Hi Lesley and all Patrick Hoyle (Hall) Isabella arriving 9/3/1822 and Hannah Garden/Gardiner Earl of Liverpool 5/4/1831 and Andrew Glannon per William Jardine arriving 11/4/1838. If I could time travel I would like to travel with my friend and fellow researcher Maureen O'Connor. After Maureen had finished with Patrick Hoyle/Hall and Hannah Garden/Gardiner it would be my turn. I would ask Hannah if she ever did marry Andrew Glannon after Patrick Hoyle/Hall died and if so where so we know where to look for a record of the marriage. I would tell her that Maureen and I know that Andrew was the father of at least four of her children maybe five! I would tell her that we know of the baptism of the two small babes Andrew and Elizabeth just before they died but what about Margaret and Louisa .....when and where were they baptised? and was there another son ? the one male who is listed on her death certificate.....what was his name? If I could find Andrew I would ask him why he has been in hiding since 1876.... the last date Maureen and I can find him on the electoral rolls. Where did you die Andrew and where are you buried? Lastly I would ask Hannah what she thinks about the fact that two of her great/great/great grandaughters have stumbled across each other 146 years after her death and spend most of their time trying to find answers to all of the questions above and more. Birthday wishes and hip hip hooray!!! Cheers Rhonda Flowers

Shirley Yes it was - sorry to all Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley McLeod" <shirlmac@bigpond.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Fw: Coffs Harbour Campus > Hi > This came to my websie and I assume it was by mistake. > Shirley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christine" <christine@romteckgrid.com.au> > To: <ingrid.taylor@det.nsw.edu>; <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:23 PM > Subject: [PJ] Fw: Coffs Harbour Campus > > >> Ingird. >> >> I am forwarding you a copy of the email sent to Jon Ingram on Monday 19 >> Jan 2009 regarding the false alarm that was invoiced Inv 45914. Todate we >> have received no further communications from Jon. Please read and follow >> up on this matter. >> >> Christine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sean Joseph >> To: CMH Christine Harmsworth >> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:12 PM >> Subject: Fw: Coffs Harbour Campus >> >> >> Chris, >> >> Unfortunately we did not reply to Ingrid as we had the file waiting for >> Jon to lodge a wavier claim per our detailed email to Jon below. >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean >> >> Sean E Joseph >> Managing Director >> Romteck Grid Pty Ltd >> T 02 9666 1555 >> F 02 9316 9950 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sean Joseph >> To: jon.ingram@det.nsw.edu.au >> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:52 PM >> Subject: Coffs Harbour Campus >> >> >> Jon, >> >> You asked us to investigate regarding false fire alarm charges imposed by >> the NSW Fire Brigades in 2008 for fire alarms on following dates: >> >> 04/10;19/10;25/10; & 29/10 >> 06/11;15/11; and 21/11 >> >> Our Network Manager has checked the monitoring records: - >> >> The installed ASE was operating correctly and had been doing so for >> years. >> >> On 02 October 2008 between 1206 hours and 1238 hours someone on site >> carried out works to the FIP. The ASE reported four power resets and an >> number of wiring tampers / resistors and fire alarms. >> >> Thereafter, as a result of these works, the ASE was affected by whatever >> works had been done to the FIP. The FIP alarm contacts were being >> affected >> by voltage and causing transmission of input isolates and fire alarms to >> the ASE. >> >> When Matthew became aware of the situation he programmed an ASE for >> normally 'Open' alarm contacts instead of the usual normally 'Closed' >> contacts. The reason is we have found using normally open helps to >> overcome FIP problems, especially voltage problems. >> >> Kerry of Kelso Fire installed the specially programmed ASE in place of >> the >> existing ASE and this has worked with nil fire alarms since. >> >> This situation did not arise due to an ASE problem and our involvement >> was >> basically to 'insulate' the ASE from the FIP problems. >> >> What we submit you should do is send us a simple fax instructing us to >> lodge False Alarm Wavier applications with the NSWFB on the basis: >> >> a.. A problem developed with the site FIP >> b.. You took action to stop the false alarms by getting Romteck Grid to >> provide a new ASE and getting Kelso Fire to carry out works including the >> installation of the new ASE with new alarm relays. >> c.. The works have been successful and no false fire alarms since. >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean >> >> Sean E Joseph >> Managing Director >> Romteck Grid Pty Ltd >> T 02 9666 1555 >> F 02 9316 9950 >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 >> 07:41:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1990 - Release Date: 03/08/09 > 17:17:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00

