Thanks Lesley for that. Do you think it a reasonable assumption then that it was just his time as they say. By the way I have done a little more digging on TROVE and I believe this Michael Coughlan to be living in Singleton or at least Patrick's Plains by 1838 and carrying on his trade as a shoemaker. This would tie together a number of loose threads I believe. I have yet to track down the records from Maitland Gaol after he was caught for absconding but this is in progress. Thank you very much for all your help in this matter as the pieces as far as they are currently available are all falling into place. Like joan Ford, I am having trouble tying down his parents, DoB or place of birth but this is another story. Thanks again so much, Rob. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Friday, 1 July 2011 10:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] musters Hi Rob, The 1837 General Return of Convicts (book version) is not a 1837 General Muster. Part of the Introduction states: "It is not a product of a muster in the usually accepted sense. It is the result of a wholly clerical reconstruction The vast majority of its entries are based on the 1836 Census" My comment - it does not include everyone who was a convict at that time - much as the 1828 NSW Census does not.. The 8 year rule was a bit more than that and the rules changed at times. At one time (Gov. Brisbane ) a Lifer had to have served no more than 3 masters over 8 years. He should not have been convicted of any crime of misdemeanour in the colony and had to be honest, sober and of asn industrious character. Given the above, he also had to obtain approval from the resident Magistrate. By 1827 (Governor Darling) the rules changed again and a Lifer had to have served no more than one Master over 8 years OR no more than two Masters over 10 years OR no more than three Masters over 12 years..... and the rules were again changed in Governor Bourkes time. And given the rules at various times there were also other considerations whereby a convict could receive a TOL a lot earlier. I don't believe that his trade of Shoemaker was seen as a valuable asset (although useful) - although that is my opinion only Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 1/07/2011 11:34 AM, Rob Coughlan wrote: > Hi Lesley > I was just following up on my recent advices. The fact that Michael > Coughlan is not listed in the 1837 return seems strange. He received his > ticket of leave that year for Maitland Police District. This was > transferred to Patrick's Plains in 1839 just prior to his marriage to Ann > Kershaw. I have always thought it strange he received his ToL in 1837. He > was firstly sentenced to transportation for life. Given the 8 year rule > that would make him eligible for his ToL in 1836. However I would have > thought that given he had absconded in 1834 and that he was on the periphery > of a theft case in Sydney when he was captured, that this would count as > somewhat bad behaviour given the thinking of the time. Do you think it was > because he was a mechanic and his labour was I demand in the private sector > that he received his ticket? The opposite to this line of thinking would be > the government or a landowner would see his trade of shoemaker as a valuable > asset and delay his ticket, which I believe was not unknown. But again what > seems strange is that he was not gobbled up by the system even earlier for > just this same reason. It all appears a bit of a mystery to me. And again > he is not on the convict muster? Could he have absented himself? And if so > surely they would have caught up with him in 1839 when his ticket was > transferred and he applied to marry. Any comments? Thanks, Rob Coughlan > > -----Original Message----- ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected]sweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Select Surname <javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Surname')> Firstname <javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Firstname')>Alias<javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Alias')> Vessel <javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Vessel')>Year<javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Year')> No <javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$No')>Date<javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Date')> RecordType <javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$RecordType')>Citation<javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Citation')> Remarks <javascript:__doPostBack('GridView1','Sort$Remarks')>LAWRENCEJohn Barossa183946/598 Ticket of Leave[4/4207; Reel 959]District: Port Macquarie; Tried: Glouc City QS >From Convict Records NSW *Convicts & Deserters* 858 Lawrence John Barossa tol canceled absent from district; Port Macquarie;22 Nov 1850 p 1802 Read more: http://www.terrycallaghan.net/RootFolder4/convicts_deserters_names.html#ixzz1R54Qm8xE Read more: http://www.terrycallaghan.net/RootFolder4/convicts_deserters_names.html#ixzz1R54Qm8xE Hope this helps Cheers Ray On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Derek BURR <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > My Convict John Lawrence arrived on the Barossa on 8/12/1839. > > On Trove I found that the Barossa convicts were removed from Hyde Barracks > to Cook's River on 16/12/1839 under the superintendent of works Mr Jones > previously Assistant Chief Constable of Sydney. > > There were 334 male convicts on the Barossa. Was it normal for that many > convicts to be on a work gang? > > Can anyone give me any information on Cook's River? > > thanks > > Derek > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Ray Chilton* E-mail [email protected]

