Hi Michelle & Listers Welcome to the admin duties of the lists. Along with everyone else I would like to pass on my thanks to Lesley and my thoughts are with Lesley and her family. With 2013, whilst I haven’t broken down any brick walls, I have been entering my family tree onto Ancestry, rather than just upload the Gedcom, I have been doing it manually and it has been a good exercise as I’ve been cross referencing my research, have filled in a lot of gaps and found a couple of errors. Have had a couple of distant cousins (USA & UK) contact so we’ve been able to complete some missing details. Wish everyone a healthy and prosperous 2014 Lynne Central Coast NSW

May I join everyone else in offering my sympathies to Lesley and Colin in this terrible situation. Also my thanks to Michelle for taking over as administrator. Ian Morris -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of aus-pt-jackson-convicts-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013 7:01 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 185 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Tribute to Lesley (Jan Koperberg) 2. Helen Stevenson in NZ (Helen Stevenson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:38:07 +1100 From: "Jan Koperberg" <j.koperberg@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [PJ] Tribute to Lesley To: "AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com" <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <FABEAE6DB9DD4DBAA50CE8577C7C6723@UserPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Very good of you to take over as Administrator of both the Port Jackson and Hawkesbury mailing lists Michelle. I am sure Lesley would be pleased to see them in good hands. Kind regards Jan Koperberg -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Nichols Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:22 AM To: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] Tribute to Lesley The news of Lesley's illness has been a shock to many of us on the Port Jackson and Hawkesbury mailing lists. We are all aware of Lesley's dedication to family history and the help she has generously given to many. At her special request, I have taken over as Administrator of both of these lists. As a tribute to Lesley Uebel, let us continue our family history research and keep both of these lists active. In regards to Lesley's website, "Claim a Convict" which is no longer accessible online, there have been discussions with her friend Coralie and her husband Colin, re future plans. Work is happening behind the scenes to ensure her work is not lost. We will keep you posted. Michelle Nichols ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:55:48 +1300 From: Helen Stevenson <bhstevenson@me.com> Subject: [PJ] Helen Stevenson in NZ To: "aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com" <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4D0AD15E-2066-455D-B4C3-333B7E9ABBCB@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To Lesley - I always assumed you would be there for me in my family search forever. I have never met you, but have always known I could call on you for your assistance in my research. I am so very grateful and thank you for your knowledge, patience and good sense in every query you have been asked to answer. You have many friends who are thinking of you at this moment. Helen Stevenson in Nelson, New Zealand ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS mailing list, send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 185 *******************************************************

Dear List, The discussion on keeping research couldn't have come at a more appropriate time for me. I have only just rejoined the list because of a computer problem.(My other email address disappeared )In October last year I suffered a GCC (Great computer Crash) and lost all my data on my hard drive when it "Fried". I think the technical term is burnt out. I had not backed anything up externally and except for a small amount of data I had kept on a thumb drive for another organisation I belong to, everything went. To cut a long story short three months and over a thousand dollars later a data recovery firm retrieved my photos and most of my files. I bought a new computer and thought I could reconstruct my family tree material using the original Reunion disk. NO. The latest Apple OS system "does not support" a third party disk or so it said. I'm contacting the people I bought the program from to see what I can do. Luckily any of the details I had stored on Ancestry.com were not lost, The moral of this story is always back up your data externally every day. I do now. As well as others have suggested I'm exploring ways of replicating my records both digitally and in written form. Its great to be back on the list and I'm looking forward to reading all your interesting posts and learning more about.   Julie On Thursday, 2 January 2014 8:55 AM, Lisa Apfel <apfel1@bigpond.com> wrote: Listers, In our constantly changing world I find it is the hardest thing to know where to store my data. I don't agree with having to subscribe to websites such as Ancestry and Genes Reunited etc and believe if you wish to publish it should either be made freely available or available to purchase from the researcher, not a web host! Back to where to store the information we have gathered though. I have gone from paper, to floppy discs, to cd's, to memory sticks, to external hard drives and most recently "the Cloud". I don't know if this is the correct approach and it doesn't help with storing original material that I have inherited or generated such as photos, certificates and a family bible. These I have taken some digital copies of but the originals need proper archiving. We really do need to be experts in so many areas, from a historian, a researcher, a technology guru to even an archivist- what a hobby we have all undertaken. Lisa > On 1 Jan 2014, at 17:53, "maxban1938@yahoo.com.au" <maxban1938@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > natural disasters, wars etc. > It initially cost me about $20.00 to join and having been a member for about > five years now only costs about $15.00 as they give a small loyalty discount ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike and other PJers who have joined the topic. This sure is something to think about. I came close to losing about 20 years research and all that goes with it when fires hit the ACT in the early 2000s. My way of overcoming that side of it at least was to self publish a series of books on both my own families and my wife's family and have digitised copies of all books on CD. I also have backed up the digitised family histories, notes, photos etc on a second computer, as well as on a couple of removable hard drives that are easy to rescue. Ideally, one copy should be stored at a separate location. However, this does not take care of the many files and reams of hard copy, original photos etc. Hopefully someone will want to acquire them when I eventually fall off my twig, as you succinctly described Mike. Regards Ron Norton -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harvey Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:11 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] Always keep a copy of your research or publish it all

