Laraine, Jordan has posted to this list on a number of occasions. I do not believe it is spam. Steve ________________________________ From: Laraine Dillon <lmcd440@hotmail.com> To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2013, 22:16 Subject: [PJ] jordan Hi List, I have received an email twice from  a person Jordan it goes automatically into my spam, can someone please advise is it spam.  Lara ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to  AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi laraine, this is glen again(another heffernan rel). have you got rody and johannas exact birthdates, marriage and their grandparents names and information? i could use help there if you could. my fingers are crossed for the positve ... thanks glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laraine Dillon" <lmcd440@hotmail.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] John Michael Heffernan > HI Kerry, > I am a Heffernan descendant and have files galore on them, Ireland, > America. > and Australia where did he live was it around Maitland. Victoria or N.S.W > Laraine > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for letting us know Jordan, and thanks to you and all the other volunteers who made this possible. Without your work many of us just wouldn't be able to access such records. I'm very grateful. Kind regards Pam An Aussie transported to Rotorua, NZ At 06:20 p.m. 28-06-2013 +1000, you wrote: >State Records of NSW have had a volunteer project indexing Convict >Pardons. Previously we have been able to search part of the index >(1791-1825, 1837-47) but the project is now complete and you can >search the whole from 1791-1873.

State Records of NSW have had a volunteer project indexing Convict Pardons. Previously we have been able to search part of the index (1791-1825, 1837-47) but the project is now complete and you can search the whole from 1791-1873. This is only an index and you can order a copy of the record from State Records. Information on what is held including a list of abbreviations used see: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-to-convict-records/index-to-convict-pardons/index-to-convict-pardons Direct access to the search facility: http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/searchform.aspx?id=21

Thank Lesley, I understand I don't have replies from several interested parties or email addresses, am communication with Warren off list. Laraine -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Uebel Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:07 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] Kennedy Heffernan etc - Admin Note I think it is time for those interested in these various families to email each other privately. Regards Lesley Uebel Admin email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank You Colin > I think it is time for those interested in these various families to > email each other privately. > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel > > Admin > > > > email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think it is time for those interested in these various families to email each other privately. Regards Lesley Uebel Admin email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au

Hi Laraine, Thank you but I really don't know if my John Michael Heffernan (Snr) was born here or not - I believe he could be the son of Roger/Rody and Johanna Heffernan, who arrived as migrants from Ireland 1857 on Matoaka and settled in the Hawkesbury NSW area but I just don't have the documentation to prove it. I am resending my earlier email of 23/6 in case you didn't see it. As John and Eliza didn't marry, there is no marriage cert to give me details of John's birth, parents etc. The childrens' 3 birth certs don't give any info either, as they say "illegitimate" and are registered under the surname Greenhalgh. It is only from the childrens' marriage and/or death certs (as previously stated at some stage they all started using the Heffernan surname) that I know their father's name and occupations of labourer and railway worker but no other details. Below is my previous enquiry. Thanks, Kerry. I would like to hear from anybody with any information on John Michael Heffernan (my great grandfather). I know from various newspaper articles John lived in Richmond NSW from at least 1876 until late 1881, when he and de facto wife Eliza Greenhalgh (nee Kennedy) left, possibly for inner Sydney (Redfern/Waterloo area). While in Richmond they had 3 children: John Michael (my grandfather 1876-1933), Johanna (1877-1966 married name Henley), Robert Emanuel (1880-1903). These 3 births were registered as Greenhalgh but at some point the children all started using the Heffernan name. Prior to taking up with John Michael Heffernan, Eliza married William Greenhalgh at Castlereagh in 1861. Their children were: Mary, Robert, Donald, Sarah and Sydney. Eliza was born at Nepean approx. 1839/40 to Donald Kennedy and Cecilia Frazer and died 1911 in Newington Asylum. Little is known of John senior, other than occupations labourer and railway work (from children's B D & M certs). Laraine Dillon <lmcd440@hotmail.com> . to me Hi Kerry, I have bits and pieces on Heffernan’s, my Great Grandfather was Michael Heffernan.. so I have files on heaps of them I note one bit of infopr on a John Heffernan or Fermoy Co Cork, could this be him. I have a shops list that I will go over for you and Immigrant ship list or was he a convict.

