William BLAKE, age 42, buried Old Sydney Burial Ground, 21 May 1817, Free Died 20 May 1817, no ship is recorded in the St Phillips Church Early Church records Cathy Dunn Hello Lesley and Listers, I am researching convict William BLAKE and hope that someone will be able to help me please. 1817 Wm Blake died aged 42, Sydney 1822 - Wm Blake died Sydney Harbour, possibly drowned Regards, Marje

Hi Lorraine, I had a look on the NSW Department of Lands web-site http://parishmaps.lands.nsw.gov.au/pmap.html and found a William Morgan occupying 80 acres at Yaralla Bay, Concord. The image ID for this map is 14094902. Unfortunately there is no date for the map so I don't know how much help it will be to you, but it does look fairly early. Bye, Anne > From: status22@tpg.com.au > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:20:25 +1100 > Subject: Re: [PJ] George Morgan convict & William Morgan > > Lorraine, > > I have the following information for you - I presume for the date of the > grant that he is your William Morgan. A William Morgan received 3 grants, > but whether this William is one person; two people or 3 people we have no > way of telling. Because William's first 2 grants were at Concord, I tend to > think that they are the one person. > > (a) 1794 - Book 1A - Grants by Franics Grose. > > No 154 William Morgan Feb. 20 > Granted 25 acres in the district of Concord. Rent: 1/- per year commencing > after 5 years. > > (b) 1795 - Book 1A - Grants by William Paterson > No 456 William Morgan July 22 > Granted 55 acres in the district of Concord. Rent 1/- per year commencing > after 5 years. > > (c) William's name is also included in some sort of "missing land > rants" - which I don't quite understand. He is listed as 1 of 17 who > received a grant (or grants) of land "in common". Can't tell you much more > than that. > > No George Morgan is listed. There is a Richard Morgan listed who had bought > land from people who had been granted land on Norfolk Island. First > mentioned as having bought someone's grant (or part thereof) in 1794 which > he surrendered to the Govt. in exchange for land in Hobart. > > You might have to make a trip to the Land Titles Office in Macquarie > Streeet, Sydney (St James Station end), to see where William's grants were. > I don't know if that information is also held by State Records, Kingswood > which would obviously be a lot easier for you to get to. > > Reference: Land Grants 1788-1809. a record of registered grants and > leases in NSW: VDL and Norfolk Island. Published by the Australian > Documents Library circa 1982. > > Joan Nichols > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Looking to change your car this year? Find car news, reviews and more http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT

Hi Marje, I can only find one William Blake who arrived on the Minerva in 1800. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of MarjeDawn@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:34 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] William BLAKE Hello Lesley and Listers, I am researching convict William BLAKE and hope that someone will be able to help me please. There are 3 convicts of that name who were early arrivals in the colony and I am having some difficulty in eliminating the ones who do not fit into the family story. The information I have found is from the Indents,Musters,Col. Sec. papers, Irish Convicts to Australia -Peter Mayberry site and BMD. They are - 1.William Blake, 29, County Wexford, Ireland, a rebel, had been sentenced to death, commuted to Life as a transported convict, per "Sugar Cane"17th September, 1792, became a self employed shoemaker and shopkeeper in Sydney, granted a CP . I think this fellow acted as a juror on several inquests - Col Sec papers. He may have had a relationship in 1801 with Eleanor Allicot 2. William Blake, 23, a wool comber of County Tyrone, Ireland was sentenced to 7 years transportation in August 1799, arrived per "Minerva" 11th January 1800, became free by servitude and was listed as a labourer for Thomas Prosser in the 1814 Muster. ( Comment on the indent- Discharged 14 May 1799) ? 3. Wm Blake (2) per Minerva 1800, from Tipperary Ireland, tried Aug. 1798, 7 yrs One of these men was granted land at Kissing Point. The William Blake I am researching married in 1807 to Harriott Edwards,19, of Cornwall who was sentenced to transportation for life on 22nd March 1800, arriving at Port Jackson per the transport "Nile 1" on 14th December, 1801. She was assigned as a Government Servant. They had 4 children. Perhaps someone may have a connection to this family? Their son Thomas married Jane, daughter of convicts John Mayo per Royal Admiral 1792 and Mary Weldon per Glatton 1803 The 1814 Muster shows a Wm BLAKE, per Speedy as a shopkeeper, I suspect this is an error and should be Sugar Cane as I could not find a convict by that name on the Speedy Indent. 1817 Wm Blake died aged 42, Sydney 1822 - Wm Blake died Sydney Harbour, possibly drowned Sorry for the length of this request - any help will be most appreciated, Regards, Marje