Hi John, Mail family from Parramatta, 1860s? On 1 January 2014 14:31, Jennifer Bell <jaznjjj@gmail.com> wrote: > How depressing! I am fortunate that my daughter is willing to take it on > - we are working jointly on some projects My daughter-in-law also comes > from a family which values family history so no worries there. While I am > not planning to fall off the perch soon, at the moment someone else wishing > to continue my research would find it a challenge. To try to overcome that, > I am in the process of re-arranging my files so that a stranger could pick > up a folder related to a particular individual or family and know exactly > where my research is up to. Very much a work in progress. > > I love the idea of a genealogical will! > > > > > On 1 January 2014 14:11, Mike Harvey <mj_harvey@dodo.com.au> wrote: > >> This is very sad but good lesson for all. >> >> >> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/bayswater-fire-destroys-genealogist-horst-blaichs-lifetime-of-work/story-fngnvlxu-1226773412995?sv=ff975feb5f10 >> >> >> This loss needed not to happen if just a little thought ( all right, a >> lot >> of thought) and effort had been put into placing your research some where >> safe and making sure that it will be preserved for future generations. >> >> A recent death of a fellow researcher and what happened to her research >> made me think. >> >> When you think about the hours, and in some cases, years, you put into >> gathering your research would you like to lose it suddenly? >> >> Have you thought about what will happen to your research if, heaven >> forbid, >> you fall of your twig unexpectedly? >> Will your heirs treasure your work and place it where it will be >> appreciated?....... >> Or will they just send it to the dump as rubbish, as hers did, >> along with all those precious, but uncatalogued and unidentified family >> photos >> simply because you hadn't thought about it or, worse, not got around to >> it? >> >> Have you made duplicates of your current research and backed it up? >> >> I use Dropbox at present but am open to any better suggestions. >> >> This is what I have put in place in case I drop off my twig, and as I am >> now considered to be elderly having been born during WW2, >> this is a real possibilty. My fellow researcher was 10 years younger than >> me! >> >> Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament: >> >> My Genealogical Will >> For Preserving My Family History >> To my spouse, children and/or heirs, guardian, administrator or executor: >> Upon my death, it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any or all of >> my >> genealogical records, both those prepared personally by me and those >> prepared by others, which may be in my possession. >> This includes but is not limited to books, paper and/or computer files, >> notebooks, correspondence, audio/visual items, photographs, and >> documents, >> for a period of two years. >> During this two-year period, please attempt to identify one or more >> persons >> who would be willing to take custody of said materials and the >> responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. >> Parties to contact regarding the assumption of the custody of these items >> include but are not limited to: >> >> Name >> Address >> Telephone >> >> In the event that you find no one to accept these materials, please >> contact >> the institutions listed below, in order, and determine if they will >> accept >> part or all of my genealogical materials. >> >> Institution Name Address >> (Contact Person) Telephone >> >> Please remember that my family history studies consumed a great deal of >> time, travel, and money. Therefore it is my strong desire that the >> product >> of these efforts be preserved and allowed to continue in a manner that >> will make them available to others in the future. >> Signature >> Date >> Witness >> Date _ >> >> >> Regards >> Mike Harvey >> Merewether NSW >> mj_harvey@dodo.com.au >> >> "Teachers open the door, but you must enter yourself." >> -Ancient Chinese Proverb >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > Regards, > Jennifer > -- Jennifer

