Marg Keep an eye out on eBay and also gum tree... I got a small one for $10.. From a lady in gosford area.. If you like I'll keep an eye out for you... Regards Bev Sent from my iPad >

At 02:11 PM 26/07/2012, you wrote: >Worth reading >http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/we-should-revere-the-keepers-of-knowledge-20120725-22qqa.html Is our NSW future owned by "a pack of accountants and philistines"? "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'" (G. Orwell) > Record keeping is getting more digital and has no hard > copy........... Its a worry ! And there's not even enough understanding of the difference between backups and digital archiving. Backups can be altered. In the future when fiche readers are no longer available, you can at least simply use a lens. Gary _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

 A very good friend of mine went to Govt. auctions here in Brisbane and picked up a portable microfiche reader in a had case (similar to briefcase) for only $10.It's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Jackie QLD ----- Original Message ----- From: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:33:58 +1000 Subject:Re: [ANS] Food for thought MargM wrote here: Have quite a few indexes on micro fiche But fiche readers are no longer made. For a useful cash donation to a LDS Family History, I got two of their surplus Leigh Mardon #575 fiche readers. Kept one, donated the other to Goulburn city library...... > Record keeping is getting more digital and has no hard > copy........... Its a worry ! Backups are so darned important. Our family data is donated on paper or as GEDCOM files to town libraries (such as SAG in Kent St Sydney), and the locations which figure prominently in our pedigrees. IF any Listers have/ had major connections in our town of Bundanoon 2578 I suggest that they send info to: The Archivist, Bundanoon History Group Inc, PO Box 180, BUNDANOON NSW 2578. Cheers, ALISTAIR Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MargM wrote here: Have quite a few indexes on micro fiche But fiche readers are no longer made. For a useful cash donation to a LDS Family History, I got two of their surplus Leigh Mardon #575 fiche readers. Kept one, donated the other to Goulburn city library...... > Record keeping is getting more digital and has no hard > copy........... Its a worry ! Backups are so darned important. Our family data is donated on paper or as GEDCOM files to town libraries (such as SAG in Kent St Sydney), and the locations which figure prominently in our pedigrees. IF any Listers have/ had major connections in our town of Bundanoon 2578 I suggest that they send info to: The Archivist, Bundanoon History Group Inc, PO Box 180, BUNDANOON NSW 2578. Cheers, ALISTAIR

Worth reading http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/we-should-revere-the-keepers-of-knowledge-20120725-22qqa.html Up to 2004 I have, albeit ,CDs of phone numbers for the whole county. Then Telstra stopped making them. Have a large number of photos many still in mostly Kodak packets the chemist put your photos in with negatives , and a heap in Picassa Have quite a few indexes on micro fiche But fiche readers are no longer made. We still have an old Telecom dial up phone as this works in a power failure Record keeping is getting more digital and has no hard copy........... Its a worry ! Bye MargM List Admin

Thanks to Max, Wendy, Bill and Marg for your ideas and advice. I'll contact DoCS and take it from there. Pete > Hi Pete > > The NSW BDMs has quite a lot of info > > http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/adoptions/adoptions.htm > > > There is also a contact register that could be involved . The > adoptee has to apply . A third party cant . > You can give them how to do this guidance . Have done 2 of these > both with good outcomes > > Bye > >

Hello Marg Thanks, both look possible, especially the first one since Arthur was a bricklayer! Appreciate your assistance as always Rob Halesowen GB Hi Rob Findmypasts passenger departures list 2 possible ........ A Mr A WEBB ,bricklayer b 1884. on the Damascus which dep London 2 Aug 1904 and a Mr Webb b 1885 , no occ stated, dep Southampton on the Riverina 10 Oct 1905 If you haven't already done so could be worth checking in the passenger arrival indexes on Qld State Archives web site . Casino is in northern NSW away from the coast. They only had one child, Elsie J in 1907 , Casino . Did they leave Australia? When posting on foreign mailing lists its not a bad idea to give clue to your location ! Bye MargM Sydney List Admin Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If it helps my greatgrandfather adopted his illegitmate daughter with another wife - not the mother and it was done through the court process in Perth in 1918, the girl was about 8 at the time with consent of the birth mother,most likely as she had another three children by that time. Hope you can find what you are looking for. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Brien" <pmo2167@gmail.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:21 PM Subject: [ANS] Adoption in Sydney in early 1957 > > I've been doing family history research for over 10 years, but have never > done any work on adoptions. >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Brien" <pmo2167@gmail.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:21 AM Subject: [ANS] Adoption in Sydney in early 1957 > > > I've been doing family history research for over 10 years, but > have never > done any work on adoptions. > > Is there anyone on the list with experience reseaching > adoptions in NSW who > might be able to give me a few tips? > > Hi Pete The NSW BDMs has quite a lot of info http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/adoptions/adoptions.htm There is also a contact register that could be involved . The adoptee has to apply . A third party cant . You can give them how to do this guidance . Have done 2 of these both with good outcomes Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Dear Pete, The Salvation Army seem to be able to find a lot of information that others do not seem to be able to find. Might be worth having a talk to your local person. Sincerely, Bill > > I've been doing family history research for over 10 years, but have never > done any work on adoptions. > > Is there anyone on the list with experience reseaching adoptions in NSW > who > might be able to give me a few tips?

