list but I hope this gives you some new ideas. Lisa On 30/05/2013, at 15:37, "Bryan" <bryannp@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > Hello all, > > Can I just run this fellow's history past you as I know it? > > Name: James Farrell/Joseph Farrall and combinations thereof > Born: probably Newry, County Down, Ireland, about 1822 > Sentenced at Londonderry 4 Aug 1835, larceny, aged 13 > (Query: why would a 13 yr old be on the loose in Londonderry?) > Departed Cork 9 Jan 1836 on Surr(e)y 1 (9) > Arr PJ 17 May 1836 > > So he's now about 14 years old. Where does he go? > > Pardon: I have a newspaper record from The Sydney Gazette of 25 June 1836 > In an advertisement dated Sydney, 13th June, 1836 from His Excellency the > Governor (Alexander McLeay) in a despatch, dated 31st Jan. 1836, No. 101, > giving an Absolute Pardon to "Farrell James, Surry", see > http://tinyurl.com/nh79y25 > Another report would suggest: Absolute Pardon 25 Jun 1839 > > I also believe he got into trouble again: > 16 Aug 1839: Sydney Gaol. (about 17 years old) > Trial. 11 Jan 1840:Acquitted. > 6 May 1840: Maitland Bench. 3 years for larceny. To iron'd gang > He's now only 18 years old. > (But I'm sorry but I've lost the sources for these). > > I have corresponded here on this young man before. > The thread is here: http://tinyurl.com/o8ld3xr > > What I am asking is these: > > How can I find out what happened to him after his sentence on 6 May 1840, at > Maitland? He would have been freed I guess in 1843. There's a NSW death > record in 1842 - no index details. > Was it normal to grant a Pardon dated 31 Jan 1836 (22 days after he left > Cork) and some 3 months before he arrived in PJ? > Where does the pardon in 1839 fit? > If I am the right track his sister arrived (assisted) in the area as married > to Patrick Logan in January 1844. It's a rather tentative link, I know. > I'm sorry if I've wasted people's time but at least the exercise has > suggested to me that there's no further I can go. > > But if anything pops out, please let me know! > > Regards > Bryan > Chch, NZ > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/31/2013 02:01:32
    1. [PJ] James Farrell/Joseph Farrall per Surry 1836, aged 13, from County Down
    2. Bryan
    3. Hello all, Can I just run this fellow's history past you as I know it? Name: James Farrell/Joseph Farrall and combinations thereof Born: probably Newry, County Down, Ireland, about 1822 Sentenced at Londonderry 4 Aug 1835, larceny, aged 13 (Query: why would a 13 yr old be on the loose in Londonderry?) Departed Cork 9 Jan 1836 on Surr(e)y 1 (9) Arr PJ 17 May 1836 So he's now about 14 years old. Where does he go? Pardon: I have a newspaper record from The Sydney Gazette of 25 June 1836 In an advertisement dated Sydney, 13th June, 1836 from His Excellency the Governor (Alexander McLeay) in a despatch, dated 31st Jan. 1836, No. 101, giving an Absolute Pardon to "Farrell James, Surry", see http://tinyurl.com/nh79y25 Another report would suggest: Absolute Pardon 25 Jun 1839 I also believe he got into trouble again: 16 Aug 1839: Sydney Gaol. (about 17 years old) Trial. 11 Jan 1840:Acquitted. 6 May 1840: Maitland Bench. 3 years for larceny. To iron'd gang He's now only 18 years old. (But I'm sorry but I've lost the sources for these). I have corresponded here on this young man before. The thread is here: http://tinyurl.com/o8ld3xr What I am asking is these: How can I find out what happened to him after his sentence on 6 May 1840, at Maitland? He would have been freed I guess in 1843. There's a NSW death record in 1842 - no index details. Was it normal to grant a Pardon dated 31 Jan 1836 (22 days after he left Cork) and some 3 months before he arrived in PJ? Where does the pardon in 1839 fit? If I am the right track his sister arrived (assisted) in the area as married to Patrick Logan in January 1844. It's a rather tentative link, I know. I'm sorry if I've wasted people's time but at least the exercise has suggested to me that there's no further I can go. But if anything pops out, please let me know! Regards Bryan Chch, NZ