Time Travel – Patrick Hoyle (Hall) and Hannah Garden/Gardiner What a wonderful concept. I like the idea of being invisible to observe them in their daily routines. I would ask Patrick what was the number of the dwelling place in York St Sydney he and Hannah lived in at the time of his death in 1840. How did he come to steal the calico that he was transported for. Was it on impulse or premeditated and did he have a basketmaking shop on the site of the old Anthony Hordens building prior to his death as verbal history goes down through the generations. Hannah I would tell her that I have a copy of the trial that took place at Aberdeen Scotland and that I had travelled on the roads that she and her relatives had roamed the countryside stealing clothes but I would add that if at the time they could have afforded a good lawyer they may have been acquitted as I’m sure they couldn’t possibly have stolen all of the garments mentioned in the trial papers. As a mutual descendant remarked to me with much merriment that the little gang were modern day backpackers who took home too many souvenirs. I would like to ask Hannah about the Glannons. I would also ask them to forgive me for being such a grave digger of their little secrets but tell them for the past so many years I’ve had one wonderful ride and learned so much. Patrick Hoyle (Hall) Isabella arriving 9/3/1822 and Hannah Garden/Gardiner Earl of Liverpool 5/4/1831. Birthday congratulations Lesley and thanks for a wonderful mailing list. Maureen O’Connor

Hi This came to my websie and I assume it was by mistake. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "christine" <christine@romteckgrid.com.au> To: <ingrid.taylor@det.nsw.edu>; <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: [PJ] Fw: Coffs Harbour Campus > Ingird. > > I am forwarding you a copy of the email sent to Jon Ingram on Monday 19 > Jan 2009 regarding the false alarm that was invoiced Inv 45914. Todate we > have received no further communications from Jon. Please read and follow > up on this matter. > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sean Joseph > To: CMH Christine Harmsworth > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:12 PM > Subject: Fw: Coffs Harbour Campus > > > Chris, > > Unfortunately we did not reply to Ingrid as we had the file waiting for > Jon to lodge a wavier claim per our detailed email to Jon below. > > Regards, > > Sean > > Sean E Joseph > Managing Director > Romteck Grid Pty Ltd > T 02 9666 1555 > F 02 9316 9950 > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sean Joseph > To: jon.ingram@det.nsw.edu.au > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:52 PM > Subject: Coffs Harbour Campus > > > Jon, > > You asked us to investigate regarding false fire alarm charges imposed by > the NSW Fire Brigades in 2008 for fire alarms on following dates: > > 04/10;19/10;25/10; & 29/10 > 06/11;15/11; and 21/11 > > Our Network Manager has checked the monitoring records: - > > The installed ASE was operating correctly and had been doing so for years. > > On 02 October 2008 between 1206 hours and 1238 hours someone on site > carried out works to the FIP. The ASE reported four power resets and an > number of wiring tampers / resistors and fire alarms. > > Thereafter, as a result of these works, the ASE was affected by whatever > works had been done to the FIP. The FIP alarm contacts were being affected > by voltage and causing transmission of input isolates and fire alarms to > the ASE. > > When Matthew became aware of the situation he programmed an ASE for > normally 'Open' alarm contacts instead of the usual normally 'Closed' > contacts. The reason is we have found using normally open helps to > overcome FIP problems, especially voltage problems. > > Kerry of Kelso Fire installed the specially programmed ASE in place of the > existing ASE and this has worked with nil fire alarms since. > > This situation did not arise due to an ASE problem and our involvement was > basically to 'insulate' the ASE from the FIP problems. > > What we submit you should do is send us a simple fax instructing us to > lodge False Alarm Wavier applications with the NSWFB on the basis: > > a.. A problem developed with the site FIP > b.. You took action to stop the false alarms by getting Romteck Grid to > provide a new ASE and getting Kelso Fire to carry out works including the > installation of the new ASE with new alarm relays. > c.. The works have been successful and no false fire alarms since. > > Regards, > > Sean > > Sean E Joseph > Managing Director > Romteck Grid Pty Ltd > T 02 9666 1555 > F 02 9316 9950 > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 > 07:41:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1990 - Release Date: 03/08/09 17:17:00

Hello List I would love to ask my GGG grandmother Mary Hutchinson per "Mary Ann" 1791, about the deaths of her mother Ann, who had also arrived on the "Mary Ann" 1791 (both found guilty of plying a woman with gin and robbing her) and the man James Weavers whom she was living with. James Weavers and Richard Porter, to whom Ann was married, both men had land grants at Kissing Point. They had arrived on the same ship "Surprise"in 1790. Ann died on 3rd April 1805 at Kissing Point, James Weavers died one day later on 4th April 1805 also at Kissing Point. Mary & Richard Porter were later married on 8th June 1811. Gladys at Coogee

