Hi Karen, No, the marital status was not recorded in the indent records. I have info that her previous surname was Gager and that her maiden name may have been Medcalf; i.e. she was married twice. Russell

Hello Elizabeth I tried to contact you off line however the address bounced twice. Thanks for your reply re. PJ List. I still don't know what I am doing in regards to tracing Daniel Canvin's seven year sentence. I would love to be put in touch as per your offer regarding someone who has done research on the Parramatta Lumber Yard; I must remember to throw my net wide and so who can say where Daniel might turn up. Many thanks for your offer Jenny Elizabeth wrote: There was also a Lumber yard at Parramatta. If you email me off line I can put you in touch with someone who has done a fair bit of research on the Parramatta Lumber yard. Regards Elizabeth Roberts

Hello Lesley and List Lesley thank you so much for being willing to post once more the information on Lumber Yards. I am no nearer the truth however I may just have to skip Daniel Canvin's life during his seven year sentence. Long Bow, I don't suppose anyone can help me find when Daniel Canvin began work with the Badgery Family, South Creek. Or maybe as Lesley mentioned he stayed in goverment work until he had served his sentence. If so, does anyone know how I can track these seven years? Daniel arrived per Elizabeth (3) Dec 1820 for seven year sentence Daniel appears on list victualled H M Magazine 8 Sept 1821 he is at New Lumber Yard Daniel appears on General Muster List 1823 he is at Emu Plains Daniel appears on Permission to Mary, 5 Aug 1826, we have never located his marriage Daniel appears on 1828 census and he is now with the Badgery Family free by servitude Any long bow appreciated Jenny

Today Joan one enjoyed reading the lists of grants and found them ever so interesting, there is mention of one our Edward Powell was given that we did not know about. Thanks again for your time. Regards Kath

Hi Lesley Thank you. I know I have seen her listed as a widow somewhere. Others have noted in their research, it was her shipping record so I am at least able to cross this off the list. Thank you for your help Karen On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Karen > > No, it doesn't unfortunately > > > > regards > > >     Lesley Uebel >     mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >     CLAIM A CONVICT >     http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Karen > Hodges > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:02 PM > To: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] 1817 ship Lord Melville > > > Does anyone know please, if the ship records  for the Lord Melville > arriving 24 Feb 1817, record the martial status of the convict women > on board? > > I am researching Mary Beavitt from this ship. > > Thank you > Karen Hodges > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi again I should add that she was tried under the name of Mary Beverton on 20 April 1814 See Old Bailey Trials Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Karen Hodges Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:02 PM To: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] 1817 ship Lord Melville Does anyone know please, if the ship records for the Lord Melville arriving 24 Feb 1817, record the martial status of the convict women on board? I am researching Mary Beavitt from this ship. Thank you Karen Hodges

Hi Karen No, it doesn't unfortunately regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Karen Hodges Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:02 PM To: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] 1817 ship Lord Melville Does anyone know please, if the ship records for the Lord Melville arriving 24 Feb 1817, record the martial status of the convict women on board? I am researching Mary Beavitt from this ship. Thank you Karen Hodges

Hello Joan, Yes, those are the ones. One of the Robert Marjoram's worked there back in the mid-to-late 1800s, and he also worked at the Mudgee brickworks, but I can't remember which one came first - I think Mudgee. This Robert was the son of William Marjoram the convict, and grandson of Robert Marjoram, the other convict with that surname. I have just received from my Suffolk friend a lovely photo of a street in Woodbridge in Suffolk, and it shows the old Bridewell (prison) where the Marjorams were held for a while before their trial. Liz W. L Nichols wrote: > Somebody recently mention "brickpits a bit south of Newtown" > > Could this be the one on the corner of what is now Sydney Park Road and King Street/The Princes Highway? I know nothing about the history of these brickpits, but I do know that part of them has been preserved (on the Princes Highway frontage). According to the Sydney Street Directory this whole area is now called "Sydney Park" has lots of walking tracks, lakes, and a barbeque/picnic area and toilets/ on the Campbell Road/Euston Road corner. > > No car? Where the preservation part is - is just a very short walk from St Peters railway station. > > I guess more information could be found from the Sydney City Council archives. > > Joan Nichols > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Gerry - sorry to be dragging the chain on this topic. I hope you are still happy to do lookups? Henry Fulham alias James Connolly alias Henry Fallain was tried on 20 October 1829 in Dublin City. Any joy? Sandra S _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of those unwanted christmas presents! Get what you want at ebay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT

Does anyone know please, if the ship records for the Lord Melville arriving 24 Feb 1817, record the martial status of the convict women on board? I am researching Mary Beavitt from this ship. Thank you Karen Hodges

Lyn, I noticed : Samuel HANNA, /Royal Admiral/, 1835 and William BEAVEN, /Mary Ann II/, 1835 On your list of convict ancestors. I am descended from William Beaven and Isabella Hannah (Samuel's daughter) and am organising a family reunion next year to celebrate William's 200th birthday. Please get in touch off list for further info Rick

The kilns and very tall chimneys are still there. If looking for Sydney Park, you won't miss it. Regards Betty Candy ----- Original Message ----- From: "L Nichols" <status22@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:41 AM Subject: [PJ] Sydney Brickpits > Somebody recently mention "brickpits a bit south of Newtown" > > Could this be the one on the corner of what is now Sydney Park Road and > King Street/The Princes Highway? I know nothing about the history of > these brickpits, but I do know that part of them has been preserved (on > the Princes Highway frontage). According to the Sydney Street Directory > this whole area is now called "Sydney Park" has lots of walking tracks, > lakes, and a barbeque/picnic area and toilets/ on the Campbell Road/Euston > Road corner. > > No car? Where the preservation part is - is just a very short walk from St > Peters railway station. > > I guess more information could be found from the Sydney City Council > archives. > > Joan Nichols > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1974 - Release Date: 02/26/09 14:51:00

1788 headstone http://www.ulladulla.info/historian/1788headstone.pdf Cathy Dunn -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JENNIFER STAINES Sent: Friday, 27 February 2009 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [PJ] Old Sydney Cove Hi Cathy I wrote: Illustration: Sydney in 1803 - buildings visible... You asked: Does the book give an image/drawing ??? No, not specifically of the cemetery grounds per se. Only an illustration of 'A Relic of Early George Street' [as per caption]- which refers to a 'gravestone here sketched was found in Bethel Street about 30 years ago [?c1890]. It was used as a paving stone, and had probably been moved from the first cemetery nearby for that purpose.' Cheers Jennie in W.A.

Somebody recently mention "brickpits a bit south of Newtown" Could this be the one on the corner of what is now Sydney Park Road and King Street/The Princes Highway? I know nothing about the history of these brickpits, but I do know that part of them has been preserved (on the Princes Highway frontage). According to the Sydney Street Directory this whole area is now called "Sydney Park" has lots of walking tracks, lakes, and a barbeque/picnic area and toilets/ on the Campbell Road/Euston Road corner. No car? Where the preservation part is - is just a very short walk from St Peters railway station. I guess more information could be found from the Sydney City Council archives. Joan Nichols

Hello Lyn, Welcome to the List. I have a little information for you. It's taken from a book I have titled "Land Grants 1788-1809 - A record of registered grants and leases in NSW; VDL and Norfolk Island" published by Australian Documents Library circa 1982. At the back there is an index of all the names - with the proviso (a) that obviously there was more than 1 person with the same name - but the authors cannot determine this ie there are 3 listings for a John Rowe - the first one would have to be your man I would think, but are the other 2 for him or other John Rowe's (b) spelling of last name may not be correct and therefore it might not be the correct person. John ROWE (a) 1792 - Book 1A Grants by Governor Philip. Grant No 39 was given to a John Brown on Feb. 22. 1792. He was granted 50 acres at the Northern Boundary Farms. Rent 1/- per year commencing after 10 years. Then follows: "Cancelled and the land granted to J. Rowe". I don't know when it was cancelled or when it was granted to J Rowe. Grant No 38 was cancelled on 15 Sept. 1824. (b) 1797 - Book 2B Grants by Governor Hunter No 703 May 1 John Rowe Granted 60 acres in the district of Prospect Hill. Rent 1/- per year commencing after 10 years. (c) 1809 - Book 4D (All land grants and leases Oct-Dec) No 1618 Oct 24 John Rowe 100 acres in Prospect Parish You may be able to find out more information about where these grants were by visiting the Land Titles Office in Macquarie Street (Hyde Park end). There are no lockers there for bags, but you are able to use their cafeteria on the top floor. Mary Wade and Isabella Manson I hope you have read the book "The Floating Brothel" by Sian (?spelling) Rees. This may not mention your two ladies, but gives a good account of the voyage of the Lady Juliana. Also the ABC recently re-showed "The Floating Brothel" which showed several people researching their ancestor who was on the Lady Juliana. Your 2 ladies probably married men already on Norfolk Island (my 4xggreat grandmum did) and may have been moved to VDL (Tasmania) circa 1807 or later. Joan Nichols

