Lesley, He was immediately forwarded to Van Diemen's Land - this from the Colonial Secretary index: FREEZER, John. Per "Ocean", 1816 1816 Dec 16 On list of convicts to be sent to the Derwent per "Kangaroo" (Reel 6005; 4/3495 p.382) and this from the Tasmania archives: Freezer, John Convict No: 24984 Extra Identifier: SEE Surname: SEE Given Names: Voyage Ship: Kangaroo Voyage No: Arrival Date: 16 Dec 1816 Departure Date: Departure Port: Conduct Record: Muster Roll: Appropriation List: Other Records: CON13/1/1 <http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=CON13/1/1> p72 Indent: Description List: Remarks: To NSW per Ocean You will need to find a Tasmanian newsgroup for more help I guess. There also may be newspaper entries for John Freezer on the NLA site: http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper Regards, Russell Brisbane Lesley Day wrote: >Hi Listers > > > >I was wondering if anyone would know how to get further information on John >Freezer alias Parker who is my 3rd cousin 4 time removed. He was the son of >Ann Freezer and John Parker who lived in Norfolk. > > > >The information I have is the following from Ancestry. > > > >Trial at the Lent Assizes Thetford, Norfolk the 25 March 1815 before the >Right Honorable Edward Lord Ellenborough, Chief Justice of our Lord the >King. > > > >John Freezer, alias Parker aged 22 Committed October 28th, 1814 by the Court >of Qtr Sessions holden, by adjournement for the said county of Norfolk at >Holt in the said County, charged with felony. > > > >True bill. > > > >Sentenced to Life in Australia. Convicted 25 March 1815. Voyage 1815 on >the Ocean. > > > > > >Thank you for any information anyone may able to give me. > > > >With kind regards > > > >Lesley > >Researching in Norfolk, UK > > > > > >

My apologies for this late reply, but I have been overseas. There is a short piece about the Kables on Page 58 of Sydney's "Daily Telegraph" for Thursday, 30th June, 2011. It also has a picture of my 3xgreat grandfather, Simeon Lord, who - at some stage in his career - was working with at least one of the Kable's. I'm not sure in what connection, but no doubt something to do with either importing and/or exporting. Joan Nichols

Sorry My Hall was a convict and he only had one son John who did not go to war but strange things do happen Thomas the convict had 5 daughters and one son John one daughter married a Jackson who I descend from they being my ggrand parents Also I have traced the fact that they are not related to Ben Hall even though they come from the Maitland district from where Ben came from Sussan Hall who married Thomas Hall in UK followed him out here as a free person with 3 daughters the other 3 were born in NSW He drowned in Sydney Harbour before the last girl was born Sussan married William Jones and had a boy and girl with him That is my Hall Jones history Nita Fraser

Hello Nita, I know this is a very long shot, but it caught my eye because I had an uncle by marriage, Thomas Hall, who died on the San Dakan death march towards the end of World War II. I suspect he would have been born early-ish in the 20th cent. and I don't know his parentage but if you find a connection to him, I can tell you a little bit more about this family as he married one of my mother's five sisters - I have a suspicion the Halls had been in Australia for a long time, although I don't think there was ever a mention to connect them to Ben Hall, and I think Tom had a sister called "Carrie" (Caroline??) His younger son stayed with us to do the Intermediate Certificate during WWll, as the rest of the family had moved from Sydney to the remote country because of the risk of bombing or invasion of Sydney. I was born just before that war started, and I can still see a lot in my mind, of what life was like then, with rations, black-out coverings on home and school window, etc., searchlights at night, but that's a topic for a different site. Liz Walker On 30/07/2011 4:56 PM, Nita Fraser wrote: > Are you interested in Thomas Hall after he was drowned his wife married William Jones? > I have this family > Nita Fraser > > --

Are you interested in Thomas Hall after he was drowned his wife married William Jones? I have this family Nita Fraser

