Sorry for not locating the Browns. I thought the bushfire smoke had abated enough for me to have my wits about me properly. Apparently not. I'll do this and obviously should retreat until the Blue Mountains fire is out, hopefully in a couple of weeks. In 1813 Elizabeth nee WINCH lived in Lower Pitt Street & was out walking with her beau John BROWN. Elizabeth was the lass accosted by 2 of Macquarie's inebriated off duty soldiers. During the fracas one hit William Holness with a paling or similar, causing death. As soldiers were tried by soldiers, they received 6 months restricted to Parramatta and fined 1/- each. The result was Gov. Macquarie requested London that soldiers not be able to hold land while serving etc and also a key factor in the 73rd Regiment moving on to India. Court case is in Historical Records of Australia Vol 8 with both Elizabeth & John giving evidence. I know nothing of their children other than of Richard - my ancestor. I have located him in Woolloomlloo, in the 1870s the family lived in Wilmot Street, Sydney (between George & Pitt Streets, opposite the Hoyts Theatre complex) and later he was in The Rocks area. Richard died in 1874 in Goodlet Street. So inner Sydney of the times, certainly not among the wealthier residents! Joan