HI Kerry, I am a Heffernan descendant and have files galore on them, Ireland, America. and Australia where did he live was it around Maitland. Victoria or N.S.W Laraine

Hi Jackie, It is actually me looking for John Michael Heffernan, not Liz. Yes, the 1930 & 1940s are too late for my great grandfather, the Trove articles you refer to are possibly in relation to my grandfather of the same name, if so they are probably the articles I already have. Thanks, Kerry. From: "Jackie Phillips" <jackie@phillipsandfather.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:18 PM To: <lizrose@tpg.com.au>; <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@**rootsweb.com<aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Kennedys Hi Liz > I am new to all this but have had a great deal of success using the TROVE > website. There is a John Michael Heffernan in the newspapers in the 1930s > and 1940s...is this too late for your relative? > Cheers > Jackie >

Hello Kerry and Warren, Maybe its the name "Catherine" that is the problem - we are both searching for info regarding that name!! Did the surname "Greenhalgh" always stay way, or might it have corrupted to "Greenop" - I knew a family with the latter surname many, many years ago. Happy hunting for your Catherine. When the NSW Govt. decided to release all the historical BDM records to the public, probably in the 1960s, they gave the original records to inmates of the Gaols, to give them something useful to do by transcribing the records ready to go onto microfiche. This turned out to be a great debacle, and quite a lot of those early translations are quite incorrect. I have not heard whether the old records were re-transcribed, or we are still stuck with the wrong ones - I suspect the latter, but hope not. I started our family history searches in about 1975, as I can remember leaving my two small children with my mother while I spent a few hours at the Mitchell Library, or at one of the numerous Mormon Libraries, in my case which was in the Lane Cove area. Happy hunting, Elizabeth. On 27/06/2013 2:57 PM, Kerry wrote: > Hello Elizabeth and Warren, > > Yes, I know how frustrating it is to hit these brick walls as I have with > my grt grandfather John Michael Heffernan, who I've been trying to find for > probably the last 10 years now. As I'm pretty sure he and Eliza Greenhalgh > didn't marry there is no certificate and even on the children's birth > certificates there is nothing about him. I have spent many hours trying a > lot of the obscure sources for any little bit of info - last year I reached > saturation point with it but think now I will just have to move on and not > be able to go any further with researching that line. > > The only thing I can tell you about my Catherine Kennedy is that she was > born ca 1793 Sydney, died 20/8/1876 Castlereagh, married 30/3/1815 Patrick > McCann. Her parents were: Donald Kennedy born ca. 1756 Inverness Scotland, > died 9/6/1829 Castlereagh, buried St Patricks R/C Nth Parramatta. He > Arrived 7/10/1792 "Royal Admiral" as a convict. His wife was Ann Grant, > they were married in Inverness, she was born ca. 1770 Inverness, died > 3/5/1827 Castlereagh, buried St Patricks also. > Donald was a soldier in NSW corp and a farmer on his land grant at > Penrith. He was a pioneer of the area so there is lots of information > about him in various places, however I don't know anything more about > Catherine. > > Regards, > Kerry. > > > > > > > > > > > > Elizabeth Walker lizrose@tpg.com.au > via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> > rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13:26 (1 hour ago) > to *Warren*, aus-pt-jackson. > Hello Kerry and Warren, > > The older one gets in life, the easier it is to accept that one can't > have everything. Bother!!! Catherine - I wonder who her Scots > family was - seems to have had an unhappy time in the few years she > spent here. > > I have totally enjoyed all the time and research and world-wide chats > through the "net" with people, who are/could be/may be not/definitely > not... connected to my extended family. Considering how long I have > been researching family history, almost 40 years, I feel I have acquired > a huge amount of information about many, many people to whom I have a > connection, one way or another. Catherine Kennedy is my sole Scots > connection, whereas my children and grandchildren have so much Scots > ancestry through their father and his paternal line, they should have > been born wearing kilts in the MacGregor tartan.!!! > > The biggest surprise for me was to find my Mother's maternal family > came from connections in the Channel Islands, mainly Alderney, and then > back to Normandy in France. I knew about the Channel Island > connections, but not the French. I am so sorry Mum and her Sisters and > Brothers did not survive to enjoy what I have discovered - I'm sure they > could have contributed much more, and they had been told they had French > ancestry, but they didn't know if that was the truth or a fib, so > assumed the latter. > > Miserable damp grey day here - it must be winter!! > > Elizabeth > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Elizabeth and Warren, Yes, I know how frustrating it is to hit these brick walls as I have with my grt grandfather John Michael Heffernan, who I've been trying to find for probably the last 10 years now. As I'm pretty sure he and Eliza Greenhalgh didn't marry there is no certificate and even on the children's birth certificates there is nothing about him. I have spent many hours trying a lot of the obscure sources for any little bit of info - last year I reached saturation point with it but think now I will just have to move on and not be able to go any further with researching that line. The only thing I can tell you about my Catherine Kennedy is that she was born ca 1793 Sydney, died 20/8/1876 Castlereagh, married 30/3/1815 Patrick McCann. Her parents were: Donald Kennedy born ca. 1756 Inverness Scotland, died 9/6/1829 Castlereagh, buried St Patricks R/C Nth Parramatta. He Arrived 7/10/1792 "Royal Admiral" as a convict. His wife was Ann Grant, they were married in Inverness, she was born ca. 1770 Inverness, died 3/5/1827 Castlereagh, buried St Patricks also. Donald was a soldier in NSW corp and a farmer on his land grant at Penrith. He was a pioneer of the area so there is lots of information about him in various places, however I don't know anything more about Catherine. Regards, Kerry. Elizabeth Walker lizrose@tpg.com.au via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> rootsweb.com 13:26 (1 hour ago) to *Warren*, aus-pt-jackson. Hello Kerry and Warren, The older one gets in life, the easier it is to accept that one can't have everything. Bother!!! Catherine - I wonder who her Scots family was - seems to have had an unhappy time in the few years she spent here. I have totally enjoyed all the time and research and world-wide chats through the "net" with people, who are/could be/may be not/definitely not... connected to my extended family. Considering how long I have been researching family history, almost 40 years, I feel I have acquired a huge amount of information about many, many people to whom I have a connection, one way or another. Catherine Kennedy is my sole Scots connection, whereas my children and grandchildren have so much Scots ancestry through their father and his paternal line, they should have been born wearing kilts in the MacGregor tartan.!!! The biggest surprise for me was to find my Mother's maternal family came from connections in the Channel Islands, mainly Alderney, and then back to Normandy in France. I knew about the Channel Island connections, but not the French. I am so sorry Mum and her Sisters and Brothers did not survive to enjoy what I have discovered - I'm sure they could have contributed much more, and they had been told they had French ancestry, but they didn't know if that was the truth or a fib, so assumed the latter. Miserable damp grey day here - it must be winter!! Elizabeth