Hi Listers I was wondering if anyone would know how to get further information on John Freezer alias Parker who is my 3rd cousin 4 time removed. He was the son of Ann Freezer and John Parker who lived in Norfolk. The information I have is the following from Ancestry. Trial at the Lent Assizes Thetford, Norfolk the 25 March 1815 before the Right Honorable Edward Lord Ellenborough, Chief Justice of our Lord the King. John Freezer, alias Parker aged 22 Committed October 28th, 1814 by the Court of Qtr Sessions holden, by adjournement for the said county of Norfolk at Holt in the said County, charged with felony. True bill. Sentenced to Life in Australia. Convicted 25 March 1815. Voyage 1815 on the Ocean. Thank you for any information anyone may able to give me. With kind regards Lesley Researching in Norfolk, UK ALLCOCK/ALCOCK: Beetley, Tittleshall, Longham, Gressenhall, East Dereham,Docking, Syderstone, Tattersett ATMORE: North Elmham, Beetley, Gressenhall AYERS: Hoe, Swanton Morley, Wending and area BENNINGTON/BENNETT/BENNETTON: Great Fransham, Gressenhall, Wendling, Sporle, BLOY: Tittleshall and surrounding area BOYCE: Gressenhall, East Dereham BRIDGES: Beeston & migratory areas BUNTING: Robert Bunting b 1795 of Beeston - Stanfield BUTTERS: Hoe, Gressenhall and Bintree CASON: Longham; Wendling & surrounding areas CLAXTON: Beeston & migrating areas COE: Bradenham, Beetley, Gressenhall COPLING/COPPEN etc: Gressenhall, Beetley, North Elmham CROWN: Beetley, Gressenhall and areas DAYNES: Garvestone>Surrey DODMAN: Gressenhall, Barney, West Norfolk EKE: E Dereham & surrounding area ELLIOTT: North Tuddenham, Hockering, Mattishall, East Dereham FELLOWES: Scarning, Beetley FREEZER/FRAZER: Beetley, Gressenhall, Syderstone, Holkham, E Barsham, Anmer,Beeston, Mileham & Worldwide HARMAN: Beetley, Gressenhall, Longham HARMER: Salhouse, Norwich HARRIS: East Dereham HEAD: East Dereham HERRING: Sedgeford HOOKE(S): Syderstone and surrounding areas ISBELL/ISBILL: Hoe, Yaxham, Elsing and surrounding areas JARRETT: Gressenhall, Swanton Morley JOHNSON: Houghton near Harpley, West Rudham KILLENGREY and Variants: Stoke Ferry>Longham KIRK: Hoe, Beetley & Gressenhall, East Dereham LACK: Syderstone & surrounding areas LAND: Wells, Beetley and Gressenhall LANGLEY: Syderstone, Docking and surrounding areas LUBBOCK: Kelling, Stanfield MAYES: E Dereham, Swanton Morley, Gressenhall MILLICAN: Gt Yarmouth & E Dereham MURRELL: Scarning, any connection NAILOR/NAYLOR: Bawdeswell, Billingford, Gressenhall, Elsing NEWSTEAD: Blofield, Yaxham, Mattishall Burgh PARSLEY: Blofield, Yaxham PAYNE: Wendling, Gressenhall and surrounds PHILLIPO/FLUPOT: Litcham, Longham PRESTON: Longham PURPLE: Longham, ALL RAMM: Houghton RAPER: Kings Lynn >East Dereham RAYNER: Wendling, Longham SPOONER: Gressenhall, North Elmham SYMONDS: Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall TEBBLE/TIBBLE: All THOMPSON: Longham TROLLOPE: Wiggenhall St Germans, Syderstone, Scarning, Swanton Morley TWAITES/THWAITES: Elsing, East Bradenham, Shipdham, Stanfield, Weasenham TWIGG: Beetley, Gressenhall and Mitford area and migrating of Islington area TYE: Beetley, Gressenhall, Hoe, East Bilney WATKINS: Swanton Morley WEBSDALE/WEBDALE and variants: All WHEALS/WHALES and variants: All WINTER: 1568 of Carbrook, North Elmham, Longham, Beetley, Gressenhall, Norwich, Loddon, Lowestoft, Bungay>Islington, Edmonton, Leyton>Redhill Surrey