Hi Lorraine. On the SAG CD "Convicts to NSW 1788-1812" there are 2 George Morgans, "Barwell" 1798 and "Minorca/Canada" 1801. There are 7 William Morgans. "Scarborough" 1788, "Admiral Barrington" 1891, "Barwell" 1798, "Hillsborough" 1799, "Minorca/Canada" 1801, "Anne" 1810 ans "Indefatigabe" 1812. According to SAG's Soldiers and Marines 1787-1830, a William Morgan, Private, was part of Capt. Macarthurs Company NSW Corps. He appears on the Pay List 1798. Hope this is of some help. Terry

Thank you Cathy for this helpful information. William Blake of Wexford, per Sugar Cane would be 46 and William of Tyrone, per Minerva would be 40 in 1817, so either one is still a possibility. There are some references to his wife Harriott in the Col Sec papers so that might help to eliminate one of them. Tis back to the library tomorrow ! many thanks Marje > William BLAKE, age 42, buried Old Sydney Burial Ground, 21 May 1817, Free > Died 20 May 1817, no ship is recorded in the St Phillips Church Early Church > records > > Cathy Dunn >

Thank you Lesley for your prompt reply regarding William Blake per Minerva. I have 2 references for William BLAKE taken from the film of the Indent of the Minerva, both gave different details of age, origin, trial date and sentence, so I thought they were for 2 separate convicts. Refs - 1. film 625 page 371 shows Wm Blake, Co.Tipperary, August 1798, 7 years 2. film 625 page 359 shows Wm Blake, 23, wool comber, Co.Tyrone August 1799, life, plus the comment - Discharged 14 th May1799. Would this comment refer to a Pardon? Do you know whether the second entry is in error and should refer to another transport perhaps? many thanks, Marje > Hi Marje, > > I can only find one William Blake who arrived on the Minerva in 1800. > > Regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > Hello Lesley and Listers, > > I am researching convict William BLAKE and hope that someone will be able to > help me please. > > There are 3 convicts of that name who were early arrivals in the colony and > I > am having some difficulty in eliminating the ones who do not fit into the > family story. > The information I have found is from the Indents,Musters,Col. Sec. papers, > Irish Convicts to Australia -Peter Mayberry site and BMD. > They are - > > 1.William Blake, 29, County Wexford, Ireland, a rebel, had been sentenced to > death, commuted to Life as a transported convict, per "Sugar Cane"17th > September, 1792, became a self employed shoemaker and shopkeeper in Sydney, > granted > a CP . > I think this fellow acted as a juror on several inquests - Col Sec papers. > He may have had a relationship in 1801 with Eleanor Allicot > > 2. William Blake, 23, a wool comber of County Tyrone, Ireland was sentenced > to 7 years transportation in August 1799, arrived per "Minerva" 11th January > 1800, became free by servitude and was listed as a labourer for Thomas > Prosser > in the 1814 Muster. ( Comment on the indent- Discharged 14 May 1799) ? > 3. Wm Blake (2) per Minerva 1800, from Tipperary Ireland, tried Aug. 1798, 7 > > yrs > One of these men was granted land at Kissing Point. > The William Blake I am researching married in 1807 to Harriott Edwards, Snipped

Congratulations to you Lesley, and to all who have contributed to the list over these 8 years. A wealth of knowledge has been shared and information gained by all. Best Wishes, Marje

Hello Lesley and Listers, I am researching convict William BLAKE and hope that someone will be able to help me please. There are 3 convicts of that name who were early arrivals in the colony and I am having some difficulty in eliminating the ones who do not fit into the family story. The information I have found is from the Indents,Musters,Col. Sec. papers, Irish Convicts to Australia -Peter Mayberry site and BMD. They are - 1.William Blake, 29, County Wexford, Ireland, a rebel, had been sentenced to death, commuted to Life as a transported convict, per "Sugar Cane"17th September, 1792, became a self employed shoemaker and shopkeeper in Sydney, granted a CP . I think this fellow acted as a juror on several inquests - Col Sec papers. He may have had a relationship in 1801 with Eleanor Allicot 2. William Blake, 23, a wool comber of County Tyrone, Ireland was sentenced to 7 years transportation in August 1799, arrived per "Minerva" 11th January 1800, became free by servitude and was listed as a labourer for Thomas Prosser in the 1814 Muster. ( Comment on the indent- Discharged 14 May 1799) ? 3. Wm Blake (2) per Minerva 1800, from Tipperary Ireland, tried Aug. 1798, 7 yrs One of these men was granted land at Kissing Point. The William Blake I am researching married in 1807 to Harriott Edwards,19, of Cornwall who was sentenced to transportation for life on 22nd March 1800, arriving at Port Jackson per the transport "Nile 1" on 14th December, 1801. She was assigned as a Government Servant. They had 4 children. Perhaps someone may have a connection to this family? Their son Thomas married Jane, daughter of convicts John Mayo per Royal Admiral 1792 and Mary Weldon per Glatton 1803 The 1814 Muster shows a Wm BLAKE, per Speedy as a shopkeeper, I suspect this is an error and should be Sugar Cane as I could not find a convict by that name on the Speedy Indent. 1817 Wm Blake died aged 42, Sydney 1822 - Wm Blake died Sydney Harbour, possibly drowned Sorry for the length of this request - any help will be most appreciated, Regards, Marje

