Gerry, I spend enough time grumbling about my own government, so perhaps I shouldn't grumble about yours. However , having 15 of my 16 g g grandparents Irish (and the sixteenth, born here, half Irish) I'll do it anyway, though with best intentions. Is there not a 50 year limit on copyright? If British Library can put their set of Dublin Freeman's Journal on free computer access website without Irish lawsuits then surely Irish Government Libraries could do so. . Here in Australia the National Library is digitising our newspapers back to white settlement (1788) and up to the copyright limit of 1955 - all with free computer access to anyone anywhere in the world. See http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Moreover, the NSW State Government had recently provided $Aus10 million to digitise all State Library card indexes back over a hundred years with a view to free computer access – a boon for genealogists. And NSW Govt Archives provides access to extensive immigration records in the 19C. Ships, names, families, dob, origin, profession etc etc. All free and to anyone anywhere in the world. See http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/. In NSW I have free computer access to State Government website which gives me Births (incl names of parents , location, year, and certificate reference); marriages (full names, year, location and certificate reference); and deaths (name, parents, location , year and certificate reference) from 1788 to early 20 Century. All free and including church records of the period prior to official records. See http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm And full detail from certificates is then available for a price much discounted if not required for legal purposes. All free – that is, after we pay our income taxes. And absolutely free to overseas based people.. So it is frustrating for us out here in the Colonies to be billed on the basis of guessing whether the minimal detail is "ours". I recently sought information, based on the minimal initial BDM information on one well known and well promoted site. All wrong calls! And it cost $Aus 70. But I'd happily pay this if the website gave more detail enabling us to go beyond lottery- like bids for information. So, in my view, the Irish Government appears to have ignored its important heritage- and its loyal diaspora. Regards Frank M. 2009/2/23 <aus-pt-jackson-convicts-request@rootsweb.com> > > > The Port Jackson Convicts Mailing List > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Dublin Trial Records (Gerry Kennedy) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:06:34 -0000 > From: "Gerry Kennedy" <gerrynkennedy@eircom.net> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Dublin Trial Records > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0B0605A4F64640A1BAAD1F7D72D2A5FD@owner> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Frank, > > This is a commercial enterprise that the newspaper owners (who presumably > own the copyright) have done, not the Irish Government. > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Frank > Murray > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] Dublin Trial Records > > Ron, > > Presumably you have a National Library readers Ticket. (Anyone may apply > from all over Australia. See the NLA website.) Go to NLA webpage and to >

Hi Michelle Was the owner a convict who had served his sentence or had been pardoned? regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Michelle Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:07 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] Sydney Hotels 1815 to 1830 Hi I am after info on a pub on king st at the entrance to the theatre royal. In 1874 it was the Miner's exchange Michelle Herbert I have deleted all the unnecessary messages

