Hi Christine, Yes, he was a convict per Larkins. His eldest daughter married into my Rose family and the others into other well known Hawkesbury families - Brown, Teale, Bushell, Asprey and Turnbull (loads of convicts in that lot) and did his grandchildren. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of christine Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:06 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] James Winton Hi all, I think I just found another convict ancester. Does anyone know anything about James Winton married to Mary Ann Lisson in 1825 in Windsor. I wasn't aware that he was a convict and am still not sure. He supposed to have come over on the "Larkin" in 1817 Christine

Dear Sandra No, I do not have any record of Benjamin George Bennett. Only Elizabeth Bennett. Regards, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "sandra fox" <sandra26sandra@optusnet.com.au> To: "Jan Koperberg" <jank@eftel.com.au>; <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] New Year > Dear Jan trying to find the origins of a Benjamin George Bennett. Is he > one of yours? Sandra

Hi List My ancestor Edward Murphy arrived on the convict ship "St Vincent" in 1837. He was one of two Edward Murphy's on the St Vincent. Although his wife, Mary and son, Michael were to follow him 2 years later on board "Margaret 2" I have no evidence that they met up again and wonder if Edward remarried in Australia. I am wondering if someone with the Convicts permissions to marry CD could check to see if there was an application to marry made. Thanks to all Donna

Dear Jan trying to find the origins of a Benjamin George Bennett. Is he one of yours? Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Koperberg" <jank@eftel.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [PJ] New Year

Hi Christine, I don't know about James but Mary Ann was the daughter of Thomas Lisson and Ann Bradwell, both convicts. If you haven't the information on them I can pass on whatever I have. Regards, Natalie Christine wrote: " Does anyone know anything about James Winton married to Mary Ann Lisson in 1825 in Windsor. I wasn't aware that he was a convict and am still not sure. He supposed to have come over on the "Larkin" in 1817" > > > Christine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Over the past few weeks this list has been receiving lots of emails from members who do not snip the messages before posting. In other words they send messages with lots of previous messages still attached…. sometimes as many as 6!. Apart from the fact that is a Rootsweb guideline to remove them as they take up too much space on their system, is that some listers are on dial up and cannot afford to keep downloading the same messages over and over again. It is basic etiquette to delete them apart from the particular one to which you are responding. If replying to a long message with just a comment, I ask that you delete most it, just leaving a portion of it. It is worth considering that Rootsweb have to archive these repeated messages and it must take up a huge space on their system – they provide this service free, so please let’s help them back in return. Some of the extra long messages get stuck in the Rootsweb system as they are far too large, as are those from listers who insist on using Incredimail and I do not release these to the list. I realise that one can get very excited about receiving an answer and forget to snip, but most times they are from the same people time and time again. So please consider your fellow listers and Rootsweb before clicking Send. There is no need to respond to this message although if you feel a need to, then please do so to me privately. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au

Hi Lesley Thank you for your reply I had thoughts that it might be my computer. Thank you again Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] late emails > Hi Linda and all > > It has been happening since November last year, and whilst it is > disconcerting, > I am afraid there is nothing much we can do about it. Rootsweb Help Desk > is > aware of the problem as it happening to the lists whose messages are being > sent > through a particular server. > > I usually check our PJ Archives if I am waiting for a message to come > through. > > Our Archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/5jacyn > > Regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ross > McDougal > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:25 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] late emails > > > Hi Pat > > I also have received about 50 emails today from the PJ and HHHV lists. > Some of > them are up to 3 weeks old. > > Is there a problem Lesley? > Regards Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I think I just found another convict ancester. Does anyone know anything about James Winton married to Mary Ann Lisson in 1825 in Windsor. I wasn't aware that he was a convict and am still not sure. He supposed to have come over on the "Larkin" in 1817 Christine