Ron, Aren't you confusing the two sources? If you went into NLA you presumably examined the microfilm with 1828, 29 etc etc. On the other hand, the EResources copy online on NLA EResources website is a copy of the British Library set which does not have 1828 etc. Frank M. > 1. Re: Dublin trial records (Rhonda Flowers) > 2. Re: Dublin trial records (Rhonda Flowers) > 3. Convict Assignment (Jenny T) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:01:14 +1100 > From: "Rhonda Flowers" <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Dublin trial records > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5B6FC7F289B64F58A6086BC1F37EB607@rhondaPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Yes I can't find those years online either. > > Regards > Rhonda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Minuet" <minuet9@internode.on.net> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PJ] Dublin trial records > > > > Interesting, as there was no 1829 there when I looked last week. > > Off to try again > > > > At 11:48 PM 25/02/2009, you wrote: > >>Hi Min, > >> > >>The National Library in Canberra has copies of the Freeman's Journal for > >>that period and only yesterday I viewed copies of the 1828-1829 issues. > >> > >>The Library's website is www.nla.gov.au > >>Search the Library's catalogue on their EResources link > >> > >>Ron Norton > >>Canberra > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >

Hi Lorraine, My answer yesterday stated that George and William Morgan did not arrive as convicts on the "Albemarle" Your question to the PJ list was as follows: Can anyone help me with some info on GEORGE MORGAN arrived 1791 on "ALBEMARLE" or WILLIAM MORGAN also arrived on the "Albemarle". Both convicts ??? Your question with the ???? marks implied (well, to me anyway) that you were not sure but I answered the question as posed. Before I answered I did check the Indent for the "Albemarle" and as I know that the indents in that time frame listed many who did not actually embark or were replaced by others and not noted on the Indent and some arrived on a different transport I did check every Muster available and unless I missed one no convict named Morgan ever arrived on the "Albemarle". As your question was quite specific I didn't list the convicts with the same names who arrived in the time frame although I could have. I cannot find on that Queensland web site a Morgan convict who arrived on the "Albemarle" although it does include a William Morgan who arrived on ONE of the following transports - Active, Albermarle, Atlantic, Barrington, Britannia, Mary Ann, Matilda, Salamander and William and Mary - this web site obviously has not worked out, as yet, which convict arrived on which transport. The Indent for the "Admiral Barrington" named just the "Barrington" on the Queensland web site has a William Morgan but I cannot find him on any Muster so he possibly did not embark. That web site also states that a transport "William and Mary" arrived in 1791 but it was named "William and Ann" OK, now onto the research done by your grandfather in the 1950's and you state: "" George Morgan (came free) aged 15yrs, Profession Brickmaker arrived Oct 1791 on the "Albemarle" the same ship that carried his prospective father-in-law the convict Edward Collins and his wife Elizabeth who gave birth to the daughter Ann Collins in the waters off Sydney hds. George and Ann were married ? 1806/7 ( no record found to date). Ann was 16yrs and George 30yrs ( they had 15 children)"" I don't know what was available in the 1950's as I only started researching in about 1980, but could it be that he may have made that up for want of not knowing on which ship George arrived ? The Indents for the "Minorca" and "Canada" transports that arrived in 1801 were combined as both arrived the same day. A William and a George Morgan arrived on these transports. I don't subscribe to Ancestry ( huge American company) so cannot comment on them stating that William and George arriving on the "Albemarle" but as you also give the years 1796 & 1797 and that the "Albemarle" arrived in 1791 they possibly have it wrong. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Paul,Lorraine,Des Heuston Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:42 AM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com; aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [PJ] George Morgan convict Re George Morgan & William Morgan. Thankyou for your response. Lesley & Lyn. I do know there were many persons by these names who came to Australia. My grandfather had researched them back in the 1950's and his notes showed a reference to; George Morgan (came free) aged 15yrs ,Profession Brickmaker arrived Oct 1791 on the "Albemarle" the same ship that carried his prospective father-in-law the convict Edward Collins and his wife Elizabeth who gave birth to the daughter Ann Collins in the waters off Sydney hds. George and Ann were married ? 1806/7 ( no record found to date). Ann was 16yrs and George 30yrs ( they had 15 children) We do have copies of their death certs. ( Ancestry docs re Australian Convict Transportation 1791-1868 ref HO11/1 shows both William and George Morgan as convicts 7yrs terms 1796&1797 ship Albemarle) Also reference to both William and George on the QLD site. Further research showed a George Morgan convict arrived the Canada Dec 1801 also Brickmaker and it is this G. Morgan that has been accepted in the families history. My problem is that records pop up with reference to "William Morgan" and we haven't yet been able to find parents for the George Morgan's !!! Hence I am ever doubtful and still searching for answers. I have been researching for well over 30yrs myself and am currently helping with the updating of our Family's Story " A Colonial Brickmakers Family" . Any further help would be gratefully received . Lorraine from Sth Western Sydney.

