Quick question. I was looking through the Third Fleet indents on Ancestry, then later I believe under a different category found an entirely different document, with apparently the same information recorded. I understand that in the case of this fleet, the 'indents' are a list of anticipated convicts with subsequent additions and deletions. However, is there more than one source of indents? What is the ideal place to uncover whether more than one set of records exist (I.e. is there a source describing the various primary records and where they are held?) I'm not searching for a specific person, I've just become extremely interested in this and earlier fleets! Thanks as always, Matt Sent from my iPhone

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Thanks you Lesley and list for your help and advice. Myself and my dyslexic keyboard both acknowledge the corrections. Regards, Barbara.

That subject heading should, of course read Atlas not Atlass and more especially Atlas I (1). It was the first voyage of this transport to arrive in PJ. Another transport of the same name (Atlas II) arrived a few months later in October 1802. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 31/08/2013 8:33 AM, Lesley Uebel wrote: > HI Barbara, > > Someone has claimed him on my website although I have not checked to see > if that email address is still current. > > It appears as though Richard was transported to VDL from PJ in 1806 > although I can nothing that states exactly when that happened. The next > record of him is in 1811 when he was given a land grant in VDL and also > stating that his secondary term had expired. > > > Regards >

HI Barbara, Someone has claimed him on my website although I have not checked to see if that email address is still current. It appears as though Richard was transported to VDL from PJ in 1806 although I can nothing that states exactly when that happened. The next record of him is in 1811 when he was given a land grant in VDL and also stating that his secondary term had expired. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 30/08/2013 4:31 PM, Barbara Corrigan wrote: > Hello List, > > Is anyone else researching this man or his family? I would especially like to discover when he left NSW and when he arrived in Tasmania. Any help appreciated. > > Barbara Corrigan (Canberra ACT, Australia). >

Which 1802 Atlas? Robyn

Hi Barbara, Check this website :- www.OzTroys.com then go to the page headed - The Tasmanian Troys. Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Corrigan" <barcor@harboursat.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 4:31 PM Subject: [PJ] convict Richard Troy per Atlass 1802 > Hello List, > > Is anyone else researching this man or his family? I would especially > like to discover when he left NSW and when he arrived in Tasmania. Any > help appreciated. > > Barbara Corrigan (Canberra ACT, Australia). > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List, Is anyone else researching this man or his family? I would especially like to discover when he left NSW and when he arrived in Tasmania. Any help appreciated. Barbara Corrigan (Canberra ACT, Australia).

Hi Charlotte I would say not. Given that he was born about 1830 and the last 5 with that name arrived in 1838 were all adults. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 26/08/2013 3:17 PM, Charlotte Smith wrote: > Hi all, > > JAMES DAVIS. I dont know if he was a convict or not . His daughter, Sarah Jane Davis, birth registration 1865, states his age as 35 years and birthplace Plymouth, England. Is he anywhere on any convict lists? > Hoping someone can help; > > Regards, > Charlotte

Hi all, JAMES DAVIS. I dont know if he was a convict or not . His daughter, Sarah Jane Davis, birth registration 1865, states his age as 35 years and birthplace Plymouth, England. Is he anywhere on any convict lists? Hoping someone can help; Regards, Charlotte

Thanks Ray and Lesley for your info. Yes, he was with the 80th regiment, then joined the NSW mounted police the year after he arrived. It was such a thrill to finally find the name of his ship! Sandra S. > Today's Topics: > > 1. Convict ship Susan (Sandra Sangster)