Thanks John Next time I am in Sydney I'll check it out. It all means so much more when you know a 'story' associated with the historic site... ...and it makes us think about what lies just below the surface I suppose. Thanks for your info. Cheers Jennie in W.A. -----Original Message----- from John Re: [PJ] Burial Grounds: "The Story of Old George Street" by Charles H. Bertie There's a nice photo of the surface just scraped off to a very small depth along the footpath on the northern side of the town hall that clearly shows a number of grave outlines there...

Hi Cathy You wrote off-list - but I will reply to the PJ List - as others might have an interest: I wrote: Illustration: Sydney in 1803 - buildings visible... You asked: Does the book give an image/drawing ??? No, not specifically of the cemetery grounds per se. Only an illustration of 'A Relic of Early George Street' [as per caption]- which refers to a 'gravestone here sketched was found in Bethel Street about 30 years ago [?c1890]. It was used as a paving stone, and had probably been moved from the first cemetery nearby for that purpose.' A possible reference is if you go to: http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/ebindshow.pl?doc=crux/a127;seq=83 - the Crux - rare maps from the State Library of NSW are online. You will see the 'Sketch of Sydney Cove, Port Jackson in the County of Cumberland, New South Wales, July 1788'. That map has been reproduced in the Bertie book which he captions as 'Sydney Cove in July 1788'....and stated: 'Where the figures 8 and 9 appear on the left-hand side was a level strip of land which Governor Phillip planted some of his public buildings. The building just below 9 was the first HOSPITAL, what stood in what is now George Street, near Globe Street. On the lower 8 the storehouses were built. The figure 4 shows the line of what was to be the principal street, which was to be 200 feet wide. All the Cove from the head near the letter B to the figure 4 1/2 has been filled up, and the end of Pitt Street is now close to that figure. Perhaps a better early cadastral map which shows all the known rivers e.g. George's River; Cook's River etc & extensive list of Districts including Parramatta/ Hawkesbury Settlement / Toongabbee / Sydney Cove/ Port Jackson/ Field of Mars/ Eastern Boundary / Field of Concord/ Petersham / Profpect Hill (sic Prospect) / Hunters Hill / Liberty Plains/ York Place / Mulgrave Place / Bulanaming / and so on. This is located on the same website are Maps associated with Flinder's voyages. You might have to Zoom up the image to read some of the text. It is called 'A Topographical Plan of the Settlements of New South Wales, including Port Jackson, Botany Bay, and Broken Bay Surveyed by Mefsrs [Messrs] Grimes & Flinders. Communicated by Lt Col. Paterson, of the New South Wales Corps'. There is another map copyright to the State Library of NSW - Mitchell Library which is of a 'Sketch & Description of the Settlement at SYDNEY COVE PORT JACKSON in the COUNTY of CUMBERLAND taken by a tranported Convict on the 16th of April, 1788 which was not quite 3 months after Commodore Phillips landed there.' Ref ZMB2 811.17/1788/1. It is quite detailed and if you Zoom it up - you should be able to read the 11 x Ship's Names and the References list matching a letter from the Alphabet with the location. Several tall ships are sketched in the Harbour - which may correspond to the 11 ships mentioned earlier. The biggest feature shown, apart from the Bay and Cove, is the FARM. Buildings are coloured in red (which is handy) and the ships appear scaled to their actual size (if you follow what I mean). E.G. Description provided by the State Library NSW online catalogue and partially reproduced below: CALL NO: Mitchell Library ZM3 811.1/1799/1 'Cadastral map showing plots of land and plot number. Relief shown by hachures and soundings. Includes LIST OF LANDHOLDERS arranged by the DISTRICT. Includes George Bass' discovery of coal at Coalcliff, 5 Aug. 1797. Shows 'Martins Islands' in Illawarra, named after young William Martin who sailed in the Tom Thumb with Bass and Flinders, March 1796. 'Sandy Point' (Sandon Point), Tom Thumbs Lagoon and 'Canoe River' at the southern extremity of map. Also available in a DIGITISED FORM via the Internet at http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/ebindshow.pl?doc=flinders_maps/a125;seq=9 . Included in the James Fairfax Matthew Flinders Electronic Archive at the State Library of NSW.' Cheers Jennie in W.A.

