Hi, me again I was asked where I found the book. Heard the author interviewed on Macca's program on Sunday morning a couple of months back. If you want to buy the book, it is $43.00, and it is very big - large format and 448 pages. Send your order to Mr R Condon 20 Quest Avenue YOWIE BAY 2228 Dick's phone no is 9524 3618 The book is an "abridged" version of his research. He also has unabridged sections, and when I spoke to him he recommended "The History of Land Settlement in the Western Division of NSW" as being of further interest to me which he will copy and sent in a binder to you for $30.00. You may prefer to just buy that. I think I will buy that next, but I want to try and take in the one I have already first. All of this work is of course a huge labour of love by someone with an extensive knowledge and love of the West. Best wishes to all Jill Jill

Hi to those people who asked me about particular people and places in "out of the West". Unfortunately there is no index. However, I have noted down your interests and as I am highlighting the names of people and properties when I come across them, if I find yours I will let you know. In the meantime there is a great list of references in the book. Many of them should be available at local libraries through inter library loan. Tony, have you come across the following: Thompson, Elaine (ed) (1993) "Brewarrina Bric-aBrac", Brewarrina and District Historical Society. Ross Allan (ed)(1982) "Outback Heritage - Bygone Years", Brewarrina Historical Society. Also generally the following sound interesting: Brodribb, WA (1883) Recollections of an Australian Squatter Hardy Bobbie, (1969) West of the Darling Barnard alan, (1962), The Simple Fleece Lans Rob, Smith Thelma, Smith Bob, the history of Pooncarie and District Shaw, Mary Turner (1987) Yancannia Creek That's all for now. Cheers Jill

Jill, This book sounds very interesting. If something were to come up about "The Overflow" ststion right from beginning to end I would be very interested. Also I think The Overflow were also known as the Wicklow blocks. Where did you find the book. Maybe worth having for me? Regards Elaine Nelson & Livingstone wrote: > List members may be interested in a book I have recently purchased - "Out of the West" by Dick Condon. The book is an historical perspective of the Western Division, which Dick is uniquely placed to give as a former Western Lands Commissioner. > > I'm not going to try to review the book, it is far too detailed and I have only dipped into it so far. It is divided into 3 parts, 1. to 1900; 2. 1901-1945; 3. 1946-1990. > > It has info about: > a.. soils, landform, vegetation > b.. Aborigines > c.. explorers, squatters > d.. legislation to control land settlement; 1901 Royal Commission and Western Lands Act > e.. early pastoral industry etc etc. > It's not so much about people, so is not really useful in terms of lookups, but from time to time I will email bits which might be of interest to the list, about conditions in the West and so on. > > In the meantime, how is everyone? The list has been very quiet lately. Are you all still there? > > Jill > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > This list is set that so, by default, replies to messages go to the whole list. Please feel free to send replies to the list where you think they would be of interest to the whole list, but if it is only personal chat back and forth, please send messages just between the parties involved.

List members may be interested in a book I have recently purchased - "Out of the West" by Dick Condon. The book is an historical perspective of the Western Division, which Dick is uniquely placed to give as a former Western Lands Commissioner. I'm not going to try to review the book, it is far too detailed and I have only dipped into it so far. It is divided into 3 parts, 1. to 1900; 2. 1901-1945; 3. 1946-1990. It has info about: a.. soils, landform, vegetation b.. Aborigines c.. explorers, squatters d.. legislation to control land settlement; 1901 Royal Commission and Western Lands Act e.. early pastoral industry etc etc. It's not so much about people, so is not really useful in terms of lookups, but from time to time I will email bits which might be of interest to the list, about conditions in the West and so on. In the meantime, how is everyone? The list has been very quiet lately. Are you all still there? Jill

Hi Dawn, Mount Isa F.H.S address is PO Box 1832, Mount Isa, QLD 4825. Hope this helps Julie Roberts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Geddes" <dawngeddes@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:31 PM Subject: [NSW-W] Mt. Isa - Orphanages > Hi list, does this list cover Mt. Isa? or any clues where I should go to? > > Thanks > > Dawn Geddes, Sydney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AUS-NSW-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:00 PM > Subject: AUS-NSW-WEST-D Digest V04 #36 > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > This list is set that so, by default, replies to messages go to the whole list. Please feel free to send replies to the list where you think they would be of interest to the whole list, but if it is only personal chat back and forth, please send messages just between the parties involved. > >