Hello Leslie, Is this the same 'Susan' that carried free settlers from Ireland to NSW in late 1839, arriving February 1840? Dianne > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:38:44 +1000 > From: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] Convict ship Susan > > Hi Sandra > > The Susan (3) actually carried convicts to VDL arriving on the 21 > November 1837 - they were all offloaded in VDL. This same vessel then > married about 11 convicts from VDL to PJ arriving 24 December 1837 - > most of these men had been transported to VDL on other ships and the > majority of them had been originally convicted in places such as > Barbados and Trinidad. The newspaper of the time state that the crew > were of the 80th Regiment. > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel > > http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html > CLAIM A CONVICT > > email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > On 21/08/2013 2:40 PM, Sandra Sangster wrote: > > > > I have just been sent an old newspaper site which has provided me with some great information about my gg-grandfather. > > I knew he arrived in PJ c1836 as a soldier on board a convict ship. Now I have found the ship, thanks to an article re his death. > > > > Susan (3) arrived PJ 23 December 1837. > > > > I have searched but can't locate any details about the soldiers on the ship. Will I find mention of these men anywhere? There is a list of the convicts, but not the soldiers. > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > Sandra S. > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's fine Kerry, With names as reasonably common, there are many times I have thought I had the correct ones, only to find I had not! All part of the game. Best wishes, Elizabeth On 27/06/2013 12:46 PM, Kerry wrote: > Sorry if this is a duplication, not sure if it went through okay the first > time, so am forwarding it again. > > Kerry. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kerry <k4.history@gmail.com> > Date: 27 June 2013 12:00 > Subject: Catherine Kennedy etc. > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > > > Hello Elizabeth and Warren, > > After properly reading your email below, I've had a look at the information > I have on my Kennedys and can't find anything that would link them to each > other. > > Regards, > Kerry. > > > > > > > Elizabeth Walker lizrose@tpg.com.au > via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=1311182> > rootsweb.com > 25 Jun (2 days ago) > to aus-pt-jackson., Warren > Good morning Kerry via Warren, > > The Catherine Kennedy from whom I descend, married William Marjoram, my > convict from Suffolk, and she came from Scotland as an immigrant, not > Ireland as a convict. I have it on one of her documents that she was > a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland. One of our > neighbours when I was growing up was a Mr. Kennedy, and he was, at that > time, the head of the Scots Kennedy Clan in NSW - I believe Ayreshire is > the home of the Kennedy Clan in Scotland. > > Catherine Kennedy and William Marjoram were married in a Church of > England Ceremony in 1846 at Green Swamp, an area between Sofala and > Bathurst I think, and they were my father's gt.grandparents, through > their daughter Frances who married John Hogan at Lucknow, and he was the > son of the convict Denis Hogan from Tipperary, Ireland, and Denis's wife > Margaret Carey also from somewhere in Ireland , who came here under a > scheme to bring more girls to a settlement overloaded with males. > There is a very good book written about this scheme, and lots of girls > names are in it. > > William Marjoram left Catherine some time after 1849 when their second > child, Robert was born, and Catherine Marjoram died in Moreton Bay > General Hospital in Brisbane in 1853, and is buried in an unmarked grave > in the old Moreton Bay Cemetery. The children, Frances and Robert, > were put into care of some sort, but separated from each other, and did > not meet again until they were adults, somewhere around the NSW Central > Tablelands goldfields. > > Frances Hogan nee Marjoram, was my father's grandmother, and he and his > sisters spoke very lovingly about her - Frances, besides being the > mother of 12 children of whom most survived, became a mid-wife and > nurse on the goldfields around Forest Reefs, and I have wondered over > the years how many families have her to thank, for her care and > attention. My grandfather James Hogan was born at "Lumpy Swamp" (don't > you love the names of swamps :-) ) near Carcoar and his mother Frances > wrote the most loving post cards to my father and his sisters, all b. > NSW around Blayney, Wellington, Carcoar, and lived on many goldfields on > the NSW tablelands, and also Kalgoorlie in WA, in their young lives, but > eventually ended up living in Sydney, around the Willoughby/Chatswood > area. I have a book here which was given to my father by a school > teacher, Mr. Sam Bromley, at Chatswood Public School, some time before > the beginning of WWl, and Mr. Bromley was still teaching, this time at > Willoughby Public School, when I was there at the end of WWll. > > Its a small world, when you think about it. > > Liz. > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Sandra The Susan (3) actually carried convicts to VDL arriving on the 21 November 1837 - they were all offloaded in VDL. This same vessel then married about 11 convicts from VDL to PJ arriving 24 December 1837 - most of these men had been transported to VDL on other ships and the majority of them had been originally convicted in places such as Barbados and Trinidad. The newspaper of the time state that the crew were of the 80th Regiment. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au On 21/08/2013 2:40 PM, Sandra Sangster wrote: > > I have just been sent an old newspaper site which has provided me with some great information about my gg-grandfather. > I knew he arrived in PJ c1836 as a soldier on board a convict ship. Now I have found the ship, thanks to an article re his death. > > Susan (3) arrived PJ 23 December 1837. > > I have searched but can't locate any details about the soldiers on the ship. Will I find mention of these men anywhere? There is a list of the convicts, but not the soldiers. > > Any help appreciated. > > Sandra S. >