Hi Cathy You wrote: Does the book mention the Old Sydney Burial Ground - where the Sydney Town Hall is today Yes it does - but it is not indexed [sounds like a job I must find time to do one day] - so although it is only 37 pages, it is closely typed text - and hard to immediately pick up an individual reference to a place. On one level, the book basically is the author 'walking' through George Street and commenting on what was on a particular site post 1788 settlement. It is quite fascinating and full of adverts and illustrations (also not listed for easy reference <sigh> ). However, am beginning to think this slim volume is a bit of a treasure because it is full of places, names, illustrations, and details. Even mentions 'a shop tenanted by Cowles and Dunn, now part of Messrs. F. Lassetter and Company's premises, the White Horse Tavern stood till it was removed across the road.' [picked up on the'Dunn' name, you see <grin>. [Note: all capitalisation below is my emphasis]. ...and the old LUMBER YARD was also mentioned (an enquiry from another PJ Lister) - so I will try to extract that info some time over the next few days. In the meantime, the LUMBER YARD was located: 'corner of George and Bridge Streets...where the convicts in the Hyde Park Barracks were employed...' And another location snippet: 'a little beyond the southern boundary of the LUMBER YARD ...come to what is now Bond Street..' Although Bond Street did not exist until 1832. The old burial grounds are mentioned in part: Page 11: 'Site of first hospital in Australia... building stood just a little north of the present Globe Street...soon filled...overflow of patients accommodated in tents...misery...blankets and sheets for the hospital had been forgotten in the equipment of the First Fleet...beds of grass, and drugs...inferior quality. When a man died the unfortunates near him stripped his body, before it was cold, of its clothing...gradually the hospital quarters and surgeon's residences extended along George Street until they reached from Globe Street to a little north of Argyle Street. Illustration: Sydney in 1803 - buildings visible. 'As a natural concomitant to the hospital a CEMETERY was established near Globe Street, and the tombstone of George Graves of the 'Sirius' came from this site.' [the one found in Bethel Street and used as a paving stone to plug a gap in the mud...]. Page 33: quoting reminiscences of J.B.M. - 'The brewery reservoir of Terry Hughes [Albion Brewery] stood within the drainage area of the old DEVONSHIRE STREET CEMETERY, which imparted a special flavour to the beer.' [my comment: Oh dear!!] Page 32: 'On the Druitt street end was the watch-house. On the other side of Druitt Street, where the TOWN HALL now stands, was one of the early Sydney CEMETERIES. The FIRST was in George Street North, in the vicinity of Globe Street; the SECOND was near the corner of Clarence and Margaret Streets; and the THIRD was on the Town Hall site, and was in use as early as 1793, and closed as a CEMETERY in 1820. For some 50 years it remained as an eye-sore to the city; during the day boys played between the tombstones and at night it was the haunt of bad characters. There yet probably remain a number of coffins in the Town Hall grounds, while others may have the wood blocks of George Street as their covering. One, I know, is under the footpath just on the south side of the southern gateway entrance to the Town Hall. In 1904, when the electric light cables were being laid along this footpath, a corner of the coffin was disclosed. It was not disturbed, but a bottle containing an inscription and newspaper of the day was placed inside, and the coffin cemented over. Little did the relatives of that man dream when they lowered the body into its grave that it would have one day for its tombstone a magnificent building, that over it would pass daily the tread of a thousand feet, and that within a foot of its resting place would pass a mysterious current with powers so incredible that it would transcend their wildest dreams. When the City Council was looking for a site for a Town Hall in 1843 it asked the Government to vest in it the OLD BURIAL GROUND for this purpose. The Governor agreed, and introduced a Bill in 1845, but a select committee reported against the proposal, and the measure was dropped. I do not know if the letter of an irate objector to the proposal which appeared in one of the papers in September, 1845, had anything to do with the rejection of the proposal. So that you may judge I quote the first paragraph: - "Gracious Heavens! Is it possible that, in the nineteenth century, when the univeral diffusion of human intelligence and knowledge is declared to be the Ultima Thule of sublunary blessedness, in the promotion of which her most Christian Majesty Queen Victoria, of all the lords, temporal and spiritual, of her Imperial Parliament profess to combine, that her Majesty's representative in Botany Bay should be so abandoned to all sense of decency, allegiance, and duty to her most gracious Majesty, and her most loved subjects in this remote territory, as to propose a project so monstrous, so inhuman, and unchristian as the sacrilegious spoliation of the sacred repositories of the silent dead." When the members of the Legislative Council came to the surface again, after reading this, they also probably ejaculated "Gracious Heavens!". The Council were more successful in a later application, and on March 3, 1869, an Act was passed vesting the site in the Council.' Sincerely hope this helps you out. And also hope I haven't overstepped any PJ-List protocols with a number of quotes from this Old George Street book. Will also post to the List in case others are interested. Cheers Jennie in W.A.