I had a look and no record..sorry the Freemans Journal was Dublin based and only a hanging might make the news.. The local newspapers might have a record. See the link below http://www.nli.ie/en/NewspapersResult.aspx?TITLEID=&TOWNID=Tralee&COUNTYID=1 3&ORIGINALFILESID=&STARTYRPUB=1813&ENDYRPUB=1815 -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna Boyanton Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:54 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] Dublin Trial Records Hi Gerry, I am wondering if you can help me with a lookup in the Freemans Journal Edmund Moore trial in Kerry in August 1814. His crime - sedition [breaking a curfew] This is all the information that I have. Thank you for your kind work to help in this way regards Donna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Does anyone have any info/photos/tales of the "Dog and Duck" or "Horse and Jockey" hotels in Sydney run by the Hanslows, or the "Kingston Hotel run by George Davis? Thanks, Susan, in NSW. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Michelle <herbie_09@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi > > I am after info on a pub on king st at the entrance to the theatre royal. > > In 1874 it was the Miner's exchange > > > Michelle Herbert > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Murray" <fcmurr@gmail.com> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:46 PM > Subject: [PJ] Sydney Hotels 1815 to 1830 > > > "Old Chum" a weekly(?) Sunday column in the Sydney Truth in and around > January 1911 gives a story of the pubs up and down George St (and other > streets) in the early days. I have not copied George St but the following > account of Campbell St gives an example of how his columns described the > situation, though I cannot recall whether he went back to 1830.. National > and State libraries will have the microfilm. > > BEGINS > > Extract from *OLD SYDNEY OLD CHUM* by Old Chum > > *Truth*, Sunday January 25, 1911 (re Campbell Street in the *1850s)* > > > > …round by corner in Campbell Street in the early fifties were a number of > inns patronised by farmers. One door from Mr. Byrne's *Peacock* was > the *Picton > Arms* named, I fancy, after the bucolic town on the Southern line, rather > than after the famous General who 'foremost, fighting, fell'. It was in > the > first fifties kept by Robert McRoberts who had for next door neighbour > James > Madden, grocer, while next to him was *Luke Ryan, who kept the **Beehive > Inn > *. In connection with this hostelry, I have a gruesome story of murder, in > which a soldier, a policeman and a tombstone in the old Presbyterian > Cemetery in Devonshire-street are mixed up. Of that, however, at another > time. Mr. Ryan's next door neighbour was one Cornelius Murray. Next to > him > was Philip Hart, who kept the *Irish Harp*, as Governor Bligh remarked of > Mr. John Reddington, 'a disaffected Irishman, who kept a public house with > the sign of the Harp without the Crown'. Cheek by jowl – brick to brick – > with Mr. Hart was Mr. James Cullen, who kept the *Packhorse*. Then there > was Robert Hewey, a general dealer, and then on the corner of Pitt Street a > collection of sheds designated a hay and corn store and kept by John > McIntosh….. the year 1858 saw many changes – James Tunks succeeding Mr. > McRoberts (i.e. as prop of the *Picton Arms*. > > ENDS > > > > > > Frank M. > > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:53:01 +1100 > > From: "nuages" <nuages@apex.net.au> > > Subject: Re: [PJ] AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 57 > > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <1A31AF2E50954F74AA2BE67FB4B5956E@IANSNEWPC> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Dear Arnie > > State Records has copies of publicans licences. > > > > Regards > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jenny I suggest you subscribe to the Penrith rootsweb mailing list as they are really helpful about local history. cheers Grahame On 23/02/2009, at 1:19 PM, Jenny T wrote: > Hello List > > This is my brick wall; I am trying to find the Goverment Lumber > Yard that my convict Daniel Canvin 1820> was employed. I had it all > nicely pigeon holed and I was quoting in my research the Lumber > Yard that was in Sydney Town corner of George and Bridge Street. I > then obtained the General Muster List of NSW 1823, 1824, 1825, and > here I find him under Goverment Employment at Emu Plains with a > spelling of Cannivan. I now have to rethink my research. > > I was as wondering if anyone knew much about convicts at Emu Plains > and if it had a Lumber Yard 1820- 1827. I am aware that Daniel > ended up working for the Badgery Family all of his life however I > am not sure when his Goverment Employemt ended and his work for the > Badgery family began. I am also wondering why I can't find Daniel > in 1822 Muster > > I'd be so grateful for any help. > > Jenny > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jenny. Some past research turned up a particular individual "receiving iron etc. from Lumber Yard Parramatta". This was from Col Sec 1788-1825 and the date was 1809. Don't know if it was still operating in 1820. Terry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <jennygirl@unwired.com.au> To: <AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: [PJ] Lumber Yard & Convicts > Hello List > > This is my brick wall; I am trying to find the Goverment Lumber Yard that > my convict Daniel Canvin 1820> was employed. I had it all nicely pigeon > holed and I was quoting in my research the Lumber Yard that was in Sydney > Town corner of George and Bridge Street. I then obtained the General > Muster List of NSW 1823, 1824, 1825, and here I find him under Goverment > Employment at Emu Plains with a spelling of Cannivan. I now have to > rethink my research. > > I was as wondering if anyone knew much about convicts at Emu Plains and if > it had a Lumber Yard 1820- 1827. I am aware that Daniel ended up working > for the Badgery Family all of his life however I am not sure when his > Goverment Employemt ended and his work for the Badgery family began. I am > also wondering why I can't find Daniel in 1822 Muster > > I'd be so grateful for any help. > > Jenny > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1966 - Release Date: 02/22/09 17:21:00