Ingird. I am forwarding you a copy of the email sent to Jon Ingram on Monday 19 Jan 2009 regarding the false alarm that was invoiced Inv 45914. Todate we have received no further communications from Jon. Please read and follow up on this matter. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Joseph To: CMH Christine Harmsworth Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Fw: Coffs Harbour Campus Chris, Unfortunately we did not reply to Ingrid as we had the file waiting for Jon to lodge a wavier claim per our detailed email to Jon below. Regards, Sean Sean E Joseph Managing Director Romteck Grid Pty Ltd T 02 9666 1555 F 02 9316 9950 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Joseph To: jon.ingram@det.nsw.edu.au Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: Coffs Harbour Campus Jon, You asked us to investigate regarding false fire alarm charges imposed by the NSW Fire Brigades in 2008 for fire alarms on following dates: 04/10;19/10;25/10; & 29/10 06/11;15/11; and 21/11 Our Network Manager has checked the monitoring records: - The installed ASE was operating correctly and had been doing so for years. On 02 October 2008 between 1206 hours and 1238 hours someone on site carried out works to the FIP. The ASE reported four power resets and an number of wiring tampers / resistors and fire alarms. Thereafter, as a result of these works, the ASE was affected by whatever works had been done to the FIP. The FIP alarm contacts were being affected by voltage and causing transmission of input isolates and fire alarms to the ASE. When Matthew became aware of the situation he programmed an ASE for normally 'Open' alarm contacts instead of the usual normally 'Closed' contacts. The reason is we have found using normally open helps to overcome FIP problems, especially voltage problems. Kerry of Kelso Fire installed the specially programmed ASE in place of the existing ASE and this has worked with nil fire alarms since. This situation did not arise due to an ASE problem and our involvement was basically to 'insulate' the ASE from the FIP problems. What we submit you should do is send us a simple fax instructing us to lodge False Alarm Wavier applications with the NSWFB on the basis: a.. A problem developed with the site FIP b.. You took action to stop the false alarms by getting Romteck Grid to provide a new ASE and getting Kelso Fire to carry out works including the installation of the new ASE with new alarm relays. c.. The works have been successful and no false fire alarms since. Regards, Sean Sean E Joseph Managing Director Romteck Grid Pty Ltd T 02 9666 1555 F 02 9316 9950 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00

The William Morgan of Concord is my ancestor. William arrived in 1790 as a member of the NSW Corps on the Neptune. He was the husband of Molly Morgan of Maitland fame. He recieved two grants at Concord as noted. He is also one of the 17 NSW Corps members who recieved the joint grant but this was surrendered.   More info available if anyone interested/connected. Clare Stapleton Madison, Wisconsin: Morris, New York: Sydney, Australia: Kew, England Researching FRAZER, MORGAN, WILSON, CLEGG, MEREDITH, PRIOR, COLLS, VAUGHN, MYERS, SOLOMON,

Thankyou Kristy. lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristy Willoughby" <kristywilloughby79@hotmail.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] George Morgan convict & William Morgan > > Hi Lorraine, > > I had a look on the NSW Department of Lands web-site > http://parishmaps.lands.nsw.gov.au/pmap.html and found a William Morgan > occupying 80 acres at Yaralla Bay, Concord. The image ID for this map is > 14094902. > > Unfortunately there is no date for the map so I don't know > how much help it will be to you, but it does look fairly early. > > Bye, > > Anne >

Hi Terry, thankyou for you information , I will follow up your leeds. Lorraine

Hi Lesley, Apologies twice, firstly because of the delay in answering . I have been unwell and not doing much family history. Second , I do appreciate your help in finding information about my ancestors. My grandfathers efforts in tracing backwards through the years was thoroughly investigated. George Morgan ,Convict was accepted due to the information he (grandfather) found back then. As your site has proven, the data available now, prompted me to ask about some of the still unanswered questions. Thankyou again for your help, its very much appreciated Lorraine, from Sth Western Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] George Morgan convict

Hi list, further updates from Yesterdays, link to site below, with hundreds more names of folks who are found on documents within Derbyshire but who came from elswehere or who moved elsewhere. Shardlow Removals mentions the Pheasant children whose father was awaiting transportation, plus many other records. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thanks Grahame On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Grahame & Rosslyn Thom <grthom@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Karen > > I suggest you have a read of the early chapters of the book The > Second Fleet by Michael Flynn.  He goes into a lot of detail as to > the forming of the Fleet.  Also you will get some idea of the sources > you could look at from his references. > > cheers > > Grahame > > On 08/03/2009, at 2:31 PM, Karen Hodges wrote: > >>  Hi List >> >> I have a second fleet convict John Rowling  aka Rawling, Rollings who >> has been associated with two ships. Most records I have collected say >> he came out on the Neptune [this is the ship I have recorded him as >> ,arriving on] some records mention the Surprize. The word >> 'transferred' has also been written eg He was initially on one, then >> transferred to the other. I believe the transfer was before sailing >> from England. >> >> I have a some questions regarding the 2nd fleet, why would someone be >> transferred between the ships before they left please? Were the >> convicts assigned to set ships based on the goal they came from,their >> sex, their crime, their sentence or was it just pot luck? >> >> Whats would be the best record[s] to consult to find out the truth if >> he was indeed placed on one ship, then transfer to the other or just >> on one ship the whole time? Would the reason why be recorded? >> >> Thank you >> >> Karen >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Anne I would be surprised if anyone has a complete and 'correct' history of all there ancestors. Many of the early records no longer exist so some of us just have to be content with what we have found so far. Even those who think that they have a full history do not know for certain the paternity of a child or children. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of anne caroline pittard Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:02 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] Time Travel - invisible me And here am I with my one the wrong side of a very big brick wall. sigh. Cheers. Annie