Hi Liz I am new to all this but have had a great deal of success using the TROVE website. There is a John Michael Heffernan in the newspapers in the 1930s and 1940s...is this too late for your relative? Cheers Jackie On 27 June 2013 13:41, Elizabeth Walker <lizrose@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hello Kerry and Warren, > > Maybe its the name "Catherine" that is the problem - we are both > searching for info regarding that name!! Did the surname "Greenhalgh" > always stay way, or might it have corrupted to "Greenop" - I knew a > family with the latter surname many, many years ago. > > Happy hunting for your Catherine. When the NSW Govt. decided to > release all the historical BDM records to the public, probably in the > 1960s, they gave the original records to inmates of the Gaols, to give > them something useful to do by transcribing the records ready to go onto > microfiche. This turned out to be a great debacle, and quite a lot of > those early translations are quite incorrect. I have not heard > whether the old records were re-transcribed, or we are still stuck with > the wrong ones - I suspect the latter, but hope not. I started our > family history searches in about 1975, as I can remember leaving my two > small children with my mother while I spent a few hours at the Mitchell > Library, or at one of the numerous Mormon Libraries, in my case which > was in the Lane Cove area. > > Happy hunting, > Elizabeth. > > On 27/06/2013 2:57 PM, Kerry wrote: > > Hello Elizabeth and Warren, > > > > Yes, I know how frustrating it is to hit these brick walls as I have with > > my grt grandfather John Michael Heffernan, who I've been trying to find > for > > probably the last 10 years now. As I'm pretty sure he and Eliza > Greenhalgh > > didn't marry there is no certificate and even on the children's birth > > certificates there is nothing about him. I have spent many hours > trying a > > lot of the obscure sources for any little bit of info - last year I > reached > > saturation point with it but think now I will just have to move on and > not > > be able to go any further with researching that line. > > > > The only thing I can tell you about my Catherine Kennedy is that she was > > born ca 1793 Sydney, died 20/8/1876 Castlereagh, married 30/3/1815 > Patrick > > McCann. Her parents were: Donald Kennedy born ca. 1756 Inverness > Scotland, > > died 9/6/1829 Castlereagh, buried St Patricks R/C Nth Parramatta. He > > Arrived 7/10/1792 "Royal Admiral" as a convict. His wife was Ann Grant, > > they were married in Inverness, she was born ca. 1770 Inverness, died > > 3/5/1827 Castlereagh, buried St Patricks also. > > Donald was a soldier in NSW corp and a farmer on his land grant at > > Penrith. He was a pioneer of the area so there is lots of information > > about him in various places, however I don't know anything more about > > Catherine. > > > > Regards, > > Kerry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elizabeth Walker lizrose@tpg.com.au > > via< > http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182 > > > > rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13:26 (1 hour ago) > > to *Warren*, aus-pt-jackson. > > Hello Kerry and Warren, > > > > The older one gets in life, the easier it is to accept that one can't > > have everything. Bother!!! Catherine - I wonder who her Scots > > family was - seems to have had an unhappy time in the few years she > > spent here. > > > > I have totally enjoyed all the time and research and world-wide chats > > through the "net" with people, who are/could be/may be not/definitely > > not... connected to my extended family. Considering how long I have > > been researching family history, almost 40 years, I feel I have acquired > > a huge amount of information about many, many people to whom I have a > > connection, one way or another. Catherine Kennedy is my sole Scots > > connection, whereas my children and grandchildren have so much Scots > > ancestry through their father and his paternal line, they should have > > been born wearing kilts in the MacGregor tartan.!!! > > > > The biggest surprise for me was to find my Mother's maternal family > > came from connections in the Channel Islands, mainly Alderney, and then > > back to Normandy in France. I knew about the Channel Island > > connections, but not the French. I am so sorry Mum and her Sisters and > > Brothers did not survive to enjoy what I have discovered - I'm sure they > > could have contributed much more, and they had been told they had French > > ancestry, but they didn't know if that was the truth or a fib, so > > assumed the latter. > > > > Miserable damp grey day here - it must be winter!! > > > > Elizabeth > > > > ---------------------- > > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Kerry and Warren, The older one gets in life, the easier it is to accept that one can't have everything. Bother!!! Catherine - I wonder who her Scots family was - seems to have had an unhappy time in the few years she spent here. I have totally enjoyed all the time and research and world-wide chats through the "net" with people, who are/could be/may be not/definitely not... connected to my extended family. Considering how long I have been researching family history, almost 40 years, I feel I have acquired a huge amount of information about many, many people to whom I have a connection, one way or another. Catherine Kennedy is my sole Scots connection, whereas my children and grandchildren have so much Scots ancestry through their father and his paternal line, they should have been born wearing kilts in the MacGregor tartan.!!! The biggest surprise for me was to find my Mother's maternal family came from connections in the Channel Islands, mainly Alderney, and then back to Normandy in France. I knew about the Channel Island connections, but not the French. I am so sorry Mum and her Sisters and Brothers did not survive to enjoy what I have discovered - I'm sure they could have contributed much more, and they had been told they had French ancestry, but they didn't know if that was the truth or a fib, so assumed the latter. Miserable damp grey day here - it must be winter!! Elizabeth On 27/06/2013 12:00 PM, Kerry wrote: > Hello Elizabeth and Warren, > > After properly reading your email below, I've had a look at the information > I have on my Kennedys and can't find anything that would link them to each > other. > > Regards, > Kerry. > > > > > > > > > >