How depressing! I am fortunate that my daughter is willing to take it on - we are working jointly on some projects My daughter-in-law also comes from a family which values family history so no worries there. While I am not planning to fall off the perch soon, at the moment someone else wishing to continue my research would find it a challenge. To try to overcome that, I am in the process of re-arranging my files so that a stranger could pick up a folder related to a particular individual or family and know exactly where my research is up to. Very much a work in progress. I love the idea of a genealogical will! On 1 January 2014 14:11, Mike Harvey <mj_harvey@dodo.com.au> wrote: > This is very sad but good lesson for all. > > > http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/bayswater-fire-destroys-genealogist-horst-blaichs-lifetime-of-work/story-fngnvlxu-1226773412995?sv=ff975feb5f10 > > > This loss needed not to happen if just a little thought ( all right, a lot > of thought) and effort had been put into placing your research some where > safe and making sure that it will be preserved for future generations. > > A recent death of a fellow researcher and what happened to her research > made me think. > > When you think about the hours, and in some cases, years, you put into > gathering your research would you like to lose it suddenly? > > Have you thought about what will happen to your research if, heaven > forbid, > you fall of your twig unexpectedly? > Will your heirs treasure your work and place it where it will be > appreciated?....... > Or will they just send it to the dump as rubbish, as hers did, > along with all those precious, but uncatalogued and unidentified family > photos > simply because you hadn't thought about it or, worse, not got around to > it? > > Have you made duplicates of your current research and backed it up? > > I use Dropbox at present but am open to any better suggestions. > > This is what I have put in place in case I drop off my twig, and as I am > now considered to be elderly having been born during WW2, > this is a real possibilty. My fellow researcher was 10 years younger than > me! > > Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament: > > My Genealogical Will > For Preserving My Family History > To my spouse, children and/or heirs, guardian, administrator or executor: > Upon my death, it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any or all of my > genealogical records, both those prepared personally by me and those > prepared by others, which may be in my possession. > This includes but is not limited to books, paper and/or computer files, > notebooks, correspondence, audio/visual items, photographs, and documents, > for a period of two years. > During this two-year period, please attempt to identify one or more > persons > who would be willing to take custody of said materials and the > responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. > Parties to contact regarding the assumption of the custody of these items > include but are not limited to: > > Name > Address > Telephone > > In the event that you find no one to accept these materials, please > contact > the institutions listed below, in order, and determine if they will accept > part or all of my genealogical materials. > > Institution Name Address > (Contact Person) Telephone > > Please remember that my family history studies consumed a great deal of > time, travel, and money. Therefore it is my strong desire that the product > of these efforts be preserved and allowed to continue in a manner that > will make them available to others in the future. > Signature > Date > Witness > Date _ > > > Regards > Mike Harvey > Merewether NSW > mj_harvey@dodo.com.au > > "Teachers open the door, but you must enter yourself." > -Ancient Chinese Proverb > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Regards, Jennifer

This is very sad but good lesson for all. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/bayswater-fire-destroys-genealogist-horst-blaichs-lifetime-of-work/story-fngnvlxu-1226773412995?sv=ff975feb5f10 This loss needed not to happen if just a little thought ( all right, a lot of thought) and effort had been put into placing your research some where safe and making sure that it will be preserved for future generations. A recent death of a fellow researcher and what happened to her research made me think. When you think about the hours, and in some cases, years, you put into gathering your research would you like to lose it suddenly? Have you thought about what will happen to your research if, heaven forbid, you fall of your twig unexpectedly? Will your heirs treasure your work and place it where it will be appreciated?....... Or will they just send it to the dump as rubbish, as hers did, along with all those precious, but uncatalogued and unidentified family photos simply because you hadn't thought about it or, worse, not got around to it? Have you made duplicates of your current research and backed it up? I use Dropbox at present but am open to any better suggestions. This is what I have put in place in case I drop off my twig, and as I am now considered to be elderly having been born during WW2, this is a real possibilty. My fellow researcher was 10 years younger than me! Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament: My Genealogical Will For Preserving My Family History To my spouse, children and/or heirs, guardian, administrator or executor: Upon my death, it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any or all of my genealogical records, both those prepared personally by me and those prepared by others, which may be in my possession. This includes but is not limited to books, paper and/or computer files, notebooks, correspondence, audio/visual items, photographs, and documents, for a period of two years. During this two-year period, please attempt to identify one or more persons who would be willing to take custody of said materials and the responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. Parties to contact regarding the assumption of the custody of these items include but are not limited to: Name Address Telephone In the event that you find no one to accept these materials, please contact the institutions listed below, in order, and determine if they will accept part or all of my genealogical materials. Institution Name Address (Contact Person) Telephone Please remember that my family history studies consumed a great deal of time, travel, and money. Therefore it is my strong desire that the product of these efforts be preserved and allowed to continue in a manner that will make them available to others in the future. Signature Date Witness Date _ Regards Mike Harvey Merewether NSW mj_harvey@dodo.com.au "Teachers open the door, but you must enter yourself." -Ancient Chinese Proverb