Hi Derek The short answer is to asist with the building of another barracks as the one at Hyde Park was full and the building of a dam across Cook's River. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 3/07/2011 8:41 PM, Derek BURR wrote: > Hi > My Convict John Lawrence arrived on the Barossa on 8/12/1839. > > On Trove I found that the Barossa convicts were removed from Hyde Barracks > to Cook's River on 16/12/1839 under the superintendent of works Mr Jones > previously Assistant Chief Constable of Sydney. > > There were 334 male convicts on the Barossa. Was it normal for that many > convicts to be on a work gang? > > Can anyone give me any information on Cook's River? > > thanks > > Derek > >

Hi My Convict John Lawrence arrived on the Barossa on 8/12/1839. On Trove I found that the Barossa convicts were removed from Hyde Barracks to Cook's River on 16/12/1839 under the superintendent of works Mr Jones previously Assistant Chief Constable of Sydney. There were 334 male convicts on the Barossa. Was it normal for that many convicts to be on a work gang? Can anyone give me any information on Cook's River? thanks Derek

Hi Robyn Have you considered that the following from the NSW BDMs may be his death 11553/1885 UNDERWOOD WILLIAM AGE 81 YEARS DIED MAITLAND WEST MAITLAND The age given matches given that he stated he was 31 years of age when he arrived in 1835 Your second question is off topic so should be asked on another list. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 1/07/2011 4:27 PM, Robyn Murray wrote: > Re : William Underwood ( Convict) who came on the "Westmoreland" in 1835. Still always searching from related people and any information on what happened to William. He was the convict brother to my GG Grandmother Louisa Underwood who was sent to VDL on the Emma Eugenia 3 in 1844. Both were convicted of counterfeiting and were from Bristol.Hopeful some day, I might find a connection to someone related to William. > > Re: Mary Farrell .Also thank you to Kevin Wilson from Qld with his response to my query on Mary Farrell ( my GG Grandmother ) . I have now solved the mystery about her.Kevin you guided me in the right direction and my Mary is the Mary you suggested. She was Mary Farrell who came on the "Hope" in 1842. Mary was from Clane, Co Kildare and came out as a Bounty Immigrant. The Bounty of 19 Pounds was paid by Mr John Miller. Her brother Michael was on the Hope with her and I see from the records it states- under the protection of her brother Michael. I think Michael married a Mary Ryan from Yass. Does anyone have any information on Mr John Miller? I see on the "Hope" records he paid the Bounty for many of the Irish girls. > > Robyn Murray >

Hi Liz (and everyone else) I found some information on a George Picken/Pickering when researching someone else. I don't know if it relates to your family. A George Picken married a Martha Day (nee Hughes) in 1833: NSM BDM Index reference V18332672 74A/1833 PICKEN GEORGE DAY MARTHA JA Some notes I had written down (which must have been from the NSW Convicts Permission to Marry database): Pickering George 35 "Little Mary" 7 years free to Martha Hughes (Day crossed out) 40 "Wanstead" Life bond Scots Church Oct 16 You might like to look for him in the 1828 NSW Census under both these surnames. Sorry for the poor referencing - it would need rechecking. Kind regards Helen On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Elizabeth Walker <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello all, > > Can anyone tell me about George Pickering, who came here in the early > 1800s. I have a Pickering family who emigrated to Australia > in the 1800s, and I am wondering if there is a connection. > > Liz Walker. > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Re : William Underwood ( Convict) who came on the "Westmoreland" in 1835. Still always searching from related people and any information on what happened to William. He was the convict brother to my GG Grandmother Louisa Underwood who was sent to VDL on the Emma Eugenia 3 in 1844. Both were convicted of counterfeiting and were from Bristol.Hopeful some day, I might find a connection to someone related to William. Re: Mary Farrell .Also thank you to Kevin Wilson from Qld with his response to my query on Mary Farrell ( my GG Grandmother ) . I have now solved the mystery about her.Kevin you guided me in the right direction and my Mary is the Mary you suggested. She was Mary Farrell who came on the "Hope" in 1842. Mary was from Clane, Co Kildare and came out as a Bounty Immigrant. The Bounty of 19 Pounds was paid by Mr John Miller. Her brother Michael was on the Hope with her and I see from the records it states- under the protection of her brother Michael. I think Michael married a Mary Ryan from Yass. Does anyone have any information on Mr John Miller? I see on the "Hope" records he paid the Bounty for many of the Irish girls. Robyn Murray