Rhonda, It appears they are different sets of copies of Freeman's Journal, each with gaps. I did a little test. On the NLA site go to EResources (whose link is at the top right hand corner of ther NLA website), then within "19th Century British Library Newspapers" , and then Dublin Freeman's Journal. It has no/no coverage between 1822 and 1829 inclusive. For 1837, it has only Jan and (most of) Feb. NLA's microfilm reels have much of 1822, including Feb to June which I have researched extensively. I have not checked later dates but it follows that the microfilm reel is a different set from the British Library's set. On the other hand http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/ has all of 1822 and seemingly most (possibly all days of publication) of 1837. Regards Frank M. Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:48:07 +1100 > From: "Rhonda Flowers" <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Dublin Trial Records > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F7939B3BF1A14D669060E52094654DBE@rhondaPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Frank > > Is this the website you mean for the "Irish newspapers website?" > > http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/ > > If so it still doesn't cover the years I am interested in 1828 and 1837 for > the Freemans Journal so maybe also a copy of what is held in the British > Library??? > > Thanks > Rhonda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Murray" <fcmurr@gmail.com> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:09 PM > Subject: [PJ] Dublin Trial Records > > > > Ron, > > > > Presumably you have a National Library readers Ticket. (Anyone may apply > > from all over Australia. See the NLA website.) Go to NLA webpage and to > > "EResources" and a whole new world opens up including Dublin Freeman's > > Journal - no fee -, and many many other records which will make a > > genealogist's heart jump. (A few of the records are available only on > site > > at the NLA.The web site explains all this.) > > > > Be aware that the NLA's Dublin Freeman's Journalis a copy of what is held > > in > > the British Library. So, for example, 1822 is not included, alas. A more > >

Hi Jenny There was also a Lumber Yard at Parramatta. Daniel was employed at the Lumber Yard in 1821, but that does not mean that he was still employed there a few months later. The convicts employed in the Lumbar Yard were Blacksmiths, Carpenters, Sawyers, Shoemakers, Tailors etc Because he was relocated to Emu Plains between 1823 and 1825 does not mean that he was employed in a Lumber Yard at that place as he could have been employed doing anything for the government. Re the 1822 General Muster - there are probably many people missing from it - perhaps some because they were missed by the people who transcribed these record. I cannot find a Ticket of Leave for Daniel, so perhaps he remained working for the government until his sentence expired in 1827. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jenny T Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:19 PM To: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] Lumber Yard & Convicts Hello List This is my brick wall; I am trying to find the Goverment Lumber Yard that my convict Daniel Canvin 1820> was employed. I had it all nicely pigeon holed and I was quoting in my research the Lumber Yard that was in Sydney Town corner of George and Bridge Street. I then obtained the General Muster List of NSW 1823, 1824, 1825, and here I find him under Goverment Employment at Emu Plains with a spelling of Cannivan. I now have to rethink my research. I was as wondering if anyone knew much about convicts at Emu Plains and if it had a Lumber Yard 1820- 1827. I am aware that Daniel ended up working for the Badgery Family all of his life however I am not sure when his Goverment Employemt ended and his work for the Badgery family began. I am also wondering why I can't find Daniel in 1822 Muster I'd be so grateful for any help. Jenny

Hi I am after info on a pub on king st at the entrance to the theatre royal. In 1874 it was the Miner's exchange Michelle Herbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Murray" <fcmurr@gmail.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: [PJ] Sydney Hotels 1815 to 1830 "Old Chum" a weekly(?) Sunday column in the Sydney Truth in and around January 1911 gives a story of the pubs up and down George St (and other streets) in the early days. I have not copied George St but the following account of Campbell St gives an example of how his columns described the situation, though I cannot recall whether he went back to 1830.. National and State libraries will have the microfilm. BEGINS Extract from *OLD SYDNEY OLD CHUM* by Old Chum *Truth*, Sunday January 25, 1911 (re Campbell Street in the *1850s)* …round by corner in Campbell Street in the early fifties were a number of inns patronised by farmers. One door from Mr. Byrne's *Peacock* was the *Picton Arms* named, I fancy, after the bucolic town on the Southern line, rather than after the famous General who 'foremost, fighting, fell'. It was in the first fifties kept by Robert McRoberts who had for next door neighbour James Madden, grocer, while next to him was *Luke Ryan, who kept the **Beehive Inn *. In connection with this hostelry, I have a gruesome story of murder, in which a soldier, a policeman and a tombstone in the old Presbyterian Cemetery in Devonshire-street are mixed up. Of that, however, at another time. Mr. Ryan's next door neighbour was one Cornelius Murray. Next to him was Philip Hart, who kept the *Irish Harp*, as Governor Bligh remarked of Mr. John Reddington, 'a disaffected Irishman, who kept a public house with the sign of the Harp without the Crown'. Cheek by jowl – brick to brick – with Mr. Hart was Mr. James Cullen, who kept the *Packhorse*. Then there was Robert Hewey, a general dealer, and then on the corner of Pitt Street a collection of sheds designated a hay and corn store and kept by John McIntosh….. the year 1858 saw many changes – James Tunks succeeding Mr. McRoberts (i.e. as prop of the *Picton Arms*. ENDS Frank M. Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:53:01 +1100 > From: "nuages" <nuages@apex.net.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 57 > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1A31AF2E50954F74AA2BE67FB4B5956E@IANSNEWPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Dear Arnie > State Records has copies of publicans licences. > > Regards > Ian > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michelle Not that I am aware of - it is just the Exchange Hotel in George Street in the documentation of have about it. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle" <herbie_09@bigpond.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > Hi > > Is this Pub also called the Miners Exchange .... > > Michelle > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <joyldean@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > > >> Does anyone know where in George Street the Exchange Hotel was situated. >> I >> know it was a fairly well established hotel in 1854. >> >> Joy Dean >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) >>> Database version: 5.11810 >>> http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) >> Database version: 5.11810 >> http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11810 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11810 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hi Gerry, I am wondering if you can help me with a lookup in the Freemans Journal Edmund Moore trial in Kerry in August 1814. His crime - sedition [breaking a curfew] This is all the information that I have. Thank you for your kind work to help in this way regards Donna