Hi Mike. Thanks for posting this. A very timely warning to all of us, regardless of our age. The article mentions that he has written about the Templer Society in Australia. As such, at least the bare basics of his genealogies will still be safe for future generations; even though his research notes, documents and photos will be lost. I have recently had cause to undertake a steep learning curve on this incredible Society; having discovered that our eldest grandchild is now descended from them; and recently spent a couple of weeks in Bayswater in their midst. The stories of their formation in Germany in the 1800s as a breakaway from the Lutherans, and later migrations to pre-partition Palestine, later to be dispersed again to Germany and Russia and elsewhere, including East Africa where this man's ancestors I believe were one time located; and eventually many were brought to Australia and placed in internment camps; are a tribute to their commitment and social cohesion. I was told that one of their members in Germany has documented all of the family genealogies for all of the dozens of families involved; so ALL is not lost. Thanks again for posting it. Thanks also for adding in your well-constructed wording for a Clause in a Will -- or a codicil as stated -- to cover our research papers etc. "One day" I must get around to safeguarding my own papers in the suggested ways. Happy New Year to you, and to Listers. ray in oz On 01/01/2014, at 1:11 PM, Mike Harvey <mj_harvey@dodo.com.au> wrote: This is very sad but good lesson for all. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/bayswater-fire-destroys-genealogist-horst-blaichs-lifetime-of-work/story-fngnvlxu-1226773412995?sv=ff975feb5f10 …

John, Mike and all members of PT... Sorry to be off subject matter with this site but can I offer my thoughts since this has been raised. It is not easy to decide what action to take, as the information that I have gathered over the last 35 years with small file of about 80,000 names, is only "my version" of Genealogy and will only be of some help to others in the future. To find a person outside a sibling it is not very interesting for them. Take my children when they married it only covered one side of the tree of that marriage.Then when it goes to say to a cousin it becomes less useful. So to find a use for it I feel that on line is the place for it where people can take bits and pieces and match it to their tree.Like searching with Roots Magic through into Family Search, or Mundia or direct onto the internet on convict sites etc. The LDS site in the mountain is really the only current best way to store and be accessed for the present time until some replacement becomes available. Colin > > >

Don't forget that New Years Day means the NSW Registry office adds another year onto the index for searching for births, deaths and marriages. More information to add to our trees. Therefore you will be able to search the index for events as follows:births up to and including 1913deaths up to and including 1983marriages up to and including 1963 Michelle Nichols