Hi Rob, The 1837 General Return of Convicts (book version) is not a 1837 General Muster. Part of the Introduction states: "It is not a product of a muster in the usually accepted sense. It is the result of a wholly clerical reconstruction The vast majority of its entries are based on the 1836 Census" My comment - it does not include everyone who was a convict at that time - much as the 1828 NSW Census does not.. The 8 year rule was a bit more than that and the rules changed at times. At one time (Gov. Brisbane ) a Lifer had to have served no more than 3 masters over 8 years. He should not have been convicted of any crime of misdemeanour in the colony and had to be honest, sober and of asn industrious character. Given the above, he also had to obtain approval from the resident Magistrate. By 1827 (Governor Darling) the rules changed again and a Lifer had to have served no more than one Master over 8 years OR no more than two Masters over 10 years OR no more than three Masters over 12 years..... and the rules were again changed in Governor Bourkes time. And given the rules at various times there were also other considerations whereby a convict could receive a TOL a lot earlier. I don't believe that his trade of Shoemaker was seen as a valuable asset (although useful) - although that is my opinion only Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 1/07/2011 11:34 AM, Rob Coughlan wrote: > Hi Lesley > I was just following up on my recent advices. The fact that Michael > Coughlan is not listed in the 1837 return seems strange. He received his > ticket of leave that year for Maitland Police District. This was > transferred to Patrick's Plains in 1839 just prior to his marriage to Ann > Kershaw. I have always thought it strange he received his ToL in 1837. He > was firstly sentenced to transportation for life. Given the 8 year rule > that would make him eligible for his ToL in 1836. However I would have > thought that given he had absconded in 1834 and that he was on the periphery > of a theft case in Sydney when he was captured, that this would count as > somewhat bad behaviour given the thinking of the time. Do you think it was > because he was a mechanic and his labour was I demand in the private sector > that he received his ticket? The opposite to this line of thinking would be > the government or a landowner would see his trade of shoemaker as a valuable > asset and delay his ticket, which I believe was not unknown. But again what > seems strange is that he was not gobbled up by the system even earlier for > just this same reason. It all appears a bit of a mystery to me. And again > he is not on the convict muster? Could he have absented himself? And if so > surely they would have caught up with him in 1839 when his ticket was > transferred and he applied to marry. Any comments? Thanks, Rob Coughlan > > -----Original Message-----

