Rhonda Another suggestion is that you may wish to check the database at the Hyde Park Barracks - I don't believe that this is available on line. He was probably sent their initially after arriving - he may have stayed there and worked for the government or sent elsewhere to work for the government. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 8/06/2011 9:32 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Hello Listers > James bright arr 1835 Marquiis of Huntley 4, I have checked both printed and bound indents to try and find out where he was assigned till I found him on Goat Island 1837 Muster, is there any other places I could try and search for the missing time period please. > Cheers Rhonda >

My friend tells me she has ancestors who came on one of the first three fleets but they weren't convicts. Please can someone advise if there is a website that will give names of those other than convicts?. Their surname was JOLLY. Cheers and thanks Janine.

Hoping someone can help with a couple of queries.This is my first posting on this website. Re : Convict William Underwood who arrived on the "Westmoreland" in 1835. William was aged 31 and sentenced to 14 years for counterfeiting. He was from Bristol and sentenced in the Bristol Quarter Sessions. He was the brother to my Great Great Grandmother Louisa Underwood who was sent on the Emma Eugenia (3) to VDL arriving in 1844. She was sentenced to 7 years , also for counterfeiting. Two of her children came out with her.Does anyone out there have connections to William Underwood? On Monday my Husband and I attended Descendants Day which was held on our Foundation Day at the Fremantle Prison. It is for those of us who have Convict ,Enrolled Pensioner Guard and Warder ancestery.I have 3 convict ancestors sent to VDL and WA and my husband has 5 WA convicts only.( I am still trying to track my GG Grandmother in Braidwood , NSW and I am wondering if she was a convict also, Mary Farrell.was born 1825 Kildare,Ireland and died 1908 in Braidwood) .We also saw the"Women Transported"- Life in the Australia's Convict Female Factories. A fantastic exhibition ,spent ages reading and viewing it all. Well supported with many, many people going through. Having both male and female convicts I find this history so very interesting. As an aside I have been wondering for some time if anyone tell me if convict women were ever held at the Hyde Park Barracks prior to being sent as secondary offenders to Peel Stations at Moreton Bay or Eagle Farm? I couldn't find any reference to it at the exhibition unless of course I missed it ! The Murrays

Hello Listers James bright arr 1835 Marquiis of Huntley 4, I have checked both printed and bound indents to try and find out where he was assigned till I found him on Goat Island 1837 Muster, is there any other places I could try and search for the missing time period please. Cheers Rhonda