Sorry if this is a duplication, not sure if it went through okay the first time, so am forwarding it again. Kerry. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kerry <k4.history@gmail.com> Date: 27 June 2013 12:00 Subject: Catherine Kennedy etc. To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Hello Elizabeth and Warren, After properly reading your email below, I've had a look at the information I have on my Kennedys and can't find anything that would link them to each other. Regards, Kerry. Elizabeth Walker lizrose@tpg.com.au via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> rootsweb.com 25 Jun (2 days ago) to aus-pt-jackson., Warren Good morning Kerry via Warren, The Catherine Kennedy from whom I descend, married William Marjoram, my convict from Suffolk, and she came from Scotland as an immigrant, not Ireland as a convict. I have it on one of her documents that she was a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. One of our neighbours when I was growing up was a Mr. Kennedy, and he was, at that time, the head of the Scots Kennedy Clan in NSW - I believe Ayreshire is the home of the Kennedy Clan in Scotland. Catherine Kennedy and William Marjoram were married in a Church of England Ceremony in 1846 at Green Swamp, an area between Sofala and Bathurst I think, and they were my father's gt.grandparents, through their daughter Frances who married John Hogan at Lucknow, and he was the son of the convict Denis Hogan from Tipperary, Ireland, and Denis's wife Margaret Carey also from somewhere in Ireland , who came here under a scheme to bring more girls to a settlement overloaded with males. There is a very good book written about this scheme, and lots of girls names are in it. William Marjoram left Catherine some time after 1849 when their second child, Robert was born, and Catherine Marjoram died in Moreton Bay General Hospital in Brisbane in 1853, and is buried in an unmarked grave in the old Moreton Bay Cemetery. The children, Frances and Robert, were put into care of some sort, but separated from each other, and did not meet again until they were adults, somewhere around the NSW Central Tablelands goldfields. Frances Hogan nee Marjoram, was my father's grandmother, and he and his sisters spoke very lovingly about her - Frances, besides being the mother of 12 children of whom most survived, became a mid-wife and nurse on the goldfields around Forest Reefs, and I have wondered over the years how many families have her to thank, for her care and attention. My grandfather James Hogan was born at "Lumpy Swamp" (don't you love the names of swamps :-) ) near Carcoar and his mother Frances wrote the most loving post cards to my father and his sisters, all b. NSW around Blayney, Wellington, Carcoar, and lived on many goldfields on the NSW tablelands, and also Kalgoorlie in WA, in their young lives, but eventually ended up living in Sydney, around the Willoughby/Chatswood area. I have a book here which was given to my father by a school teacher, Mr. Sam Bromley, at Chatswood Public School, some time before the beginning of WWl, and Mr. Bromley was still teaching, this time at Willoughby Public School, when I was there at the end of WWll. Its a small world, when you think about it. Liz.

