Hello , I am looking for any information on THOMAS BYRNE married MAUD PATERSON Gunning 1908 thank you Suzanne suzyq4@bigpond.com

Hi List This is a reply to Ann's request re Oliver. I'm sending it to the whole list in case anyone else has an interest in the names or stations mentioned. Page 43, Hist of Bourke Vol 13: "OLIVER:Mrs F S Oliver was my Aunt and died last year [1996?] and was buried in the family cemetery at "Yeranbah" as you say she was a Wiggan and her brother Eric was a surveyor. Her brother Jack managed Wallumburra at Byrock after her husband Jack Oliver died. She then went to live at "Yeranbah". He was my father's brother. The Olivers around Bourke would be no relation. My Grandfather came out from Scotland and married Elizabeth Dowell. They settled at Kenilworth, Byrock. His partner diddled him and he went bankrupt and retired to Cremorne to live out the rest of his life. He had six children. I looked up the family Bible as under William Oliver (Scotland) B 1849 M Elizabeth Dowell (England) B 1865. Married St Johns Church Sydney Feb 23rd 1886. They had a large family of whom Jack Davidson Oliver was one of the youngest. He was wounded at the War and died at Bourke in 1935. He was born at Katoomba in 1891 and married Sylvia Wiggan in 1919. Their two daughters have both died. Jack was in the Light Horse Regiment AIF. My father managed Milroy at Brewarrina which was between the Culgoa and Birrie Rivers and moved to Angledool when the war ended (2nd World War). I remember going to Bourke many times with him as a child, particularly to the Anzac Day Service. If I can help in any other way let me know. Yours sincerely Joan McMicking" Letter 2: "My grandparents owned Kenilworth Station at Byrock and Uncle Jack Oliver owned Wallumburra at Byrock. My father Percy Dawell Oliver managed for the AML & F for 43 years at Mossgeil at Ivanhoe, Milson [Milroy?] at Brewarrina and Angledool Station at New Angledool. Marriott was one of my father's jackaroos at Milroy and so my connection with the Galway family. If you would require further information I would be pleased to assist. Yours sincerely Joan McMicking (Mrs) W M McMicking" Vol 13 was published in 1997. There are 3 McMickings in the Sydney phone book, maybe one of them is this Joan, or related to her. Good luck Jill

Hello Jill I don't know this person. Her brother now deceased married one of my BORTHWICK family. Is it a lot of work to transcribe the letters? If so I will wait until I can access the CD somewhere. If not I'd love to know what the letters are about as I am working on this branch at the moment. I am trying to include a bit about the history of each spouse family. (Since writing to the list I've realised that the family was also at Angledool Station, Brewarrina.) Many thanks Ann -----Original Message----- From: Nelson & Livingstone [mailto:panjil@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:03 AM To: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NSW-W] Advice please Hi Ann You wrote > > Does anyone on the list know anything about Milroy Station near Bourke, > apparently owned by Dalgety's, and/or about the managers of Milroy > Station? > > I have a Percy OLIVER who was there circa 1926-32. Would be grateful > for any leads. > The History of Bourke Vol 13 records two letters to the editor from a Joan McMicking who was the daughter of Percy Oliver. I won't transcribe them as you may know this person. if not, let me know and I will type out what they say. Jill ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== The Home Page for this List is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/

Hi Ann You wrote > > Does anyone on the list know anything about Milroy Station near Bourke, > apparently owned by Dalgety's, and/or about the managers of Milroy > Station? > > I have a Percy OLIVER who was there circa 1926-32. Would be grateful > for any leads. > The History of Bourke Vol 13 records two letters to the editor from a Joan McMicking who was the daughter of Percy Oliver. I won't transcribe them as you may know this person. if not, let me know and I will type out what they say. Jill

Does anyone on the list know anything about Milroy Station near Bourke, apparently owned by Dalgety's, and/or about the managers of Milroy Station? I have a Percy OLIVER who was there circa 1926-32. Would be grateful for any leads. Ann

