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    1. RE: FENN, WELLS, HOGG.
    2. Brett & Sue
    3. Hi Carol, Thankyou, The George Wells you looked up is my Great, Great Grandfather. Is there a Margaret KELLY born 1859 in Victoria? Henry BOOTH's wife was either Bridget or Margaret KELLY, could be spelt Kellie. She was born in Victoria in 1859. Some of the names you looked up do look familar. Yes Crawford Parrington is a relative, I received some info about Crawford Parrington from my cousin. My Great Grandmother Beatrice LITTLEY Born Yankalilla South Australia on 5th April 1878 had a daughter she called May PARRINGTON. Could you please look up May she was born about 1892. I do not know who Beatrice's partner was when she had May. I am not sure of her birthplace. May PARRINGTON married Steve COLLINS they had 6 Children. I do not know the year they were married or where they were married. Beatrice's parents were: ? Florence/Francis DEALY and John LITTLEY. Thankyou. From Sue Coleman.

    11/03/2004 10:22:44
    1. horse racing
    2. Julie Roberts
    3. Thanks for your replies.My Grandfather was a amateur jockey his name was William Charles Hopley, also called Charles and known as Pop Hopley also. I have two photos of him on a horse with a man standing in front. One says Uncle Jack which I believe is Jack Weldon. The other says Mr J Ryans horse and Mr Ryan. They are taken at old stables with a big brick wall in the background, which I've been told the stables were behind a pub in Bourke. I can't remember the name but the building is there. I'm guessing dates around 1915 to 1930. He also lived in Menindee and died in Broken Hill. I'm looking for different places he may have raced and I'm also looking for his father, my Gr Grandfather, I thought if I branched off with info that I already have, I may come up with something. My Grandfather was born in Bourke 1900 as W C Bowden but grew up as Hopley.His mother was Lavinia Bowden who also had 8 other children before, also Bowdens grew up as Hopley. There is no marriage cert, on a couple of cert I have Walter Thomas Hopley is the father but he is a mystery, no birth, death ,marriage. Thank you Julie

    10/28/2004 08:25:11
    1. Re: [NSW-W] horse racing
    2. Nelson & Livingstone
    3. Hi Julie Depends what period you are looking for, but there would be a few leads around Bourke: The History of Bourke in 13 volumes has a chapter on Sport which includes some information on horse racing. The library at Bourke - Ann McLachlan is very helpful and they should have folders on horse racing. There was also a Bourke Turf Club (or similar name) my relatives were patrons for many years. Again the Library should be able to help you out. If you have a specific name I would be happy to check what records I have. You might be interested in the following extract from "100 Lives of Bourke" "Born in 1859, George Alfred Wall came to Bourke as a 13 year old to ride horses for Mr Wormoll. After this early racing career he had an interesting and varied life as a drover and later as licensee of a number of hotels...... George continued his interest in racing all his life and was a founding member of the North Bourke Amateur Racing Club. Here, and at other courses he took an active part in the racing as handicapper, judge, starter and clerk of the course". Julie, I would be most interested to hear the results of your research as my research interests - Warmoll, Moxham and McCaughey were all part of the racing fraternity.

    10/28/2004 02:47:31
    1. Re: [NSW-W] horse racing
    2. Brett & Sue
    3. Hi Julie was just wondering if you were looking for any particular jockey, having attended a few local race meetings Louth, Brewarrina and so on and knowing one or two jockeys i can make an inquiry about your question. Regards Brett ----- Original Message ----- From: "elshie" <elshie@eircom.net> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [NSW-W] horse racing > Hi Julie, > > Having attended outback race meetings I understood that the jockeys - or, > at least, most of them - were amateurs, and often came with the horse if > the horse came from further afield. What about old newspapers, or the > local racing clubs, perhaps they have some details. > Good Luck, > > Elaine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie Roberts" <robertsjk@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:15 AM > Subject: [NSW-W] horse racing > > >> Hi,can anyone tell me were I could find info >> on jockeys that raced around Bourke, Menindee >> all those country areas. >> Tried racing hall of fame but that seems to cover city races. >> thanks Julie >> >> >> ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== >> The Home Page for this List is at >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ >> >> > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve > months, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-WEST/ >