Good morning Lyn, Thanks very much for your info and advice. I will do a follow-up for Maryann. Prior to his conviction Isaac was a wood turner and cabinet maker and I am trying to find out what type sword he was engaged in when he was assigned to Jas BARRATT Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 106 The Port Jackson Convicts Mailing List. Please don't hit Reply to respond to a digest message, but cut & paste the specific message into a new email and change the subject heading Today's Topics: 1. COATES Isaac (Jim) 2. Re: Solomon Jackson (nadine) 3. Re: Mitchell Library collection - limited access (D and R Hardie) 4. Re: COATES Isaac (Stan Elgood) 5. Eureka (Sandra Sangster) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:24:02 +1000 From: "Jim" <[email protected]> Subject: [PJ] COATES Isaac To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Lesley, This is a new one for the list .... Isaac COATES born 1813 Birmingham convicted stealing 1833 Warwickshire and sentenced to 7 years and transported aboard the Mary to Sydney 1833. He also had a sister who was convicted of stealing and transported to Tasmania. however I do not have a lot of detail on this. I believe Isaac was assigned to a Jas H BARRATT I believe of Sydney. I am trying to find information regarding the assignment including the location and type of work involved. Can anyone help please. Jim Scarborough Qld ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:33:28 +0100 From: "nadine" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PJ] Solomon Jackson To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original For Lynne & Trev Please could you tell me where to access the records for NSW Coroner's Inquests as I am still trying to find my Hugh Crabtree died at Windsor/Pitt Town/Colo about 1834 - no records that give any clue as to his whereabouts when he died. Last heard of having his land sold at Colo and thereafter the poor man disappears into the void. Thanks to anyone who may help Nadine Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne & Trev" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:38 AM Subject: [PJ] Solomon Jackson > Hi All > > I have been trying for a number of years to find the death of Solomon > Jackson (per Lady Nugent 1835) in the Armidale/Uralla area. > > Last week I had an eureka moment - I found his death in the NSW Coronoer's > Inquests for 1796 - 1942 (it was 9 May 1851, coroner's hearing was 10 May > 1851), unfortunately still don't have a burial site. Now all I have to do > is discover his parents/siblings back in the UK. > > Lynne Brown > Central Coast > NSW > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:48:15 +1000 From: D and R Hardie <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PJ] Mitchell Library collection - limited access To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thanks Michelle for this information Robyn Hardie On 05/06/2011, at 10:46 PM, Michelle Nichols wrote: > > Just passing on the following message from the State Library of NSW. > > Please note if intending to visit the State Library of NSW for > research over the next few months, that the Mitchell Library > collection will have limited access from Monday 6 June to late > July. This is due to the upgrading of fire sprinkler systems in the > Mitchell stack storage areas, and some Mitchell Library items will > not be available for use at different times over the next two months. > > Before visiting or requesting an item please check http:// > www.sl.nsw.gov.au/using/contact/index.html > > State Library of New South Wales > Macquarie Street > Sydney NSW 2000 > Telephone (02) 9273 1414 > FAX (02) 9273 1255 > Email [email protected] > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:06:39 +1000 From: "Stan Elgood" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PJ] COATES Isaac To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Jim, I 'googled' Warwick Quarter Sessions and found him listed in the Calendars of Prisoners. Once into their website I typed in his name which gave a little info :- Isaac Coates age 18, Crime - Theft : Location Ashton. Crime Date 1831. Sentence 1mHLW (One month hard labour and whipping). Q.S. 26/2/221 : Year 1832 : Term Epiphany : Case No.94 : Court - Quarter Sessions. It still doesn't state his occupation. Perhaps you could try the same search with his sister. Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: [PJ] COATES Isaac > Lesley, > This is a new one for the list .... > > Isaac COATES born 1813 Birmingham convicted stealing 1833 Warwickshire > and sentenced to 7 years and transported aboard the Mary to Sydney 1833. > He also had a sister who was convicted of stealing and transported to > Tasmania. however I do not have a lot of detail on this. > > I believe Isaac was assigned to a Jas H BARRATT I believe of Sydney. I am > trying to find information regarding the assignment including the location > and type of work involved. Can anyone help please. > > Jim > Scarborough > Qld > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:23:16 +1000 From: Sandra Sangster <[email protected]> Subject: [PJ] Eureka To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Lynne - don't you just love those eureka moments. I had one last week with a non-convict family member. Sandra S > From: [email protected] > > Hi All > > I have been trying for a number of years to find the death of Solomon > Jackson (per Lady Nugent 1835) in the Armidale/Uralla area. > > Last week I had an eureka moment - I found his death in the NSW Coronoer's > Inquests for 1796 - 1942 (it was 9 May 1851, coroner's hearing was 10 May > 1851), unfortunately still don't have a burial site. Now all I have to do > is discover his parents/siblings back in the UK. > > Lynne Brown > Central Coast > NSW > ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Hi Lynne - don't you just love those eureka moments. I had one last week with a non-convict family member. Sandra S > From: [email protected] > > Hi All > > I have been trying for a number of years to find the death of Solomon Jackson (per Lady Nugent 1835) in the Armidale/Uralla area. > > Last week I had an eureka moment - I found his death in the NSW Coronoer's Inquests for 1796 - 1942 (it was 9 May 1851, coroner's hearing was 10 May 1851), unfortunately still don't have a burial site. Now all I have to do is discover his parents/siblings back in the UK. > > Lynne Brown > Central Coast > NSW >