Thanks Jan, but they are part of the local library. Arnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Koperberg" <jank@eftel.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > Arnie > > Try your local family history society. > > Regards > Jan, NSW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fletch" <waugpath@bigpond.net.au> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > > >> Thanks Gary, but no library close to me has it listed. >> >> Arnie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Luke" <gary@feraltek.com.au> >> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 >> >> >>> At 06:08 PM 22/02/2009, you wrote: >>> >>> Arnie >>> >>> Libraries Australia is the site to check for which library holds what >>> around the country. For a CD pubication like this some local >>> libraries might not have entered it into this database. Many local >>> libraries now have an online catalogue. >>> >>> http://librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au >>> >>> Put part of the title into the search, then click "Get this item". >>> >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> ============================ >>> >>>>Would a copy of that cd be available at a local library ? >>>> > >>>> > There's notes and references for all these pubs on the SAG CD called >>>> > "Pubs and Publicans in the County of Cumberland to 1850". >>> >>> _________________________________ >>> Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au >>> Sydney, Australia >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Arnie Try your local family history society. Regards Jan, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "fletch" <waugpath@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > Thanks Gary, but no library close to me has it listed. > > Arnie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Luke" <gary@feraltek.com.au> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > > >> At 06:08 PM 22/02/2009, you wrote: >> >> Arnie >> >> Libraries Australia is the site to check for which library holds what >> around the country. For a CD pubication like this some local >> libraries might not have entered it into this database. Many local >> libraries now have an online catalogue. >> >> http://librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au >> >> Put part of the title into the search, then click "Get this item". >> >> >> Gary >> >> ============================ >> >>>Would a copy of that cd be available at a local library ? >>> > >>> > There's notes and references for all these pubs on the SAG CD called >>> > "Pubs and Publicans in the County of Cumberland to 1850". >> >> _________________________________ >> Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au >> Sydney, Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello List This is my brick wall; I am trying to find the Goverment Lumber Yard that my convict Daniel Canvin 1820> was employed. I had it all nicely pigeon holed and I was quoting in my research the Lumber Yard that was in Sydney Town corner of George and Bridge Street. I then obtained the General Muster List of NSW 1823, 1824, 1825, and here I find him under Goverment Employment at Emu Plains with a spelling of Cannivan. I now have to rethink my research. I was as wondering if anyone knew much about convicts at Emu Plains and if it had a Lumber Yard 1820- 1827. I am aware that Daniel ended up working for the Badgery Family all of his life however I am not sure when his Goverment Employemt ended and his work for the Badgery family began. I am also wondering why I can't find Daniel in 1822 Muster I'd be so grateful for any help. Jenny