    10/27/2004 04:53:39
    1. Re: [NSW-W] horse racing
    2. elshie
    3. Hi Julie, Having attended outback race meetings I understood that the jockeys - or, at least, most of them - were amateurs, and often came with the horse if the horse came from further afield. What about old newspapers, or the local racing clubs, perhaps they have some details. Good Luck, Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Roberts" <robertsjk@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:15 AM Subject: [NSW-W] horse racing > Hi,can anyone tell me were I could find info > on jockeys that raced around Bourke, Menindee > all those country areas. > Tried racing hall of fame but that seems to cover city races. > thanks Julie > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > The Home Page for this List is at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ > >

    10/27/2004 04:51:39
    1. horse racing
    2. Julie Roberts
    3. Hi,can anyone tell me were I could find info on jockeys that raced around Bourke, Menindee all those country areas. Tried racing hall of fame but that seems to cover city races. thanks Julie

    10/27/2004 03:15:34
    1. Re: [NSW-W] EICHLER - Broken Hill - New Subscriber
    2. Bill Symonds
    3. There is still a V Eichler in Broken Hill The address is\ 15 Long St Broken Hill 2880 Phone number is 08 8087 5489 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqui Lever" <jacqui@sjlever.freeserve.co.uk> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:17 AM Subject: [NSW-W] EICHLER - Broken Hill - New Subscriber > I'm not new to mailing lists but am new to Australian genealogy - most of > my efforts so far have been in Norfolk, England. > > I am looking for any contacts or information on EICHLER known to have been > in Broken Hill from roughly 1915 to at least 1941 and beyond. > > What I have so far is Frederick Charles W EICHLER married my gt aunt Ethel > MATCHETT (or MATTCHETTE) in Broken Hill in 1919 and he died in 1941. His > parents I beleive were William Henry EICHLER and Sarah Ann. > > They had 2 children Lulu bn early 1920's and Althea bn 1928? and possibly > owned / managed a fruit farm. There last known address was on Brazil > Street in Broken Hill. > > Jacqui > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go to > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to Surnames > for further details. >

    10/20/2004 02:17:52
    1. Re: [NSW-W] EICHLER - Broken Hill - New Subscriber
    2. Jacqui Lever
    3. Thank-you Bill I will have to put pen to paper and have a long wait! Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Symonds" <billsymo@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [NSW-W] EICHLER - Broken Hill - New Subscriber > There is still a V Eichler in Broken Hill > The address is\ > 15 Long St > Broken Hill 2880 > > Phone number is 08 8087 5489 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jacqui Lever" <jacqui@sjlever.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:17 AM > Subject: [NSW-W] EICHLER - Broken Hill - New Subscriber > > >> I'm not new to mailing lists but am new to Australian genealogy - most of >> my efforts so far have been in Norfolk, England. >> >> I am looking for any contacts or information on EICHLER known to have >> been in Broken Hill from roughly 1915 to at least 1941 and beyond. >> >> What I have so far is Frederick Charles W EICHLER married my gt aunt >> Ethel MATCHETT (or MATTCHETTE) in Broken Hill in 1919 and he died in >> 1941. His parents I beleive were William Henry EICHLER and Sarah Ann. >> >> They had 2 children Lulu bn early 1920's and Althea bn 1928? and possibly >> owned / managed a fruit farm. There last known address was on Brazil >> Street in Broken Hill. >> >> Jacqui >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== >> Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go to >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to Surnames >> for further details. >> > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > This list is set that so, by default, replies to messages go to the whole > list. Please feel free to send replies to the list where you think they > would be of interest to the whole list, but if it is only personal chat > back and forth, please send messages just between the parties involved. >