Hi Bill, James Larkin wa the licensee of the Bunker Hotel 1910-1917. The hotel was on Tarella Station, 23 km from White Cliffs. It was wood & iron with a dirt floor-small with three bedrooms. It opened in 1880.The hotel was flooded in the 1898 flood. It closed in the 1920's. James Larkin & his wife have a headstone in the Wilcannia Cemetery. Edward F Larkin is listed as being the licensee of the Victoria Hotel , Mena Murtee 1919-1921. This hotel was also flooded in 1898. Best wishes Mary Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "W Symonds" <wsymonds@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:06 PM Subject: [NSW-W] Re: [AUS-IRISH] Reunion > My Wifes' g gfather , Jame Larkin , Arrived in Australia about 1872 , and > may have landed at Maryborough on the Polmaise on its final Journey before > sinking on the Great Barrier Reef. > He came alone and it is not known if any of his Siblings followed , or if > he even had any . We do know that he came from Kilkenny and was born about > 1846. > He did well for himself in Australia , arriving with nothing, He became a > publican owning the Bunker Hotel near White Cliffs Which was burnt down and > was the last licencee of the Victoria Hotel between Wilcannia and White > Cliffs. The Victoria Hotel was also the homestead of a pastoral lease , > Which passed on to his sons when he died, he died in Broken Hill and was > buried in Wilcannia in 1938. > Could you pass this note on to any Larkins that may turn up at your reunion > , because although he raised a family , he never spoke of his Childhood, and > it is likely that he had siblings that may have followed him here, or > remained in Ireland. > It is believed that his parents may have been victims of the Potato famine , > because they are shown as farmers on his marriage certificate and death > certificate. > TIA > wsymonds@bigpond.net.au > www.users.bigpond.com/bill_symo.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Josefski" <josefski@serv.net.au> > To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:14 PM > Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Reunion > > > > There is to be a get-together for the descendants of Michael Byrne and > Annie Walsh who migrated from Johnswell area of Kilkenny in 1873 on the > Great Queensland and settled on the Downs near Leyburn. > > Surnames in the first and second generations include:- > > Hally, > > Ryan, > > Bange, > > Miller, > > Larkin, > > Crawford, > > Wells, > > Richards. > > > > Date: 28 March 2004. > > Place: Groom Park Hall, Cnr. Neil & Lawrence St., Toowoomba. > > Time: 10:00 a.m. to 04:00 p.m. BYO food, photos, stories. > > > > Further info from Anne Josefski, phone 5429 6339 or Vince Miller 5429 > 2304. > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a > cemetery search with a shovel > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > This list is set that so, by default, replies to messages go to the whole list. Please feel free to send replies to the list where you think they would be of interest to the whole list, but if it is only personal chat back and forth, please send messages just between the parties involved. > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "W Symonds" <wsymonds@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Reunion > My Wifes' g gfather , Jame Larkin , Arrived in Australia about 1872 , and > may have landed at Maryborough on the Polmaise on its final Journey before > sinking on the Great Barrier Reef. > He came alone and it is not known if any of his Siblings followed , or if > he even had any . We do know that he came from Kilkenny and was born about > 1846. > He did well for himself in Australia , arriving with nothing, He became a > publican owning the Bunker Hotel near White Cliffs Which was burnt down and > was the last licencee of the Victoria Hotel between Wilcannia and White > Cliffs. The Victoria Hotel was also the homestead of a pastoral lease , > Which passed on to his sons when he died, he died in Broken Hill and was > buried in Wilcannia in 1938. > Could you pass this note on to any Larkins that may turn up at your reunion > , because although he raised a family , he never spoke of his Childhood, and > it is likely that he had siblings that may have followed him here, or > remained in Ireland. > It is believed that his parents may have been victims of the Potato famine , > because they are shown as farmers on his marriage certificate and death > certificate. > TIA > wsymonds@bigpond.net.au > www.users.bigpond.com/bill_symo.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Josefski" <josefski@serv.net.au> > To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:14 PM > Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Reunion > > > > There is to be a get-together for the descendants of Michael Byrne and > Annie Walsh who migrated from Johnswell area of Kilkenny in 1873 on the > Great Queensland and settled on the Downs near Leyburn. > > Surnames in the first and second generations include:- > > Hally, > > Ryan, > > Bange, > > Miller, > > Larkin, > > Crawford, > > Wells, > > Richards. > > > > Date: 28 March 2004. > > Place: Groom Park Hall, Cnr. Neil & Lawrence St., Toowoomba. > > Time: 10:00 a.m. to 04:00 p.m. BYO food, photos, stories. > > > > Further info from Anne Josefski, phone 5429 6339 or Vince Miller 5429 > 2304. > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a > cemetery search with a shovel > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

My Wifes' g gfather , Jame Larkin , Arrived in Australia about 1872 , and may have landed at Maryborough on the Polmaise on its final Journey before sinking on the Great Barrier Reef. He came alone and it is not known if any of his Siblings followed , or if he even had any . We do know that he came from Kilkenny and was born about 1846. He did well for himself in Australia , arriving with nothing, He became a publican owning the Bunker Hotel near White Cliffs Which was burnt down and was the last licencee of the Victoria Hotel between Wilcannia and White Cliffs. The Victoria Hotel was also the homestead of a pastoral lease , Which passed on to his sons when he died, he died in Broken Hill and was buried in Wilcannia in 1938. Could you pass this note on to any Larkins that may turn up at your reunion , because although he raised a family , he never spoke of his Childhood, and it is likely that he had siblings that may have followed him here, or remained in Ireland. It is believed that his parents may have been victims of the Potato famine , because they are shown as farmers on his marriage certificate and death certificate. TIA wsymonds@bigpond.net.au www.users.bigpond.com/bill_symo.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Josefski" <josefski@serv.net.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Reunion > There is to be a get-together for the descendants of Michael Byrne and Annie Walsh who migrated from Johnswell area of Kilkenny in 1873 on the Great Queensland and settled on the Downs near Leyburn. > Surnames in the first and second generations include:- > Hally, > Ryan, > Bange, > Miller, > Larkin, > Crawford, > Wells, > Richards. > > Date: 28 March 2004. > Place: Groom Park Hall, Cnr. Neil & Lawrence St., Toowoomba. > Time: 10:00 a.m. to 04:00 p.m. BYO food, photos, stories. > > Further info from Anne Josefski, phone 5429 6339 or Vince Miller 5429 2304. > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a cemetery search with a shovel > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Does the surname Waugh from the Nyngan / Warren area mean anything to anyone? I was putting away some old notes on the weekend when I stumbled on some that I made relating to an uncle who died in Warren in 1930. Along side his DOB and DOD I have written the note "worked for Waugh". Problem is that I have no idea who Waugh is or where I would have gotten that information. All we know about this Uncle is that he died in Warren, in December 1930, 4 months after his fathers death in Sydney. He was thrown by a horse (or so the family have been told) but no one in the family has any idea of what he was doing in Warren or why (there are a few theories but nothing with any fact). I have been fumbling around with our family tree for 15 years or so, but started with my mothers family. I am guessing I made this note while in the State Library, 15 years ago. While we were waiting for things to come from the stack (the days before everything was on microfilm) we would often browse around other family names. I just have no idea where I would have gotten any information though. It was an accidental death, no inquest or anything and he was very young. We used to read the old Nyngan papers, but don't remember ever coming across anything relating to this brother. A lesson learnt to reference the sources of all information even in notes - but in the meantime I am left with a big question mark. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas......... PS after many years of trying to find an uncle who was last seen in 1939, I can happily say he is found and its a great feeling. He changed his name to join up in WW2 and lived the rest of his life under that assumed name, making finding him very very difficult. Thank goodness for computers and the ready access of information these days. I only wish we had had all of this 30 years ago - he need never have died alone. I have not lost my mind - it's backed up on disk somewhere. -- Unknown Keep Looking For Rainbows!! _--_|\ /Karen \ \ _.--._ / v Karen, Mum to Alex (8 years, T-18 Mosaic) http://members.optushome.com.au/karens Karen

Thanks to every one who replied to my query re. Warren Downs Regards Elaine

Hello everyone, I'm new to the list, so here are my interests: SHUGG - Red Cliffs (Vic), Mildura (Vic), Wentworth, Gol Gol, Tapio Station, Popiltah, Milkengay, Acacia Dam (near Silverton) Edward SHUGG was a stone mason & boundary rider. CORBETT - Geelong (Vic), Creswick (Vic), Wentworth, Tapio Station, Broken Hill (news agent in Beryl St. 1880-90's) John CORBETT was a mounted police trooper, then a rabbiter on Tapio. Grandmother Nettie SHUGG was born at Acacia Dam/Siding Hotel 1891. Resided at Tapio as a young girl. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jenny Fiume (Guys Hill, Victoria) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hi list, does this list cover Mt. Isa? or any clues where I should go to? Thanks Dawn Geddes, Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-NSW-WEST-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: AUS-NSW-WEST-D Digest V04 #36

Warren Downs is north of the town of Warren , towards Walgett. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Elaine Rogers" <erogers@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: [NSW-W] Warren Downs > Dear Listers, I have come across a Charles Read in the NSW probate index > as having died 12-6-1921 .residence is "Warren Downs" Caruda. Is anyone > able to tell me where this place may be or where to look. Most of my > bookmarks I have lost so have to start again . Would appreciate any help > at all. Regards Elaine > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > To search posts to the list, even back to 1999, go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and, when asked, enter the list name as AUS-NSW-WEST >