Hello Elizabeth and Warren, After properly reading your email below, I've had a look at the information I have on my Kennedys and can't find anything that would link them to each other. Regards, Kerry. Elizabeth Walker lizrose@tpg.com.au via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> rootsweb.com 25 Jun (2 days ago) to aus-pt-jackson., Warren Good morning Kerry via Warren, The Catherine Kennedy from whom I descend, married William Marjoram, my convict from Suffolk, and she came from Scotland as an immigrant, not Ireland as a convict. I have it on one of her documents that she was a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. One of our neighbours when I was growing up was a Mr. Kennedy, and he was, at that time, the head of the Scots Kennedy Clan in NSW - I believe Ayreshire is the home of the Kennedy Clan in Scotland. Catherine Kennedy and William Marjoram were married in a Church of England Ceremony in 1846 at Green Swamp, an area between Sofala and Bathurst I think, and they were my father's gt.grandparents, through their daughter Frances who married John Hogan at Lucknow, and he was the son of the convict Denis Hogan from Tipperary, Ireland, and Denis's wife Margaret Carey also from somewhere in Ireland , who came here under a scheme to bring more girls to a settlement overloaded with males. There is a very good book written about this scheme, and lots of girls names are in it. William Marjoram left Catherine some time after 1849 when their second child, Robert was born, and Catherine Marjoram died in Moreton Bay General Hospital in Brisbane in 1853, and is buried in an unmarked grave in the old Moreton Bay Cemetery. The children, Frances and Robert, were put into care of some sort, but separated from each other, and did not meet again until they were adults, somewhere around the NSW Central Tablelands goldfields. Frances Hogan nee Marjoram, was my father's grandmother, and he and his sisters spoke very lovingly about her - Frances, besides being the mother of 12 children of whom most survived, became a mid-wife and nurse on the goldfields around Forest Reefs, and I have wondered over the years how many families have her to thank, for her care and attention. My grandfather James Hogan was born at "Lumpy Swamp" (don't you love the names of swamps :-) ) near Carcoar and his mother Frances wrote the most loving post cards to my father and his sisters, all b. NSW around Blayney, Wellington, Carcoar, and lived on many goldfields on the NSW tablelands, and also Kalgoorlie in WA, in their young lives, but eventually ended up living in Sydney, around the Willoughby/Chatswood area. I have a book here which was given to my father by a school teacher, Mr. Sam Bromley, at Chatswood Public School, some time before the beginning of WWl, and Mr. Bromley was still teaching, this time at Willoughby Public School, when I was there at the end of WWll. Its a small world, when you think about it. Liz.