Hi there Jill,tis Bernice here..Am finally getting around to sorting thru saved emails,what with moving house and christmas (now we have easter eggs in stores!)Was wondering if you could to a look-up in your little book for the names,"Hessler/Hefsler and Dunkley,(Sarah).I may have already asked you,tis called oldtimers desease.Have a nice day.Many thanks,Bernice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson & Livingstone" <panjil@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:09 PM Subject: [NSW-W] 100 Lives of Bourke- A cemetery interpretation book > Hi List > This beautiful little book has just been published. I am happy to do look ups for you, or you can purchase the book it is about $12 plus $5 postage from memory. It is available from Bourke Library, email Bourke Library <bourkeli@mail.lisp.com.au> > > For those, like me still waiting on the 14 vols of History of Bourke on cd rom, I have been told another month yet. It will be distributed by Back O Bouke Exhibition Centre, and will be around 40 or 50 dollars. I will let you know when I hear more. > > Best wishes > Jill > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > This list is set that so, by default, replies to messages go to the whole list. Please feel free to send replies to the list where you think they would be of interest to the whole list, but if it is only personal chat back and forth, please send messages just between the parties involved. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Hello again Rusheen I've just realised that William Rogers may have been a relative of Henry Geyer. Henry Geyer's wife was a Margaret Rogers. I haven't checked but Henry and Margaret were probably married in the 1880s. Regards ann -----Original Message----- From: Rusheen Craig [mailto:recraig@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2003 3:03 PM To: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NSW-W] Hotels 1865-1900. Thank you Ann. Good to see that the message, that has been hidden in the bowels of Rootsweb for over a month, should surface and get a result. I can't find a reference for Colbran as a publican - but this would be because Molong is in the Central Region which I only covered for 6 years. However your Henry Geyer did have the Old Tintinallogy Hotel from 1888 to at least 1900.There are also Rogers associated with the hotel - William Rogers 1868 to 1875; Elizabeth Rogers 1879. In the intervening years 1876-1878 the publican was George Kidman - ? brother of the famous Sidney Kidman, the Cattle King. Regards ................Rusheen. > From: "Ann Carson" <amcarson500@optusnet.com.au> > Reply-To: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:46:22 +1100 > To: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [NSW-W] Hotels 1865-1900. > Resent-From: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:31 -0700 > > Don't know whether these will be of any help Rusheen but here are a few > bits and pieces: > > Source: > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=col > bran&id=I2019 > ID: I2019 > Name: John COLBRAN > Sex: M > Birth: 6 Jul 1857 in North Richmond, NSW, Australia > Death: 13 Sep 1913 in Molong Hospital, NSW, Australia > Burial: 14 Sep 1913 Roman Catholic, Molong, NSW, Australia > Occupation: Hotel Keeper > > > Thomas Adam Borthwick married Lily Maud Geyer on Apr 12, 1906 at > Menindee, NSW. His in-laws, Henry Frederick Christian Geyer and > Margaret Rogers, were said to be hoteliers at Old Tintinallogy on the > Darling River. Thomas and Lily's first two children were born at > Tintinallogy, the next two at Wilcannia, and the remainder in NZ > (Lawrence, Otago; Patea, Taranaki; Okahukura, King Country; Taumarunui, > King Country; Ohura, King Country). Some of Thomas' descendants are > living in Australia. Unfortunately I don't have any other information > about Lily's family. > > Regards > > Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) > amcarson500@optusnet.com.au > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > My website, including data for the BORTHWICK worldwide One Name Study > (GoONS 3727) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== Neighbouring Lists at Rootsweb are: AUS-NSW-PILLIGA, NSW-ORANGEBATHURST and AUS-NSW-MANNING-VALLEY

Hi Everyone, Well - this one has finally resurfaced from Rootsweb - who had a little hissy fit! If you are confused it is because this one was sent and lost, and then Rusheen sent another, in which she, lovely person, did not do her tongue in cheek sideways look at me. :) Linda At 07:18 PM 6/01/04 +1100, you wrote: >Don't know if the List Admin will permit what is NOT MY QUESTION - she can >be tough. This is for a friend, a close friend - my husband, whose family I >had safely tucked away as sea-related folk at Balmain, Sydney. <snip>

History of Bourke Vol XII has a new railway being built from Cobar to Wrightville in April 1901. When I typed Wrightville into the Google Search engine I got some interesting hits, including the War memorial. This listed a 'Belcher" and a Gill. Could these belong to those people seeking Beecher and McGill. Just a thought. It was a municipality, at one time. Jill http://www.skp.com.au/memorials/pages/20061.htm

Hello Rondo Wrightville was located not far from Cobar. I have rellies by the name of BEECHER who lived in the area between 1907 and 1917. I do not have any information about the locality and would be interested in any additionally information. Hans Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Aloha * [mailto:sweetleilani16@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2004 7:23 AM To: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NSW-W] Wrightville/McGill/Gould Hi folks, After years of leaving it in the 'too hard' basket I am trying to track down any information about a place called Wrightville, in the Cobar area. I see from the BDM indexes that there was a family called Wright in the area - I assume they owned this property. My grandmother was born Olive Violet Branch GOULD in 1903 at Wrightville, her mother was Edith Gould - father's name not given. When she married in 1919 to Mervyn MAHON of Bobadah, she gave her father's name as Charles Brown McGILL. Any thoughts, leads, contacts or information on the area or people named would be most appreciated. Thanks, Rondo _________________________________________________________________ Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a Motorola E365. Go to: http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp ______________________________

Hi All, Recall some time back someone chasing Sylvester's of Balranald. If that person has a Sophia Maria I may be able to add some additional cousins. Regards Tom Hickey

Hi folks, After years of leaving it in the 'too hard' basket I am trying to track down any information about a place called Wrightville, in the Cobar area. I see from the BDM indexes that there was a family called Wright in the area - I assume they owned this property. My grandmother was born Olive Violet Branch GOULD in 1903 at Wrightville, her mother was Edith Gould - father's name not given. When she married in 1919 to Mervyn MAHON of Bobadah, she gave her father's name as Charles Brown McGILL. Any thoughts, leads, contacts or information on the area or people named would be most appreciated. Thanks, Rondo _________________________________________________________________ Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a Motorola E365. Go to: http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp

Maybe Wrightville is a property, ??Nymagee area. Bobadah is only 30 miles east of Nymagee.Regards Elaine Aloha * wrote: > Hi folks, > After years of leaving it in the 'too hard' basket I am trying to track down > any information about a place called Wrightville, in the Cobar area. I see > from the BDM indexes that there was a family called Wright in the area - I > assume they owned this property. > My grandmother was born Olive Violet Branch GOULD in 1903 at Wrightville, > her mother was Edith Gould - father's name not given. When she married in > 1919 to Mervyn MAHON of Bobadah, she gave her father's name as Charles Brown > McGILL. > Any thoughts, leads, contacts or information on the area or people named > would be most appreciated. > Thanks, > Rondo > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a Motorola > E365. Go to: http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > To read previous messages to this list, for at least the last twelve months, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-WEST/

Hi Roz, It is a 450 page book with no index that I looked at in the Mitchell Library, Sydney. Its number is Q577.55099/2 Subject : Water conservation - NSW - Murray Darling Basin - History. Range management - NSW - Western Division - History. Agriculture - NSW - Murray and Riverina Region - History. Murray-Darling Basin (NSW) - History. Dewey : 577.55099448 You could get it on an inter-library loan from Charles Sturt University, Wagga Wagga Campus Library : ILL email wagill@scu.ed.au Roz, when I said I didn't need to know about Gol Gol and Mungo, I was only meaning that I did not want people wasting their time looking up where the places were etc. I would LOVE to hear anything that you have on the history of the area. Regards .................Rusheen. > From: "Roz Voullaire" <roz@voullaire.com.au> > Reply-To: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:54:39 +1100 > To: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NSW-W] CLOTHIER family at Euston and Deniliquin. > Resent-From: AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 04:55:56 -0700 > > Hi Rusheen > > A slight side track here - the book you mentioned by Dick Condon "Out of the > West" sounds interesting. Can I possibly bother you for some information > regarding the book i.e. what area does it cover, when it was published, who > was the publisher, ISBN No., etc. > > Many thanks > > Roz Voullaire > roz@voullaire.com.au > Gol Gol - NSW

Hi Rusheen A slight side track here - the book you mentioned by Dick Condon "Out of the West" sounds interesting. Can I possibly bother you for some information regarding the book i.e. what area does it cover, when it was published, who was the publisher, ISBN No., etc. Many thanks Roz Voullaire roz@voullaire.com.au Gol Gol - NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rusheen Craig" <recraig@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: [NSW-W] CLOTHIER family at Euston and Deniliquin. > I thought I had my husband's family safely tucked away as sea-related folk > at Balmain, Sydney. BUT - Don's grandmother's younger sister married a > CLOTHIER - so I find I have an entirely different family to track down. > > Does anyone know anything about Charles CLOTHIER who opened the Tooleybuc > Hotel, Deniliquin in 1868, and held it until 1873/4. Charles also had the > Royal Hotel, Euston 1879-1881; his wife, Emily Ann taking over for 1882. > > Another CLOTHIER question : In Dick Condon's "Out of the West" p.430 > Mungo National Park - The original 14,847 acres was acquired from Alf BARNES > - WLL 3000 Mungo. A later addition of 13,000 ha. from Mr & Mrs RE & RM > CLOTHIER - part of (Gol Gol LA No 148) Zanci Station. > > I know lots about Mungo/Gol Gol from MY Byrnes Family. What I am enquiring > about is the CLOTHIERs that were involved. > > Regards ................Rusheen. > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > Neighbouring Lists at Rootsweb are: AUS-NSW-PILLIGA, NSW-ORANGEBATHURST and AUS-NSW-MANNING-VALLEY > > >

I thought I had my husband's family safely tucked away as sea-related folk at Balmain, Sydney. BUT - Don's grandmother's younger sister married a CLOTHIER - so I find I have an entirely different family to track down. Does anyone know anything about Charles CLOTHIER who opened the Tooleybuc Hotel, Deniliquin in 1868, and held it until 1873/4. Charles also had the Royal Hotel, Euston 1879-1881; his wife, Emily Ann taking over for 1882. Another CLOTHIER question : In Dick Condon's "Out of the West" p.430 Mungo National Park - The original 14,847 acres was acquired from Alf BARNES - WLL 3000 Mungo. A later addition of 13,000 ha. from Mr & Mrs RE & RM CLOTHIER - part of (Gol Gol LA No 148) Zanci Station. I know lots about Mungo/Gol Gol from MY Byrnes Family. What I am enquiring about is the CLOTHIERs that were involved. Regards ................Rusheen.

Gretta, I couldn't think of a more peaceful place to be buried. Just wish I could find Charles Henry Read.I would love to be buried under an old apricot tree that was in the front garden where I was brought up at Bobadah. sadly that can't be but a nice thought though. regards Elaine Gretta Sculthorp wrote: > Sorry Elaine, can't help with that, but SO pleased to find someone who knows > about Nymagee and Gilgunyah etc. My g-grandparents lived at Nymagee before > 1900, and Charles Cottrell is buried near a creek near a well near > Gilgunyah. Seems he died on the road. > Gretta > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan & Elaine Rogers" <erogers@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:50 AM > Subject: [NSW-W] Cemetery listings > > > Dear Listers, Could sks please be able to tell me if there are any > > cemetery listings , maybe on line, for cemeteries around Cobar, Nymagee, > > Gilgunnia, Mount Hope, or any private ones. I am still looking for the > > death of Charles Henry Read. We know he was still alive (probably) in > > 1909 as he gave permission for his daughter Ada to marry. She married in > > Penrith. Charles death does not seem to be registered. I have quite a > > few certificates but not the right one. We know Charles wife was > > Isabella Roxburgh. She ?remarried about 1924 but I cannot find that > > registration either. She died in 1932 for which was registered. Maybe > > Isabella and Thomas Carroll never married but lived in a defacto > > relationship. > > Any ideas would be greatfully appreciated. Regards Elaine > > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > > Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go to > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to Surnames for > further details. > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to Surnames for further details.

Don't know if the List Admin will permit what is NOT MY QUESTION - she can be tough. This is for a friend, a close friend - my husband, whose family I had safely tucked away as sea-related folk at Balmain, Sydney. BUT - Don's grandmother's younger sister married a CLOTHIER - so I find I have an entirely different family to track down. Does anyone know anything about Charles CLOTHIER who opened the Tooleybuc Hotel, Deniliquin in 1868, and held it until 1873/4. Charles also had the Royal Hotel, Euston 1879-1881; his wife, Emily Ann taking over for 1882. Another CLOTHIER question : In Dick Condon's "Out of the West" p.430 Mungo National Park - The original 14,847 acres was acquired from Alf BARNES - WLL 3000 Mungo. A later addition of 13,000 ha. from Mr & Mrs RE & RM CLOTHIER - part of (Gol Gol LA No 148) Zanci Station. I know lots about Mungo/Gol Gol from MY Byrnes Family. What I am enquiring about is the CLOTHIERs that were involved. Regards ................Rusheen.

Sorry Elaine, can't help with that, but SO pleased to find someone who knows about Nymagee and Gilgunyah etc. My g-grandparents lived at Nymagee before 1900, and Charles Cottrell is buried near a creek near a well near Gilgunyah. Seems he died on the road. Gretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Elaine Rogers" <erogers@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-WEST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: [NSW-W] Cemetery listings > Dear Listers, Could sks please be able to tell me if there are any > cemetery listings , maybe on line, for cemeteries around Cobar, Nymagee, > Gilgunnia, Mount Hope, or any private ones. I am still looking for the > death of Charles Henry Read. We know he was still alive (probably) in > 1909 as he gave permission for his daughter Ada to marry. She married in > Penrith. Charles death does not seem to be registered. I have quite a > few certificates but not the right one. We know Charles wife was > Isabella Roxburgh. She ?remarried about 1924 but I cannot find that > registration either. She died in 1932 for which was registered. Maybe > Isabella and Thomas Carroll never married but lived in a defacto > relationship. > Any ideas would be greatfully appreciated. Regards Elaine > > > ==== AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List ==== > Have you registered your surnames on the NSW-WEST home page??? Go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ and from there to Surnames for further details. >

Dear Listers, Could sks please be able to tell me if there are any cemetery listings , maybe on line, for cemeteries around Cobar, Nymagee, Gilgunnia, Mount Hope, or any private ones. I am still looking for the death of Charles Henry Read. We know he was still alive (probably) in 1909 as he gave permission for his daughter Ada to marry. She married in Penrith. Charles death does not seem to be registered. I have quite a few certificates but not the right one. We know Charles wife was Isabella Roxburgh. She ?remarried about 1924 but I cannot find that registration either. She died in 1932 for which was registered. Maybe Isabella and Thomas Carroll never married but lived in a defacto relationship. Any ideas would be greatfully appreciated. Regards Elaine