    05/30/2013 11:37:31
    1. [PJ] MORAN Michael, Patrick, John - lookups please
    2. Pam Dowling
    3. Good afternoon Listers, from a freezing cold Rotorua Just wondering if anyone has access to Indent or other information and could lookup details for these three convicts for me please: Moran, Michael1832Eliza 11 (4) Moran, Patrick1832Eliza 11 (4) Moran, John1836Captain Cook (3) Many thanks Pam An Aussie transported to Rotorua, NZ

    05/30/2013 09:55:58
    1. Re: [PJ] AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 86
    2. Derek & Jean Burr
    3. Thank you Lesley, Clive & Patricia Can you tell how much I know about Sydney from up here in Queensland. I need to spend a few months in Sydney this year and I thought I would try to fill in the small gap of 6 years before he received his Ticket of Leave. As you say Leslie he may have spent all of that time at Cook's River. I am aware that there may be nothing to find. I appreciate everyone's help. Derek -Message: 2 -Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 05:26:21 +1000 -From: "Derek & Jean Burr" <djburr@westnet.com.au> -Subject: Re: [PJ] Convict John Spires Lawrence -To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com>

    05/22/2013 11:46:17
    1. Re: [PJ] William Alcock/Allcock
    2. Darlene Simms
    3. Hi That's cool I have 4 trees all with ALCOCK/ALLCOCK, checked them all none of this date sorry cant help you, also checked McNamara none thought i could help as i have so many Darlene On 22 May 2013 13:35, Hec Alcock <heca@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > Hi Darlene, > > Yes you are correct, I had the second 1 as supertext, as was the 1 after > 1827. These referred to: > "#1 These dates are derived from his Death Cert." > > I forgot that messages were sent as unformatted text > > Cheers > Hec > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind Regards Darlene Ph: 0449805543

    05/22/2013 07:39:32
    1. Re: [PJ] William Alcock/Allcock
    2. Hec Alcock
    3. Hi Darlene, Yes you are correct, I had the second 1 as supertext, as was the 1 after 1827. These referred to: "#1 These dates are derived from his Death Cert." I forgot that messages were sent as unformatted text Cheers Hec

    05/22/2013 07:35:57
    1. Re: [PJ] Historical Records of Australia
    2. Natalie Baig
    3. Thanks very much Ray for the information. Natalie On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Raymond Chilton <raymond.chilton1@gmail.com > wrote: > All, > > "Historical Records of Australia" 19 Volumes, can be downloaded from the > Allen County Public Library at: > > http://archive.org/details/allen_county > >

    05/22/2013 07:31:45
    1. Re: [PJ] William Alcock/Allcock
    2. Darlene Simms
    3. hell9o Hec the dob you put is Place of Birth: Staffordshire, England Date: abt 18011 am assuming this to be 1801 is this correct? On 22 May 2013 10:47, Hec Alcock <heca@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > Hi List, > > I am still trying to prove which William Alcock/Allcock is my 2GGF > > > > A few years back we thought he was the William that came on the Morley, in > fact he may well be. > > > > The facts that I know from docs I have sighted are: > > > > Place of Birth: Staffordshire, England > > Date: abt 18011 > > Arrived in Aust: abt 1827 1 > > Married: Catherine McNamara. St Mary's, Roman Catholic Church in Sydney > 9th > Nov 1837 > > > > There is no reference on his marriage or death cert to indicate he was a > convict. > > He was a labourer and illiterate (His mark was made on some docs), Would an > illiterate person be able to afford passage if not at His Majesty's > pleasure? > > > > #1 These dates are derived from his Death Cert. > > > > > > > > The William from Morley(4) has similar details re age and place of birth, > with the exception he married Agnes Patterson (Buffalo) 2 > > In 1834 and he was protestant. > > > > I can find no reference to the above William or Agnes. Did Agnes die and he > remarried Catherine? > > > > #2 from the register of convicts application to marry. > > > > > > Hoping someone can help me to finally knock down this brickwall > > > > Cheers > > Hec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind Regards Darlene Ph: 0449805543

    05/22/2013 07:23:01
    1. Re: [PJ] William Alcock/Allcock
    2. Hec Alcock
    3. Hi Lesley, My thanks again for both your quick reply and sharing the wealth of knowledge you have. It looks very likely that William of the Morley may well be my 2GGF. Will try Staffordshire lists to see if someone has him. His death cert shows his parents as William and Mary, probably the most common names in England! Will let you know if successful. My thanks again Hec Alcock

