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    1. [NSW-W] James ( Jimmy) Reid
    2. Dats Str8up via
    3. Looking for any information on a James ( Jimmy) Reid who was a drover around Gulargambone, Coonamble, Quombone, Warren etc and drowned in the Stock Tank at Carinda in 1953, married to a Mabel Ward and lived around Aboriginal mission @ Gulargambone, Anyone who has a picture I could copy would be greatly appreciated. Grant

    12/20/2015 12:13:57
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains
    2. Tony via
    3. Hello Valerie, I think you will find that your mum put on the floor a mixture of kerosine and linseed oil. Tony On 1/02/2015 7:38 PM, Valerie via wrote: > > Hello to all on list, Really enjoying all the info coming in about trains > from the Broken Hill area. > > I went to school at Silverton, just outside of Broken Hill and when we > first arrived in the town, we used to collect our home water supply in a > tank, collected in a tank carried on the back of a truck. Water was stored > at the Railway Station. The trains went via Silverton to Adelaide. Three > days a week, the morning train guard used to throw off a box of bread, > sent from Broken Hill for the local Silverton store. As the train went > through the local crossing, the guard would throw out the bread box, not > always did it land intact. A few years on after arriving, we went to live > in the house attached to the Silverton Goal, lovely old solid building. > My mum used to soak the wooden floors inside and also the outside verandah > boards with a linseed oil and something else and the boards used to shine so > beautifully. It was sad to see the floors now all misshapen and warped and > all dried out when we visited some years back, the house and goal is now is > a museum. > > I remember Kinalung. > > Kind Regards. Valerie > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-WEST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/02/2015 11:11:40
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains - "Annett Key"
    2. Tony Moore via
    3. Dear Linda, The "key" was only used where there was a single line which was shared with bi-directional traffic and it goes back to early steam trains when there originally wasn't electric signals. It most certainly was a failsafe method. I'm not sure if it was used for trains travelling in the same direction which would necessitate having more than one "key" and would defeat its ultimate purpose. I thought it was the interlock key to guarantee that the rail points were open for one-direction-travel-only while the opposite direction train would be diverted to the bypass siding. Electric signal lights, electronic interlock controls, two way radio, mobile phones and safety procedures have just about eliminated any need for the "keys" these days. The various state governments seemed to have closed most of the rural single bi-directional lines as "unprofitable", and continue to do so. The fast passenger trains seem to only run where there is profitable services. The long and heavy goods trains take nearly 2 km to fully stop and just as much to get up to speed, so the key would be a nuisance, if used. Given all these facts it would have to be a very minor branch line if it was to be used. Are there any of these "minor lines" still operating? Don't think so. Certainly no "mainline" services use them. In similar vein, I don't think there any regular steam engines still operating on mainline or regular timetabled passenger services. The key may still be in use on "private railways" such as "Puffing Billy"(Vic) or Zig Zag (Lithgow NSW) I did find the following from: http://www.signalbox.org/overseas/australia/index.htm Almost all NSWGR country stations were interlocked using the Key Interlocking System - a small central lever frame controlled the signals and released Annetts Keys which could be carried to nearby ground frames to release points giving access to sidings etc. On main interstate lines, the NSWGR usually provided a platform level cabin controlling crossing loop points (or crossovers on double track) and refuge siding points, but other sidings were generally still worked from key-released ground frames. Only a handful of locations on the NSWGR had elevated signalboxes as found on other railways lines. Once I had the name "Annett Key" I was able to find this: http://wiki.prov.vic.gov.au/index.php/VPRS_12800_P5_S_0168 and this http://www.artc.com.au/library/ANPR%20733%20v1.rev1.pdf Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 1 Feb 2015 at 18:10, Linda Barraclough via wrote: Date sent: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 18:10:54 +1100 To: aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NSW-W] Trains Send reply to: Linda Barraclough <kapana@netspace.net.au>, aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com From: Linda Barraclough via <aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com> > As late as the early 1970s they were still using a staff on the small > branch line on which I travelled in Victoria. Looked on the net, but > cannot find a picture. I remember it as a piece of pipe with two > flanges around the centre, but I am sure there was more to them than > each. At each station someone (driver? guard?) got out and pushed it > through a box that would allow them onto the next section. > > Do they still use them today? > > Linda > > At 05:48 PM 01-02-15 +1100, David wrote: > >Without the necessary staff which I now imagine is a giant brass > >key, then the train couldn't progress any further. My parents got to > >entertain various railway inspectors, Dept of Education inspectors etc while > >trains waited at Kinalung for the necessary staff. Waiting for the staff was > >a whole lot cheaper than a head on collision between two trains.