Lyn, there is the famous male English novelist Evelyn Waugh (1903-1966) who wrote "Brideshead revisited". http://kirjasto.sci.fi/ewaugh.htm Ray On 30 July 2011 09:44, Stan Elgood <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > On checking NSW BDM, I found a MALE Evelyn Yeaman marrying Mary J. Russell > at Cobar in 1883. > > Perhaps Evelyn was a male name as well as a female name back then. > > Lyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff and Margaret Bell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:47 PM > Subject: [PJ] another > newbieBolton/Smith/Griffin/Hall/Jones/Mills/Cameron/Yeaman > > > > I'm new to the list > > > > At present the convicts we know about are on my husband's side > > > > Ann Smith - Experiment 24.6.1804 > > > > Robert Bolton - Perseus 4.8.1802 > > > > Mary Ann Griffiths/Griffin - probably born to convict mother at > Parramatta > > or on route to Oz > > > > Richard Hall/ John Jones - Perseus 4.8.1802 > > > > James Mills/Cameron - Chapman 26.7.1817 > > > > On my side I have a stray Evelyn Yeaman whose death certificate states > > that she was born in Gympie in 1868 and that her mother is Ellen Adams > and > > her father is Andrew Yeaman. I can't find any records to corroborate > that. > > If anyone can provide more info on any of these I would be extremely > > grateful > > > > Margaret Bell > > > > ---------------------- > > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have replied off list. Regards, June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff and Margaret Bell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:47 PM Subject: [PJ] another newbieBolton/Smith/Griffin/Hall/Jones/Mills/Cameron/Yeaman

Hi Margaret, On checking NSW BDM, I found a MALE Evelyn Yeaman marrying Mary J. Russell at Cobar in 1883. Perhaps Evelyn was a male name as well as a female name back then. Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff and Margaret Bell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:47 PM Subject: [PJ] another newbieBolton/Smith/Griffin/Hall/Jones/Mills/Cameron/Yeaman > I'm new to the list > > At present the convicts we know about are on my husband's side > > Ann Smith - Experiment 24.6.1804 > > Robert Bolton - Perseus 4.8.1802 > > Mary Ann Griffiths/Griffin - probably born to convict mother at Parramatta > or on route to Oz > > Richard Hall/ John Jones - Perseus 4.8.1802 > > James Mills/Cameron - Chapman 26.7.1817 > > On my side I have a stray Evelyn Yeaman whose death certificate states > that she was born in Gympie in 1868 and that her mother is Ellen Adams and > her father is Andrew Yeaman. I can't find any records to corroborate that. > If anyone can provide more info on any of these I would be extremely > grateful > > Margaret Bell > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm new to the list At present the convicts we know about are on my husband's side Ann Smith - Experiment 24.6.1804 Robert Bolton - Perseus 4.8.1802 Mary Ann Griffiths/Griffin - probably born to convict mother at Parramatta or on route to Oz Richard Hall/ John Jones - Perseus 4.8.1802 James Mills/Cameron - Chapman 26.7.1817 On my side I have a stray Evelyn Yeaman whose death certificate states that she was born in Gympie in 1868 and that her mother is Ellen Adams and her father is Andrew Yeaman. I can't find any records to corroborate that. If anyone can provide more info on any of these I would be extremely grateful Margaret Bell

Just a bit of information on the Collinson name. There is a Collinson St in Tenambit near Maitland I was told this was because a family of that named lived there for quite a few generations. Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Nicholls Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2011 12:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PJ] Kath's Thomas Collison. Hi Kath and Listers, Sorry, the Collisons I referred to, Andrew Alfred and his father Thomas are the Windsor/Richmond Collinsons. Best regards........Ian. ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kath and Listers, Sorry, the Collisons I referred to, Andrew Alfred and his father Thomas are the Windsor/Richmond Collinsons. Best regards........Ian.

