I am seeking any information that may be out there about two siblings of my GG grandmother, Sarah LYNCHEY or LYNCH, who accompanied their convict mother, Sarah LYNCHEY or LYNCH, from the Isle of Man to Sydney in 1835 on the Mary III. I have found some hints as to the names of these two children, a girl possibly Sarah, aged probably 10 years but no older than 12 years (the maximum age the British Government allowed for girls to accompany a convict mother), and a boy possibly James, aged no more than 8 years (the maximum for boys). Ten years of trying on RootsWebb Convict Lists has brought not one response. This is long enough ago for origins to be fuzzy, let alone the "forgetting" that arose from the fear of the convict stain which prevailed until WW II. Any response will be much appreciated. Peter Melbourne

Thanks I might have my wires crossed then. I thought I read that in a book I recently got when I did a tour of Cockatoo Island. As a young girl I dated the Manager's son, and he often used to push me in to the old convict cells just to frighten me. On 28 June 2012 13:39, Max Bancroft <maxban1938@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Hi Mary, in the newspaper articles I digitized many of the young girls > found > on the streets of Sydney after dark were sent to garden island and taught a > trade rather than have them drift into prostitution > Regards > Max Bancroft > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Mary Cunningham > Date: 28/06/2012 6:54:55 AM > To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > > Thanks, that was the other ship I was trying to remember......The Vernon. > I think from memory they were both anchored off Cockatoo Island, and > The authorities did their utmost to keep the boys away from the female > Convicts on the island. > > Mary Cunningham > > > On 27/06/2012, at 5:18 PM, Max Bancroft <maxban1938@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > Sorry that should have been 1883 not 1993 > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Max Bancroft > > Date: 27/06/2012 5:11:12 PM > > To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > > > > Hello Alistair, a couple of years ago I volunteered to do a project > > Digitizing circa 1993 newspaper articles for Bill Shute. > > In several of them young lads were sentenced to serve time on the > training > > > Ship Vernon. > > The Vernon may still have been in use during the period that interests > you > > > Regards > > Max Bancroft > > > > Re : > > > > > > On 27 June 2012 15:34, Alistair Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> wrote: > > > >> On 27/06/2012 12:00 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. Wrote: > >>> I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 > >> Groups of > >>> British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > >>> > >>> I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > >>> arrived Sydney? > >> > >> I have a vague recollection that in those days the SYDNEY > >> CLUB was supportive of UK immigrant boys. > >> > >> Try GOOGLE with these keywords "the Sydney club" immigrants > >>> > >> > >> Alistair > > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > > Reply...... Thank you! > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > > reply...... Thank you! > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > Reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mary, in the newspaper articles I digitized many of the young girls found on the streets of Sydney after dark were sent to garden island and taught a trade rather than have them drift into prostitution Regards Max Bancroft -------Original Message------- From: Mary Cunningham Date: 28/06/2012 6:54:55 AM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? Thanks, that was the other ship I was trying to remember......The Vernon. I think from memory they were both anchored off Cockatoo Island, and The authorities did their utmost to keep the boys away from the female Convicts on the island. Mary Cunningham On 27/06/2012, at 5:18 PM, Max Bancroft <maxban1938@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Sorry that should have been 1883 not 1993 > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Max Bancroft > Date: 27/06/2012 5:11:12 PM > To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > > Hello Alistair, a couple of years ago I volunteered to do a project > Digitizing circa 1993 newspaper articles for Bill Shute. > In several of them young lads were sentenced to serve time on the training > Ship Vernon. > The Vernon may still have been in use during the period that interests you > Regards > Max Bancroft > > Re : > > > On 27 June 2012 15:34, Alistair Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> wrote: > >> On 27/06/2012 12:00 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. Wrote: >>> I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 >> Groups of >>> British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. >>> >>> I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when >>> arrived Sydney? >> >> I have a vague recollection that in those days the SYDNEY >> CLUB was supportive of UK immigrant boys. >> >> Try GOOGLE with these keywords "the Sydney club" immigrants >>> >> >> Alistair > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > Reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any Reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Bill; > You should get that information from the National Archives website. That may be so, but; it isn't the easiest of sites to navigate and although I've tried; I cannot find the ship I am seeking. From what I understand: the "S.S. New Australia" departed Southampton 2 Nov 1955 for Australia and arrived Sydney 4 Dec 1955?, but; I couldn't find reference to the "S. S. New Australia" on the National Archives site. I thought I would find the ship arriving on TROVE, but as yet; haven't done so. Regards: Robert KEMSLEY

