thanks laraine, i might try to email him if he has an address, will let you know what happens if any thing. glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laraine Dillon" <lmcd440@hotmail.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > Hi Glenn. > Heffernan from Victoria, I met their relatives in Tipperary they own a > liquor store in the main street his name is Michael Heffernan if it helps. > Laraine > > -----Original Message----- > From: glen & joe > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:53 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > > kath, have you found out any more about the heffernans from victoria? > glen qld > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathl Connors" <con1929@bigpond.com> > To: "'Laraine Dillon'" <lmcd440@hotmail.com>; > <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > > >> Hello Johanna, >> Our ancestors arte Heffernans, >> I will forward your email address on to our brother and a family >> Member in Victoria who are the Heffernans experts >> Kath >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Laraine >> Dillon >> Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2013 3:33 PM >> To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts >> >> I have the Heffernan. Not sure about the Breen name. Is Johanna from >> N.S.W. >> Laraine Dillon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: glen & joe >> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:35 AM >> To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [PJ] convicts >> >> does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? >> or >> the mccooks? >> also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? >> g >> >> ---------------------- >> To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ---------------------- >> To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ---------------------- >> To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a reminder - please delete all the messages apart from the ONE you are answering. We don't need 4 or 5 trailing messages Regards Lesley Uebel List Admin http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au

Hello Glen, Sorry I am so late replying as I have not had time for my favourite Hobby. May I send to you Lyndon Arnold email address in Victoria off line. Brother Barry is nursing a very sick wife and I know Arnold will be of help to you. Kath -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of glen & joe Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:54 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts kath, have you found out any more about the heffernans from victoria? glen qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathl Connors" <con1929@bigpond.com> To: "'Laraine Dillon'" <lmcd440@hotmail.com>; <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > Hello Johanna, > Our ancestors arte Heffernans, > I will forward your email address on to our brother and a family > Member in Victoria who are the Heffernans experts > Kath > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine > Dillon > Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2013 3:33 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > > I have the Heffernan. Not sure about the Breen name. Is Johanna from > N.S.W. > Laraine Dillon > > -----Original Message----- > From: glen & joe > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:35 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] convicts > > does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? or > the mccooks? > also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? > g > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Glenn. Heffernan from Victoria, I met their relatives in Tipperary they own a liquor store in the main street his name is Michael Heffernan if it helps. Laraine -----Original Message----- From: glen & joe Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:53 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts kath, have you found out any more about the heffernans from victoria? glen qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathl Connors" <con1929@bigpond.com> To: "'Laraine Dillon'" <lmcd440@hotmail.com>; <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > Hello Johanna, > Our ancestors arte Heffernans, > I will forward your email address on to our brother and a family > Member in Victoria who are the Heffernans experts > Kath > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine > Dillon > Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2013 3:33 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > > I have the Heffernan. Not sure about the Breen name. Is Johanna from > N.S.W. > Laraine Dillon > > -----Original Message----- > From: glen & joe > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:35 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] convicts > > does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? or > the mccooks? > also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? > g > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

kath, have you found out any more about the heffernans from victoria? glen qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathl Connors" <con1929@bigpond.com> To: "'Laraine Dillon'" <lmcd440@hotmail.com>; <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > Hello Johanna, > Our ancestors arte Heffernans, > I will forward your email address on to our brother and a family > Member in Victoria who are the Heffernans experts > Kath > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine > Dillon > Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2013 3:33 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts > > I have the Heffernan. Not sure about the Breen name. Is Johanna from > N.S.W. > Laraine Dillon > > -----Original Message----- > From: glen & joe > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:35 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] convicts > > does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? or > the mccooks? > also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? > g > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