Susan, Try this site: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/shipsthe28th.htm *"** **Susan** *<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/susan.htm> *"* * left Port of London on 23 Sept 1835 and arrived in Sydney on 12 Feb 1836 * *GREEN George*<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/greengeo.htm> *TIGHE Robert*<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/tighe.htm> *WINDRIDGE Samuel*<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/windridge.htm> *McDONNELL Christopher<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/Christopher%20Mcdonnell.htm> * and *Australia's Red Coat Settlers* http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/ Cheers Ray On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Sandra Sangster <sandsang@hotmail.com>wrote: > > I have just been sent an old newspaper site which has provided me with > some great information about my gg-grandfather. > I knew he arrived in PJ c1836 as a soldier on board a convict ship. Now I > have found the ship, thanks to an article re his death. > > Susan (3) arrived PJ 23 December 1837. > > I have searched but can't locate any details about the soldiers on the > ship. Will I find mention of these men anywhere? There is a list of the > convicts, but not the soldiers. > > Any help appreciated. > > Sandra S. > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have just been sent an old newspaper site which has provided me with some great information about my gg-grandfather. I knew he arrived in PJ c1836 as a soldier on board a convict ship. Now I have found the ship, thanks to an article re his death. Susan (3) arrived PJ 23 December 1837. I have searched but can't locate any details about the soldiers on the ship. Will I find mention of these men anywhere? There is a list of the convicts, but not the soldiers. Any help appreciated. Sandra S.

Sorry, It thought it was spam. Please close the thread on "first fleeters validation" Mervyn Holmes-Holding On 16 August 2013 17:18, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi all > > As this has nothing to do with PJ convicts please do not add to the thread. > > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel List Admin > > http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html > CLAIM A CONVICT > > email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all As this has nothing to do with PJ convicts please do not add to the thread. Regards Lesley Uebel List Admin http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >

Liz, Lake Macquarie seems like a twit. Maybe laughing at his/her own jokes. Self entertainment I guess. As far as I am concern, this forum subject that I opened is CLOSED. In respect to the normal people it seems that this subject has been raided by the joker. Please do not respond to this subject anymore as it will go direct to my spam mail. Cheers and thankyou very much for your help. Bye On 16 August 2013 12:11, Elizabeth Walker <lizrose@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Good afternoon all, > > My paternal grandmother, Adeline Hogan nee Newstead, was born at Brown's > Creek near Blayney, the 9th child in a family of 11 children, 5 boys and > 6 girls. According to her daughter, my Aunt Frances, Adeline's father > Ben Newstead and her mother Mary Ann nee Marshall could not decide on a > name for her, and during this time an Afghan salesman came by, and he > was the one who selected the name Adeline. > > My Aunt was named after her paternal grandmother, Frances Marjoram nee > Crowe from Bredfield, near Ufford in Suffolk - the wife of Robert > Marjoram and mother of William Marjoram, two of my three convicts. > Denis Hogan from Tipperary, was the third convict. > > I imagine this salesman was just one of a number of Afghans who came > with camels sometime in the 1800s, brought here by someone to help > travellers and explorers open up the vast interior of Australia. > > Lovely sunny day, but very nippy! > > Liz. > Lake Macquarie. > > > > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good afternoon all, My paternal grandmother, Adeline Hogan nee Newstead, was born at Brown's Creek near Blayney, the 9th child in a family of 11 children, 5 boys and 6 girls. According to her daughter, my Aunt Frances, Adeline's father Ben Newstead and her mother Mary Ann nee Marshall could not decide on a name for her, and during this time an Afghan salesman came by, and he was the one who selected the name Adeline. My Aunt was named after her paternal grandmother, Frances Marjoram nee Crowe from Bredfield, near Ufford in Suffolk - the wife of Robert Marjoram and mother of William Marjoram, two of my three convicts. Denis Hogan from Tipperary, was the third convict. I imagine this salesman was just one of a number of Afghans who came with camels sometime in the 1800s, brought here by someone to help travellers and explorers open up the vast interior of Australia. Lovely sunny day, but very nippy! Liz. Lake Macquarie.