    02/01/2015 04:52:38
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains-Two worthwhile Youtube videos
    2. Jeannette Hope via
    3. Just to go back to the original question from Jennifer Tracey, There was never a single "direct connection Broken Hill to Melbourne" way back. There may have been connecting services then . There never was and there still isn't! I lived in Broken Hill in the 1980s, and in Wentworth since 1996, and the question of a rail link from Mildura north to connect with the Indian-Pacific has been around most of that time. It's not a current issue, because we still don't have a passenger train between Melbourne and Mildura (the last was before 1991 when I went by train from Melbourne to Swan Hill then bus to Mildura). Politicians of all stripes have been promising, but... I've been researching an earlier proposal, to build a railway bridge at Mildura/Wentworth, which dragged on from the 1890s to 1917. Victorian railway engineers actually came to Wentworth in 1902, did test drilling in the river and submitted a plan, which consisted of a bridge across both the Murray and the Darling at the junction, with the Darling blocked and a new channel cut. I have done a mock-up of what it might have looked like, roughly to scale, but alas cannot attach it! This line was not proposed to extend to Broken Hill, but to join a line from Adelaide via Renmark to Hay. Obviously it never went ahead, losing out to the 1920s Victorian line from Echuca-Moama- Moulamein -Balranald, which was part of a deal between the NSW and Victorian governments to open up the western Riverina for soldier settlement. The latter failed, but that line continued to Balranald to the 1970s, notably carrying tomatoes grown at Balranald (a record 50,860 cases were shipped by rail to Melbourne in 1932; I don't think any are grown there now). It still runs to Moulamein. Jeannette -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-west-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-west-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Moore via Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2015 10:00 PM To: Valerie via; Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey Subject: Re: [NSW-W] Trains-Two worthwhile Youtube videos Dear Jennifer T, Valerie, et al, You may find these two videos on Youtube interesting. The second one has some original footage from the 1930's NSWGR promotional film. Inside the Silver City Comet at Broken Hill Museum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR3eyABYKYk Silver City Comet narrated by Neale Battersby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYxC16KY0I Problem: Victorian - rail gauge 5 ft 6 inch NSW - rail gauge 4 ft 8 1/2 inch South Australia - rail gauges some 3 ft 6 inch others 4 ft 8 1/2 inch too much state jealousy / loyalty ? Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 1 Feb 2015 at 19:08, Valerie via wrote: To: <aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com> Date sent: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 19:08:21 +1030 Subject: [NSW-W] Trains Send reply to: Valerie <rosetta@adam.com.au>, aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com From: Valerie via <aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com> > Hello to all on list, Really enjoying all the info coming in about > trains from the Broken Hill area. <<snipped>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-WEST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2249 / Virus Database: 4257/8535 - Release Date: 02/01/15

    02/01/2015 03:50:55
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains-Two worthwhile Youtube videos
    2. Tony Moore via
    3. Dear Jennifer T, Valerie, et al, You may find these two videos on Youtube interesting. The second one has some original footage from the 1930's NSWGR promotional film. Inside the Silver City Comet at Broken Hill Museum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR3eyABYKYk Silver City Comet narrated by Neale Battersby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYxC16KY0I Just to go back to the original question from Jennifer Tracey, There was never a single "direct connection Broken Hill to Melbourne" way back. There may have been connecting services then . Problem: Victorian - rail gauge 5 ft 6 inch NSW - rail gauge 4 ft 8 1/2 inch South Australia - rail gauges some 3 ft 6 inch others 4 ft 8 1/2 inch too much state jealousy / loyalty ? Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 1 Feb 2015 at 19:08, Valerie via wrote: To: <aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com> Date sent: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 19:08:21 +1030 Subject: [NSW-W] Trains Send reply to: Valerie <rosetta@adam.com.au>, aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com From: Valerie via <aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com> > Hello to all on list, Really enjoying all the info coming in about trains > from the Broken Hill area. <<snipped>>

    02/01/2015 03:00:06
    1. [NSW-W] Railway Museum
    2. kymh via
    3. The phone number I have if it is still current is 08 80884660 Kym

    02/01/2015 02:26:51
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains
    2. David and Sandra Bales via
    3. Valerie and others, More of my links to trains in Broken Hill. My grandfather was a fitter and turner with the steam trams. My mother as a young girl knew the drivers and so would jump on the trams and travel free back to the depot and deliver a hot lunch to her father. Some years earlier on my grandmother' 20th birthday, January 1 1915 , she and her fiancé were part of the revellers travelling on the picnic train that was shot at. I have a brief cassette recording of my grandmother speaking about that day. Family rumour has it that there was a Friday night special train that travelled to Menindee from Broken Hill. The driver was supposed to have often enjoyed a drop or two too much and my grandfather who had no train driving training would drive the train to cover for his mate. As for me, I left Broken Hill at the end of 1946 having been born there in May that year so my memories are only what I have been told or read about. My parents travelled with 3 children under 6 from Broken Hill to Newcastle in December. I believe it was a very hot and dusty trip and at one stage ,"Out on the plains, the brolgas were dancing" which was meant to be a sight you never forgot. If I saw it, I have certainly forgotten. David Central Coast Hello to all on list, Really enjoying all the info coming in about trains from the Broken Hill area.

    02/01/2015 01:57:22
    1. [NSW-W] Trains
    2. Valerie via
    3. Hello to all on list, Really enjoying all the info coming in about trains from the Broken Hill area. I went to school at Silverton, just outside of Broken Hill and when we first arrived in the town, we used to collect our home water supply in a tank, collected in a tank carried on the back of a truck. Water was stored at the Railway Station. The trains went via Silverton to Adelaide. Three days a week, the morning train guard used to throw off a box of bread, sent from Broken Hill for the local Silverton store. As the train went through the local crossing, the guard would throw out the bread box, not always did it land intact. A few years on after arriving, we went to live in the house attached to the Silverton Goal, lovely old solid building. My mum used to soak the wooden floors inside and also the outside verandah boards with a linseed oil and something else and the boards used to shine so beautifully. It was sad to see the floors now all misshapen and warped and all dried out when we visited some years back, the house and goal is now is a museum. I remember Kinalung. Kind Regards. Valerie

    02/01/2015 12:08:21
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains
    2. Linda Barraclough via
    3. As late as the early 1970s they were still using a staff on the small branch line on which I travelled in Victoria. Looked on the net, but cannot find a picture. I remember it as a piece of pipe with two flanges around the centre, but I am sure there was more to them than each. At each station someone (driver? guard?) got out and pushed it through a box that would allow them onto the next section. Do they still use them today? Linda At 05:48 PM 01-02-15 +1100, David wrote: >Without the necessary staff which I now imagine is a giant brass >key, then the train couldn't progress any further. My parents got to >entertain various railway inspectors, Dept of Education inspectors etc while >trains waited at Kinalung for the necessary staff. Waiting for the staff was >a whole lot cheaper than a head on collision between two trains.

    02/01/2015 11:10:54
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains
    2. David and Sandra Bales via
    3. Jeannette, My parents used to speak of trains having to change the staff at Kinalung which gave then right of way on the next section of track. Most of the line to Broken Hill was single track with occasional passing lanes. There was a passing lane at Kinalung for example so I guess the next one was at Menindee. Without the necessary staff which I now imagine is a giant brass key, then the train couldn't progress any further. My parents got to entertain various railway inspectors, Dept of Education inspectors etc while trains waited at Kinalung for the necessary staff. Waiting for the staff was a whole lot cheaper than a head on collision between two trains. Their house consisted of one room attached to the school room with another room attached that my father built from railway sleepers and lined with cardboard from the cartons that their groceries arrived in from Broken Hill. Water also came from Broken Hill via train and was pumped into tanks near the line. That was then carried to the house in kerosene tins. My eldest sister was raised there for a year. Nothing remains of that school or the succeeding one. Kinalung is now a platform with a sign and a pumping station on the Menindee Lakes to Broken Hill pipe line. No other building is visible. Some of the Comet carriages were or are at a rail museum at Paterson in the Hunter Valley area David Sorry, no details on rolling stock, but the Silverton Tramway Museum has an engine and carriage of the Comet as well as some items of the Tramway stock. I'd be interested to hear any stories about travelling to and from Broken Hill before the Tramway closed and the standard gauge Indian Pacific took over (1970). I have never been to Broken Hill by train, but in about 1980-81, I took someone to Menindee Station to board the train to Sydney. The train came through about 8pm. Menindee Station is tiny - just one carriage long, and we were advised that the correct carriage would stop at the station. But before that happened, the engine stopped there - a huge diesel, huffing and puffing. The driver or a guard got out and handed over a giant brass key to the station master.

    02/01/2015 10:48:57
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Trains
    2. Jeannette Hope via
    3. Hi For a brief history of the Silverton Tramway (Broken Hill to Burns/Cockburn) and the NSW line to Broken Hill, see http://outbacknsw.com.au/category/9-corner-country-ua.html# , download s.9-10 Transport-Arts. Sorry, no details on rolling stock, but the Silverton Tramway Museum has an engine and carriage of the Comet as well as some items of the Tramway stock. I'd be interested to hear any stories about travelling to and from Broken Hill before the Tramway closed and the standard gauge Indian Pacific took over (1970). I have never been to Broken Hill by train, but in about 1980-81, I took someone to Menindee Station to board the train to Sydney. The train came through about 8pm. Menindee Station is tiny - just one carriage long, and we were advised that the correct carriage would stop at the station. But before that happened, the engine stopped there - a huge diesel, huffing and puffing. The driver or a guard got out and handed over a giant brass key to the station master. He also carried a billy can, took it into the station office and filled it up with boiling water from the urn. Then the engine revved up and slowly moved on till the right carriage reached the platform, and my friend embarked. I should have asked whether the train stopped for boiling water for a cup of tea even if there were passengers to pick up or drop off! I was reminded of another train and billy experience. Sometime in the early 1950s, my family went from Sydney to Canberra by steam train. At one point in the hills the train was going at slower than walking pace. People were getting off carrying billies, overtaking the engine on foot, getting a fill-up of hot water from the steam engine, and then waiting till their carriage caught up to board again! Jeannette Hope Wentworth -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-west-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-west-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie via Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2015 10:31 AM To: aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com Subject: [NSW-W] Trains Hello, Regarding the trains, a little extra Info from a family member. In earlier years, the Comet only ran as far as Parks, then you changed trains. Though a little later than the years of required information, I remember the train from Broken Hill to Adelaide, late 1940's ,the carriages had some rather wonderful fittings, beautiful taps and accessories in some carriages. As a child, I used to love standing at the end of the carriage looking out. We also changed trains from broken Hill to Adelaide. The Overland, the Adelaide to Melbourne train. Regards. Valerie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-WEST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2249 / Virus Database: 4257/8529 - Release Date: 01/31/15

    02/01/2015 09:35:58
    1. [NSW-W] Trains
    2. Valerie via
    3. Hello, Regarding the trains, a little extra Info from a family member. In earlier years, the Comet only ran as far as Parks, then you changed trains. Though a little later than the years of required information, I remember the train from Broken Hill to Adelaide, late 1940's ,the carriages had some rather wonderful fittings, beautiful taps and accessories in some carriages. As a child, I used to love standing at the end of the carriage looking out. We also changed trains from broken Hill to Adelaide. The Overland, the Adelaide to Melbourne train. Regards. Valerie

    02/01/2015 03:01:13
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Railway Trains to Broken Hill, NSW. 1939-1946
    2. mesdts2 via
    3. Jennifer, I contacted the NSW Railway Historical Society when I was looking for information and timetables when I was looking for information on trains from Queensland through to Victoria in the early 1900’s. They were able to give me the timetables and the type of trains that were used on the route. All the best with your search Marie

    02/01/2015 01:27:48
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Railway Trains to Broken Hill, NSW. 1939-1946
    2. David and Sandra Bales via
    3. Jennifer, I have been trying to find an email contact for the Sulphide St Railway Museum in Broken Hill. Search Google etc and you might have more success. Some articles in various web sites gives pictures of the museum and some of the rolling stock. Rail history has been important in Broken Hill this year with the centenary of the shooting at a picnic train on January 1, 1915. It would perhaps be a good time to approach the museum. Trains from Melbourne to Broken Hill would have been a circuitous route. The line from Sydney to Broken Hill wasn't completed until 7 November 1927. Until then a train trip from Broken Hill to Sydney went via Adelaide and Melbourne with extra changes at various state borders. As a child my mother did that trip but continued on to Cairns with an extra change or two along the way then did the return trip to Broken Hill. Sorry but I can't ask my parents what trains came through Kinalung between Menindee and Broken Hill in 1940 where Dad was the teacher at the one teacher school in what was a railway fettlers camp. Good luck David (3rd generation Broken Hill born) Hoping there may be a 'railway / train buff' on the list who could assist a colleague. He is searching for details of trains that ran from Sydney to Broken Hill, and from Melbourne to Broken Hill, anytime during the years 1939 through to 1946. In particular, the types of engines, rolling stock etc. associated with the 'special trains' that ran those routes, and whether such trains were under military or government control. Also, if anyone knows of family members associated with the military or bank officials associated with the 'special trains' I would be grateful for some leads. My personal contact details are noted below. Kind regards, Jennifer

    01/31/2015 02:58:22
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Railway Trains to Broken Hill, NSW. 1939-1946
    2. Valerie via
    3. Hi, I well remember the Silver City Comet. Here is a link that might tell a little more about this service at least and lead on to other things. My father used to work for the Tramway company in Broken Hill. Cheers. Valerie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_City_Comet -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-west-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-west-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey via Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2015 2:36 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com; aus-military@rootsweb.com; aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com Subject: [NSW-W] Railway Trains to Broken Hill, NSW. 1939-1946 Hoping there may be a 'railway / train buff' on the list who could assist a colleague. He is searching for details of trains that ran from Sydney to Broken Hill, and from Melbourne to Broken Hill, anytime during the years 1939 through to 1946. In particular, the types of engines, rolling stock etc. associated with the 'special trains' that ran those routes, and whether such trains were under military or government control. Also, if anyone knows of family members associated with the military or bank officials associated with the 'special trains' I would be grateful for some leads. My personal contact details are noted below. Kind regards, Jennifer Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA(ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHAQ; Member ~ Professional Historians Association (Qld) Inc. Archaeologist, Historian & Heritage Consultant PO Box 629, Morayfield, Queensland 4506 Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-WEST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/31/2015 08:59:03
    1. [NSW-W] Railway Trains to Broken Hill, NSW. 1939-1946
    2. Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey via
    3. Hoping there may be a 'railway / train buff' on the list who could assist a colleague. He is searching for details of trains that ran from Sydney to Broken Hill, and from Melbourne to Broken Hill, anytime during the years 1939 through to 1946. In particular, the types of engines, rolling stock etc. associated with the 'special trains' that ran those routes, and whether such trains were under military or government control. Also, if anyone knows of family members associated with the military or bank officials associated with the 'special trains' I would be grateful for some leads. My personal contact details are noted below. Kind regards, Jennifer Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA(ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHAQ; Member ~ Professional Historians Association (Qld) Inc. Archaeologist, Historian & Heritage Consultant PO Box 629, Morayfield, Queensland 4506 Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au

    01/31/2015 07:05:33
    1. [NSW-W] Thomas Mathews and Louth
    2. Richard via
    3. Thanks Tony and Rusheen for all your tips.  I'll go down to Sydney soon and look at the LPI and RAHS archives.  The problem will be going back before the 1865 purchase to see who, if anyone, was using the land that T.A.Mathews selected.  I'd imagine it was loosely bundled in among runs that the 1844 law allowed graziers to use without title, and Mathews saw the potential and applied for it under the new 1862 law. I've contacted Bourke Library as well. They have a great collection of photos and files on local history. Regards Richard

    10/16/2014 11:47:00
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Thomas Mathews and Louth
    2. Tony Moore via
    3. Dear Richard, Here are a number of references that might be of use in your search....... http://www.brolgahealingjourneys.com/?p=63 An extensive history of T A Matthews is given .............. It says "Mathews bought three blocks of land in the first sale of town land in Bourke on 23 September 1862. This significant event had followed 2 years of agitation by Thomas Dangar and later, Joseph Becker, to establish a town where there were already stores, a hotel and dwellings. The township had been marked out in May that year and the first government officials appointed shortly afterwards." On the Geographic Names Board site: http://www.gnb.nsw.gov.au for Louth, it has the following: Placename: Louth Designation: Locality Local Government Area: Bourke Approx. AGD66 Lat: -30 30 30 Approx. AGD66 Long: 145 07 10 Approx. GDA94 Lat: -30 30 24 Approx. GDA94 Long: 145 07 14 Topographic Map: Louth 1:100000 Map: Louth 7936 Parish: Yandagulla County: Yanda Description: A locality about 4 km S of Louth Trig. Station and about 14 km NE of Rocky Hill. Boundaries within the Bourke Council area shown on map marked GNB3632. Origin: LOUTH - named after county in Ireland, a settler Thomas Matthews was born there. P. 79. (Information from RAHS Journal Vo1 42 Pt 2. I would like to draw your attention to the information within the heading marked "Origin" where it mentions the reference to the Royal Australian Historical Society Journal. The RAHS web page is: http://www.rahs.org.au/publications/rahs-journal/ http://www.rahs.org.au/contact/ Also on the GNB site it shows: Placename: Louth Designation: Parish Parish: Louth County: Yanda Description: A parish in the Western Division Parish DP No. 757343 Because it has a DP reference as a starting point you can now go to the Land & Property information http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/mapping_and_imagery/parish_maps ........ searching Old Systems titles and there is a very good chance that an exact description of the surveyed blocks is available with the name Matthews against it.. I do not know if you can get to the office in Sydney, but since you have dates the records will be on file. A coloured photocopy of the original title deeds cost $14 per set (3 individual blocks / sets) I would also recommend you contact the Bourke Public Library http://www.bourkelibrary.com.au/ http://www.bourkelibrary.com.au/contact.html I have not been in contact with the library for many years but the head librarian then was an avid local history enthusiast and if she is no longer there I hope her enthusiasm has be shared with others. I think the library was the contact point for the Bourke & District Historical Society. The following book is in the Bourke Public Library Catalogue for the Family History section: Author Huggins, John. Title Mathews family history / compiled by John Huggins. Published New South Wales : J. Huggins, 1985. Collation 31 p. ; 30 cm. Shelf Location: FH929.209 MAT I would imagine if you want a scanned copy of the full book or photocopy as an out-of-print publication you would have to make a donation to the library. ( I suspect it may be included as part the History of Bourke CD, as this CD is quite modern CD, but I cannot confirm this.) The "History of Bourke" is now available on CD where once it was bound and duplicated, and later printed books. ................ http://www.visitbourke.com.au/merchandise/bourke-historical-collection#.VD5YzBYm aSo or .......... http://tinyurl.com/q5c7pvg Published Bourke, N.S.W. : Bourke and District Historical Society, 1966-1985. Publication Date Vol. 1 (1964-1966)-v. 10 (1985) Notes Title varies slightly: The Papers presented by members of the Bourke and District Historical Society ... on the history of Bourke, 1975-1982-83; The papers presented by members of the Bourke and District Historical Society : the History of Bourke, 1985- Subject Bourke (N.S.W.) -- History -- Periodicals. Other Title Papers presented by the members of the Bourke and District Historical Society History of Bourke Papers on the history of Bourke and district On the history of Bourke Organisation Bourke and District Historical Society. Bourke Historical Society. Dewey 994.49005 Bib Util 4765178 10664548 I have found all the various blocks owned by the Matthews Clan including Thomas, Annie and the other Matthews clan members on the Land & Property Information site for Historical Parish maps. If you are confident about navigating there you can search YANDA and download what you need. Otherwise I can send you the relevant map. (Louth. jpg ... 2 Mb). Let me know. I hope you find something useful amongst all these bits & pieces. Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 15 Oct 2014 at 17:27, Richard via wrote: Date sent: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:27:06 +1100 To: AUS-NSW-WEST@rootsweb.com Subject: [NSW-W] Thomas Mathews and Louth Send reply to: Richard <winbarst@gmail.com>, aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com From: Richard via <aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com> > Hello listers > > I'm researching Thomas Andrew Mathews and the early history of Louth. I > found a column named 'Facts and Figures' in the Western Herald of 7.12.1962 > that says > > 'Collers Yard was selected in 1861 by T.A. Mathews and renamed Louth after > an Irish counterpart.' > > The date of the transaction was actually 19.1.1865. I'm assuming that Mathews > took advantage of the new land laws and selected his initial 40 acres from an > area of runs that would later be included in Dunlop Station. > > This is the only reference to Collers Yard that I've found. Would > anyone know of any sources that might have references to the area in > which Louth was selected? > > Thank you > > Richard

    10/15/2014 05:46:12
    1. Re: [NSW-W] Thomas Mathews and Louth
    2. Rusheen Craig via
    3. Richard try looking at http://www.brolgahealingjourneys.com/?p=60 and the supplement. It doesn't mention "Collers Yard" but does seem to cover every other aspect of Mathews' life in Australia. The Parish Maps show the original holders of land: http://images.maps.nsw.gov.au/pixel.htm# Louth is the county of Yanda (which you use as the keyword); the parish is Yandagulla. The problem would be that if Mathew's land was further subdivided then the owners of the subdivisions would appear on the map rather than Mathews. Mathews could have occupied the land before it was officially surveyed and first offered for sale in 1865. In my case I've found that those relatively very small blocks of 40 acres used for hotels stayed on a separate title from the larger holding - but that is just my personal experience. Regards ......... Rusheen. On 15/10/2014, at 5:27 PM, Richard via wrote: > I'm researching Thomas Andrew Mathews and the early history of > Louth. I > found a column named 'Facts and Figures' in the Western Herald of > 7.12.1962 > that says > > 'Collers Yard was selected in 1861 by T.A. Mathews and renamed Louth > after > an Irish counterpart.' > > The date of the transaction was actually 19.1.1865. I'm assuming > that Mathews > took advantage of the new land laws and selected his initial 40 > acres from an > area of runs that would later be included in Dunlop Station. > > This is the only reference to Collers Yard that I've found. Would > anyone know of any sources that might have references to the area in > which Louth was selected? > > Thank you > > Richard

    10/15/2014 05:07:25
    1. [NSW-W] Thomas Mathews and Louth
    2. Richard via
    3. Hello listers I'm researching Thomas Andrew Mathews and the early history of Louth. I found a column named 'Facts and Figures' in the Western Herald of 7.12.1962 that says 'Collers Yard was selected in 1861 by T.A. Mathews and renamed Louth after an Irish counterpart.' The date of the transaction was actually 19.1.1865. I'm assuming that Mathews took advantage of the new land laws and selected his initial 40 acres from an area of runs that would later be included in Dunlop Station. This is the only reference to Collers Yard that I've found. Would anyone know of any sources that might have references to the area in which Louth was selected? Thank you Richard

    10/15/2014 11:27:06