Lesley I will do that. I received around 19 old emails from list today. Thanks Pat Mott Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, DINES, MARSH On 05/01/2009, at 3:05 PM, Lesley Uebel wrote: > Hi Pat > > Yes, some messages are coming through late but I cannot do anything > about it. > > When a person claims a convict there is no reason for me to know if > they have > claimed the wrong one. I usually check my database to see if the > details are > correct and if they are I add the claim. > > In this case your friend Jill did claim the correct one and the > ship noted on > my web site is correct > i.e. John Hawkes arrived in 1838 on board the transport "Earl > Grey" - was > tried in Stafford in 1837 and received a 7 years sentence. > > One way to help others with a convict is to claim that convict for > yourself :) > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Pat > Pitts > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:44 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] JOHN HAWKES > > > Lesley > > I only received this email today despite it being sent on the > 28/12/08. I have made contact with my distant relative Jill who is > on the Claim the Convict site. The ship is incorrect I noted. I > have a lot of information to share - I know his wife and child in > England and was very excited to get the BC late last year of his son > born prior to him being shipped to Australia. I also know JOHN > HAWKES parents in England. I am not sure how about putting all this > information somewhere for others to find in the future. Your help > will be most appreciated. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks John for that info, "CAVAN" is no longer the large property it was, what is interesting the early history of Captian George Johnson Mr Luke Reddell from Mill Bank station and Captain Philip Parker King from " Gidleigh".Bungendore. all makes good reading on our early history. Kath Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] CONVICT JOHN HAWKES > Hi Kath & Pat, > > I know it is way off topic but it may be of interest to know that Rupert > Murdoch's sister is the current owner Cavan Station near Yass. It is > probably the most private site in Oz for the Murdochs and that is probably > the reason that Lachlan choose that site for his wedding. Rupert quite > often > flies into Canberra in his personal Airbus A340 to visit with his sister. > > Better go now before Leslie jumps on me with both feet. >

Hi Pat Yes, some messages are coming through late but I cannot do anything about it. When a person claims a convict there is no reason for me to know if they have claimed the wrong one. I usually check my database to see if the details are correct and if they are I add the claim. In this case your friend Jill did claim the correct one and the ship noted on my web site is correct i.e. John Hawkes arrived in 1838 on board the transport "Earl Grey" - was tried in Stafford in 1837 and received a 7 years sentence. One way to help others with a convict is to claim that convict for yourself :) Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Pat Pitts Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:44 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] JOHN HAWKES Lesley I only received this email today despite it being sent on the 28/12/08. I have made contact with my distant relative Jill who is on the Claim the Convict site. The ship is incorrect I noted. I have a lot of information to share - I know his wife and child in England and was very excited to get the BC late last year of his son born prior to him being shipped to Australia. I also know JOHN HAWKES parents in England. I am not sure how about putting all this information somewhere for others to find in the future. Your help will be most appreciated.

Kath This is very interesting - could be your grt grt gran was born there at Cavan Station when my JOHN HAWKES was working there. I always knew there were things kept secret in my family as back in those days (1950s onwards) it was considered terrible coming from convicts. The Hawkes line in particular was never discussed much. My father always said that there was a convict or two there though. He is 82 now and quite excited about all my finds. Thanks for all your assistance. Pat Pat Mott Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, DINES, MARSH On 05/01/2009, at 2:45 PM, Kath Connors wrote: > Yes Pat, we have no record of any George Porter, that is > not to say there was not one.Our grt, grt gran was born on > " CAVAN in 1843 and lived till 1933 with our family in her late > years hence left ever so much family history never any mention > her mother & father were convicts, her father was George Potter. > great gran married and raised 13 children in the came district. > I will send you the name of the Davis connection off line and > although you may not be related my guess is they will know > and will help. > > Kath > > > >> Kath >> >> Do you think that George Porter could have been George Potter in the >> Yass District. When I had a look at Cavan Station - interesting to >> note that Lachlan Murdoch married Sarah O'Hare on the property >> assuming this is the same place some 25 kms from Yass. I went on the >> Gundaroo site but all of the people researching the DAVIS families of >> Gundaroo seemed to have changed their contact email addresses so not >> having much luck there. >> >> Thanks for the additional info. >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Back again Pat, VALDA Poole and her address is 15 Egata St Batean Bay N S W Valda and family knowledge is tops Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Pitts" <patpitts@iinet.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] CONVICT JOHN HAWKES > Kath > > Do you think that George Porter could have been George Potter in the > Yass District. When I had a look at Cavan Station - interesting to > note that Lachlan Murdoch married Sarah O'Hare on the property > assuming this is the same place some 25 kms from Yass. I went on the > Gundaroo site but all of the people researching the DAVIS families of > Gundaroo seemed to have changed their contact email addresses so not > having much luck there. > > Thanks for the additional info. > > > > Pat Mott > Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, > CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, > DINES, MARSH > > On 05/01/2009, at 11:34 AM, Kath Connors wrote: > >> Forgot to mention Pat that our ancestor was a George Potter who >> arrived- >> in the district assigned to Luke Reddall at MILL BANK STATION.1830 >> and also Captain George Potter >> Kath >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- >> JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Linda and all It has been happening since November last year, and whilst it is disconcerting, I am afraid there is nothing much we can do about it. Rootsweb Help Desk is aware of the problem as it happening to the lists whose messages are being sent through a particular server. I usually check our PJ Archives if I am waiting for a message to come through. Our Archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/5jacyn Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ross McDougal Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:25 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] late emails Hi Pat I also have received about 50 emails today from the PJ and HHHV lists. Some of them are up to 3 weeks old. Is there a problem Lesley? Regards Linda