No, Gerry - he is not listed. He must have died after he received his CP in 1848 Lesley http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 27/07/2011 12:25 AM, Irelandcrokepark wrote: > Lesley, > > Could you check if John Keough Parmelia II (1834) is mentioned in the transcripts of convict deaths. > > > > Sent from phone > >

Thanks Ian for your reply. We have no Andrew from what one can see in their tree. I could send a copy of their family tree if may help . We are been lucky enough to know a wealth of info on our Thomas who arrived 1828 Sydney. Although must say what we learnt as children in the 1930 re The family and what the gov records have shown us has given a different story like ever so many convicts. Regards Kath -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Nicholls Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 9:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PJ] Kath's Thomas Collison. Hi Lesley and Kath, Thanks Lesley for your input on the Collisons. Kath, I'm from Freemans Reach, and in 1891 one of my lot was married for a while to Andrew Alfred Collison, the son of Thomas Collison. Best regards......Ian. ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lesley, Could you check if John Keough Parmelia II (1834) is mentioned in the transcripts of convict deaths. Sent from phone On 25 Jul 2011, at 08:31, "Kath Connors" <[email protected]> wrote: > Many thanks Lesley for you help. We have his life story and how he bucked > the system of that time, his wife and son James continued to live on "CAVAN" > Station. > Kath > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley > Uebel > Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 4:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PJ] convict deaths recorded > > Hi Kath > > I transcribed the convict deaths over a decade ago. > > Thomas is listed as dying in Queanbeyan and being in receipt of TOL > Number 44/383. I note from the NSW State Records that this TOL was also > for Queanbeyan. > > You will often not find these deaths recorded in the church records. > > Regards > > Lesley > http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html > CLAIM A CONVICT > > > email: [email protected] > > On 24/07/2011 3:39 PM, Kath Connors wrote: >> Hello listeners >> >> , >> >> Many years ago I recall seeing an old book at Globe street Sydney Before > the >> Dept. moved to Kingswood, >> >> with records of convict's deaths from their masters etc. Would any member >> recall seeing it please. >> >> >> Our ancestor Thomas Collison who arrived on the convict ship " Countess Oh >> Harcout' 1828, was assigned as a >> >> Sheppard on the Rendell's property at BUNGENDORE& GIDLEIGH in 1845 > where >> he died, no record can be >> >> found after many long years of searching. >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> Kath >> >> > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Lisa! I just find my Phoebe (Phabe) Tunstall among them cheers Anne Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Apfel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:24 PM Subject: [PJ] Rev Marsden's female list 1806 > Hi Listers, > Just came across the digitised copy of "Samuel Marsden - Essays > concerning > New South Wales, 1807-18--, with list of females in the colony," 1806? At > the NSW State Library > http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=423135 > Lisa > > > > ---------------------- > To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers, Just came across the digitised copy of "Samuel Marsden - Essays concerning New South Wales, 1807-18--, with list of females in the colony," 1806? At the NSW State Library http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=423135 Lisa

Hi Lesley and Kath, Thanks Lesley for your input on the Collisons. Kath, I'm from Freemans Reach, and in 1891 one of my lot was married for a while to Andrew Alfred Collison, the son of Thomas Collison. Best regards......Ian.

Thanks Lesley for those comments, our Edward Powell had many convicts With him when he first landed at " Cornwallis" 1795 ? many left the are and moved north so the family told us. Kath -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 8:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PJ] Kath's Thomas Collison. Ian I am not sure, but Thomas was the son of John Collison/Collinson who arrived as a convict on the Glory in 1818 and was living in Windsor when he married. Both Thomas Collison per Countess of Harcourt and John Collison/Collinson per Glory (with his brother Joseph?) were tried in London, although 11 years apart. Regards Lesley Uebel http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html CLAIM A CONVICT email: [email protected] On 24/07/2011 6:34 PM, Ian Nicholls wrote: > Hi Kath and Listers, > Does anyone know if there is any connection > between Kath's Thomas Collison and the Thomas Collison family in Richmond > NSW who were around in the 1850-1900 + period? > Best regards.........Ian Nicholls. > ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ian, I grew up on the Lowlands Richmond and have often wondered if their was a connection. In early days Windsor was the home for the collison's. Kath -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Nicholls Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 6:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PJ] Kath's Thomas Collison. Hi Kath and Listers, Does anyone know if there is any connection between Kath's Thomas Collison and the Thomas Collison family in Richmond NSW who were around in the 1850-1900 + period? Best regards.........Ian Nicholls. ---------------------- To send a message to the Port Jackson Convicts List, send an email to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message