you sent this to wrong person lesley.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Sarah Hopwood > Jackie > > I hope my reply was of some use? > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel > > http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html > CLAIM A CONVICT > > email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > On 14/06/2013 12:11 PM, Lesley Uebel wrote: >> Hi Jackie >> >> You could check to see if she is listed in the index produced by the >> late Joan Reese "Female Factory Index — Parramatta 1826—1848". This >> microfiche will provide the details necessary for you to check the >> Colonial Secretaries letters available at the State Records at Kingswood. >> > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lesley I had a look at the index when i was in Sydney a few weeks ago. What I was actually hoping to find were more detailed references to what happened during her stay at the factory and how she came to be married to Job Stone also an ex convict. Hers is an interesting story as she was accused of "immoral conduct" while on ticket of leave and put back in the factory where she gave birth 8 months later. TROVE has given me some info but I thought the daily factory records might still exist somewhere. Thanks for your help! Jackie On 17/06/2013, at 6:53 PM, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Jackie > > I hope my reply was of some use? > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel > > http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html > CLAIM A CONVICT > > email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > On 14/06/2013 12:11 PM, Lesley Uebel wrote: >> Hi Jackie >> >> You could check to see if she is listed in the index produced by the >> late Joan Reese "Female Factory Index — Parramatta 1826—1848". This >> microfiche will provide the details necessary for you to check the >> Colonial Secretaries letters available at the State Records at Kingswood. >> > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jackie I hope my reply was of some use? Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 14/06/2013 12:11 PM, Lesley Uebel wrote: > Hi Jackie > > You could check to see if she is listed in the index produced by the > late Joan Reese "Female Factory Index — Parramatta 1826—1848". This > microfiche will provide the details necessary for you to check the > Colonial Secretaries letters available at the State Records at Kingswood. >

Hi Jackie You could check to see if she is listed in the index produced by the late Joan Reese "Female Factory Index — Parramatta 1826—1848". This microfiche will provide the details necessary for you to check the Colonial Secretaries letters available at the State Records at Kingswood. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 14/06/2013 11:55 AM, Jackie Phillips wrote: > Hi everyone > I am new to this and have just started researching my husbands ancestor Sarah Hopwood who arrived in 1835 on the Mary. She was in the Parramatta Women's factory for some time and I am wondering if anyone can tell me how to obtain records of the factory for the period 1835-1842. > I love reading the emails, keep up the great work everyone. > Cheers > > Jackie > > Snipped previous messages

Hi everyone I am new to this and have just started researching my husbands ancestor Sarah Hopwood who arrived in 1835 on the Mary. She was in the Parramatta Women's factory for some time and I am wondering if anyone can tell me how to obtain records of the factory for the period 1835-1842. I love reading the emails, keep up the great work everyone. Cheers Jackie On 14/06/2013, at 7:18 AM, Irelandcrokepark <irelandcrokepark@gmail.com> wrote: > The CSORP is the correspondence sent to and from the Colonial Secretary very similar to the regime in Australia. That archive is in the National Archive in Dublin. The rebellion papers collection is a separate collection to the colonial secretary correspondence. > > Sent from phone > > On 5 May 2013, at 16:59, "valerie williams" <valerie.williams@internode.on.net> wrote: > >> >> >> The rebellion papers in the Irish National Library are different to the >> CSORP in the National Archives. >> >> The Colonial Secretary correspondence is a different collection >> >> FYI >> >> Gerry >> ----------------------- >> I am interested in your reply Gerry. I am not sure what CSORP stands for. >> I presume it is Colonial Secretaries ? Rebellion Papers. Is this correct? >> If so what does the O stand for? >> >> I always read this list as I am able to pick up lots of hints for my own >> research. >> >> I have two Irish Convicts, Robert Aickin/Aiken from County Antrim >> transported on the Martha for stealing four heifers in 1818 and his wife >> Ruth (sometimes Mary) Egan/Eakin nee Gardiner transported from Cove of Cork >> on the Janus in 1819 for passing forged notes. She had been tried in County >> Monaghan and was assigned to her husband Robert Aickin (who had been >> assigned to Captain Piper when he arrived in PJ) on her arrival in Port >> Jackson in 1820. >> >> I know Robert was Presbyterian but I have a feeling she may have been >> christened Catholic, I don’t know why. After Robert died in 1836 she did >> marry again in the Catholic Church, but then it may have been that the >> second husband was Catholic. I hope to one day find the church record of >> her marriage to Robert in Ireland but I don’t really know where to start. >> >> Also thank you Robyn Hogan for your Irish research tips as well Smile >> >> Valerie >> from Mollymook on the south coast of NSW >> >> >> ---------------------- >> To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The CSORP is the correspondence sent to and from the Colonial Secretary very similar to the regime in Australia. That archive is in the National Archive in Dublin. The rebellion papers collection is a separate collection to the colonial secretary correspondence. Sent from phone On 5 May 2013, at 16:59, "valerie williams" <valerie.williams@internode.on.net> wrote: > > > The rebellion papers in the Irish National Library are different to the > CSORP in the National Archives. > > The Colonial Secretary correspondence is a different collection > > FYI > > Gerry > ----------------------- > I am interested in your reply Gerry. I am not sure what CSORP stands for. > I presume it is Colonial Secretaries ? Rebellion Papers. Is this correct? > If so what does the O stand for? > > I always read this list as I am able to pick up lots of hints for my own > research. > > I have two Irish Convicts, Robert Aickin/Aiken from County Antrim > transported on the Martha for stealing four heifers in 1818 and his wife > Ruth (sometimes Mary) Egan/Eakin nee Gardiner transported from Cove of Cork > on the Janus in 1819 for passing forged notes. She had been tried in County > Monaghan and was assigned to her husband Robert Aickin (who had been > assigned to Captain Piper when he arrived in PJ) on her arrival in Port > Jackson in 1820. > > I know Robert was Presbyterian but I have a feeling she may have been > christened Catholic, I don’t know why. After Robert died in 1836 she did > marry again in the Catholic Church, but then it may have been that the > second husband was Catholic. I hope to one day find the church record of > her marriage to Robert in Ireland but I don’t really know where to start. > > Also thank you Robyn Hogan for your Irish research tips as well Smile > > Valerie > from Mollymook on the south coast of NSW > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Johanna, Our ancestors arte Heffernans, I will forward your email address on to our brother and a family Member in Victoria who are the Heffernans experts Kath -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine Dillon Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2013 3:33 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts I have the Heffernan. Not sure about the Breen name. Is Johanna from N.S.W. Laraine Dillon -----Original Message----- From: glen & joe Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:35 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] convicts does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? or the mccooks? also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? g ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi laraine, lovely to hear from you. my gr x3 grandfather - on my mothers side, the caseys - was roger heffernan who married johanna breen in ireland about 1840. got to aust. 1857. his father is michael and that is as far as i have gone. are you related and how. glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laraine Dillon" <lmcd440@hotmail.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] convicts >I have the Heffernan. Not sure about the Breen name. Is Johanna from N.S.W. > Laraine Dillon > > -----Original Message----- > From: glen & joe > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:35 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] convicts > > does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? or > the mccooks? > also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? > g > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the Heffernan. Not sure about the Breen name. Is Johanna from N.S.W. Laraine Dillon -----Original Message----- From: glen & joe Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:35 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] convicts does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? or the mccooks? also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? g ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

does any one have andrew and brother michael warren as their ancestors? or the mccooks? also johanna heffernans sister mary breen? g

Hi everyone, Yesterday, I attended the lunchtime lecture given by Chris Maxworthy. It was very interesting and informative lecture, and I thank him for alerting listers to the event. It was held at the office of the Australian History Society at 133 Macquarie Street, Sydney. They hold an array of artwork depicting very early Darlinghurst and surrounds, which made very interesting viewing, the lecture apart. One such piece is a panorama of the windmills of Sydney that featured in recent discussions on this list. Though not well notated, for interested parties, this may shed some light and thus be worth a trip to see where various windmills were located. Thanks again Chris. Regards, Lee

Hi Bryan, in the 1828 census he is listed as a potter, free by servitude, living in Phillip Street Sydney. William Parrott, Neptune, age 25, free by servitude, mason; his wife Mary, 22, born colony, and daughter Esther 1, are living in Sussex Street. Hope this helps a little. Regards, Natalie