Good afternoon Peter: From what I understand; the boys in question were sourced by the C of E in Britain and bought out by the UPA to here enter one of their Boy's Homes in Sydney. Regards: Robert KEMSLEY

Robert, Big Brother Movement email adress :- info@bbm.asn.au Cheers Peter S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Stevens" <ztevenz@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > Try the Big Brother Movement in Sydney. > > I came out on the Orcades with a group of boys (16 - 17 year olds ) > and arrived in Sydney in January 1952 and stayed in their > hostel at Homebush. > > F.Peter Stevens. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:00 PM > Subject: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > > >> I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 Groups >> of >> British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. >> >> I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when >> arrived Sydney? >> >> Regards: >> >> Robert KEMSLEY >> >> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >> reply...... Thank you! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Good morning Bill; I did try the site, but will again have to return to and see what I can find there. Kindest regards: Robert KEMSLEY

Try the Big Brother Movement in Sydney. I came out on the Orcades with a group of boys (16 - 17 year olds ) and arrived in Sydney in January 1952 and stayed in their hostel at Homebush. F.Peter Stevens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 Groups of > British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > > I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > arrived Sydney? > > Regards: > > Robert KEMSLEY > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Robert, You should get that information from the National Archives website. Sincerely, Bill > I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 Groups of > British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > > I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > arrived Sydney? > >

Thanks, that was the other ship I was trying to remember......The Vernon. I think from memory they were both anchored off Cockatoo Island, and the authorities did their utmost to keep the boys away from the female convicts on the island. Mary Cunningham On 27/06/2012, at 5:18 PM, Max Bancroft <maxban1938@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Sorry that should have been 1883 not 1993 > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Max Bancroft > Date: 27/06/2012 5:11:12 PM > To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > > Hello Alistair, a couple of years ago I volunteered to do a project > Digitizing circa 1993 newspaper articles for Bill Shute. > In several of them young lads were sentenced to serve time on the training > Ship Vernon. > The Vernon may still have been in use during the period that interests you. > Regards > Max Bancroft > > Re : > > > On 27 June 2012 15:34, Alistair Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> wrote: > >> On 27/06/2012 12:00 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. Wrote: >>> I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 >> Groups of >>> British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. >>> >>> I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when >>> arrived Sydney? >> >> I have a vague recollection that in those days the SYDNEY >> CLUB was supportive of UK immigrant boys. >> >> Try GOOGLE with these keywords "the Sydney club" immigrants >>> >> >> Alistair > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > Reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can search the National Archives records online for passenger lists 1924-1964. Shirlee Cantwell Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? > I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 Groups of > British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > > I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > arrived Sydney? > > Regards: > > Robert KEMSLEY > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry that should have been 1883 not 1993 -------Original Message------- From: Max Bancroft Date: 27/06/2012 5:11:12 PM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] 1952-1956: Ships arriving Sydney from London? Hello Alistair, a couple of years ago I volunteered to do a project Digitizing circa 1993 newspaper articles for Bill Shute. In several of them young lads were sentenced to serve time on the training Ship Vernon. The Vernon may still have been in use during the period that interests you. Regards Max Bancroft Re : On 27 June 2012 15:34, Alistair Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> wrote: > On 27/06/2012 12:00 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. Wrote: > > I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 > Groups of > > British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > > > > I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > > arrived Sydney? > > I have a vague recollection that in those days the SYDNEY > CLUB was supportive of UK immigrant boys. > > Try GOOGLE with these keywords "the Sydney club" immigrants > > > > Alistair Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any Reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Alistair, a couple of years ago I volunteered to do a project digitizing circa 1993 newspaper articles for Bill Shute. In several of them young lads were sentenced to serve time on the training ship Vernon. The Vernon may still have been in use during the period that interests you. Regards Max Bancroft Re : On 27 June 2012 15:34, Alistair Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> wrote: > On 27/06/2012 12:00 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. Wrote: > > I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 > Groups of > > British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > > > > I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > > arrived Sydney? > > I have a vague recollection that in those days the SYDNEY > CLUB was supportive of UK immigrant boys. > > Try GOOGLE with these keywords "the Sydney club" immigrants > > > > Alistair