Hi Karen I suggest you have a read of the early chapters of the book The Second Fleet by Michael Flynn. He goes into a lot of detail as to the forming of the Fleet. Also you will get some idea of the sources you could look at from his references. cheers Grahame On 08/03/2009, at 2:31 PM, Karen Hodges wrote: > Hi List > > I have a second fleet convict John Rowling aka Rawling, Rollings who > has been associated with two ships. Most records I have collected say > he came out on the Neptune [this is the ship I have recorded him as > ,arriving on] some records mention the Surprize. The word > 'transferred' has also been written eg He was initially on one, then > transferred to the other. I believe the transfer was before sailing > from England. > > I have a some questions regarding the 2nd fleet, why would someone be > transferred between the ships before they left please? Were the > convicts assigned to set ships based on the goal they came from,their > sex, their crime, their sentence or was it just pot luck? > > Whats would be the best record[s] to consult to find out the truth if > he was indeed placed on one ship, then transfer to the other or just > on one ship the whole time? Would the reason why be recorded? > > Thank you > > Karen >

And here am I with my one the wrong side of a very big brick wall. sigh. Cheers. Annie > Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > Yes, Jan, I do have two but they were not convicts. I can life with > that and > realise that not everyone can be found. I only have three direct > convict > ancestors! although I have many hundreds who are connected through > marriage. > > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jan > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:22 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] Time Travel - invisible me > > > So Lesley, after all these years of genie work and experience you've > built > up, I don't suppose you would have a brick wall left in your own tree? > > Jan D > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

What a great idea Lesley. If only there was a Genie, as in Genieologist, who could grant the wishes we all crave. To be able to answer the questions we all have agonised over. I'm all for the concept of invisibility. To be able to observe and listen, already knowing some of the future, but needing to fill in those gaps that have been a frustration to the portrait being complete. In my invisibility cloak I would be on the dock at Sydney Cove in December 1821. I would watch the convict ship "John Bull" lower its sails after a four month journey transporting eighty mostly Irish female convicts. I would see Major Goulburn the Colonial Secretary come aboard and probably shake hands with the Master William Corlett and the Surgeon William Elyard and listen to his possible enquiries as to the wellbeing of Mrs. Elyard and her children, but my attention would be drawn to the convicts now assembled on deck for inspection by the Colonial Secretary Major Goulburn. Which one was Mary Moran? I had a description but it seemed to fit at least half the women assembled. I would listen to what was said as some of the convicts were transferred to schooners to transport them to the Factory at Parramatta. Mary Moran was mentioned... So that was what she looked like. I wonder if she knew she was pregnant? I did and I knew who the father was. It was William Moore the ship's steward. I watch closely as the women are transferred to the vessels that will take them to Parramatta. Is there any sign of affection between Mary and the Steward, a smile, a touch of hands? The reason I would like to be on the dock at Sydney on a hot summer day in 1821 is because the child Mary Moran was carrying was most probably my gg grandfather. Terry

Yes, Jan, I do have two but they were not convicts. I can life with that and realise that not everyone can be found. I only have three direct convict ancestors! although I have many hundreds who are connected through marriage. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:22 PM To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PJ] Time Travel - invisible me So Lesley, after all these years of genie work and experience you've built up, I don't suppose you would have a brick wall left in your own tree? Jan D