Hello Lesley, Thank you for the long list of resource material to aid in the search for our convict's information. I will check whether my local library has any of the microfilms available. Fingers crossed :-) Marje.

Lorraine, I have the following information for you - I presume for the date of the grant that he is your William Morgan. A William Morgan received 3 grants, but whether this William is one person; two people or 3 people we have no way of telling. Because William's first 2 grants were at Concord, I tend to think that they are the one person. (a) 1794 - Book 1A - Grants by Franics Grose. No 154 William Morgan Feb. 20 Granted 25 acres in the district of Concord. Rent: 1/- per year commencing after 5 years. (b) 1795 - Book 1A - Grants by William Paterson No 456 William Morgan July 22 Granted 55 acres in the district of Concord. Rent 1/- per year commencing after 5 years. (c) William's name is also included in some sort of "missing land rants" - which I don't quite understand. He is listed as 1 of 17 who received a grant (or grants) of land "in common". Can't tell you much more than that. No George Morgan is listed. There is a Richard Morgan listed who had bought land from people who had been granted land on Norfolk Island. First mentioned as having bought someone's grant (or part thereof) in 1794 which he surrendered to the Govt. in exchange for land in Hobart. You might have to make a trip to the Land Titles Office in Macquarie Streeet, Sydney (St James Station end), to see where William's grants were. I don't know if that information is also held by State Records, Kingswood which would obviously be a lot easier for you to get to. Reference: Land Grants 1788-1809. a record of registered grants and leases in NSW: VDL and Norfolk Island. Published by the Australian Documents Library circa 1982. Joan Nichols

Thanks Frank Sorry it has taken me a while to respond. Been busy with other things. I am visiting Canberra soon for a couple of days so I am in the process of 'booking' the microfilms for the time frames I am interested in. Thanks again for the information you have provided. Regards Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Murray" <fcmurr@gmail.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: [PJ] Dublin trial records > Rhonda, > > It appears they are different sets of copies of Freeman's Journal, each > with > gaps. I did a little test. > > > On the NLA site go to EResources (whose link is at the top right hand > corner of ther NLA website), then within "19th Century British Library > Newspapers" , and then Dublin Freeman's Journal. It has no/no coverage > between 1822 and 1829 inclusive. For 1837, it has only Jan and (most of) > Feb. > > > > NLA's microfilm reels have much of 1822, including Feb to June which I > have > researched extensively. I have not checked later dates but it follows > that > the microfilm reel is a different set from the British Library's set. > > > > On the other hand http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/ has all of 1822 and > seemingly most (possibly all days of publication) of 1837. > > > > Regards Frank M. > >