Hello All, I am a new member to the list and have 21 direct convict ancestors (with possiblity for more to turn up yet). 1 is my 6 times greatgrandmother, 6 are my 5 times great grandparents, 9 my 4 times greatgrandparents and 5 my 3 times greatgrandparents. I have varying amounts of information on each, some I have very little on, so am always looking for more info. Will list them in order as they arrived in PJ: John ROWE, /Scarborough/, 1788 Mary WADE, /Lady Juliana/, 1790 Isabella MANSON, /Lady Juliana/, 1790 Jonathan BROOKER, /Atlantic/, 1791 Joseph CRAFT, /Albermarie/, 1791 William RAY, /Albermarie/, 1791 Thomas CRUMP, /Surprise/, 1794 Elizabeth HARRISON, /Surprise/, 1794 Mary HARRISON, /Surprise,/ 1794 (daughter of Elizabeth, both convicts) Sarah ROBINSON, /Earl Cornwallis/, 1801 Thomas RUDD, /Earl Cornwallis,/ 1801 Abraham WHITTAKER, /Coramandel/, 1802 Mary CABLE (KABLE), /Experiment/, 1804 Edmund BURKE, /Tellicherry/, 1806 Ann GIBBONS, /William Pitt/, 1806 Mary CALLAGHAN, /Canada/, 1817 John FERGUSON, /Asia 1/, 1820 Robert WOODBRIDGE, /Adamant/, 1821 John TIGHE, /Parmelia/, 1834 Samuel HANNA, /Royal Admiral/, 1835 William BEAVEN, /Mary Ann II/, 1835 Cheers, Lyn