    05/22/2013 06:37:34
    1. Re: [PJ] William Alcock/Allcock
    2. Lesley Uebel
    3. Hi Hec, When he married Catherine McNamara in 1837 and if he was the convict who arrived per the Morley in 1828, there was no requirement for him to apply for permission to marry as he had already served his 7 year sentence by that date. There will be no reference on his marriage details or his death certificate Yes, Agnes Paterson per Buffalo was granted approval to marry William Allcock per Morley but it appears as though that marriage did not eventuate. In 1835 and again in 1844 she applied to marry other men - and she eventually married in 1844 to John Cockcroft (or Cobcroft as noted in the BDMs). I should point out that William did not require permission to marry in 1834 either as he was free by 30 July 1834 and permission was granted in October 1834... it was Agnes doing the requesting. Just because they applied to marry through the Rev. Samuel Marsden does not mean that he was not a Catholic - although just checking the Indent it is noted that he was a Protestant. As regards being illiterate and being able to afford his passage to Australia - well, yes, there were many thousands who arrived free who were unable to either read or write. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 22/05/2013 10:47 AM, Hec Alcock wrote: > Hi List, > > I am still trying to prove which William Alcock/Allcock is my 2GGF > > > > A few years back we thought he was the William that came on the Morley, in > fact he may well be. > > > > The facts that I know from docs I have sighted are: > > > > Place of Birth: Staffordshire, England > > Date: abt 18011 > > Arrived in Aust: abt 1827 1 > > Married: Catherine McNamara. St Mary's, Roman Catholic Church in Sydney 9th > Nov 1837 > > > > There is no reference on his marriage or death cert to indicate he was a > convict. > > He was a labourer and illiterate (His mark was made on some docs), Would an > illiterate person be able to afford passage if not at His Majesty's > pleasure? > > > > #1 These dates are derived from his Death Cert. > > > > > > > > The William from Morley(4) has similar details re age and place of birth, > with the exception he married Agnes Patterson (Buffalo) 2 > > In 1834 and he was protestant. > > > > I can find no reference to the above William or Agnes. Did Agnes die and he > remarried Catherine? > > > > #2 from the register of convicts application to marry. > > > > > > Hoping someone can help me to finally knock down this brickwall > > > > Cheers > > Hec > > >

    05/22/2013 06:10:48
    1. Re: [PJ] Convict John Spires Lawrence
    2. Lesley Uebel
    3. Hi Derek, I remember your question from last year and that I told you that he waa to assist with the building of another barracks as the one at Hyde Park was full and the building of a dam across the Cook's River. It was a fairly short answer at the time (perhaps I was busy) but will post the full details from the HRA below. By 1846 John Lawrence would have been able to apply for a TOL because he had served 6 years of his 15 year sentence. Being in receipt of a TOL meant that he would not have been assigned to anyone. Also being in receipt of a TOL meant he was still a Prisoner of the Crown but just one with an indulgence. I don't know how he ended up in Port Macquarie but it could have been after he had served his 6 years at the Cook's River. You could check the post 1825 Colonial Sec. Index to see if he is mentioned. This Index by Joan Reese should be available at many libraries on microfiche. From memory one used to be able to apply via the State Records website for a copy of these records if you supplied all the details as noted on the Index without actually having to attend the Kingswood office although this may no longer be the case. As regards his Ticket of Leave - I have found the following references to him in the Government Gazettes: Government Gazette 10 April 1846 page 453 The undermentioned Prisoners of the Crown have received Tickets of Leave since the last publication Port Macquarie Lawrence, John – Barossa. ----------------------------------------- Government Gazette 22nd November 1850 page 1802 The Tickets of Leave of the undermentioned Prisoners of the Crown have been cancelled fro being absent from their districts, they are illegally at large. Port Macquarie John Lawrence - Barossa ------------------------------------ Government Gazette 15 May 1851 page 796 Runaways apprehended with date of apprehension John Lawrence – Barossa, from Ticket of Leave, Port Macquarie on 16th April 1851 ---------------------------------- Part of:- Sir George Gipps to Lord Glenelg Government House 8th July 1839 My Lord I have the honor herewith to forward an estimate amounting to £4078 14s. 11 3/4d. for works in the Engineer Department (of Convict services) which I have found myself under the necessity of sanctioning, and with respect to which I beg leave to offer the following explanations:- The first item is for the erection of a New Stockade for 500 men at Cook’s River. The order, contained in your Lordship’s Despatch of the 6th July, 1838, No. 147, for detaining under the control of Government all newly arrived convicts for a certain period before they are allowed to go into private service or assignment, has caused a demand for greater accommodation than our existing establishments could supply; and it being thus absolutely necessary to place the men somewhere, and to lodge them at the expense of the Home Government, I considered the opportunity a good one to commence a work, which promises to be of great use to the Colony, namely, the construction of a Dam across Cook’s River, a little above the spot where it falls into Botany Bay, about five miles from Sydney, It is the first operation of the sort upon a large scale, which has been attempted in this country, and the importance of it may be well understood, when I say that it will preserve an inexhaustible supply of fresh water through a course of nearly twenty miles of country, where there is at present no water at all, or only that which being brought by the tide, is salt; also that it will effectually secure the Town of Sydney against any recurrence of the apprehension of a scarcity of water which was felt during the drought of the early part of this year, in consequence of its being well ascertained that the swamp from which the Town is now supplied, is gradually drying up. The whole expense of the dam, with the exception of the lodging and feeding of the convicts, will be defrayed by the Colony. The distance of the proposed dam from Sydney is a very convenient one, being not too great to allow the men to come under my own frequent inspection, and yet far enough away to keep them from evil intercourse with the Town. Your Lordship is aware that the only place, or at least the principal place in which convicts are lodged in Sydney, is the Prison called “Hyde Park Barracks”, a place which is the common receptacle for men of all classes, and especially for those, who for their offences are withdrawn from private service. To place newly arrived convicts in the immediate contact with these old and hardened offenders would seem (even if there were room for them, which there is not) contrary to the spirit which dictated the order contained in your Lordship’s despatch above alluded to. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 22/05/2013 5:26 AM, Derek & Jean Burr wrote: > Hi It has been some time since I have been able to get to Sydney to research > my convict. > > John Lawrence was a Farm servant sentenced to 15 years transportation to > Port Jackson, Sydney for Picking pockets at Gloucester City 22/10/1838 at > age 22. Sailed 31/7/1839 on ship Barossa Arrived 8/12/1839. > Two weeks later, the Australasian Chronicle reported that the convicts who > arrived by the Barossa were removed on Monday 16th December to the Cook's > River station where a new Stockade was being built to house workers to build > a dam over the river. > > My next record is Ticket of Leave 9/8/1946. Allowed to remain in the > district of Port Macquarie on recommendation of Port Macquarie bench. > (Kempsey was part of Port Macquarie district at that time) > Cancelled in absence from district 6/11/1850 vide government minutes on list > registration No. 50/3957. Ticket reissued absence explained, Governor minute > on letter dated 16 April 1851 registered 51/885. His wife's obituary states > he worked as a Stock-Keeper at Lake Innes (Port Macquarie) and afterwards at > Moparrabah (near Kempsey). A Major Innes owned Lake Innes property. > > My question is how did he get to Port Macquarie. Was he assigned to someone. > > Many years ago when I visited the NSW library in Sydney I was informed I > would need to go out to the suburbs to another records place to research > where John was assigned. I ran out of time. > Can anyone tell me where this place is to research convict assignments. > > thanks > Derek >

    05/22/2013 06:08:34
    1. [PJ] William Alcock/Allcock
    2. Hec Alcock
    3. Hi List, I am still trying to prove which William Alcock/Allcock is my 2GGF A few years back we thought he was the William that came on the Morley, in fact he may well be. The facts that I know from docs I have sighted are: Place of Birth: Staffordshire, England Date: abt 18011 Arrived in Aust: abt 1827 1 Married: Catherine McNamara. St Mary's, Roman Catholic Church in Sydney 9th Nov 1837 There is no reference on his marriage or death cert to indicate he was a convict. He was a labourer and illiterate (His mark was made on some docs), Would an illiterate person be able to afford passage if not at His Majesty's pleasure? #1 These dates are derived from his Death Cert. The William from Morley(4) has similar details re age and place of birth, with the exception he married Agnes Patterson (Buffalo) 2 In 1834 and he was protestant. I can find no reference to the above William or Agnes. Did Agnes die and he remarried Catherine? #2 from the register of convicts application to marry. Hoping someone can help me to finally knock down this brickwall Cheers Hec

    05/22/2013 04:47:34
    1. [PJ] Historical Records of Australia
    2. Raymond Chilton
    3. All, "Historical Records of Australia" 19 Volumes, can be downloaded from the Allen County Public Library at: http://archive.org/details/allen_county In the search box, type : Historical Records of Australia Then search "All Media Types" Careful, the file sizes are large, ie 19 files x ~60mbytes each = ~1.2gbytes to ~1.5 gbytes Cheers Ray

    05/22/2013 03:45:41
    1. Re: [PJ] Convict John Spires Lawrence
    2. Patricia Dempsey
    3. Hi Derek This is probably the place in the suburbs that you are looking for. It is the State Records Repository (State Archives) 143 O'Connell Street, Kingswood Mon-Fri 9am-5pm & Sat 10am-4pm (Closed Sun & Public Holidays) The staff there are very helpful. Good luck with your research. Patricia

    05/22/2013 02:49:30
    1. Re: [PJ] Convict John Spires Lawrence
    2. Clive Smith
    3. Dear Derek, The place in the suburbs is obviously State Records of NSW, 143 O'Connell Street, Kingswood. You can search their online indexes at www.records.nsw.gov.au. Many of their records, however, are not indexed. You can find information about records relating to convicts at http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/research-topics/convicts For information about when convicts were sent to Port Macquarie, you might find something in the outward letter books of the Colonial Secretary's Office, especially the letters to the Sheriff, which often contains lists of convicts ordered to be sent to various destinations. These letter books have been microfilmed, but the microfilms are available only at State Records. Lawrence was not listed on returns of convicts at Port Macquarie in September and October 1846, because he had a ticket of leave. Regards Clive Clive Smith On 22 May 2013 05:26, Derek & Jean Burr <djburr@westnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi It has been some time since I have been able to get to Sydney to > research > my convict. > > John Lawrence was a Farm servant sentenced to 15 years transportation to > Port Jackson, Sydney for Picking pockets at Gloucester City 22/10/1838 at > age 22. Sailed 31/7/1839 on ship Barossa Arrived 8/12/1839. > Two weeks later, the Australasian Chronicle reported that the convicts who > arrived by the Barossa were removed on Monday 16th December to the Cook's > River station where a new Stockade was being built to house workers to > build > a dam over the river. > > My next record is Ticket of Leave 9/8/1946. Allowed to remain in the > district of Port Macquarie on recommendation of Port Macquarie bench. > (Kempsey was part of Port Macquarie district at that time) > Cancelled in absence from district 6/11/1850 vide government minutes on > list > registration No. 50/3957. Ticket reissued absence explained, Governor > minute > on letter dated 16 April 1851 registered 51/885. His wife's obituary states > he worked as a Stock-Keeper at Lake Innes (Port Macquarie) and afterwards > at > Moparrabah (near Kempsey). A Major Innes owned Lake Innes property. > > My question is how did he get to Port Macquarie. Was he assigned to > someone. > > Many years ago when I visited the NSW library in Sydney I was informed I > would need to go out to the suburbs to another records place to research > where John was assigned. I ran out of time. > Can anyone tell me where this place is to research convict assignments. > > thanks > Derek > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/22/2013 01:58:56
    1. Re: [PJ] Convict John Spires Lawrence
    2. Derek & Jean Burr
    3. Hi It has been some time since I have been able to get to Sydney to research my convict. John Lawrence was a Farm servant sentenced to 15 years transportation to Port Jackson, Sydney for Picking pockets at Gloucester City 22/10/1838 at age 22. Sailed 31/7/1839 on ship Barossa Arrived 8/12/1839. Two weeks later, the Australasian Chronicle reported that the convicts who arrived by the Barossa were removed on Monday 16th December to the Cook's River station where a new Stockade was being built to house workers to build a dam over the river. My next record is Ticket of Leave 9/8/1946. Allowed to remain in the district of Port Macquarie on recommendation of Port Macquarie bench. (Kempsey was part of Port Macquarie district at that time) Cancelled in absence from district 6/11/1850 vide government minutes on list registration No. 50/3957. Ticket reissued absence explained, Governor minute on letter dated 16 April 1851 registered 51/885. His wife's obituary states he worked as a Stock-Keeper at Lake Innes (Port Macquarie) and afterwards at Moparrabah (near Kempsey). A Major Innes owned Lake Innes property. My question is how did he get to Port Macquarie. Was he assigned to someone. Many years ago when I visited the NSW library in Sydney I was informed I would need to go out to the suburbs to another records place to research where John was assigned. I ran out of time. Can anyone tell me where this place is to research convict assignments. thanks Derek

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