    10/20/2004 02:16:35
    1. EICHLER - Broken Hill - New Subscriber
    2. Jacqui Lever
    3. I'm not new to mailing lists but am new to Australian genealogy - most of my efforts so far have been in Norfolk, England. I am looking for any contacts or information on EICHLER known to have been in Broken Hill from roughly 1915 to at least 1941 and beyond. What I have so far is Frederick Charles W EICHLER married my gt aunt Ethel MATCHETT (or MATTCHETTE) in Broken Hill in 1919 and he died in 1941. His parents I beleive were William Henry EICHLER and Sarah Ann. They had 2 children Lulu bn early 1920's and Althea bn 1928? and possibly owned / managed a fruit farm. There last known address was on Brazil Street in Broken Hill. Jacqui

    10/19/2004 02:47:16
    1. Identity of tattooed man.
    2. Rusheen Craig
    3. I just had to ask if anyone has ever established the identity of the man who died in Pooncarie in 1889. He was about 45 years of age and had tattooed on his feet: "LOVE" and "M.Z." There was no evidence to show at the Coroner's inquest into his death. He left no assets. Has anyone since found out who he was??? Rusheen.

    10/17/2004 03:14:37
    1. T Ralph of Gilgandra
    2. Karen
    3. Sorry that this is such short notice but I was browsing around E-BAy when I came across a Silver Teapot that apparently is inscribed as being presented to T. Ralph of Gilgandra for services as SS Superintendent. It finishes in a few hours but thought I would post in case there is a relative of T Ralph on the list and they were interested in trying to get this piece of history. Karen

    10/17/2004 03:53:40
    1. Back To Nyngan - The Water and Light Service
    2. Karen
    3. THE WATER AND LIGHT SERVICE The service which supplies Nyngan with water and light is provided by the Muncipial Council and is thoroughly modern and efficient. Water was first supplied to the town on a communal system, about 1895, at a cost of £9000. A steam plant was supplied by the firm of R. T. Ball (now Minister for Lands in the Bavin Govern­ment) and the necessary pumps were established on the banks of the Bogan River, and for very many years, from this point, the town received an adequate supply. In time, however, the town grew beyond the capacity of the steam plant. More water reticula­tion was wanted and there was a general demand for electric light. Early in the Mayoralty of Mr.H. Evatt the problem was attacked. The Bogan River water is an uncertain quantity, and Mr. Evatt, with his eye on what has been done in adjoining towns, hoped that artesian water might be available. A bore was put down in the park to a depth of 508 feet, but no water was found. Nyngan, unfortunately, is just outside of the artesian basin. Only 30 miles away there are flow­ing bores. So Nyngan had to pin its faith to the Bogan River, and the new supply system was designed ac­cordingly. Motors (two-each of 51 h.p.) run­ning on crude oil were established in a plain build­ing behind the Town Hall. The electric current which they generate lights the town and also drives the centrifugal pumps two miles away, down on the river bank, where one pump will lift 9500 gal­lons per hour and another 5500 gallons per hour. The pressure from the pump is conveyed straight into the mains, where there is a pressure of 60 pounds. All water not required to keep up that pressure, that is, the overflow, after consumers' needs have been met, goes into the reservoir tanks. The new system of supplying water and electricity came into operation in August, 1926. The old steam engines are still in position on the river bank, ready for use in an emergency. The Nyngan Council, back in 1903, tried to light the town by acetylene gas, and a plant was installed. The service was not a success and was soon discon­tinued.

    10/14/2004 01:18:20
    1. Back to Nyngan Excerpts
    2. Karen
    3. I apologise in advance for any problems with the formatting of these pieces. They dont always transfer neatly from my word processor into plain text and I cant see the problem until they come through the list, even though I send them in plain text - sorry.

    10/14/2004 01:18:08
    1. Back to Nyngan Book - P13 The Municipality of Nyngan
    2. Karen
    3. Municipality of Nyngan The first council was elected on April 16, 1891, and the first meeting was held at Tattersall's Hotel on the 20th April, 1891. The first aldermen were W. S. Brown, John Prince, Henry Herrick, A. M. Naylor, A. T. Bleakley, G. F. Callan. The first Mayor was Alderman John Prince and the first town clerk was Mr. John Kelly. Nyngan was given a water supply in 1894, and a Town Hall was built in 1897. The population of the municipal area on April 26, 1892, was 1027. The electric light was switched on 28th June, 1926. The plant comprises two 25 k.w. generators driven by two 45/491/2 b.h.p. Vickers Petters Oil Engines. The present council comprises Aldermen H. Evatt, P.C. Knight, R. A. Giddy, C. O'Reilly, G. Foreman, H. L. Hopkins. The present Mayor is Alderman H. Evatt, and the town clerk is Mr. G. A. Priest. The Over Shot Dam was completed in July, 1928, at a cost of £5000, to augment the water supply. The construction work was carried away twice, owing to floods in the Bogan River. The flood on February 24th, 1928, was the highest on record.

    10/14/2004 12:56:04
    1. Re "Back to Nyngan"
    2. Hi Karen, Have been reading your story re the above and Canonbar and I note that my great grandparents WILLIAM ALFRED ARTLETT and MARIA McGARRITY were married at the Cuffs Hotel, Canonbar on the 30th March 1874. Unfortunately I have not been out west to visit any of these towns but how wonderful of you to write with information on these towns. I would be very grateful if you would not mind looking up a few names for me in case they are in the book. All their children were registered around the districts of Bourke ,Cobar, Wrightville and Nyngan. It would be wonderful if any one picks up these names and helps me with any family history. The names are ARTLETT, G.G.Grandmother McGARRITY, LINDSAY, STILL and SKINNER. I know my grandmother LUCY JANE ARTLETT born 20 August 1882 lost a couple of fingers when she was I believe a teenager. Her brothers brought home one of the small detonators used on the train track of which she poked with a bobby pin. It would be wonderful to be able to read about this story if it was printed in any of the newspapers those days. Believe she rode in a buggy form Nyngan to Cobar for medical treatment. Many Thanks for your help and interesting story. Jan McFarland Central Coast NSW.

    10/13/2004 04:07:43
    1. "BACK TO NYNGAN"
    2. Karen
    3. "BACK TO NYNGAN" Foreward from the “Back to Nyngan” Week, 24-29th September 1928 Memorial Magazine If only the history of Nyngan is to be written, the task is simple and easy. The Western Railway, being built out to Bourke, reached the Bogan River in 1883, and as it was thought that this would remain the terminus for some time, a township sprang up quickly. This was called Nyngan. It was a native name, and it had been applied to the district since very early times. In Well's Geographical Dictionary of 1848 there is the following line: NYENGEN.-In the district of Wellington, N.S.W., on the River Bogan. But if one is to give a fuller history of the district, one must go back a long way before 1883, and move out 16 miles to the north-east, to where there is to-day nothing but a few heaps of bricks. Here, from early in the forties until the middle 'eighties, there flourished the little town of Canonbar - or, as it was often spelled, Canonba. Canonbar was on the direct route to the far West. When the pioneers came out through the Blue Mountains, nearly one hundred years ago, and traversed these seemingly endless saltbush plains, they found a region well adapted to the raising of cattle and, a little later, sheep. The acquisition of vast stations, for use as grazing areas, followed with remarkable rapidity, and before the nineteenth century was half gone primitive homesteads, with numerous flocks and herds, were scattered far over the West, right out to the Darling, and beyond. To this generation of users of motor cars and aeroplanes, the means of communication then seemed incredibly slow. The railway was still a quarter of a century away. Stage coaches could convey mails and passengers at perhaps ten miles per hour, but household equipment and supplies came slowly and painfully from the coast by teams of toiling bullocks and horses. The people of the far West got supplies by two routes - the long, weary trek to the coast of New South Wales, or by steamer from Adelaide up the Darling. Few people of to-day know that Bourke was once a port of entry for goods from abroad. At Bourke there was a Customs House and Customs officers and bonded stores. Half a dozen paddle-wheel steamers have been seen at Bourke at one time. It is an absolute fact that there once occurred there, in the centre of Australia, a strike of wharf-labourers! Bourke was a distributing centre for the far West and part of the middle West. The road from Sydney to Bourke came along the upper reaches of the Macquarie and crossed the river where Warren is now. Then it followed Duck Creek to the rich and famous station of Canonbar: This was a favourite halting place for the teams and coaches and so, at a point near the homestead, on Duck Creek, there grew up a little town of hotelkeepers and tradesmen to serve the needs of travellers. For 30 years Canonbar grew and flourished, keeping pace with the back-blocks traffic of the developing colony. At this place, in the early 'eighties, there were about four hotels, three or four banks, various stores, and tradesmen, a police station, a telegraph and money-order office, and representatives of churches. To-day, except for a crumbling wall or two, there is little evidence that the place ever knew human occupation. The explanation is the Western Railway. It passed some 15 miles south of Canonbar, and where it crossed the Bogan it formed the township of Nyngan. To paraphrase a popular song, Nyngan stole Canonbar's heart away. For a little while Nyngan was the terminus of the Western Railway. All the horse-drawn traffic of the West naturally converged on that point. There was an extraordinary mushroom-like growth of hotels and stores on the banks of the Bogan. The road through Canonbar was no longer the beaten track between east and west. To put it in a sentence, Canonbar­ populace, goods and public institutions-moved to Nyngan. This was in 1883. A few people hung around the deserted village, but before the end of that decade Canonbar was practically empty. The different effect of railway competition upon Warren and Canonbar is remarkable. Both were pastoral centres and stopping places on the great coaching route. The railway passed 12 miles south of Warren and 15 miles south of Canonbar. Warren went on living and growing, and in time a branch railway was built in from the main line. But Canonbar simply crumpled up and most of its people were among the first residents of Warren. While it was the terminus of the Western Railway Nyngan flourished mightily. But very soon the line was built on to Bourke, and then many people lost faith in Nyngan, and there was a serious exodus of business folk and considerable depression. As a set-off to that, however, there was the development of Cobar, 80 miles away, and Nyngan was the starting-point for Cobar. For years - long before the branch railway was built out from Nyngan to Cobar in the 'nineties - the Cobar traffic passing through Nyngan was an important factor in the growth of the town's business and solidity. But Nyngan has reached its present condition - "one of the soundest towns in the west" - through no adventitious aids. It has become estab­lished, as it is to-day, through the natural wealth of the great district which surrounds it. The copper ore which made of Cobar once a flourishing city is no longer profitable to work and Cobar, compared with its former glory, is now faded and shrunken - almost a ghost town. Recent visitors say that Cobar is "picking up again," the result of the growth of the pastoral and dairying industries round about it-but the old Collar is utterly gone. But the passing of the Cobar mines and their huge traffic through Nyngan has not affected Nyngan perceptibly. It has pinned its faith to the pastoral industry and it has no fear for the future. Since it is no older than the railway which gave it being, and was a "nominated town," as distinct from the great majority of towns which just sprang up of their own free will beside some coach route or cattle track, Nyngan has been laid out to a careful plan. Its modern buildings, its neat tree-shaded streets, its excellent public services, the obvious comfort in which its 1500 people live, its pleasant climate and its faith in the future of these rich western plains-all these things give the casual visitor a feeling that here, when the West shall have come into its own, there lies a future metropolis. At present it takes 16 hours of continuous train travelling to reach the Coast at Sydney, but an aeroplane can make the journey in four hours. These western plains are so flat that an aeroplane can land almost anywhere with perfect safety. The natural aerodrome near Nyngan Railway Station is among the best in the State. Many Nyngan people have wireless receivers. They can sit in their homes on Saturday afternoons and hear all sports broadcast, or the latest news read out, from one to two days before the Sydney newspapers can reach them. When the aerial service is established - which must be soon­ a Nyngan man can leave for Sydney in the morning, put in two or three hours in the metropolis, and return home before dark. Aviation and wireless are going to mean big things for Nyngan and other towns of the interior.

    10/13/2004 02:03:22
    1. Nyngan Memorial Booklet 1928
    2. Karen
    3. I bought a book on Ebay recently relating to Nyngan. Its a "Back to Nyngan Week" Memorial Booklet from 24th to 29th September 1928. Fascinating reading for anyone who has an interest in Nyngan as it gives a really good account of the first families settling there in the 1850's, the history on Canonbar and such. Advertisments from local stores, lists of office bearers for the Masonic Lodge, local gun clubs and the like. There are also some good photos of the first council members, nurses at the hospital, schools and even the 1928 flood. The name on the front of the book is Mr W Simpson. I am going to scan the book and then donate it to the Nyngan Museum as they only have one very fragile copy behind glass. This copy seems to be in better condition so hopefully they will be able to use it and allow people access. I really only need good quality scans for my family research. If anyone would like to get a copy of the scan let me know and I will email them to you - the book has 36 pages in all it will be a largish download if you want the whole lot. I am also more than happy to see if families are mentioned. If I ever get time I will transcribe the text onto a web page (and so long as I am not breaching copyright). Karen

    10/13/2004 05:22:21
    1. Look up Fahey
    2. Jill White
    3. Hi everyone, I am probably in the wrong area of NSW but could sks look up if Ellen (nee Siber) and Richard Fahey had any children, they married in 1920 and it appears Ellen died in 1925. But they probably lived in Sydney. thanks very much Jill White Katherine NT --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.

    10/11/2004 10:33:17
    1. Re: [NSW-W]
    2. Bill Symonds
    3. According to The white pages there are still 4 Toohey and one Gatt Family in Broken Hill. I went to school with Don Toohey in Broken Hill in the 1940's and 1950's. There were several families of Tooheys there then. I suspect they would be related to your tooheys and Gatts. billsymo@bigpond.net.au www.users.bigpond.com/bill_symo.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meg CAIN" <megc@austarmetro.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:29 PM Subject: [NSW-W] >Hi all, > >Im reposting my name interests in the hope of some info > >GATT, CAIN, MAYNARD, TOOHEY > >The Gatt and Toohey families I have as residing around the Broken Hill area >(approx 1920s). There were four Gatt girls. All of which I understand, are >still alive. The father as far as I can gather worked in the mines. I >think he died around 1988. And i understand the mother died in the 1950s. > >The Cain and Maynard families come from down Wentworth/Mildura area and >still reside in that area. >Adam Cain (my grandfather) is spoken of by Maxine Withers in her book >"Bushmen of the Great Anabranch" and in fact a picture of my father is in >the book as being one of the first properties in the outback in that area to >have electricity installed. > >I would be appreciative of any help that anyone can give. > >Thanks >Meg

    10/08/2004 02:47:00
    1. Meg CAIN
    2. Hi all, Im reposting my name interests in the hope of some info GATT, CAIN, MAYNARD, TOOHEY The Gatt and Toohey families I have as residing around the Broken Hill area (approx 1920s). There were four Gatt girls. All of which I understand, are still alive. The father as far as I can gather worked in the mines. I think he died around 1988. And i understand the mother died in the 1950s. The Cain and Maynard families come from down Wentworth/Mildura area and still reside in that area. Adam Cain (my grandfather) is spoken of by Maxine Withers in her book "Bushmen of the Great Anabranch" and in fact a picture of my father is in the book as being one of the first properties in the outback in that area to have electricity installed. I would be appreciative of any help that anyone can give. Thanks Meg

    10/08/2004 01:59:02