Yes I can't find those years online either. Regards Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Minuet" <minuet9@internode.on.net> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [PJ] Dublin trial records > Interesting, as there was no 1829 there when I looked last week. > Off to try again > > At 11:48 PM 25/02/2009, you wrote: >>Hi Min, >> >>The National Library in Canberra has copies of the Freeman's Journal for >>that period and only yesterday I viewed copies of the 1828-1829 issues. >> >>The Library's website is www.nla.gov.au >>Search the Library's catalogue on their EResources link >> >>Ron Norton >>Canberra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Re George Morgan & William Morgan. Thankyou for your response. Lesley & Lyn. I do know there were many persons by these names who came to Australia. My grandfather had researched them back in the 1950's and his notes showed a reference to; George Morgan (came free) aged 15yrs ,Profession Brickmaker arrived Oct 1791 on the "Albemarle" the same ship that carried his prospective father-in-law the convict Edward Collins and his wife Elizabeth who gave birth to the daughter Ann Collins in the waters off Sydney hds. George and Ann were married ? 1806/7 ( no record found to date). Ann was 16yrs and George 30yrs ( they had 15 children) We do have copies of their death certs. ( Ancestry docs re Australian Convict Transportation 1791-1868 ref HO11/1 shows both William and George Morgan as convicts 7yrs terms 1796&1797 ship Albemarle) Also reference to both William and George on the QLD site. Further research showed a George Morgan convict arrived the Canada Dec 1801 also Brickmaker and it is this G. Morgan that has been accepted in the families history. My problem is that records pop up with reference to "William Morgan" and we haven't yet been able to find parents for the George Morgan's !!! Hence I am ever doubtful and still searching for answers. I have been researching for well over 30yrs myself and am currently helping with the updating of our Family's Story " A Colonial Brickmakers Family" . Any further help would be gratefully received . Lorraine from Sth Western Sydney.

Hi Lesley Thank you. Karen On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Karen > > Russell didn't say there was not a list of convicts who arrived on the "Lord > Melville"  as there is and the Indent is available. > > Russell is writing a book about the females and other passengers who did arrive > on that ship and provided some of the sources he is using. > > I look forward to seeing the finished product Russell when you complete it..... > that is if one can ever "complete" such a book. > > > regards >     Lesley Uebel >     mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >     CLAIM A CONVICT >     http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Karen > Hodges > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:15 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] 1817 ship Lord Melville > > > Hi Russell > > Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge of the Lord Melville with > me and for taking the time to recreate a passenger list for the 1816 > voyage. I didn't realise one did not exist, listing at least, the > convict women. > > Thank you again for your help > > Karen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lesley Thanks for posting the list of sources one can use to find convict moments. With regards to this point "Returns of convicts sent to various districts after being disembarked 1814 - 1825. These returns are part of the series Colonial Secretary; Letters sent within the Colony. They show to which district a convict was assigned and frequently the master's name. The names of the convicts do not appear in the indexes to the respective volumes." What is the easiest way please to research the above, since convict names aren't linked to the source, in the index? Karen

Could someone on this list please help me with my problem? Our ancestor John Albert MITCHELL was born abt 1840 in Sydney. He married Sarah Elizabeth SHAW on 2 Jun 1862 at the Newtown Congregational Church, and together they had a LOT of children. But he was very sparing with the information that he gave at his marriage, not mentioning the names of his parents. Also, I have not been able to find a record of his birth, so I guess that he was not baptised. On the birth of his son Thomas Oswald MITCHELL in Feb 1874, he gives the information that he is 33 years old, (1840/1841) born Sydney and a carpenter. I was hoping to find out more about his parents from his death certificate in 1917, but his family doesn't seem to have known anything except that his father was a butcher. His father was listed as 'unknown' Mitchell, butcher, and his mother simply 'unknown'. So, my question: Is there any way of finding a butcher called MITCHELL, who lived in Sydney around 1840, when John Albert was born? Can anyone please suggest where I go from here, trying to find out more about him? Thank you very much, Sylvia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2933 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Yes Lesley, The title is "In the Wake of the Lord Melville'. Apart from a resource for ancestors it will contain info on all the people who had no descendants - they too contributed to our history in some small or greater part. It all adds to the enrichment of our history. Russell Lesley Uebel wrote: >.... but Russell, I would swap the descriptions for the material available about >the earlier convicts any day :) Also, the convicts who arrived early were often >given land grants or leases and are included in many more of the available >Musters. If a convict went AWOL their description was sometimes noted in the SG, >MM or SH. > > >Although the Indent for the Royal Admiral (1792) does not include much apart >from the basic details, I envisage my James Kelly as a wiry young fellow and >from his CP (only) do I know that he had sandy coloured hair. I doubt he was >tall although his colonial born son was just over 6 feet. > > >Have you decided on a title for your book as yet ? > > >

Hello Lesley Thanks for your lovely long list of suggestions I had to pour some liquid over ice in a glass, and gulp it, (giggle). However your time and interest is very much appreciated Jenny snip> I am still on Daniel Canvin's case and this time I am inquiring if there is such a document as an assignment register. Daniel ended up working for the Badgery family first at South Creek, Windsor/Bringelly and then at Majors Creek, Braidwood. I am not at all sure of the date that he joined the family. If he was in goverment service in a lumber yard could those convicts be hired by free settlers while serving their time or did they have to stay in goverment service until they were free.