  Hi Mike, Yes, I think about it all the time. And re "Or will they just send it to the dump as rubbish, as hers did" .. yes this I suspect is what happens in the vast majority of cases ... .... all goes to the tip. However saving stuff or "publishing it all" is, I think, perhaps not quite as easy for many as you may imagine? I've been thinking about all this sort of thing for years now. Best regards and thanks for you timely reminder to all. Cheers,   John (Strathfield)   ~~~~~~~~~~~~   ----- Original Message ----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:11:46 +1100 Subject:[PJ] Always keep a copy of your research or publish it all This is very sad but good lesson for all. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/bayswater-fire-destroys-genealogist-horst-blaichs-lifetime-of-work/story-fngnvlxu-1226773412995?sv=ff975feb5f10 This loss needed not to happen if just a little thought ( all right, a lot of thought) and effort had been put into placing your research some where safe and making sure that it will be preserved for future generations. A recent death of a fellow researcher and what happened to her research made me think. When you think about the hours, and in some cases, years, you put into gathering your research would you like to lose it suddenly? Have you thought about what will happen to your research if, heaven forbid, you fall of your twig unexpectedly? Will your heirs treasure your work and place it where it will be appreciated?....... Or will they just send it to the dump as rubbish, as hers did, along with all those precious, but uncatalogued and unidentified family photos simply because you hadn't thought about it or, worse, not got around to it? Have you made duplicates of your current research and backed it up? I use Dropbox at present but am open to any better suggestions. This is what I have put in place in case I drop off my twig, and as I am now considered to be elderly having been born during WW2, this is a real possibilty. My fellow researcher was 10 years younger than me! Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament: My Genealogical Will For Preserving My Family History To my spouse, children and/or heirs, guardian, administrator or executor: Upon my death, it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any or all of my genealogical records, both those prepared personally by me and those prepared by others, which may be in my possession. This includes but is not limited to books, paper and/or computer files, notebooks, correspondence, audio/visual items, photographs, and documents, for a period of two years. During this two-year period, please attempt to identify one or more persons who would be willing to take custody of said materials and the responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. Parties to contact regarding the assumption of the custody of these items include but are not limited to: Name Address Telephone In the event that you find no one to accept these materials, please contact the institutions listed below, in order, and determine if they will accept part or all of my genealogical materials. Institution Name Address (Contact Person) Telephone Please remember that my family history studies consumed a great deal of time, travel, and money. Therefore it is my strong desire that the product of these efforts be preserved and allowed to continue in a manner that will make them available to others in the future. Signature Date Witness Date _ Regards Mike Harvey Merewether NSW mj_harvey@dodo.com.au "Teachers open the door, but you must enter yourself." -Ancient Chinese Proverb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michelle, This year I had a simple but breakthrough achievement when I found the family of an Adelaide Van Sek and her actual name and this came about in a 'meant to be' manner. We had been trying to find information about her for years. Adelaide was not a convict but her daughter married a convict. I had my dna tested recently with one of the american companies and among the hundreds of american matches I had was someone whose name sounded phonetically a bit like Van Sek. However, he was actually adopted but the family who had adopted him had a large family tree which he sent me and among the names were Van Schaicks who originally owned an island in New York. I searched for Adelaide Van Schaick and up popped our Adelaide. We knew she had married an Irish soldier named O'Connor and there was her marriage to him in Dublin. Adelaide Rosealvena Van Schaick. I still have no idea how I am related to the person I contacted though or how our Van Schaicks are possibly connected to the early New York family. Hope the New Year treats you kindly Natalie

Here is Lesley's write-up of that wonderful walk down George Street in 2003: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS/2003-0 3/1049099165 Ann Fieldhouse

We too have benefited enormously from Lesley's most enthusiastic and diligent work over all the years. I especially appreciate being part of her group excursion down George Street about 11 years ago, where each of us participants were to prepare a short history on one of the buildings, and talk about it as we reached our particular building along the way. I and my son, Edwin (then 14), did a short history of the current Queen Victoria Building. See http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS/2003-0 4/1049250955. Anyone else here remember that amazing day? It was on Sunday, 30 March 2003. So, thank you Lesley. You have opened up a whole new world to so many of us. Ann Ann Fieldhouse Solicitor ann@fieldhouse.com.au www.fieldhouse.com.au <http://www.fieldhouse.com.au/> 48 837 204 (0409) 601102 Skype ID - exeter18 43 Ellsmore Rd, Bundanoon, NSW 2578 PO Box 169, Bundanoon, NSW 2578 Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation

Congratulations Michelle, and thank you for taking on the lists and what a good idea to start off with each of us reviewing 2013. Reminds me of the line/s in the Christmas carol, "So this is Christmas, and what have you done" etc. My great plans to revisit Audlem - a small village in S.E. Cheshire - home of one of my (non-convict) paternal 2x great grandfather (John Herring - druggist) and the Lancashire part of Todmorden ( the line dividing Lancashire and Yorkshire apparently goes through part of the township of Todmorden) - home of my 3xgreat grandfather (Simeon Lord) had to be put on hold due to a 3½ month hospitalisation thanks to the "flesh eating bug". But prior to hospitalisation, I purchased a DVD - Victorian Pharmacy (ABC on line) - a 4 part simulation of a Pharmacy in the Victorian era. Recommend this for anyone who had a druggist/pharmacist ancestor during that time or who is interested in daily lives of people who lived in those times. Now I know why he gave his occupation on one census as "druggist and green grocer"!! I've been trying to find out what happened to John Herring's wife and 2 of his daughters. No UK records of marriages; deaths or emigrations. Poof!! They'd just disappeared. But a search of immigration records on Ancestry.com.au revealed them in "my own backyard" so to speak. They had emigrated to Victoria, where the eldest son was now an Anglican minister. Plans for 2014: Hopefully resurrect the plans to revisit Audlem and Todmorden. Read 2 books I've been given - one about the family in Todmorden and the other about the Lords and Victoria Downs in Qld. Find out where John Herring's eldest daughter is buried. There has to be a missing graveyard in that village. Joan Nichols