Hi Jim, I 'googled' Warwick Quarter Sessions and found him listed in the Calendars of Prisoners. Once into their website I typed in his name which gave a little info :- Isaac Coates age 18, Crime - Theft : Location Ashton. Crime Date 1831. Sentence 1mHLW (One month hard labour and whipping). Q.S. 26/2/221 : Year 1832 : Term Epiphany : Case No.94 : Court - Quarter Sessions. It still doesn't state his occupation. Perhaps you could try the same search with his sister. Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: [PJ] COATES Isaac > Lesley, > This is a new one for the list .... > > Isaac COATES born 1813 Birmingham convicted stealing 1833 Warwickshire > and sentenced to 7 years and transported aboard the Mary to Sydney 1833. > He also had a sister who was convicted of stealing and transported to > Tasmania. however I do not have a lot of detail on this. > > I believe Isaac was assigned to a Jas H BARRATT I believe of Sydney. I am > trying to find information regarding the assignment including the location > and type of work involved. Can anyone help please. > > Jim > Scarborough > Qld > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Michelle for this information Robyn Hardie On 05/06/2011, at 10:46 PM, Michelle Nichols wrote: > > Just passing on the following message from the State Library of NSW. > > Please note if intending to visit the State Library of NSW for > research over the next few months, that the Mitchell Library > collection will have limited access from Monday 6 June to late > July. This is due to the upgrading of fire sprinkler systems in the > Mitchell stack storage areas, and some Mitchell Library items will > not be available for use at different times over the next two months. > > Before visiting or requesting an item please check http:// > www.sl.nsw.gov.au/using/contact/index.html > > State Library of New South Wales > Macquarie Street > Sydney NSW 2000 > Telephone (02) 9273 1414 > FAX (02) 9273 1255 > Email [email protected] > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-PT- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lesley, This is a new one for the list .... Isaac COATES born 1813 Birmingham convicted stealing 1833 Warwickshire and sentenced to 7 years and transported aboard the Mary to Sydney 1833. He also had a sister who was convicted of stealing and transported to Tasmania. however I do not have a lot of detail on this. I believe Isaac was assigned to a Jas H BARRATT I believe of Sydney. I am trying to find information regarding the assignment including the location and type of work involved. Can anyone help please. Jim Scarborough Qld

Hi All I have been trying for a number of years to find the death of Solomon Jackson (per Lady Nugent 1835) in the Armidale/Uralla area. Last week I had an eureka moment - I found his death in the NSW Coronoer's Inquests for 1796 - 1942 (it was 9 May 1851, coroner's hearing was 10 May 1851), unfortunately still don't have a burial site. Now all I have to do is discover his parents/siblings back in the UK. Lynne Brown Central Coast NSW

For Lynne & Trev Please could you tell me where to access the records for NSW Coroner's Inquests as I am still trying to find my Hugh Crabtree died at Windsor/Pitt Town/Colo about 1834 - no records that give any clue as to his whereabouts when he died. Last heard of having his land sold at Colo and thereafter the poor man disappears into the void. Thanks to anyone who may help Nadine Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne & Trev" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:38 AM Subject: [PJ] Solomon Jackson > Hi All > > I have been trying for a number of years to find the death of Solomon > Jackson (per Lady Nugent 1835) in the Armidale/Uralla area. > > Last week I had an eureka moment - I found his death in the NSW Coronoer's > Inquests for 1796 - 1942 (it was 9 May 1851, coroner's hearing was 10 May > 1851), unfortunately still don't have a burial site. Now all I have to do > is discover his parents/siblings back in the UK. > > Lynne Brown > Central Coast > NSW > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just passing on the following message from the State Library of NSW. Please note if intending to visit the State Library of NSW for research over the next few months, that the Mitchell Library collection will have limited access from Monday 6 June to late July. This is due to the upgrading of fire sprinkler systems in the Mitchell stack storage areas, and some Mitchell Library items will not be available for use at different times over the next two months. Before visiting or requesting an item please check http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/using/contact/index.html State Library of New South Wales Macquarie Street Sydney NSW 2000 Telephone (02) 9273 1414 FAX (02) 9273 1255 Email [email protected]

