Hi Everyone, I have answered Suzanne offlist Linda At 09:51 PM 13/03/04 +0000, you wrote: >Hello Everyone,i have just joined the list and hope i am on the right one. ><snip>

HI Listers, I am looking for any information on the families of WILLIAM ALFRED ARTLETT & MARIA MCGARRITY married at Cuffs Hotel, Canonbar in 1874. WILLIAM died in COBAR 1931 and MARIA died 1937 in COBAR. Children of the marriage FRANCIS ARTHUR, HARRIETT ELIZA, ALFRED EARNEST married ETHEL MACGUIRK, LUCY JANE married GEORGE CAVE (my grandparents), EMMA, MARION DORA married John NEWBOLD, ALEXANDER H, HOWARD H. who I believe died in mining accident COBAR....Would like to find out more re accident, LELSIE married FLORENCE BROADMAN. Also would any one know when the first articles would have been written in newspapers in COBAR, NYNGAN and BOURKE. LUCY was born 20 December 1882 and had an accident with a result lost two fingers. I believe she was between the ages of 12 and 14. Would be most grateful to find out any inforamtion on these families. Regards, Jan McFarland. Central Coast. NSW.

Hi to Everyone, I have just added Bush Cemeteries and Lone Graves to my website. I have also updated White Cliffs Cemetery. Thanks to everyone for their great response to my site. Mary Wilson http://members.iinet.net.au/~mewilson

----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: [NSW-W] [Admin] Important e-mail address change > Hi Everyone, > > Many of you will have had reason to check (and give thanks for) the License > Holders and Publican listed on the NSW-West home page at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ > > A number of these also relate to the list-area covered by AUS-NSW-CENTRAL. > > These are the wonderful work of Rusheen Craig, who has just had an e-mail > address change. She did understand that her mail would be forwarded for six > months, and has just discovered this is not so. I will be changing her > address on all the web pages tonight, but she and I are concerned that > people may have saved e-mails from her (she has had a number of queries > relating to the pages) or have her in their address books, and may attempt > unsuccessfully to contact her. > > Rusheen's new e-mail address is rusheen@optusnet.com.au > > While posts to lists from people just saying "I have changed my e-mail > address" are not something that is encouraged (if you have a surname > listing, please do write to me, but offlist, telling me what and where it > is, and I can change it. You also need to unsubscribe yourself using the > old address and resubscribe using the new address - just writing to the > list does not do it for you). > > However Rusheen's work is so important that people may well need to know > this change, especially if they are in the middle of a "conversation" with > her, as she can no longer access her old e-mail address to help people. > > Cheers > > Linda > List-admin AUS-NSW-WEST, AUS-NSW-CENTRAL > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to Surnames for further details. >

Hi Everyone, Many of you will have had reason to check (and give thanks for) the License Holders and Publican listed on the NSW-West home page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ A number of these also relate to the list-area covered by AUS-NSW-CENTRAL. These are the wonderful work of Rusheen Craig, who has just had an e-mail address change. She did understand that her mail would be forwarded for six months, and has just discovered this is not so. I will be changing her address on all the web pages tonight, but she and I are concerned that people may have saved e-mails from her (she has had a number of queries relating to the pages) or have her in their address books, and may attempt unsuccessfully to contact her. Rusheen's new e-mail address is rusheen@optusnet.com.au While posts to lists from people just saying "I have changed my e-mail address" are not something that is encouraged (if you have a surname listing, please do write to me, but offlist, telling me what and where it is, and I can change it. You also need to unsubscribe yourself using the old address and resubscribe using the new address - just writing to the list does not do it for you). However Rusheen's work is so important that people may well need to know this change, especially if they are in the middle of a "conversation" with her, as she can no longer access her old e-mail address to help people. Cheers Linda List-admin AUS-NSW-WEST, AUS-NSW-CENTRAL

Hi Everyone, This is just to announce that a new website has been launched for the AUSTRALIAN-PLACENAMES list at Rootsweb. It is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AP/index.html While it doesn't give you the meaning of the placenames then and there, it has an impressive listing of places where you can go looking for your information. Although it is best for those looking for place names in Victoria, it does have some clues to where to look for obscure NSW place names as well. And, let's face it - we have a fair few of them (obscure place names, that is!) Cheers Linda