Hi Lesley I was just following up on my recent advices. The fact that Michael Coughlan is not listed in the 1837 return seems strange. He received his ticket of leave that year for Maitland Police District. This was transferred to Patrick's Plains in 1839 just prior to his marriage to Ann Kershaw. I have always thought it strange he received his ToL in 1837. He was firstly sentenced to transportation for life. Given the 8 year rule that would make him eligible for his ToL in 1836. However I would have thought that given he had absconded in 1834 and that he was on the periphery of a theft case in Sydney when he was captured, that this would count as somewhat bad behaviour given the thinking of the time. Do you think it was because he was a mechanic and his labour was I demand in the private sector that he received his ticket? The opposite to this line of thinking would be the government or a landowner would see his trade of shoemaker as a valuable asset and delay his ticket, which I believe was not unknown. But again what seems strange is that he was not gobbled up by the system even earlier for just this same reason. It all appears a bit of a mystery to me. And again he is not on the convict muster? Could he have absented himself? And if so surely they would have caught up with him in 1839 when his ticket was transferred and he applied to marry. Any comments? Thanks, Rob Coughlan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] musters Hi Rob When we refer to the Indent we mean often the muster taken on board on arrival. These are the microfiche available in many libraries. If you noted to whom Michael was assigned then you looked at the muster taken on board when he arrived. The 1828 NSW Census (taken end 1828) Michael was still employed by W. W. Bucknell at Elms Hall, Patersons Plains - he is listed as Caughlan. After a quick check of the 1837 General Return of Convicts, I cannot find Michael under either of those spellings - and by rights he should be listed as he did not receive his CP until 1840 Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 19/06/2011 2:49 PM, Rob Coughlan wrote: > How could I locate the on board muster for the Florentia (1) 1828 for > a convict Michael Coughlan. Also Iindent states assigned to William > Bucknell on the Alleyn River. I have details of this property and no > record of Michael being there so I am assuming he arrived. Next > mention of him is a court case in Sydney 1835 where it mentions him as > an absconder from Wollombi Bridge Party. Found not guilty in the > court case but held in custody as an absconder. Sent to Newcastle > Gaol then Maitland Gaol for disposal. As I live in WA it is a lttle > difficult to get to NSW State Archives to view and copy these > documents. No further mention of him until his ticket of leave in > 1837. Is it possible to find out details of the period he was with > Bucknell or are those records lost. Great northern Road Project can > not help me with Wollombi Bridge Party and I am having trouble finding > anything out about it. Can anybody assist with suggestions to chase > up these leads? Rob Coughlan > > ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Liz Where have you looked so far? There were three convicts by that name to arrive in the very early 1800s, but I don't know if they were related to free immigrants at all. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 30/06/2011 2:24 PM, Elizabeth Walker wrote: > Hello all, > > Can anyone tell me about George Pickering, who came here in the early > 1800s. I have a Pickering family who emigrated to Australia > in the 1800s, and I am wondering if there is a connection. > > Liz Walker. > >

Hello all, Can anyone tell me about George Pickering, who came here in the early 1800s. I have a Pickering family who emigrated to Australia in the 1800s, and I am wondering if there is a connection. Liz Walker.

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Hi Natalie, I am interested on any information you can supply on Thomas Lisson. Regards Peter Russell -----Original Message----- From: I Baig Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] HENRY KABLE Hi everyone, I replied to Kala off list, but have plenty of information about Thomas Lisson and Ann Bradwell, if anyone else is interested. Regards, Natalie ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have some newspaper reports of some members of the Florentia (1) 1828, being tried for absconding and in their court case mentioning conditionor the crew on the way out and their treatment uner the Master, Billet. I would like to see a transcript of that trial if it is possible. Does anyone know hwere these might be available, if they are that is? Rob Coughlan

Hi everyone, I replied to Kala off list, but have plenty of information about Thomas Lisson and Ann Bradwell, if anyone else is interested. Regards, Natalie

this bounced so am resending: Hi Kala I have Henry Kable in my tree - distant connection but I've got a big tree! He has a lot of connections at Orange, so wld suggest you write to the Orange Family History Group and I'm fairly sure one of the ladies there will have documents to copy you. In the meantime: Henry Kable born about 1766 Suffolk, England; died 16 March 1846 Windsor NSW; married 10 Feb 1788 to Susannah Holmes at Port Jackson. She was born 6 Mar 1764 Surlingham, Norfolk, England and died 8 Nov 1825 WIndsor. Her parents were Joshua Holmes and Eunice Brooks. I have 9 kids for them: WIlliam Nathanial born 22.3.1801 Henry 1788 Diana 1788 Enoch 1791 James 1793 Henry 1801 Diana 1799 Edgar J 1806 Charles I know some of the first names repeat but in those days, if kids died young, they would give later births same name. I can see someone is replying off list to you but if you end up with blanks let me know as I am on ancestry.com and can do further lookups for you there - the above is very rudimentary. regards Lina Moffitt http://www.indigohealthla.com http://www.quintopublishing.com http://farrarfamilyhistory.weebly.com/ http://www.kandos-rylstone.weebly.com http://www.ormsby.weebly.com http://comer-danero-neich-family.weebly.com To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. Abraham Lincoln The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose. Frederick Douglass

Hi Kala I also have this guy in my tree and here is some info Lesley gave me some years ago: a seaman (Arbroath was a fishing village), millwright, labourer and shingler. Convict -- sentenced at Winchester, Deptford London - assized to life, commuted to 7yrs, transported for robbing a pantry. He gave his native place as Arbroath Scotland. Surrey I (6) arr 26 11 1831 NSW dep 17 07 1831 Portsmouth 132days 200males dep 199 arr Master; Chas Kemp Surgeon: Colin A Browning Disposed of to Mr Thomas Jarman Hawkins (of Blackdown & Walmer). The 1837 muster has him assigned to Alexander Kenneth MacKenzie (1st Secretary Bathurst Bank). Then on Alexander's death, to W.H. McKenzie on his 200 acre property "Dockairne" at Kelso for 6 years. Ticket of Leave granted on petition 14 May 1839 for reassignment, granted 1st Aug 1840 as WH McKenzie returning to Sydney. On 1st Mar 1848 Conditional Pardon issued. James arranged forhis wife Sarah and two children to join him in Australia, they arrived 18th Feb 1833 on "Sir Thomas Munro". Apparently their relationship did not last.They had 3 more children then a further 3 were born who, although registered as Bruce, may actually have been children of George Schofield, a colourful Barraba identity. Sarah died as Sarah Schofield on 9th Jan 1877 "Bogo-Bogolong Station", Grenfell. She left her first 5 children with James and took last 3 to live with George at Bobo-Bogolong. There was an inquest into Sarah's death. The Indent for the "Surrey" 1831 states that James Bruce was 40 years of age when he arrived. James was a Protestant and could read and write. He was a married man with 2 children. His native place was stated to be Arbroath (this is about 17 miles to the North East of Dundee). He gave his occupations as Seaman, Mill Wright and Labourer. He was tried at Winchester on the 28 February 1831 and received a Life sentence for robbing a pantry. It was his first conviction. On the 24th February 1847 James was recommended for a Conditional Pardon and he received it on the 1 March 1848 - No. 48/640. He was issued with a Ticket of Leave in 1840 No. 40/1690. On arrival he has been assigned to a Mr J. F. Hawkins of Bathurst and then had been assigned to Mr. A. K. McKenzie of Bathurst (according to the General Return of Convicts in NSW - 1837) A Mrs Sarah Bruce and 2 children arrived from Hobart on the Sir Thomas Munro (see Archives Office of Tasmania web site) - this ship left Hobart on t! he 11 February 1833. According to the Convictions web site the following people departed on the Sir Thomas Munro Sarah, James, Henry & John for Sydney in 1833. I am a little confused here as I do not know the names of the 2 children of James and Sarah. These people do not appear to have arrived IN Hobart on the Sir Thomas Munro so may have arrived on another ship. and from my other info: he was born 8 Jun 1791 Holburn Lying in Hospital married Sarah Anne Burney 2 sons Henry Bruce 1831 James Bruce 12.2.1822 I have a descendancy chart if you're interested - my line goes down through Henry 1831-1890 who married Mary Ann Walker and their son George William Bruce Lina Moffitt http://www.indigohealthla.com http://www.quintopublishing.com http://farrarfamilyhistory.weebly.com/ http://www.kandos-rylstone.weebly.com http://www.ormsby.weebly.com http://comer-danero-neich-family.weebly.com To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. Abraham Lincoln The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose. Frederick Douglass

This is not a request for help on researching any particular convict. Am seeking your opinions on whether comprehensive biographical information is online for ALL the FIRST FLEET CONVICTS. Have heard comments at our local FHA library, like "convicts are easy, its all online". With little experience in convict research; decided as a test case to use First Fleet female convicts named "Mary" (52 I think). Visited several First Fleet sites and other convict sites. Only found about half the "Marys" with any decent biographical information. Presently writing a short article for our FH magazine in appreciation of all the researchers and indexers who make life so easy for us. Mentioned in particular is one who in 1988 compiled an Index to the Profiles of Female Convicts 1788 – 1822. Following the convict theme, have listed two research tips for biographical information not available online (I think). See below, am I on the right track? MUTCH CARD INDEXES: BIRTHS, DEATHS AND MARRIAGES INDEX These bound volumes were compiled by THOMAS DAVIES MUTCH and are arranged in two date ranges: 1787-1814 and 1815-1957. The index claims to cover all existing birth, death and marriage records relating to New South Wales from 1787-1828, except the Newcastle Register and the Methodist Church records; and selected records up to 1957. Included are: First Fleet records, convict indents, 1790-1806, musters and censuses, 1802-1841, parish registers, birth, death and marriage records, 1787-c. 1957, land records, 1792-1825, Tasmanian records, 1803-1870, Norfolk Island records, 1792-1814, and Pitcairn Island records. ‘THE FOUNDERS OF AUSTRALIA: a biographical dictionary of the First Fleet’ by Mollie Gillen Limited ed. of 2,500 copies. This classic reference book took 20 years to compile. It has 1,442 biographical entries for every known person who sailed on the First Fleet whether child, convict, sailor, marine or officer. The Abstract of Biographical Data Appendix 10 is so easy to read; detailing Name; Arrival - Ship, Age, Status; Tried - When, Where; Born - When, Where; Spouse; Married; Issue No. Of; Died – When, Where; Last Record [Year]; Left Colony [Year]; Trade or Profession – Pre 1788, Post 1788. Thank you Margaret Picard

Hi Lesley Thank you for the information on breakup of the convict establishment. His brother George's death records do not give his parents, nor does his sister's records who was Mrs Eliza Hammond who died in VDL in 1831. Nor does George's will mention parents or other family. George was in the Napoleonic wars and I am now trying to get a record of his service and that may provide those details. Will keep trying Regards Robyn

Hi Kala I dont have any of these as an ancestor but here are some starters. There is lots on Henry Kable and Susannah Holmes, try adbonline (use google) Try this site for others who have research these people http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Try the book series Historical Records of Australia and Historical Records of NSW. Try the various categories of records indexed online at http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-online Simply use google exact wording by putting in each name Try the earlier newspapers online on Trove http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y Use the sites on Cora Webb's site at http://www.coraweb.com.au/convict.htm good luck with your project Grahame On 26/06/2011, at 3:47 PM, Kala wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to the list & trying to put a 'surprise' book together for my father on his bloodline convicts. > > Being a high school student I don't have the finances to pay for Gvt BDM certificates or subscriptions to online companies to obtain these. > > Therefore I was hoping to find some people here who may be related & have certificates, documents, parish records, pictures or photos of the following familes. > > I am quite happy to reimbuse people for copies. > > Kindest regards, > > Kala > > Convict List: > > Henry KABLE Friendship 21 Jan 1788 > Susannah HOLMES Friendship 21 Jan 1788 > Hannah LEESON/LISSON Mary Ann 09 Jul 1791 > Thomas LISSON/LEESON Royal Admiral (1) 07 Oct 1792 > Judith BIDWELL Surprize (2) 25 Oct 1794 > Ann BRADWELL Experiment 26 Apr 1804 > John TEALE Indefatigable (2) 25 Apr 1815 > James WINTON Larkins 22 Nov 1817 > James SHERIDAN Phoenix III 25 Dec 1826 > James BRUCE Surrey (6) 26 Nov 1831 > Catherine BLAKE Diamond 28 Mar 1838 > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message