I am currently researching information about Michael Coughlan, arrived Florentia 1 Jan assigned William Bucknell. Have transcripts of trials from Old Bailey, ToL, CP, permission to marry, transcripts of court case in Sydney after absconding from Wollombi Bridge party and a few snippets about him in Singleton during the 1840's. I am trying to tie some loose ends together such as when did he leave Bucknell's service, when assigned to bridge party and what happened after that before his marriage to Ann Kershaw in 1839. Also researching Thomas Kershaw Coughlan, his son. I have considerable information on him but always willing to share some more. Thanks Rob Coughlan

Hi All, Did anyone on the list have a convict on this ship? The owner & commander of the ship General Stewart 1818, Captain Robert Grainger was accused of many things by Captain Barnard of the 84th Regt. guarding the convicts. Some of which were watering the rum, short-weighting the convicts sugar, replacing King's bread with ship's bread & abusing soldiers of the guard. I have transcribed the "Proceedings of the Bench of Magistrates", Captain Grainger's defence & the verdict of the proceedings from the fiche at State Records. If anyone would like a copy please contact me as I am only too happy to send one. It is quite lengthy so please contact me off-list. Regards Gladys

Many thanks Lesley it was the printed indents, as you suggested I will now look at the Bound indents. Cheers Rhonda

Many thanks Lesley it was the printed indents as you suggested I will now look at the Bound indents. Cheers Rhonda

Hi Lesley, Thanks for that info. Nice finding more family. Gives me someone else to investigate. Sylx -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011 6:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] Frances BROWN and Thomas SHAW Hi again There was also Joseph Brown born about 1818 to Frances. Joseph was living with Frances and her husband in 1828 V18184487 1B/1818 BROWN JOSEPH - FRANCES V18181099 148/1818 BROWN JOSEPH UNKNOWN FRANCIS I will send something to you by private email in a moment - it is an attachment so I cannot send it via Rootsweb Regards Lesley http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4 ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, I was reading the UK publication "Family Tree Magazine" November 2010 today and found the following which I thought might be of interest to someone: (a) page 8. At www.ancestry.co.uk - Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books 1802-1849. The records give details of each inmate's name; year of birth; age; year and place of conviction; offence committed and the name of the prison hulk. Originals are held by the National Archives in Kew. (b) National Archives has catalogued more than 1000 medical officers diaries (Adm 101 series). Diaries, journals of surgeons & assistants who served on HM ships, hospitals, shore parties and on emigrant and convict ships between 1793-1880. www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/surgeonsatsea. (c) For anyone with Somerset convict ancestors, a new Heritage Centre has opened in Taunton. The article suggests that a lot of their holdings; artifacts etc have come from the 14 or so local units in the County. New address = Brunel Way, Norton Fitzwarren, Taunton. Some resources apparently date back to 8th century. email - [email protected] web address - www1.somerset.gov.uk/archives/SHC/intro.htm (d) Find My Past has apparently released BDM records for Manchester, going back to the 1700s. Not sure when they were released. Hope this helps someone, Joan Nichols

Rhonda Did you check the Bound or the printed Indents? They each record slightly different information eg To whom assigned Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 4/06/2011 6:43 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Hello Listers > > James Bright arrived 1835 per Marquis of Huntley 4, I have looked at his indent, it make no mention of his assignment, the next time we hear about him is 1837 assigned to Assist Surveyor Bourke and on the 1837 Muster he's on Goat Island, the next mention is on his ticket of leave in 1842. > > I can't figure what happened to him in the intervening years between 1835 to 1837 and then till 1842 T/L. > I would appreaciate all suggestions please on where I might search for him. > > At this point I have hit a brick wall in my search for details > Cheers Rhonda >

Hello Listers James Bright arrived 1835 per Marquis of Huntley 4, I have looked at his indent, it make no mention of his assignment, the next time we hear about him is 1837 assigned to Assist Surveyor Bourke and on the 1837 Muster he's on Goat Island, the next mention is on his ticket of leave in 1842. I can't figure what happened to him in the intervening years between 1835 to 1837 and then till 1842 T/L. I would appreaciate all suggestions please on where I might search for him. At this point I have hit a brick wall in my search for details Cheers Rhonda