A reunion will be held for the descendants of James and Mary Melville. Meet: Sunday 2nd May 2004 - 12 Noon. Where: McQuade Park, Windsor, NSW (Moses Street side, opposite St. Matthew's, Windsor) James and Mary Melville arrived in October 1838, on the " Mandarin", from Ireland. For any information,on the reunion, please contact me, David Beddie on the following email address: dbeddie@ozemail.com.au Please advise, in advance, if you are attending, so that we can have an indication of numbers. Regards David Beddie, Raby, NSW

Sandra: Wongarbon is 17 kms east of Dubbo Spelt back to front No Brag Now Wongarbon Public School Had it's centenary 1987. My mother went to school at Eulomogo. I have the Centenary book. I will read through it for you to see if I can come up with what you may want to know. The name Cleaver is still a family name here in Dubbo and Gilgandra. John Mason eeastrid@bigpond.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra & David <sandave@ceinternet.com.au> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:18 pm Subject: Re: [NSW-W] look-ups offered. > Bernice, > I met a man in Canberra early this month partly to find out his > knowledgeabout a school where I taught for 11 years before a > medical retirement. The > man in question is the 70 + year old son of a former principal of > my former > school.Much of our discussion was about Wongarbon School rather > than Erina > Heights which I understand his father was largely instrumental in > gettinggoing or at least getting on the straight and narrow.If you > should have any > references to Mr Cleaver at Wongarbon about 60 or more years back > then I > would welcome them . I will then pass them on Mr Cleaver jnr in > Canberrapartly as a way of thanking him for his time and for > donating some photos to > my former school. I heard stories about Wongarbon such as Mr > Cleaver owned a > car but the only policeman owned a horse. When the policeman had > to go to > outlying properties to identity bodies etc then he called on the > teacher to > drive him and act as witness. > I'm assuming that Wongarbon is the place just outside Dubbo. There > couldn'tbe two cities like Wongarbon surely. > Regards > David > Central Coast NSW > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go > to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to > Surnames for further details. > >

Hi there Sandra and David,tis Bernice here,,Had a bit of a quick look,found this little bit,Fredrick Cleaver was Head teacher April 1934.but this might bring a smile or two. "I recall one April Fools Day when Mr Cleaver sent an unsuspecting lad around to Murrays store to buy a can of striped paint.However, later the joke was reversed when the teacher was bending over to light the incinerator ---a tail was pinned on him.All the pupils were highly amused,Sir wasn't. Norah Mines(nee Radburn.)page 61.Have a nice evening.PS. did you get previous email re Shelly Beach?

Hi there David,tis Bernice here,tried twice to send direct to you but kept bouncing. Okay seeing that I live at Shelly Beach I might be able to let to look at the book.I will be in Gosford Hospitial from the 3rd March for about 10 days. Let me know what you would like to do.have a nice day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & David" <sandave@ceinternet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [NSW-W] look-ups offered. > Bernice, > I met a man in Canberra early this month partly to find out his knowledge > about a school where I taught for 11 years before a medical retirement. The > man in question is the 70 + year old son of a former principal of my former > school.Much of our discussion was about Wongarbon School rather than Erina > Heights which I understand his father was largely instrumental in getting > going or at least getting on the straight and narrow.If you should have any > references to Mr Cleaver at Wongarbon about 60 or more years back then I > would welcome them . I will then pass them on Mr Cleaver jnr in Canberra > partly as a way of thanking him for his time and for donating some photos to > my former school. I heard stories about Wongarbon such as Mr Cleaver owned a > car but the only policeman owned a horse. When the policeman had to go to > outlying properties to identity bodies etc then he called on the teacher to > drive him and act as witness. > I'm assuming that Wongarbon is the place just outside Dubbo. There couldn't > be two cities like Wongarbon surely. > Regards > David > Central Coast NSW > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to Surnames for further details. > >

Bernice, I met a man in Canberra early this month partly to find out his knowledge about a school where I taught for 11 years before a medical retirement. The man in question is the 70 + year old son of a former principal of my former school.Much of our discussion was about Wongarbon School rather than Erina Heights which I understand his father was largely instrumental in getting going or at least getting on the straight and narrow.If you should have any references to Mr Cleaver at Wongarbon about 60 or more years back then I would welcome them . I will then pass them on Mr Cleaver jnr in Canberra partly as a way of thanking him for his time and for donating some photos to my former school. I heard stories about Wongarbon such as Mr Cleaver owned a car but the only policeman owned a horse. When the policeman had to go to outlying properties to identity bodies etc then he called on the teacher to drive him and act as witness. I'm assuming that Wongarbon is the place just outside Dubbo. There couldn't be two cities like Wongarbon surely. Regards David Central Coast NSW

Hi there tis Bernice here..I have purchased a little book titled "The History of the Wongarbon Westella Eulomogo and Pilewood Schools 1887----1987.....if anyone one wants a look-up.Not indexed ,but lots of old photos.Have a nice evening.