Elizabeth, have you ever read Father Therry history? on horse back etc in all kinds of weather it is a wonder any of his records survived. I worked voluntary at St Mary's 1968 & 1969 and we battled in those days for voluntary workers., the government rules do not allow you access these days. Our convict ancestors Thomas Collison & Margaret Hughes were also given permission in to marry in Sydney 1832 and no marriage records exist. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Convict Trail" <convicttrail@bigpond.com> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Cc: <jennygirl@unwired.com.au> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [PJ] Time Capsule Daniel CANVIN > Hi Jenny, > Re Daniel Calvin, this is not the first wedding preformed by Father > Therry, > that has not been found. My ancestor Elizabeth(Betsy)Sinnott was married > to > Richard Dwyer by Father Therry but again no evidence exists. I know this > marriage happened as it was certified as having happened on a application > to > remove Elizabeth's daughter from the Orphan Asylum. The application for > permission to marry together with two other exists but not the evidence of > the marriage. > > It would be interesting to how many of his marriages are missing from the > records that were supplied later to the Register General. Was a book lost > or > were just a few not recorded or was a page or so lost from the book or did > the book get wet in the saddle bag and some pages become illegible? > > > I would like to ask my 3x great grandfather Daniel CANVIN to please put > > down > his anvil and come and sit down quietly under a tree on the Badgery's > property at Majors Creek and tell me why: > > Although I have his permission to marry document dated 5 Aug 1826, I can't > find a marriage. I would tell him that I have been through all the records > BMD, LDS, Mutch Index, Fr Therry's Papers, I have tried to scale the wall > and get into the inner sanctum at St Mary's Cathedral however Pauline > tells > me that I can't have access to their files. I would say that I have found > reference to his marriage in a book by Kieran Sheedy and I have written to > Kieran Sheedy in Ireland asking for the source however I didn't get a > reply. > The book goes on to tell me that the marriage was performed by Fr Therry > and > that Mary Dwyer acted as one of the witnesses. Now that has had to come > from > somewhere. > > I would also like to know, if you did marry Elizabeth MASINER c 1826, why > your first child Eliza was not born until 1831. I believe that it is good > to > wait however five years is a little out of kilter for those days. Did you > perhaps loose some babies or were you employed miles away. > > I would tell him and that I am enjoying my research and after one big hug > I > would slip away clutching the horse shoe that he gave me. > > Jenny > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the information Ann, Looks like a visit to the library is in order. If you have read any of the articles - did any of the articles state that Isaac Gorrick actually was the boxer. I have looked on the NLA but the Maitland Mercury only goes to 1889 and I can't find anything in the numerous earlier ones that suggested he was the boxer. Was the Telegraph aricle 1993 or 1893? Regards, Natalie - and thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Campbell" <AMCampbell@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac Gorrick > > For those interested in Isaac Gorrick, pugilist, there was an article > published in the Sunday Telegraph 5 September 1993. There was also an > article on the life story of Isaac Gorrick published in the Newcastle > Herald > 3 February 1898, an obit for Isaac's wife published Maitland Weekly > Mercury > 22 January 1898. There were many stories concerning Isaac published in > the > Maitland Mercury over the years. > > Regards, Ann > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > aus-pt-jackson-convicts-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 10:43 AM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 > > > > The Port Jackson Convicts Mailing List > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Isaac/John Gorrick (Lesley Uebel) > 2. Re: PJ List (Maree@iseekin.com.au) > 3. Re: PJ List (sandra fox) > 4. Happy Birthday listers and thanks to Lesley for all her hard > work (Perplexed) > 5. PJ List - happy 8th Birthday (MarjeDawn@aol.com) > 6. Re: William BLAKE (MarjeDawn@aol.com) > 7. Re: William BLAKE (MarjeDawn@aol.com) > 8. Re: Isaac/John Gorrick (I Baig) > 9. Re: PJ List (Sherrie Blackman) > 10. Re: Isaac/John Gorrick (South Coast Promotions) > 11. Re: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 76 > (Lynne Kokshoorn) > 12. Re: ] PJ List (Norma McLean) > 13. Re: Isaac/John Gorrick (I Baig) > 14. Re: PJ List (Ann O'Grady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:13:36 +1100 > From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <OGEELKEHANIHLMOJNLCJOEAAABAB.ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Natalie > > > Was there no Obituary in any of the newspapers (eg Maitland Mercury) when > he died in 1899 ? > > > regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of I Baig > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:37 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > > Hello everyone, does anyone know if Isaac (used in Australian references) > or > John (used in English references) Gorrick, the heavy weight boxer aka The > Bungaree - who was the first Australian boxer to fight in England in > 1842 - > is in any way connected to Isaac Gorrick (1791 Atlantic), Thomas Lisson > (1792 Royal Admiral) and Ann Bradwell (Experiment 1804). > > As some of you may know Ann Bradwell had children with both Thomas Lisson > and Isaac Gorrick, and the Lisson children often took the name Gorrick, > including John and Isaac jr. > > It seems to me too much of a coincidence that the boxer is not connected > in > some way (- but I may be totally wrong about this.) He may be someone who > knew the family and took the name - Bungaree may also have been borrowed > from the name of the aboriginal Bungaree who accompanied Matthew Flinders > and Philip King on their explorations or from the town of that name. > > I would appreciate any information or suggestions. I have contacted a > couple > of boxing experts but without any luck so far. > > Regards, Natalie > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:21:57 +1100 > From: "Maree@iseekin.com.au" <maree@iseekin.com.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] PJ List > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EAA70280AE5146F0B0678FECD47AB264@marie0bc0b1030> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Lesley, congratulations on a wonderful and informative list. > It truly is terrific. I have found it Very educational as well... > thank you :) > regards > Maree Larsen > (ex Qlder) - Hobart > Tasmania > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lesley Uebel > To: Aus-Pt-Jackson-Convicts@Rootsweb. Com > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:56 PM > Subject: [PJ] PJ List > > > > We are now 8 years old :) > > Happy birthday PJ List I would also like to thank all those who have > contributed over the years. > > 44,335 messages over 8 years > > > Regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:42:18 +1100 > From: "sandra fox" <sandra26sandra@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] PJ List > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <CE486C14BB584D799B07AD23E0F00695@HP26230307792> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Congratulations, wish I knew about you 8 years ago. Would have saved me a > lot of misinformation. Thanks Lesley. > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:08:33 +1100 > From: "Perplexed" <awhitefo@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [PJ] Happy Birthday listers and thanks to Lesley for all her > hard work > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <FA7F9810CE50463083A18B4FD5502735@AnnePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I thoroughly enjoy reading the messages and have found a good deal of > useful > information. > > Anne > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 05:56:31 EST > From: MarjeDawn@aol.com > Subject: [PJ] PJ List - happy 8th Birthday > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bf1.4b4aec3d.36e109df@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Congratulations to you Lesley, and to all who have contributed to the list > over these 8 years. > > A wealth of knowledge has been shared and information gained by all. > > Best Wishes, > Marje > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:18:49 EST > From: MarjeDawn@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] William BLAKE > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d21.497f7e96.36e10f19@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Thank you Lesley for your prompt reply regarding William Blake per > Minerva. > > I have 2 references for William BLAKE taken from the film of the Indent of > the Minerva, both gave different details of age, origin, trial date and > sentence, so I thought they were for 2 separate convicts. > > Refs - > 1. film 625 page 371 shows Wm Blake, Co.Tipperary, August 1798, 7 years > 2. film 625 page 359 shows Wm Blake, 23, wool comber, Co.Tyrone August > 1799, > > life, plus the comment - Discharged 14 th May1799. > Would this comment refer to a Pardon? > > Do you know whether the second entry is in error and should refer to > another > > transport perhaps? > > many thanks, > Marje > >> Hi Marje, >> >> I can only find one William Blake who arrived on the Minerva in 1800. >> >> Regards >> Lesley Uebel >> mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >> CLAIM A CONVICT >> http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html >> >> >> Hello Lesley and Listers, >> >> I am researching convict William BLAKE and hope that someone will be able > to >> help me please. >> >> There are 3 convicts of that name who were early arrivals in the colony > and >> I >> am having some difficulty in eliminating the ones who do not fit into the >> family story. >> The information I have found is from the Indents,Musters,Col. Sec. >> papers, >> Irish Convicts to Australia -Peter Mayberry site and BMD. >> They are - >> >> 1.William Blake, 29, County Wexford, Ireland, a rebel, had been sentenced > to >> death, commuted to Life as a transported convict, per "Sugar Cane"17th >> September, 1792, became a self employed shoemaker and shopkeeper in > Sydney, >> granted >> a CP . >> I think this fellow acted as a juror on several inquests - Col Sec >> papers. >> He may have had a relationship in 1801 with Eleanor Allicot >> >> 2. William Blake, 23, a wool comber of County Tyrone, Ireland was > sentenced >> to 7 years transportation in August 1799, arrived per "Minerva" 11th > January >> 1800, became free by servitude and was listed as a labourer for Thomas >> Prosser >> in the 1814 Muster. ( Comment on the indent- Discharged 14 May 1799) ? >> > > 3. Wm Blake (2) per Minerva 1800, from Tipperary Ireland, tried Aug. 1798, > 7 >> >> yrs >> One of these men was granted land at Kissing Point. >> The William Blake I am researching married in 1807 to Harriott Edwards, > > Snipped > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:26:11 EST > From: MarjeDawn@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] William BLAKE > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c30.500239ea.36e110d3@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Thank you Cathy for this helpful information. > > William Blake of Wexford, per Sugar Cane would be 46 and William of > Tyrone, > > per Minerva would be 40 in 1817, so either one is still a possibility. > There are some references to his wife Harriott in the Col Sec papers so > that > might help to eliminate one of them. > > Tis back to the library tomorrow ! > > many thanks > Marje > >> William BLAKE, age 42, buried Old Sydney Burial Ground, 21 May 1817, Free >> Died 20 May 1817, no ship is recorded in the St Phillips Church Early > Church >> records >> >> Cathy Dunn >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:29:55 +1000 > From: "I Baig" <baigpath@aapt.net.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E7636D9358144FDCA0DEA4FBB32F44A0@IbbiePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Lesley, Thanks for the suggestion. There is an obituary for Isaac, > which > I haven't read yet, but will chase up at library or buy the CD - cannot > find > > anything on the NLA site. I also can't find when and where John > Lisson/Gorrick died. I think he ran hotels in Sydney in the 1830s and may > have been a butcher in the 1850s. (Sydney Gazette entries) > John married Sarah Yeomans and had 5 children. Louisa 1830; Napoleon > William 1832; William Oliver George 1835; Charles Augustus 1838 and John > Hector 1845. When the first two were born he used the name Lisson, then > Gorrick for the last three. In both the newspaper reports and the > childrens > > birth there is a gap between 1840 and 1845. > Regards, Natalie > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > >> >> Hi Natalie >> >> >> Was there no Obituary in any of the newspapers (eg Maitland Mercury) >> when > >> he >> died in 1899 ? >> >> >> regards >> Lesley Uebel >> mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >> CLAIM A CONVICT >> http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of I Baig >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:37 PM >> To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick >> >> >> Hello everyone, does anyone know if Isaac (used in Australian references) >> or >> John (used in English references) Gorrick, the heavy weight boxer aka The >> Bungaree - who was the first Australian boxer to fight in England in >> 1842 - >> is in any way connected to Isaac Gorrick (1791 Atlantic), Thomas Lisson >> (1792 Royal Admiral) and Ann Bradwell (Experiment 1804). >> >> As some of you may know Ann Bradwell had children with both Thomas Lisson >> and Isaac Gorrick, and the Lisson children often took the name Gorrick, >> including John and Isaac jr. >> >> It seems to me too much of a coincidence that the boxer is not connected >> in >> some way (- but I may be totally wrong about this.) He may be someone >> who >> knew the family and took the name - Bungaree may also have been borrowed >> from the name of the aboriginal Bungaree who accompanied Matthew Flinders >> and Philip King on their explorations or from the town of that name. >> >> I would appreciate any information or suggestions. I have contacted a >> couple >> of boxing experts but without any luck so far. >> >> Regards, Natalie >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:51:54 +1100 > From: "Sherrie Blackman" <silkweb@tpg.com.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] PJ List > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <op.uqb34sct5xjpm9@sherrie-01> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; > charset=iso-8859-15 > > Hi Lesley, > > Happy 8th Birthday & Congratulations :) > > Kind regards, > Sherrie. > > > On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:56:23 +1100, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> > wrote: > >> We are now 8 years old :) >> >> Happy birthday PJ List I would also like to thank all those who have >> contributed over the years. >> >> 44,335 messages over 8 years >> >> >> Regards >> Lesley Uebel >> mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:08:16 +1100 > From: "South Coast Promotions" <office@scpromotions.com.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002501c99dd6$8122bf30$0400000a@OFFICEPC1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > John was the son of Thomas and Ann, b 1808 Hawkesbury > John Hector Lisson GORRICK married Jane Underwood 1866 > William George Oliver Leeson GORRICK married Sarah May Cooper 23 Mar 1860 > Ulladulla, she a grandchild of Robert Cooper of Juniper Hall > > William's daughter Emma Marguerite GORRICK married Napolean Jean LISSON > her > cousin, son of John Hector Lisson GORRICK > > I don't have a death of John Lisson/Gorrick > > > Cathy Dunn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of I Baig > Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 10:30 PM > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > Hi Lesley, Thanks for the suggestion. There is an obituary for Isaac, > which > I haven't read yet, but will chase up at library or buy the CD - cannot > find > > anything on the NLA site. I also can't find when and where John > Lisson/Gorrick died. I think he ran hotels in Sydney in the 1830s and may > have been a butcher in the 1850s. (Sydney Gazette entries) > John married Sarah Yeomans and had 5 children. Louisa 1830; Napoleon > William 1832; William Oliver George 1835; Charles Augustus 1838 and John > Hector 1845. When the first two were born he used the name Lisson, then > Gorrick for the last three. In both the newspaper reports and the > childrens > > birth there is a gap between 1840 and 1845. > Regards, Natalie > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > >> >> Hi Natalie >> >> >> Was there no Obituary in any of the newspapers (eg Maitland Mercury) >> when > >> he >> died in 1899 ? >> >> >> regards >> Lesley Uebel >> mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >> CLAIM A CONVICT >> http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-pt-jackson-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of I Baig >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:37 PM >> To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick >> >> >> Hello everyone, does anyone know if Isaac (used in