Dear Elaine. Your first port of call for NSW places is "Land and Property Information" http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au You will find the Historic Town, Parish, County and Pastoral map database from the above at: http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/maps/pmap/search/pmap_websearch.display When you put in ....... Warren .... You are given 8 choices, one of which is "Warren Downs" There are then historic maps from 1885 (two), 1893 and 1923 1885 was the year when the first Land Courts were held. The winners of the ballot became known as "Selectors". I have just finished reading "On our Selection" by Steel Rudd (A collection of the published stories about 'Dad & Dave) which gives a great insight into what life was like back in that era. Cheers for now, Tony Moore @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan & Elaine Rogers <erogers@powerup.com.au> Date: Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:50 pm Subject: [NSW-W] Warren Downs > Dear Listers, I have come across a Charles Read in the NSW probate > indexas having died 12-6-1921 .residence is "Warren Downs" Caruda. > Is anyone > able to tell me where this place may be or where to look. Most of my > bookmarks I have lost so have to start again . Would appreciate > any help > at all. Regards Elaine > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > To search posts to the list, even back to 1999, go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and, when asked, enter the list name as AUS-NSW-WEST > >

Dear Listers, I have come across a Charles Read in the NSW probate index as having died 12-6-1921 .residence is "Warren Downs" Caruda. Is anyone able to tell me where this place may be or where to look. Most of my bookmarks I have lost so have to start again . Would appreciate any help at all. Regards Elaine

G'Day Darren, When I saw *haha* in your message I thought I had a virus. There was a *haha* Virus going around a few months ago.So you may have given a few people a fright. Darren what I am writing about is. Do you know anyone in the Broken Hill or Menindee area connected with the STAPLEY family? Arthur Stapley and his wife Isabella are both buried in Broken Hill and their son Henry is buried in Menindee. I am trying to find descendants. Marie gumtrees2@iprimus.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Flowers" <flowersgen@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: [NSW-W] New subscriber > Hello list, > New subscriber saying hi. > Born and bred in "The Hill" moved to Lismore in 1999. > Still ahve family, friends and acqwuaintances in Broken Hill. > Thought maybe I could be of some help (dunno how though *haha*) to some who have Broken Hill links. > Bye for now, > > Darren M Flowers > Lismore NSW > Australia > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > If you know any good Western NSW webpages for addition to our links page, please e-mail the admin at > AUS-NSW-WEST-admin@rootsweb.com >

Hello list, New subscriber saying hi. Born and bred in "The Hill" moved to Lismore in 1999. Still ahve family, friends and acqwuaintances in Broken Hill. Thought maybe I could be of some help (dunno how though *haha*) to some who have Broken Hill links. Bye for now, Darren M Flowers Lismore NSW Australia

The NSW State Library's PICMAN has a wonderful photo of Don BURNS handling 14 horses to clear land on "Rutherglen" - Nyngan. (At Work and Play - 03539). Now MY Daniel BYRNES jun. was known as Don (born 1870). He was in the general - very general - vicinity at the time. The photo is of a tall man, and all the male BYRNES were tall strapping figures. However, if I am to claim him as mine simply on the basis of his stature, then I should mention that the BYRNES' women were petite, with waists that could be spanned by two hands. In this statement I stress the past tense. So things change; and generalisations should not be used to try to claim kinship. Does anyone know anything about the Don BURNS who appears in the Rutherglen photo? Regards ..............Rusheen.

Thanks Linda,I'll give it a try Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Barraclough <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [NSW-W] FURPHY-LEWIS > Hi Everyone, > > I have answered Suzanne offlist > > Linda > > At 09:51 PM 13/03/04 +0000, you wrote: > >Hello Everyone,i have just joined the list and hope i am on the right one. > ><snip> > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > If you know any good Western NSW webpages for addition to our links page, please e-mail the admin at > AUS-NSW-WEST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hello Everyone,i have just joined the list and hope i am on the right one.I am tracing my FURPHY line and believe that JAMES[OR JOHN] FURPHY left PORTADOWN in Ireland when he joined the british army and moved to Clydebank in Scotland.He had a daughter Kathleen who married Bill Lewis and they had a son William and we think they lived in PERTH around 1954.We think it is Perth Australia not Scotland.Any hint of recognition would be gratefully rec'd and also could you let me know if i am on the right list ,Thanks Suzanne Newport Gwent UK