Hi Jenny As I wrote the other day, there was also the Lumber Yard at Parramatta and also apart from Sydney, there was one at Newcastle. Emu Plains was mainly an Agricultural farm, but of course, the trees would have had to be cleared beforehand. There is no mention of a Lumber Yard per se in the Colonial Sec. Index or the HRA. Governor Macquarie left in 1821 and sent a report of the public buildings and works and other useful improvements he made in NSW and its dependencies from 1 January 1810 to 30 November 1821. I typed up this report a few years ago, but will just extract mention of any Lumber Yard and Emu Plains. LUMBER YARD mentions; At Sydney in an vicinity of:- A large commodious brick built Lumber Yard, situated nearly in the centre of the town, containing all the requisite Workshops and covered in Saw Pitts for the Mechanics and Artificers in the immediate service of Government, with an Arsenal for Arms and rooms for various stores, and also offices for the Acting Chief Engineer and Principal Superintendent of Convicts, having an extensive area of ground for timber and the whole premises enclosed with a stone wall 12 feet high. At Parramatta:- A new brick built Lumber Yard with all descriptions of work shops and covered in Saw Pitts, for the different Artificers and Mechanics in the employ of Government, including stables for the working horses and bullocks, hay-lofts and store rooms for store and grain, and also offices for the Superintendent and his clerks, the whole of these premises being contiguous to the convict Barracks and enclosed with a high brick wall. At Newcastle:- A complete Lumber Yard, enclosed with a strong stockade, containing all descriptions of Work Shops, and covered in Saw Pits for the Government Mechanics and Artificers. EMU PLAINS mentions Agricultural farm at Emu Plains -------------------------------------- I accordingly employed numerous Gangs of them in all parts of the Colony in repairing the old public roads and bridges, and in constructing new ones. I also established a Government Agricultural Farm on " Emu Plains," one of the richest and most fertile tracts of land in the whole colony, appointing Mr. Richard Fitzgerald to be Superintendent and Inspector of Government Agriculture, for which situation he is eminently qualified, being a most honest upright good man and perfectly well acquainted with all the branches of Agriculture, having been employed several years in the same situation by my predecessors, Governors Phillip, Hunter and King, all of whom were highly pleased with his conduct. Convicts employed at Emu Plains -------------------------------------- To this Establishment were sent those convicts, who were not required for the settlers, for the public roads and bridges or other Government purposes. They are there most usefully employed in productive labour, which, from the most correct calculation, more than repays to Government the amount of their maintenance and all the other expenses of the Establishment, there being 300 Convicts employed there on the 30th of November last. Proposed reservation at Emu Plains ----------------------------------------- 37. This tract of land is so extremely fertile, and so peculiarly well situated for a Government Agriculture Establishment, and so useful as a nursery for instructing the younger descriptions of convicts in the art of husbandry, as well as so valuable in many other points of view to Government, that I cannot resist the desire of most respectfully recommending to your Lordship never to permit this fine tract of land to be alienated from the Crown and to instruct the present and all future Governors accordingly. At Emu Plains ------------------- 1. A good substantial brick built house, one storey and a half high, for the residence and accommodation of the Superintendent of Government Agriculture, having two spare rooms reserved therein for the occasional residence of the Governor with a Kitchen and Stables. 2. A weather boarded Provision Store and Granary 3. A weather boarded House as a Barrack for the Store Keeper 4. A weather boarded Barrack for the Principal Overseer of Government Agriculture. 5. A weather boarded Barrack and Guard House for the Military detachment stationed at Emu Plains 6. A small log house as a Lock Up place or Prison for the refractory convicts. 7. Two large strong weather boarded Barns with lofts for the wheat and maize crops. 8. Strong log and weather boarded Huts for the residence and accommodation of 500 male convicts with Kitchen Garden, enclosed and attached to the said Huts for the use of the convicts. 9. An extensive Kitchen Garden enclosed with a strong paling for the use of the Superintendent, Overseers, Store Keeper and Military Guard. Eight hundred acres of good ground for the purposes of agriculture, cleared of the timber, enclosed and subdivided into separate large fields, two hundred acres of which ground have already been cleared of the stumps, and five hundred acres have been this last season under crops of wheat, maize, oats, barley, rye, flax and tobacco. The rich fine tract of land called Emu Plains, consists upwards of 2,000 acres of ground and by the far the best soil in the colony for cultivation, It is situated on the west side of the River Nepean and at the foot of the Blue Mountains. This most valuable tract of land is of so much importance and so useful in every point of view to the Government that it never ought to be alienated. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jenny T Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:41 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] Lumber Yards Hello Lesley and Wayne Thank you both for your replies and comments. I am still a little tentative in regards to how I should record Daniel Canvin's whereabouts. Some extra information has just been uncovered since I last wrote to the List. Daniel came from a family in Bristol and his father (also Daniel) was a blacksmith and a Bristol Burgess. Daniel arrived on the Elizabeth 3 Dec 1820 and I now have Daniel recorded, taken from theColonial Secretary's Papers, as Employed at New Lumber Yard on List of all persons victualled from H M Magazine 8 Sep 1821 reel 6016, 4/5781, p 95. Am I to take it that the NEW Lumber Yard is at Emu Plains? I also believe from another Lister that lumber would have been one of the main activities at the Emu Plains prison farm. I have done extensive research for the Lumber Yard that was in George Street and I uderstand what a hub of industry took place in lumber yards and with Daniel's background I would imagine that he would have worked as a blacksmith as that is what he did for the rest of his life. I too, have not been able to find a Ticket of Leave and I was interested to hear from you Lesley that it may have meant that he remained working for the government until his sentence expired in 1827. Is there anyway of finding out where this NEW Lumber Yard may have been 1821? Many thanks for Jenny