Good day all, I'm wondering if I can have some more information on this man, so I can 'eliminate him from my enquiries'? I have his conviction date, term and place but cannot find any more details online. Would there be Permissions to Marry for any or all of these 3 possibilities on the NSW site (I can find none online): 1796 to Elizabeth Ann JAMES (? d 1814) 1821 to Ann ASHLEY (? d 1823) 1825 to Mary Moore The latter has produced some newspaper reports and there are 2 female children from this marriage. Maybe some from the previous 2 also but not under the Parrott name. There is a James' Parrott death in 1839, age 70. I want to know if we can tell if he had a boy child, named John or James. At this stage I can't see that. It would suit me if he didn't because I've followed another ancestral path, through Wm Parrott, per Neptune, 1818. But I have a brickwall with that line. Co-incidentally enough he seems to have land next to Wm Parrott's (Mary Parrott/Tyrrell). But I think that is a product of land allotment and don't think they have a relationship. One is from Hereford, the other, Nottingham. Any additional bits would be appreciated. Thank you Bryan Chch, NZ

Leslie. I have thought along those lines for many years the first girl born to them here in Australia was Rachel. I searched her as his mother to no avail. The sons were Fredrick, and George (my Great grandfather) then a Daniel. I found a few of those as well but could not connect any. This is a most intriguing story there is a myth about the Fowler millions.. I was said that after Daniel died a brother came out from England to give the family money but when he found out that Bridget his widow was a Catholic nothing came to pass. I have so much correspondence from my Grandmothers cousins who conducted research just before WW2. But nothing in it just suppositions, and a story that the first non catholic to turn up and collect the million won the jackpot no wonder two of the cousins went to England funded by all of the others to find the relatives over there, then war hit and of course ruined everything... can you recommend a good researcher in England please as I know Richard has retired. The money story I am not concerned with I just want to know my family line. several times Daniel was referred to as James, in articles,that struck me that he could have had an Alias. and there was a James Fowler the Mayor of Bristol. Thank you Leslie Laraine -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Uebel Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 3:59 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] brick walls Hi Laraine, As Daniel and Bridget appear to have had a number of female children, it could be that they used the name of his mother for one of the children. Go through each of the girls names on FreeBDM http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl She will probably also be listed in the 1841 and 1851 English Census Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 4/06/2013 9:10 AM, Laraine Dillon wrote: > Hi Lesley, > thank you so much, yes I do have a news report it is only on the arrest, > there were 4 of them, all sales men on a drunken spree, it is said they > passed a counterfeit coin at the turn gate, and broke into a house into a > house. I had Richard Callanan do a lot of research he was good but could > not > identify Daniels parents . Daniel was born between 1808 and 1810, there > are > several Daniel Fowlers born around that time I have ruled out the one in > Bridport, and Daniel Fowler the artist who went to Canada. > Daniel claimed to be born in Stover Bristol which makes sense as his > mother > seemed to be known there. I have found in recent years he was a boatman > for > Fredrick Garling the artist, until Daniel was killed accidently, when some > timbers fell on him. > Its a needle in a haystack, I have an elderly cousin who has spent her > life > on this research I would love to solve it for her. > Laraine > ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Laraine, As Daniel and Bridget appear to have had a number of female children, it could be that they used the name of his mother for one of the children. Go through each of the girls names on FreeBDM http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl She will probably also be listed in the 1841 and 1851 English Census Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 4/06/2013 9:10 AM, Laraine Dillon wrote: > Hi Lesley, > thank you so much, yes I do have a news report it is only on the arrest, > there were 4 of them, all sales men on a drunken spree, it is said they > passed a counterfeit coin at the turn gate, and broke into a house into a > house. I had Richard Callanan do a lot of research he was good but could not > identify Daniels parents . Daniel was born between 1808 and 1810, there are > several Daniel Fowlers born around that time I have ruled out the one in > Bridport, and Daniel Fowler the artist who went to Canada. > Daniel claimed to be born in Stover Bristol which makes sense as his mother > seemed to be known there. I have found in recent years he was a boatman for > Fredrick Garling the artist, until Daniel was killed accidently, when some > timbers fell on him. > Its a needle in a haystack, I have an elderly cousin who has spent her life > on this research I would love to solve it for her. > Laraine >