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Dear Susan, May I suggest that you try all kinds of possible phonetic spellings. As an example, when you use the database at Land & Property Information.... http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/maps/pmap/search/pmap_websearch.display with only ....... COOM ... you get some of these possibles. COOMBADJHA DRAKE Parish COOMBAH Western division parish See county map: WINDEYER WINDEYER COOMBARRA Western division parish See county map: YANCOWINNA YANCOWINNA COOMBELL RICHMOND Parish COOMBES Western division parish See county map: RANKIN RANKIN COOMBIE Western division parish See county map: MOSSGIEL MOSSGIEL Instead of .... YUB .... try YOOB ........ etc, etc ......... You can search the various parish maps from the above web site too. The names you have are only a phonetic attempt to write down what the original word sounded like by someone who was definitely not skilled in anthropology and who spoke with a very, very different accent to the one you use now. My ancestor who also came from the Cowra - Forbes area has 3 relevant certificates but with three different spelling variations of Merriganowrie ! May I suggest too, that you put your request out to a much wider audience on GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com Ask for possible spelling variations and possible locations. There are some people on that list who are very familiar with various aboriginal languages and dialects who may be able to direct you more closely. Looking in the white pages on line, you may like to contact one of the following locally in Lismore to try to narrow the language group which may help considerably in positioning the properties / cattle stations. NSW North Coast Aboriginal Broadcasting Corporation Lismore 2480 (02) 6622 5157 PO Box 5177 East Lismore 2480 Email nswncabc@bigpond.com Aboriginal Health Deegan House Gurgun Bulahggelah 61 Uralba St Lismore 2480 (02) 6620 2741 ABORIGINAL LEGAL SERVICES (MANY RIVERS) LISMORE 3/ 15 Molesworth St (02) 6622 7088 Fax (02) 6622 7087 NSW ABORIGINAL LAND COUNCIL FAR NORTH COAST BRANCH 25 Orion St Lismore 2480 (02) 6622 1010 Yinganeh Aboriginal Womens Refuge 60 Dalley St Lismore 2480 (02) 6621 5187 Shared Vision Aboriginal Corporation 53 Conway St Lismore 2480 (02) 6621 5578 New Careers for Aboriginal People Lismore 2480 (02) 6621 7197 Ngulingah Local Aboriginal Land Council 88 C Keen St Lismore 2480 (02) 6621 5541 I hope that one of these ideas might prove worthwhile in your search. Cheers, Tony Moore @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ----- Original Message ----- From: Aileen Susan Jeffery <msaileen_j@optusnet.com.au> Date: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:45 pm Subject: [NSW-W] Help with Place locations PLEASE > Hello Listers, > > Some newly found rellies and I are trying to find where > YUBERGUNDRY and COOMBERGUNDRY would have been in 1869, my Great > Uncle died at YUBERGUNDRY 11th March 1869 and was buried at > COOMBERGUNDRY 13th March 1869, the online records show his death > as being registered in Forbes, my newly found rellies are the > Great Grand children of this chap, so far we haven't had any luck > finding these places through The Dubbo Museum, > Forbes Historical Society, Forbes Shire Council, Coonabaraban > Council, B D M,Geographical names board of NSW and Australia, > Lands Dept NSW,State Library NSW, Recordings NSW,Coolah Shire > Council, Cowra Shire Council & Historical society,Lachlan Shire > Council, National Library Canberra map room, I have recently > written to the Land Newspaper in a letter to the editor. > So far zero results. So you can see that the others have been > really putting in time trying to find these places, where should > we look next? How difficult id it to obtain Parrish maps? Some > kind person sent me a Parrish Map of the Bourke area, > unfortunately I had a computer crash and lost it. What would have > been the Parrish that covered Forbes and The Lachlan? > > Hoping against hope that someone out there will know and be kind > enough to help. > > Thank you, > Susan Jeffery > ex Bourkite living in Lismore where it is too humid to contemplate. > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > The List-admin for this list can be contacted by e-mailing > AUS-NSW-WEST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hi Listeners, Thanks to everyone who has sent their good wishes and encouragement on my website. One of the interesting queries I have had concerns Stanley Elson aka John Nielson (Aged 72 years, died 9th May 1994) buried in the Pooncarie cemetery. Has anyone ever heard of this person, or why he was known by two names? He has a war plaque, so he must have been in WW2. Best wishes Mary Wilson http://members.iinet.net.au/~mewilson