Elizabeth Walker lizrose@tpg.com.au via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> rootsweb.com 12:39 (21 hours ago) to aus-pt-jackson., Warren Hi Liz, Thanks for all that info - I haven't had a chance to digest it all properly yet, but will do and get back to you with anything I think you may find helpful. Just quickly off the top of my head my Donald Kennedy was from Inverness. Will be in touch further later, Kerry. Good morning Kerry via Warren, The Catherine Kennedy from whom I descend, married William Marjoram, my convict from Suffolk, and she came from Scotland as an immigrant, not Ireland as a convict. I have it on one of her documents that she was a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. One of our neighbours when I was growing up was a Mr. Kennedy, and he was, at that time, the head of the Scots Kennedy Clan in NSW - I believe Ayreshire is the home of the Kennedy Clan in Scotland. Catherine Kennedy and William Marjoram were married in a Church of England Ceremony in 1846 at Green Swamp, an area between Sofala and Bathurst I think, and they were my father's gt.grandparents, through their daughter Frances who married John Hogan at Lucknow, and he was the son of the convict Denis Hogan from Tipperary, Ireland, and Denis's wife Margaret Carey also from somewhere in Ireland , who came here under a scheme to bring more girls to a settlement overloaded with males. There is a very good book written about this scheme, and lots of girls names are in it. William Marjoram left Catherine some time after 1849 when their second child, Robert was born, and Catherine Marjoram died in Moreton Bay General Hospital in Brisbane in 1853, and is buried in an unmarked grave in the old Moreton Bay Cemetery. The children, Frances and Robert, were put into care of some sort, but separated from each other, and did not meet again until they were adults, somewhere around the NSW Central Tablelands goldfields. Frances Hogan nee Marjoram, was my father's grandmother, and he and his sisters spoke very lovingly about her - Frances, besides being the mother of 12 children of whom most survived, became a mid-wife and nurse on the goldfields around Forest Reefs, and I have wondered over the years how many families have her to thank, for her care and attention. My grandfather James Hogan was born at "Lumpy Swamp" (don't you love the names of swamps :-) ) near Carcoar and his mother Frances wrote the most loving post cards to my father and his sisters, all b. NSW around Blayney, Wellington, Carcoar, and lived on many goldfields on the NSW tablelands, and also Kalgoorlie in WA, in their young lives, but eventually ended up living in Sydney, around the Willoughby/Chatswood area. I have a book here which was given to my father by a school teacher, Mr. Sam Bromley, at Chatswood Public School, some time before the beginning of WWl, and Mr. Bromley was still teaching, this time at Willoughby Public School, when I was there at the end of WWll. Its a small world, when you think about it. Liz.

