HI all, Agreed - but some changes have occurred. Long, long ago before the road bridge across the Hawkesbury my parents used to pack us in the car with the camping gear and head off to Tuggerah for the Easter holidays. We left Eastwood before daylight and joined the queue of parked cars before too long, then edged our way towards the river by whatever number of cars got on the ferry, waited until it crossed and returned, then moved on another short distance etc etc etc. It is one of my childhood "nightmares". Obviously the return was no better! Joan