Hello Listers, Some newly found rellies and I are trying to find where YUBERGUNDRY and COOMBERGUNDRY would have been in 1869, my Great Uncle died at YUBERGUNDRY 11th March 1869 and was buried at COOMBERGUNDRY 13th March 1869, the online records show his death as being registered in Forbes, my newly found rellies are the Great Grand children of this chap, so far we haven't had any luck finding these places through The Dubbo Museum, Forbes Historical Society, Forbes Shire Council, Coonabaraban Council, B D M,Geographical names board of NSW and Australia, Lands Dept NSW,State Library NSW, Recordings NSW,Coolah Shire Council, Cowra Shire Council & Historical society,Lachlan Shire Council, National Library Canberra map room, I have recently written to the Land Newspaper in a letter to the editor. So far zero results. So you can see that the others have been really putting in time trying to find these places, where should we look next? How difficult id it to obtain Parrish maps? Some kind person sent me a Parrish Map of the Bourke area, unfortunately I had a computer crash and lost it. What would have been the Parrish that covered Forbes and The Lachlan? Hoping against hope that someone out there will know and be kind enough to help. Thank you, Susan Jeffery ex Bourkite living in Lismore where it is too humid to contemplate.

Hi Mary, I have benn looking at your website , and would like to compliment you on it, well done. Being an ex Broken Hillite, and having worked in the areas of Broken Hill, Wicannia , Menindee and Tibooburra , Wannaaring and Bourke. Of most interest to me is the gravesites of James and Sarah Larkin at Wilcannia , Bronk Hancock, Neil Hancock and Jessie Stanford (nee Hancock). Sarah and James are the Grandfather and Grandmother of My wife. Bronk, Neil, and Jessie are aunts and uncles of my wife. The George Smith buried at White Cliffs may be a Great uncle of my wife , who was the brother of Joshua Smith, the father in law of James (Bronk) Hancock and father of Helen Hancock (nee Smith). If you have photos of these grave sites , would it be possible to Email them to me . My web Site can be viewed by clicking on my URL below my Email address , and is searchable by using the surname or Descendants index page Regards and TIA, wsymonds@bigpond.net.au www.users.bigpond.com/bill_symo.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "mewilson" <mewilson@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:57 AM Subject: [NSW-W] My Homepage > Hi Listeners, > I have just put up the first entries to My Homepage on 'Western NSW History.' I will be continually adding to it. > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~mewilson > > Mary in Broken Hill > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > The List-admin for this list can be contacted by e-mailing > AUS-NSW-WEST-admin@rootsweb.com >

Hi Listeners, I have just put up the first entries to My Homepage on 'Western NSW History.' I will be continually adding to it. http://members.iinet.net.au/~mewilson Mary in Broken Hill

In this context 'stand' meant that the Father wanted to be able to pay his son's way until he, the son, found work, the extra pound would have helped immensely in being able to 'stand' him without either of them going short. It is also an expression used by a group of blokes going to the pub, they then decide to 'stand' a round of drinks each....means each bloke pays for a round of drinks for all the others in the group, he in turn gets a drink from each of the others in the group when their turn comes to 'stand' their rounds. Yes, it is also used as a term in shearing sheds the number of shearers employed is determined by the number of 'stands' of shearing equipment there is in the shed, could be one or it could be 20 depending on the size of the shed to be used! Hope that helps, Sincerely, S.JEFFERY ,----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen" <karens@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: [NSW-W] Terminology - whats a stand? > In our family research we have uncovered a letter written by my grandfather > to his son in Queensland. > My grandfather lived and worked on properties in and around Nyngan from 1892 > until 1930. > In the letter he mentions the need to "stand" one of his sons to get work. > Does anyone know what a stand was / is? > It sounds like some sort of surety? bond? or maybe to purchase gear to work? > The actual wording is........ > "Tomy is not doing anything at all, I have no money to stand him again, if I > could get one pound it would do to make another stand" > To put it into context - they had come from Nyngan to Sydney as there was > obviously no work in Nyngan for them. This was June 1930, the middle of the > depression and they had no money, the only person in the family working was > a 12 year old son who was earning a "few bob a day" In the letter they are > making plans for the older boys to make their way to Bendigo to look for > gold. It never happened, my grandfather died a few months after the letter > was written and Tomy was killed in a horse accident 6 months later. > Any thoughts? > > Many thanks > Karen > > ______________________________