Thanks Gary, but no library close to me has it listed. Arnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Luke" <gary@feraltek.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > At 06:08 PM 22/02/2009, you wrote: > > Arnie > > Libraries Australia is the site to check for which library holds what > around the country. For a CD pubication like this some local > libraries might not have entered it into this database. Many local > libraries now have an online catalogue. > > http://librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au > > Put part of the title into the search, then click "Get this item". > > > Gary > > ============================ > >>Would a copy of that cd be available at a local library ? >> > >> > There's notes and references for all these pubs on the SAG CD called >> > "Pubs and Publicans in the County of Cumberland to 1850". > > _________________________________ > Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au > Sydney, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 06:08 PM 22/02/2009, you wrote: Arnie Libraries Australia is the site to check for which library holds what around the country. For a CD pubication like this some local libraries might not have entered it into this database. Many local libraries now have an online catalogue. http://librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au Put part of the title into the search, then click "Get this item". Gary ============================ >Would a copy of that cd be available at a local library ? > > > > There's notes and references for all these pubs on the SAG CD called > > "Pubs and Publicans in the County of Cumberland to 1850". _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

Thanks Gary, Would a copy of that cd be available at a local library ? Arnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Luke" <gary@feraltek.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > At 02:12 PM 22/02/2009, you wrote: > > Arnie > > There's notes and references for all these pubs on the SAG CD called > "Pubs and Publicans in the County of Cumberland to 1850". > > Most of those names also appear on other pubs on other streets and in > other districts - Windsor, Woolloolooloo, Redfern Parramatta, the > Rocks, Paddington, etc. > > >>I have a copy of map titled ' Plan of Part of the Southeren End and >>Suburbs of the City of Sydney ' signed P.L.Bemi (sic) Suryeyor >>(sic), 1842 and along the southern most part of George Street are >>listed what looks like the names of six ' public houses '. >> >>Starting from the Parramatta Road ( Street ) end : >> >>Hope & Anchor >>Wheatsheaf >>Dog & Duck >>Black Swan >>Steam (?) Engine >>Odd Fellows >> >>These pubs appear to be to the right of the Devonshire Street >>Cemetery and I'm hoping that someone may have some information about >>these establishments. > > > Gary > > ======================= > >>Hears hoping. >> >>Arnie >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>message > > _________________________________ > Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au > Sydney, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 02:43 PM 22/02/2009, you wrote: Michelle & Joy >Is this Pub also called the Miners Exchange .... >Michelle > > Does anyone know where in George Street the Exchange Hotel was > situated. I know it was a fairly well established hotel in 1854. > > Joy Dean The CD mentioned in the reply to Arnie doesn't have any pub with those names. It ends its records at 1850 so doesn't include 1854. There was a Royal Exchange in Pitt St in the 1830s. No pub on the CD has Miners in its name. Gary _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

At 02:12 PM 22/02/2009, you wrote: Arnie There's notes and references for all these pubs on the SAG CD called "Pubs and Publicans in the County of Cumberland to 1850". Most of those names also appear on other pubs on other streets and in other districts - Windsor, Woolloolooloo, Redfern Parramatta, the Rocks, Paddington, etc. >I have a copy of map titled ' Plan of Part of the Southeren End and >Suburbs of the City of Sydney ' signed P.L.Bemi (sic) Suryeyor >(sic), 1842 and along the southern most part of George Street are >listed what looks like the names of six ' public houses '. > >Starting from the Parramatta Road ( Street ) end : > >Hope & Anchor >Wheatsheaf >Dog & Duck >Black Swan >Steam (?) Engine >Odd Fellows > >These pubs appear to be to the right of the Devonshire Street >Cemetery and I'm hoping that someone may have some information about >these establishments. Gary ======================= >Hears hoping. > >Arnie > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

Hi Is this Pub also called the Miners Exchange .... Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: <joyldean@bigpond.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > Does anyone know where in George Street the Exchange Hotel was situated. > I > know it was a fairly well established hotel in 1854. > > Joy Dean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fletch" <waugpath@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:12 PM > Subject: [PJ] re-visiting sydney pubs 1815-1830 > > >>I have a copy of map titled ' Plan of Part of the Southeren End and >>Suburbs of the City of Sydney ' signed P.L.Bemi (sic) Suryeyor (sic), 1842 >>and along the southern most part of George Street are listed what looks >>like the names of six ' public houses '. >> >> Starting from the Parramatta Road ( Street ) end : >> >> Hope & Anchor >> >> Wheatsheaf >> >> Dog & Duck >> >> Black Swan >> >> Steam (?) Engine >> >> Odd Fellows >> >> These pubs appear to be to the right of the Devonshire Street Cemetery >> and >> I'm hoping that someone may have some information about these >> establishments. >> >> Hears hoping. >> >> Arnie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) >> Database version: 5.11810 >> http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11810 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >