Hi Listers Sorry to be a bit slow in responding to the replies, but this morning has been a bit of a case of "The best laid plans etc.," here, just when I was itching to be doing this instead. Never mind, I do thank everyone so much for their time and effort in answering my query, I appreciate it so very much. My ancestors were Patrick and Cecilia Harper (my 2x great grandparents actually) and I descend from their daughter Mary Harper (who was their 16th child). It is on her certificate that their residence said "Glebe Farm, South Creek" and as Tony said in his reply it is Cecilia's death notice which mentioned the place "Landyle Estate" but I could not find it to know how it related to where my ancestors were. Patrick was granted 100 acres of land there at South Creek in 1820 and later another 100 acres, was added, and I was trying to pinpoint just where precisely the farm must have been. When I saw the other responses saying "Llandilo" and said it to myself I could see the error and cross with myself as I saw that place staring me in the face on the map I was looking at and did not take any notice of thinking outside the square, so I must have been having a senior moment as the penny did not drop. Thanks once again everyone that was a great help. Bye now Margaret ************************* Margaret Bauer Queensland, Australia bauerm@tpg.com.au *************************