Yes Pat, we have no record of any George Porter, that is not to say there was not one.Our grt, grt gran was born on " CAVAN in 1843 and lived till 1933 with our family in her late years hence left ever so much family history never any mention her mother & father were convicts, her father was George Potter. great gran married and raised 13 children in the came district. I will send you the name of the Davis connection off line and although you may not be related my guess is they will know and will help. Kath > Kath > > Do you think that George Porter could have been George Potter in the > Yass District. When I had a look at Cavan Station - interesting to > note that Lachlan Murdoch married Sarah O'Hare on the property > assuming this is the same place some 25 kms from Yass. I went on the > Gundaroo site but all of the people researching the DAVIS families of > Gundaroo seemed to have changed their contact email addresses so not > having much luck there. > > Thanks for the additional info. > >

Hi Pat I also have received about 50 emails today from the PJ and HHHV lists. Some of them are up to 3 weeks old. Is there a problem Lesley? Regards Linda

John Thanks for that information - I cannot get it to come up on Google Map to get an idea exactly where it is. Pat Mott Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, DINES, MARSH On 05/01/2009, at 1:12 PM, John Caling wrote: > Hi Kath & Pat, > > I know it is way off topic but it may be of interest to know that > Rupert > Murdoch's sister is the current owner Cavan Station near Yass. It is > probably the most private site in Oz for the Murdochs and that is > probably > the reason that Lachlan choose that site for his wedding. Rupert > quite often > flies into Canberra in his personal Airbus A340 to visit with his > sister. > > Better go now before Leslie jumps on me with both feet. > > Cheers, > > John Caling > Currimundi, Qld. > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Pat Pitts > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:42 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] CONVICT JOHN HAWKES > > Kath > > Do you think that George Porter could have been George Potter in > the Yass > District. When I had a look at Cavan Station - interesting to note > that > Lachlan Murdoch married Sarah O'Hare on the property assuming this > is the > same place some 25 kms from Yass. I went on the Gundaroo site but > all of > the people researching the DAVIS families of Gundaroo seemed to > have changed > their contact email addresses so not having much luck there. > > Thanks for the additional info. > > > > Pat Mott > Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, > CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, > DINES, > MARSH > > On 05/01/2009, at 11:34 AM, Kath Connors wrote: > >> Forgot to mention Pat that our ancestor was a George Potter who >> arrived- >> in the district assigned to Luke Reddall at MILL BANK STATION.1830 >> and >> also Captain George Potter Kath >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- >> JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kath Do you think that George Porter could have been George Potter in the Yass District. When I had a look at Cavan Station - interesting to note that Lachlan Murdoch married Sarah O'Hare on the property assuming this is the same place some 25 kms from Yass. I went on the Gundaroo site but all of the people researching the DAVIS families of Gundaroo seemed to have changed their contact email addresses so not having much luck there. Thanks for the additional info. Pat Mott Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, DINES, MARSH On 05/01/2009, at 11:34 AM, Kath Connors wrote: > Forgot to mention Pat that our ancestor was a George Potter who > arrived- > in the district assigned to Luke Reddall at MILL BANK STATION.1830 > and also Captain George Potter > Kath >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kath & Pat, I know it is way off topic but it may be of interest to know that Rupert Murdoch's sister is the current owner Cavan Station near Yass. It is probably the most private site in Oz for the Murdochs and that is probably the reason that Lachlan choose that site for his wedding. Rupert quite often flies into Canberra in his personal Airbus A340 to visit with his sister. Better go now before Leslie jumps on me with both feet. Cheers, John Caling Currimundi, Qld. -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Pitts Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:42 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] CONVICT JOHN HAWKES Kath Do you think that George Porter could have been George Potter in the Yass District. When I had a look at Cavan Station - interesting to note that Lachlan Murdoch married Sarah O'Hare on the property assuming this is the same place some 25 kms from Yass. I went on the Gundaroo site but all of the people researching the DAVIS families of Gundaroo seemed to have changed their contact email addresses so not having much luck there. Thanks for the additional info. Pat Mott Researching HAWK, HAWKE, HAWKES, DAVIS, MOTT, GREEN, ANDERSON, RIGG, CAMPBELL, MAC TAGGART, TAGGART, RAIN, CONROY, ROBINSON, HOLGATE, DINES, MARSH On 05/01/2009, at 11:34 AM, Kath Connors wrote: > Forgot to mention Pat that our ancestor was a George Potter who > arrived- > in the district assigned to Luke Reddall at MILL BANK STATION.1830 and > also Captain George Potter Kath >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forgot to mention Pat that our ancestor was a George Potter who arrived- in the district assigned to Luke Reddall at MILL BANK STATION.1830 and also Captain George Potter Kath >