Good morning Kerry via Warren, The Catherine Kennedy from whom I descend, married William Marjoram, my convict from Suffolk, and she came from Scotland as an immigrant, not Ireland as a convict. I have it on one of her documents that she was a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. One of our neighbours when I was growing up was a Mr. Kennedy, and he was, at that time, the head of the Scots Kennedy Clan in NSW - I believe Ayreshire is the home of the Kennedy Clan in Scotland. Catherine Kennedy and William Marjoram were married in a Church of England Ceremony in 1846 at Green Swamp, an area between Sofala and Bathurst I think, and they were my father's gt.grandparents, through their daughter Frances who married John Hogan at Lucknow, and he was the son of the convict Denis Hogan from Tipperary, Ireland, and Denis's wife Margaret Carey also from somewhere in Ireland , who came here under a scheme to bring more girls to a settlement overloaded with males. There is a very good book written about this scheme, and lots of girls names are in it. William Marjoram left Catherine some time after 1849 when their second child, Robert was born, and Catherine Marjoram died in Moreton Bay General Hospital in Brisbane in 1853, and is buried in an unmarked grave in the old Moreton Bay Cemetery. The children, Frances and Robert, were put into care of some sort, but separated from each other, and did not meet again until they were adults, somewhere around the NSW Central Tablelands goldfields. Frances Hogan nee Marjoram, was my father's grandmother, and he and his sisters spoke very lovingly about her - Frances, besides being the mother of 12 children of whom most survived, became a mid-wife and nurse on the goldfields around Forest Reefs, and I have wondered over the years how many families have her to thank, for her care and attention. My grandfather James Hogan was born at "Lumpy Swamp" (don't you love the names of swamps :-) ) near Carcoar and his mother Frances wrote the most loving post cards to my father and his sisters, all b. NSW around Blayney, Wellington, Carcoar, and lived on many goldfields on the NSW tablelands, and also Kalgoorlie in WA, in their young lives, but eventually ended up living in Sydney, around the Willoughby/Chatswood area. I have a book here which was given to my father by a school teacher, Mr. Sam Bromley, at Chatswood Public School, some time before the beginning of WWl, and Mr. Bromley was still teaching, this time at Willoughby Public School, when I was there at the end of WWll. Its a small world, when you think about it. Liz. On 25/06/2013 10:02 AM, Kerry wrote:

Hi Warren, Okay, good luck, yes for many years now I've been looking for my John Heffernan Snr the same way - hope you have more success than me. Mind you, I think I know the family he was descended from (Roger & Johanna Heffernan arrived 1857 from Ireland on Matoaka) but just can't prove the connection. I will look further into my information that I have to see if I can shed any more light on Catherine Kennedy for you. Regards, Kerry. wdiggins@aol.com via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> rootsweb.com to aus-pt-jackson. Hi Kerry, I don't have a Catherine Kennedy in my line. I am just trying to help Liz track down her Catherine Kennedy, who died in Brisbane in early 1853. Records indicate that this Catherine was born about 1810. The Catherine Kennedy convicts have been researched. I am looking at all possibilities / longshots etc. Regards, Warren

Good morning Warren, I made a note from something that I found years ago, that the Catherine Kennedy married to William Marjoram might have also been known as Kate. And, another note, that she declared to Authorities that she was baptised in the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. One of our neighbours when I was growing up, was Don Kennedy, who worked for Film Australia, and he was the Head of the Scots "Kennedy Clan" here in NSW. I have presumed that you descend from William's brother Robert jnr. If you do, did you know that when Robert Marjoram, William and Robert jnr's father, after he served his sentence here, went back to Suffolk, attended his son Robert's marriage to Lydia Moss, and then paid the fares for Robert and Lydia to come here, and *then* Robert Marjoram snr. came back here with his wife Frances, and they came 1st class on another ship. Of the 10 children Robert snr. and Frances had, twin boys died about 2 months old - they did not die on the same day. I'll have to look up some notes Ann Pilgrim sent me, and let you know when all William's siblings were bapt. On the 1851 Census for Suffolk, re Frances Marjoram nee Crowe, her occupation was "Nurse". When she came to Australia after Robert snr had completed his sentence, she went on nursing and acting as a midwife to the families around Meadow Flat and the local gold-fields. All for now, Liz. On 25/06/2013 8:44 AM, wdiggins@aol.com wrote: > Hi Kerry, > > I don't have a Catherine Kennedy in my line. I am just trying to help > Liz track down her Catherine Kennedy, who died in Brisbane in early > 1853. Records indicate that this Catherine was born about 1810. The > Catherine Kennedy convicts have been researched. I am looking at all > possibilities / longshots etc. > > Regards, Warren > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kerry <k4.history@gmail.com> > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 7:47 > Subject: [PJ] Fwd: Heffernan and Harris > > > Hi Warren, > > It's possible of course, but it seems like a longshot as there must be > many > Catherine Kennedys, Kennedy is such a common name. Is there something > about my Catherine Kennedy that makes you think it could be yours? > > Kerry. > > > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >