Hi again There was also Joseph Brown born about 1818 to Frances. Joseph was living with Frances and her husband in 1828 V18184487 1B/1818 BROWN JOSEPH - FRANCES V18181099 148/1818 BROWN JOSEPH UNKNOWN FRANCIS I will send something to you by private email in a moment - it is an attachment so I cannot send it via Rootsweb Regards Lesley http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4

Oboy, I never thought of that. Thanks again, Lesley. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] Frances BROWN and Thomas SHAW Thomas is there Sylvia He is listed under Brown V18201230 148/1820 BROWN THOMAS S UNKNOWN FRANCES Regards Lesley http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 4:46 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > Thanks Lesley. > I've just been on the births deaths and marriages site and noted down all > their children. There seemed to be twice as many as they had because some > had two registration numbers. > They also had a son Thomas, born 13th June 1820, but I can't find him on the > site. That's a nuisance because he is our ancestor. Perhaps they were so > excited about getting married that they forgot to register him. > Syl > ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thomas is there Sylvia He is listed under Brown V18201230 148/1820 BROWN THOMAS S UNKNOWN FRANCES Regards Lesley http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 4:46 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > Thanks Lesley. > I've just been on the births deaths and marriages site and noted down all > their children. There seemed to be twice as many as they had because some > had two registration numbers. > They also had a son Thomas, born 13th June 1820, but I can't find him on the > site. That's a nuisance because he is our ancestor. Perhaps they were so > excited about getting married that they forgot to register him. > Syl >

Thanks Lesley. I've just been on the births deaths and marriages site and noted down all their children. There seemed to be twice as many as they had because some had two registration numbers. They also had a son Thomas, born 13th June 1820, but I can't find him on the site. That's a nuisance because he is our ancestor. Perhaps they were so excited about getting married that they forgot to register him. Syl -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] Frances BROWN and Thomas SHAW Hi Sylvia, I think that Ancestry has one - but I use both the CD and book versions. Scratch that last post of mine about Mary. Three women from the Lord Melville married men named Thomas Shaw ! Susan Brown married Thomas Shaw who arrived on the Isabella in 1818. Susan and Thomas had a child named Mary in about 1822 and Frances and Thomas had a child they named James in 1828 .... and both couples had children they named Elizabeth and John Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 2:48 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > Hi again, Lesley. > Now that is confusing! > I had no idea that there was an 1828 census. Is it on line? > Sylvia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley > Uebel > Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011 2:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PJ] Frances BROWN and Thomas SHAW > > Hi Sylvia > > I typed in error, Francis instead of Frances.... sorry about that. > > What is confusing is that Susan (Susanna) Brown per Lord Melville also > married a Thomas Shaw - although this Thomas arrived on the > Indefatigable in 1815. In the 1828 NSW Census Susan gives her name as Mary. > > I cannot find that other child you mentioned in the 1828 NSW Census, > although there was a death of a James Brown (Infant) in 1826 I not sure > if it is him > > > Regards ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sylvia, I think that Ancestry has one - but I use both the CD and book versions. Scratch that last post of mine about Mary. Three women from the Lord Melville married men named Thomas Shaw ! Susan Brown married Thomas Shaw who arrived on the Isabella in 1818. Susan and Thomas had a child named Mary in about 1822 and Frances and Thomas had a child they named James in 1828 .... and both couples had children they named Elizabeth and John Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 2:48 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > Hi again, Lesley. > Now that is confusing! > I had no idea that there was an 1828 census. Is it on line? > Sylvia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley > Uebel > Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011 2:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PJ] Frances BROWN and Thomas SHAW > > Hi Sylvia > > I typed in error, Francis instead of Frances.... sorry about that. > > What is confusing is that Susan (Susanna) Brown per Lord Melville also > married a Thomas Shaw - although this Thomas arrived on the > Indefatigable in 1815. In the 1828 NSW Census Susan gives her name as Mary. > > I cannot find that other child you mentioned in the 1828 NSW Census, > although there was a death of a James Brown (Infant) in 1826 I not sure > if it is him > > > Regards

Hi again, Lesley. Now that is confusing! I had no idea that there was an 1828 census. Is it on line? Sylvia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011 2:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] Frances BROWN and Thomas SHAW Hi Sylvia I typed in error, Francis instead of Frances.... sorry about that. What is confusing is that Susan (Susanna) Brown per Lord Melville also married a Thomas Shaw - although this Thomas arrived on the Indefatigable in 1815. In the 1828 NSW Census Susan gives her name as Mary. I cannot find that other child you mentioned in the 1828 NSW Census, although there was a death of a James Brown (Infant) in 1826 I not sure if it is him Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 2:04 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > while to get the > significance of your message. Thank you ve ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sylvia I typed in error, Francis instead of Frances.... sorry about that. What is confusing is that Susan (Susanna) Brown per Lord Melville also married a Thomas Shaw - although this Thomas arrived on the Indefatigable in 1815. In the 1828 NSW Census Susan gives her name as Mary. I cannot find that other child you mentioned in the 1828 NSW Census, although there was a death of a James Brown (Infant) in 1826 I not sure if it is him Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 2:04 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > while to get the > significance of your message. Thank you ve

Hi Lesley, Thanks for answering so promptly. Gets a little confusing, doesn't it. Took me a while to get the significance of your message. Thank you very much for that. I now know that the Mary on the Lord Melville was her daughter. Thanks again, Sylvia. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] Frances BROWN and Thomas SHAW Hi Syklvia According to the 1828 NSW Census Mary Browne arrived free on the Lord Melville and was living with Thomas Shaw and his wife Francis. In 1828 her age was 15 yo Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 12:04 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm back on the list after quite a long absence, and this time researching > ancestors Frances BROWN, who arrived in Sydney aboard the "Lord Melville" in > 1817, sentenced to 7 years; and the man she married in 1820 -Thomas SHAW, > who arrived in Sydney aboard the "General Hewett" in 1814, sentenced to > life. > > Frances BROWN was sentenced to 7 years on April 25, 1815, and the departure > date for the "Lord Melville" was August 1816. > > She brought a child with her. On the embarkation documents, Lord Melville, > there are two female convicts by the name of Brown....Frances, and Susan > Brown....and there are two children listed with the surname of Brown..James > Brown and Mary Brown, so I can't tell which of the two children belongs to > our Frances Brown. > > Our line of descent comes from Thomas and Frances's son Thomas SHAW born > June 1820 in Parramatta, and Susannah HUGHES born 1822 in Sydney. > > Is there any other member of the list with any connection to Frances BROWN > or Thomas SHAW. We would welcome any further information on them and their > other descendants. We don't even know what they were sentenced for. > > > > Hoping for help, > > Sylvia > ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Syklvia According to the 1828 NSW Census Mary Browne arrived free on the Lord Melville and was living with Thomas Shaw and his wife Francis. In 1828 her age was 15 yo Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 12:04 PM, Norman Mitchell wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm back on the list after quite a long absence, and this time researching > ancestors Frances BROWN, who arrived in Sydney aboard the "Lord Melville" in > 1817, sentenced to 7 years; and the man she married in 1820 -Thomas SHAW, > who arrived in Sydney aboard the "General Hewett" in 1814, sentenced to > life. > > Frances BROWN was sentenced to 7 years on April 25, 1815, and the departure > date for the "Lord Melville" was August 1816. > > She brought a child with her. On the embarkation documents, Lord Melville, > there are two female convicts by the name of Brown....Frances, and Susan > Brown....and there are two children listed with the surname of Brown..James > Brown and Mary Brown, so I can't tell which of the two children belongs to > our Frances Brown. > > Our line of descent comes from Thomas and Frances's son Thomas SHAW born > June 1820 in Parramatta, and Susannah HUGHES born 1822 in Sydney. > > Is there any other member of the list with any connection to Frances BROWN > or Thomas SHAW. We would welcome any further information on them and their > other descendants. We don't even know what they were sentenced for. > > > > Hoping for help, > > Sylvia >

Hi everyone, I'm back on the list after quite a long absence, and this time researching ancestors Frances BROWN, who arrived in Sydney aboard the "Lord Melville" in 1817, sentenced to 7 years; and the man she married in 1820 -Thomas SHAW, who arrived in Sydney aboard the "General Hewett" in 1814, sentenced to life. Frances BROWN was sentenced to 7 years on April 25, 1815, and the departure date for the "Lord Melville" was August 1816. She brought a child with her. On the embarkation documents, Lord Melville, there are two female convicts by the name of Brown....Frances, and Susan Brown....and there are two children listed with the surname of Brown..James Brown and Mary Brown, so I can't tell which of the two children belongs to our Frances Brown. Our line of descent comes from Thomas and Frances's son Thomas SHAW born June 1820 in Parramatta, and Susannah HUGHES born 1822 in Sydney. Is there any other member of the list with any connection to Frances BROWN or Thomas SHAW. We would welcome any further information on them and their other descendants. We don't even know what they were sentenced for. Hoping for help, Sylvia

Hi I was advising that on the marriage refusals Julia Walsh is recorded as arriving on the William Sharples in 1842. I believe that the two applications, two weeks apart, are for the same couple. I realise the ages are different on each application i.e. William was recorded as 32 on one and Julia as 22 - and on the other William was recorded as 37 and Julia as 27 What I believe happened here is that whoever recorded the first application mistook the number 7 as a 2. Easily done. I know that Julia was recorded as being 37 according to the newspapers, in 1850, but we are only talking about a difference of 2 years. She may have been nearly 37 when she died, or nearly 28 when William applied to marry her. There is not enough difference to worry about. You stated "> I also presume that Jerroms' association with the drowned Julia began > circa 1846 because their eldest (?) child was 3 when he drowned with > his mother" Have you thought that they may have had another child or two who did not make it to term and not recorded? This may have had added to her depression. I don't know what happened to William as it appears he did not receive a Conditional Pardon. Do you know when his wife Martha or Margaret died? and where she is buried? Regards Lesley Uebeol http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 3/06/2011 1:18 PM, Kilpike wrote: > Lesley, > > Yes, there were a number of Julia W's who arrived in the period in > question, some of which may have been William Jerroms' partner and/or > the two he attempted to marry in 1842. > > Julia Walsh, 23 yrs, per "Corimandel" to Sydney, 1840 > Julia Walsh, 20 yrs, per "Metcalfe" to Port Phillip, 1841 > Judith Walsh, 26 yrs, free per "William Sharples", to Sydney, 1842 > Julia Walch, 18 , free per "Woodbridge", to Sydney, 1842 > Julia Walsh, 19 yrs, free per "Woodbridge", to Sydney, 1842 > Julia Walsh, convict per "John Calvin" to Hobart, 1848 > Julia Walsh, 16 yrs, free per "Panama" to Sydney, 1850 > > The Julia Walsh/Jeromes/Jarome who suicided in Sydney Harbour was > reported to have been 37 years of age in 1850. None of those listed > above would have been 37 in 1850, assuming the ages given were in any > way accurate. > I also presume that Jerroms' association with the drowned Julia began > circa 1846 because their eldest (?) child was 3 when he drowned with > his mother. So the mother who drowned in 1850 may not be either of the > two women that Jerroms attempted to marry in 1842. Anyway, Julia came > to a sad end, I want to discover what happened to Jerroms himself. > > Kilpike

Lesley, Yes, there were a number of Julia W's who arrived in the period in question, some of which may have been William Jerroms' partner and/or the two he attempted to marry in 1842. Julia Walsh, 23 yrs, per "Corimandel" to Sydney, 1840 Julia Walsh, 20 yrs, per "Metcalfe" to Port Phillip, 1841 Judith Walsh, 26 yrs, free per "William Sharples", to Sydney, 1842 Julia Walch, 18 , free per "Woodbridge", to Sydney, 1842 Julia Walsh, 19 yrs, free per "Woodbridge", to Sydney, 1842 Julia Walsh, convict per "John Calvin" to Hobart, 1848 Julia Walsh, 16 yrs, free per "Panama" to Sydney, 1850 The Julia Walsh/Jeromes/Jarome who suicided in Sydney Harbour was reported to have been 37 years of age in 1850. None of those listed above would have been 37 in 1850, assuming the ages given were in any way accurate. I also presume that Jerroms' association with the drowned Julia began circa 1846 because their eldest (?) child was 3 when he drowned with his mother. So the mother who drowned in 1850 may not be either of the two women that Jerroms attempted to marry in 1842. Anyway, Julia came to a sad end, I want to discover what happened to Jerroms himself. Kilpike From: Lesley Uebel <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PJ] William Jerroms per "Asia" 1831 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:02:22 +1000 References: <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Hi I am not sure if you know that Julia Walsh/Walch arrived free on the "William Sharples" in January 1842 . This ship left from Liverpool on 24 October 1841 with 368 immigrants Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 31/05/2011 1:33 PM, Kilpike wrote: > I am interested in the fate of William Jerroms/Jerrom/Jerome (plus > other variations in spelling) who was convicted of “house breaking” in > 1831 and later the same year transported per “Asia” to Sydney. Ten > years after arriving in 1832 William Jerroms applied to marry firstly > Julia Walch 16/8/1842& secondly Julia Walsh 30/8/1842 and was > rejected on both occasions because he was already “married with a > child”. Then after 5 years, circa 1847, William Jerroms became the > father of a son William to Julia Walsh, her maiden name suggesting the > couple were not married. Then on 8/6/1850 Julia Walsh gave birth to > John who died a week later. Possibly suffering depression from the > death of her son John, Julia Walsh jumped into Sydney Harbour holdfing > 3 year old William on 5/8/1850. The husband& father William Jerroms > was described as a “waterman” at the inquest and the burials were > conducted by a Roman Catholic priest. Within a few months William > Jerom married Martha Webbey on 4/11/1850 and the couple had a son > Henry on 23/11/1851 who was baptised at St Andrews Presbyterian on > 25/11/1851, the father being a “waterman” of Bathurst St. After that > birth I have been unable to trace anything about the later life of > William Jerroms, such as his death. > > A summary of events concerning William Jerroms (I have assumed the > William Jerroms listed below are the one& same person): > > Birth: William Jerroms 1805 (calculated from conviction record) > Conviction: William Jerroms, 26 yrs, 29 March 1831 house breaking, > Warwick Lent Assize > Hulk: William Jerroms 10 May 1831 “Captivity” at Portsmouth > Transported: William Jerroms 29 September 1831 per “Asia” > Arrived: William Jerroms 13 February 1832 per “Asia” at Sydney > Assigned: William Jerroms from Feb/March 1832 to Robert McIntosh > Ticket of Leave: William Jerroms 23 December 1841 at Pittwater per “Asia” > Application to Marry: William Jerroms, 32 yrs, 16 August 1842 to Julia > A. Walch [sic], 22 yrs, rejected, he was already married with a child > Application to Marry: William Jerroms, 37 yrs, 30 August 1842 to Julia > Walsh, 27 yrs, rejected, he was already married with a child > Birth: John Jerome 8 June 1850 son of William Jerome& Julia Walsh, > Bathurst St Sydney > Baptism: John Jerome 13 June 1850 son of William Jerome& Julia Walsh, > Bathurst St Sydney, St James Roman Catholic > Burial: John Jerome 17 June 1850 > Drowned: William Jeromes 3 yrs 5 August 1850, > Drowned: Julia Jeromes 37 yrs 5 August 1850 > Inquest: into deaths of Julia& William Jerome 7 August 1850, William > Jeromes husband& father described as “waterman”. > Burials: Julia& William Jerome 7 August 1850, abode Bathurst St > Sydney, Roman Catholic > Marriage: William Jerom& Martha Webbey 4 November 1850 St Andrews Sydney > Electoral Roll: William Jerroms 1851 Bathurst St Sydney > Birth: Henry Jerome 23 November 1851 son of William& Margaret Jerome > Baptism: Henry Jerome 25 November 1851 son of William, waterman,& > Margaret Jerome, abode Bathurst St Sydney, St Andrews Sydney > > > Several women named Julia Walsh, both free& convict, arrived in > Sydney during this period. Both Roman Catholic& Presbyterian faiths > were involved in baptisms associated with William Jerroms so that may > have been due to the allegiances of the mothers of his children. A > "waterman" at this time on Sydney Harbour provided a "taxi" service > between shore and vessels at anchor. I have not found the wife and > child that prevented William Jerroms marrying twice in 1842. > > I welcome comments& suggestions about William Jerroms. > >

Hi Kath Yes I have enquired at Port and I am waiting on an answer. I have the church records etc but I am trying to find where he was assigned, who he worked for at Port. regards Derek > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 11:45:59 +1000 > From: "Kath Connors" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PJ] Convict John Lawrence > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Derek, > > > Have you tried our Family History here at Port. > Our Church Of England may have records > Kath > > > I will ask our members for you and see what they hold > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Derek > BURR > Sent: Monday, 30 May 2011 8:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PJ] Convict John Lawrence > > Hi > I also are having trouble finding what happened to my convict JOHN > LAWRENCE > from his arrival on 8/1/1939 on the Barossa and his settlement at > Moparrabah > > (Kempsey District) > > It was stated in his wife ROSANNA CARTWRIGHT's Obituary that he worked as > a > > Stock Keeper at Lake Innes Port Macquarie but I have been unable to find > out > > from the Port Macquarie's Historical society of any existing record. > > We know he Married in Port Macquarie in 1850, Ticket of Leave 9/8/1946, > Cancelled 6/11/1850, reissured 16/4/1851. > > So what did he do between1839 and 1851 when he turned up in Kempsey. > > This is still my mystery. > > Derek > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hullo Elizabeth.- Thank you very much for the information it is appreciated. Regards John

Another useful description is 'Picture of Sydney and a strangers Guide in NSW for 1839' James Maclehose complete with map of Sydney in 1837 and etchings of the main buildings and general views , first published in 1839, repubished in 1977 by John Ferguson P/L St Ives. ISBN 0 909134 08 1 >From a quick look at the pictures it does not appear the roads were paved some were certainly formed as it talks of them been levelled and the hill at Brickfieds hill and been cut down and built up, cut and filled. Some building have sandstone paving in front of them but most do not. If paved it would have been like the Great North Road and great western road, tightly packed stones with soil between. Regards Elizabeth _____

>From a Bathurst newspaper - 1859 - I have a report of 'ex-convict' George Woodgate being prosecuted for 'illtreating horses'. He received 3 months Gaol. This was possibly a private prosecution as was made by a 'McGurren' rather than the Crown? Any suggestions on whether there are surviving Court records/prison records for this period. Thanks Ken Woodgate New Zealand

Hi John I would guess that any instances of Sidney were errors. Sydney and Sydney Cove were named after Lord Sydney the Secretary of State for Home Affairs, in 1788. Governor Phillip, in his early records, always spelt it as Sydney Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 2/06/2011 10:04 AM, John Read wrote: > > Another question if I may. When was the spelling for Sydney settled? > being an ex Sydneysider I always thought Sydney was Sydney. In recent > research I have come across several instances where it was spelt Sidney, > even on official type documents. (Can't think of any off hand to gove > you an example). > > Regards, John and Lyn Read Kurwongbah > >

What a list - it seems to get better and better. Firstly to Maureen, Graham and Russel Thanks for the suggestions - I shall certainly check them out. To Lesley Thank you for your note and the reference to Trove. I should have thought of Trove as I have used it to trace many family members and their activities. Another question if I may. When was the spelling for Sydney settled? being an ex Sydneysider I always thought Sydney was Sydney. In recent research I have come across several instances where it was spelt Sidney, even on official type documents. (Can't think of any off hand to gove you an example). Regards, John and Lyn Read Kurwongbah

Just a little later, but you might find this eBook interesting. "Sydney in 1848" - Illustrated By Copper-plate Engravings of its PRINCIPAL STREETS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, CHURCHES, CHAPELS, ETC. >From Drawings by Joseph Fowles. Title: Sydney in 1848 Author: Joseph Fowles * A Project Gutenberg of Australia eBook * http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0600151h.html' enjoy, Maureen in Sydney -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Read Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2011 12:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PJ] Description of Sydney Hi! After an absence of several years we am back researching my convict - William Jarvis. We seem to have most of the trail complete now from his birth through his activities before, during and after being a convict and on to his death in Victoria but we am looking for some details of what Sydney/Port Jackson would have been like when he arrived in 1838. The things we am looking for are - were the streets paved? Were there ferries/boats plying along the harbour? Where the streets lit at night? Etc. Can anyone point in the direction where we can find this sort of information? It maybe a bit of topic but similar info for Wollongong and the Illawarra generally. Regards, John and Lyn Read Kurwongbah ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

... and I have a book 'Sydney in 1848' by Joseph Fowles - may be useful. Russell Grahame Thom wrote: >Hi John and Lyn > >Would you believe that as part of the 1988 celebrations a series of books were published under the name Australians: A historical library. In deciding what to cover in this series, a decision was made to compile books showing what it was like to live in Australia every 50 years, so one of the years is 1838. It is simply titled Australians 1838. Hope you find it useful. > >cheers > >Grahame > > >