Australian references) >> or >> John (used in English references) Gorrick, the heavy weight boxer aka The >> Bungaree - who was the first Australian boxer to fight in England in >> 1842 - >> is in any way connected to Isaac Gorrick (1791 Atlantic), Thomas Lisson >> (1792 Royal Admiral) and Ann Bradwell (Experiment 1804). >> >> As some of you may know Ann Bradwell had children with both Thomas Lisson >> and Isaac Gorrick, and the Lisson children often took the name Gorrick, >> including John and Isaac jr. >> >> It seems to me too much of a coincidence that the boxer is not connected >> in >> some way (- but I may be totally wrong about this.) He may be someone >> who >> knew the family and took the name - Bungaree may also have been borrowed >> from the name of the aboriginal Bungaree who accompanied Matthew Flinders >> and Philip King on their explorations or from the town of that name. >> >> I would appreciate any information or suggestions. I have contacted a >> couple >> of boxing experts but without any luck so far. >> >> Regards, Natalie >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:09:17 +1300 > From: "Lynne Kokshoorn" <kokohome@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [PJ] AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 76 > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <B04B50E86D104EC29BD214AF772F7D59@userPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am replying to message no 7 26 FebruaryLyn > > > I have read your list of names and I am wondering if we have a connection. > I have a WOODBRIDGE in my family tree. > I have two sisters Hannah and Elizabeth(my grandmother) WOODBRIDGE they > married brothers Patrick Louis CALLAGHAN and Michael Abraham CALLAGHAN > the > two sisters Hannah and Elizabeth's parents were Edward Daved WOODBRIDGE > and Rose Ann (Throughgood) WOODBRIDGE. (I have no information on this > couple) I think the woodbridge family may have come from Fullerton Cove > NSW. > Michael and Patrick's parents were John CALLAGHAN and Maria MILLS. John > CALLAGHAN a descendant of Andrew CALLAGHAN (The three bees 1812) and Maria > MILLS a descendant of Abraham MILLS (MOFFAT 1836). > > cheers Lynne K nz. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:32:01 +1100 > From: "Norma McLean" <normabmc@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [PJ] ] PJ List > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <40657C0D59974D0AA9945390AFB42ECA@your1695c3d4b4> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > > Hi Lesley and PJ Listers, > > May I add my congratulations on our 8th Birthday. May the PJ List continue > to be the best Roots Web List for at least another 8 years. - I'm sure it > will, > > Regards, > > Norma McLean > normabmc@bigpond.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:56:23 +1100, Lesley Uebel >> <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> >> wrote: >> >>> We are now 8 years old :) >>> >>> Happy birthday PJ List I would also like to thank all those who have >>> contributed over the years. >>> >>> 44,335 messages over 8 years >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Lesley Uebel >>> mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >>> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:35:12 +1000 > From: "I Baig" <baigpath@aapt.net.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <A7441A15C25E4502A13C6A3EBD34DE51@IbbiePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks very much Cathy. Maybe John was in another state or country when he > died. Regards,Natalie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "South Coast Promotions" <office@scpromotions.com.au> > To: <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:08 AM > Subject: Re: [PJ] Isaac/John Gorrick > > >> >> John was the son of Thomas and Ann, b 1808 Hawkesbury >> John Hector Lisson GORRICK married Jane Underwood 1866 >> William George Oliver Leeson GORRICK married Sarah May Cooper 23 Mar 1860 >> Ulladulla, she a grandchild of Robert Cooper of Juniper Hall >> >> William's daughter Emma Marguerite GORRICK married Napolean Jean LISSON >> her >> cousin, son of John Hector Lisson GORRICK >> >> I don't have a death of John Lisson/Gorrick >> >> >> Cathy Dunn >> >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:42:17 +1100 > From: "Ann O'Grady" <annogrady@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [PJ] PJ List > To: aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <200903052342.n25NgHqA004405@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Congratulations, Lesley > Happy Birthday PJ List > Ann (in Sydney) > > > >> Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >> >> >> We are now 8 years old :) >> >> Happy birthday PJ List I would also like to thank all those who have >> contributed over the years. >> >> 44,335 messages over 8 years >> >> >> Regards >> Lesley Uebel >> mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Ann O'Grady > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email > to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS mailing list, send an > email > to AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 > ****************************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all As I said the other day, my trip - well my first trip anyway, I would prefer to be invisible. That way I could just observe them. I could listen to their everyday conversation, how they treated each other and their children, watch meal preparation and how they shopped, what they ate, watch them at work and how they interacted with others around them, -- guess I could poke around their house (or shack) a bit :)). A second trip I would talk to them.... but I wonder if I could understand them with their Irish brogue. I would then have to find a dressmaker to make some suitable clothing to wear as I don't think jeans would be appropriate. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html