Hi Michelle We had two achievements that come to hand, although neither ancestors were convicts, we located the death of our JOHN SMITH 1823-1902, after quite a number of years, through the TROVE Newspaper The Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers Advocate. Not by searching for JOHN SMITH, but searching for his son-in-law, FREDERICK HAZELWOOD, his name was found by searching Mr. F. HAZELWOOD and he appeared in the funeral notice for JOHN SMITH. From that funeral notice we have been able to also obtain all the information regarding his 2nd daughter Charlotte, she married a Frederick Turner. All three are buried in Mays Hill Cemetery, Parramatta NSW. So we have JOHN SMITHS death certificate and also a photo of the grave courtesy of Australian Cemeteries Index website. The other success we had recently was finding George Somerville 1809-1897 death and other details. His first wife had died in Scotland, he remarried in Scotland and lived the rest of his life in Ohio USA. All the information ties in with his first family, we still have to obtain the death certificate in the New Year. I have no convicts in my family research Johns convict ancestors are: Joseph BRIDGE, Elizabeth BUFFEY, Joseph CRAFT, Thomas CROSS, Margaret DAVIS, Cecilia Jane EVERS, Sion FREEBODY, Martin HEAGNEY, Joseph HOLLINSHED, Thomas Hoskisson, Jane LLoyd, Michael MAGNER, Thomas MATTHEWS, Sarah PIGG, Sarah ROBINSON, George STEWART, William TAAFE (came out as a STEWART) and Mary WELLS. Our thoughts are with Lesley and her family. Regards to all John and Shirley Smith

A great deal over many, many years..I was lucky enough to have Lesley help me, not once but many times both privately and also via the PJ List. Through the List I have met Cousins that I never would have thought about let alone meet them in person.One of my favourite Ancestors ( with Lesley's help) was a very young Convict from County Essex names James Sach ( aka Saich) who later married an Irish Convict named Winifred Burke.. I was lucky enough to write an article for the Takeley Historical Society in County Essex where my James came from.. And in later years I was awarded a small prize for the said Article..Had it not been for Lesley help and guidance, none of this would have ever happened.. "Thank You Lesley" more than words can say. To you Michelle, I would like to say " Welcome" and wish you all the best and to say " Thank You" to you for taking on this role as Admin for the PJ List. To all the Lists Members, I wish each and every one a Very Happy New Year.. may it be filled with much Love, Laughter and Good Health.. And most importantly.. "May all your Brick Walls Tumble." Cheers Fay Gold Coast. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello Michelle, When you get a chance, please contact me off list. Happy New Year, and every best wish for 2014. Best regards, Wayne Carter flora.1@bigpond.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michelle Nichols" <michelle_nichols@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:29 AM To: "AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com" <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PJ] New Years Eve > It’s New Years Eve and the time for reflecting on the past. What did you > manage to achieve in your family history in 2013? > Michelle Nichols > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to add my heartfelt condolences along with the rest of the PJ community. Lesley will be remembered for her invaluable contribution to Australian history in general and ancestry in particular. Her research and her willingness to share it with others will remain an enduring tribute to this smart, compassionate, sometimes feisty, and always generous lady. I had the pleasure of meeting her when she offered to assist me in some personal research. I was struck by her vitality, her knowledge and her approachable personality. She always provided assistance where possible, ideas when I had run out and occasionally a prod when I got lazy. She touched the lives of countless people around the world. Lesley, you are a great Australian and I wish you peace. Maureen Player

Hi list Not much new information but made contact with new cousins through John Manning (Royal Admiral 1800), Margaret Beynon (Nile 1801) and Thomas Anderson/Andrews (Alexander 1806). Trove has proved to be a great source and continues to come up with new surprises. My best result was having my family history website archived by NLA's Pandora project. I hope 2014 brings everyone research success. Grahame