Hi all To add to your conversation re orphaned boys, there were two ships permanently docked off Cockatoo Island in Sydney. One was the Sobrian and I can't remember the name of the other one. They were like schools for the boys. Training ships I think they were called. We moved three years ago, and a lot of my genealogy stuff is still in storage because we moved in to a unit. otherwise I could dig out more info for you. I had thought that my great grandfather might have been one of the boys, but didn't find anything on him. Thank you, and kind regards Mary Cunningham Core Developments NQ Pty Ltd PO Box 3761 Hermit Park Q 4812 Ph: 07 4772 6026 On 27 June 2012 15:34, Alistair Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> wrote: > On 27/06/2012 12:00 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: > > I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 > Groups of > > British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > > > > I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > > arrived Sydney? > > I have a vague recollection that in those days the SYDNEY > CLUB was supportive of UK immigrant boys. > > Try GOOGLE with these keywords "the sydney club" immigrants > > > > Alistair > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 27/06/2012 12:00 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: > I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 Groups of > British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. > > I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when > arrived Sydney? I have a vague recollection that in those days the SYDNEY CLUB was supportive of UK immigrant boys. Try GOOGLE with these keywords "the sydney club" immigrants > Alistair

I am researching a Boy's Home in Sydney; finding there were 8 Groups of British Boys left London for Sydney between 1952 & 1956. I am curious to find when they left London, on what ship and when arrived Sydney? Regards: Robert KEMSLEY

I am researching my Gibbs family who were living in Darlington and Redfern in the late 1800s. Frederick Gibbs died in 1890. I have been looking for the death of his wife Mary Gibbs and cannot find anything. I have found a marriage of Mary Gibbs to Robert Warren and wondered if it might be my Mary Gibbs. If anyone is connected to the Warren family who seemed to have moved to Balmain in the early 1900s I would love to hear from them. Kaye Vernon www.teapotgenealogy.com

Hi all I can still remember the face of the nurse who held my hand all the way down to the theatre in 1968, when I was a child about to have major surgery on my knees. Remember in those days nurses trained in hospitals, so I would contact the local hospital for Enmore and ask them about staff lists. I got the medical notes from my six month stay in hospital, so records are kept. God bless those who choose to keep them. I was in the Royal Alexandria Hospital for children at Camperdown, and they had a huge nurses quarters on site. Perhaps they only made the nursing students live onsite, as they would have been aged 15 and up. Your Nurse Brown may have been an older and more qualified nurse so was allowed to live off site. Just a thought. Mary Cunningham On 22/06/2012, at 6:20 PM, "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Good evening Howard: > > Unfortunately; We (The Boarders): only ever knew our "Landlady" as > "Nurse BROWN" and without knowing her Christian name; I am finding it almost > impossible to now find out anything about her. > > I was hoping that entering her address in the Electoral Rolls would > assist me, but that didn't work out and I am unsure which Electoral District > the address would have been in, in 1955 - 1956? > > As to "Nurse BROWN" being a registered Nurse? I know not. > > Kindest Regards: > > Robert KEMSLEY > >> Would it be possible that she worked as Nurse BROWN but as far as the >> Electoral Rolls were concerned she was registered as her married name, >> assuming that is, she had married. > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Joan for the link. It is an interesting read....and thanks to Tony for the updated link to the Irish Convicts to Australia Transportation database. I had not been able to find it on National Archives of Ireland recently. Cheers Jan Koperberg Blue Mountains, NSW > which eventually leads to: > http://tinyurl.com/7po58hc > Cheers, > Tony Moore > (Castle Hill, NSW) >> This URL came in on an Irish American list. I thought it might be of >> interest. >> _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/oc/oznz/pasconau.html_ >> (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/oc/oznz/pasconau.html) >> Joan

Dear Joan, Unfortunately, the reference links are slightly out of date and I suspect they have not been updated since somewhere between years 1997 and 2000. All is not lost: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/oc/oznz/pasconau.html The Irish Convicts database links can NOW be found by searching using the Irish National Archives home page from: http://www.nationalarchives.ie/ which eventually leads to: http://tinyurl.com/7po58hc above is the short redirection to this much longer address ........ http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/ireland-australia-transportation-records-1791-1853/ Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 22 Jun 2012 at 14:12, Dasmi1170@aol.com wrote: From: Dasmi1170@aol.com Date sent: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:12:08 -0400 (EDT) To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANS] Irish Convicts Transported to Australia Send reply to: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Hello, > > This URL came in on an Irish American list. I thought it might be of > interest. > > _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/oc/oznz/pasconau.html_ > (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/oc/oznz/pasconau.html) > > 95 F. degrees in Massachusetts, USA. We have had 3 days of above 90 --- So > it's a heat wave. > > All take care! > > Joan