Hello Pete, if you make an appointment with DOCS they may be able to help you with adoptions. About 1920 NSW adoptions were formalized into law. Prior to that babies were simply given away to childless couples which DOCS now refer to as being a "Back door adoption" . Though the law was formalized, back door adoptions continued unofficially into the 1930s. Regards Max Bancroft Re : Adoption in Sydney in early 1957 I've been doing family history research for over 10 years, but have never Done any work on adoptions. Is there anyone on the list with experience reseaching adoptions in NSW who Might be able to give me a few tips?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Griffin" <rob@griffpost.co.uk> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:58 AM Subject: [ANS] Arthur WEBB - arrival in Australia > I have tried and failed to find out when Arthur WEBB b. 1885 > Oldbury > Worcestershire, emigrated to Australia. I know that his > parents and > siblings remained in GB so assume he went there alone. He > married Florence > Elizabeth RANKIN at Casino NSW in 1907 and she was born in > Australia. I'd > like to know the vessel and date of his arrival which I again > assume was > Sydney. Hi Rob Findmypasts passenger departures list 2 possible ........ A Mr A WEBB ,bricklayer b 1884. on the Damascus which dep London 2 Aug 1904 and a Mr Webb b 1885 , no occ stated, dep Southampton on the Riverina 10 Oct 1905 If you haven't already done so could be worth checking in the passenger arrival indexes on Qld State Archives web site . Casino is in northern NSW away from the coast. They only had one child, Elsie J in 1907 , Casino . Did they leave Australia? When posting on foreign mailing lists its not a bad idea to give clue to your location ! Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Morning guys I've been doing family history research for over 10 years, but have never done any work on adoptions. Is there anyone on the list with experience reseaching adoptions in NSW who might be able to give me a few tips? Pete

Pete, U.K. and Australia Adoptions Laws began around 1920's...google Australian and or U.K. Adoption Laws..you may get a better time frame. For example we could not follow one family in the U.K. past the Grandfather had his marriage and death certificates but couldn't find a birth...found that he was born under another name..married and died under his step fathers name.. Cheers Wendy W.A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Brien" <pmo2167@gmail.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:21 AM Subject: [ANS] Adoption in Sydney in early 1957 > > I've been doing family history research for over 10 years, but have never > done any work on adoptions.

Dear List I have tried and failed to find out when Arthur WEBB b. 1885 Oldbury Worcestershire, emigrated to Australia. I know that his parents and siblings remained in GB so assume he went there alone. He married Florence Elizabeth RANKIN at Casino NSW in 1907 and she was born in Australia. I'd like to know the vessel and date of his arrival which I again assume was Sydney. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Regards Rob Halesowen GB

----- Original Message ----- From: "Moriah Plastics - Jason Coates" <jasonnola@worldonline.co.za> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:22 PM Subject: [ANS] 1838 Duchess of Northumberland > Can anyone help with a passenger list for the Duchess of > Northumberland > arrival APR 1838? I need to find a Jane Clarke. Perhaps also a > picture of > the vessel and further details? > > Also can anyone point me in the direction of scheme or a > committee of > gentleman to bring in Irish woman of suitable stock at this > time. Was it by > subscription as in modern day Russian mail order brides or was > it just to > "improve" stock. Hi Jason I ,and someone else sent you the passenger list of this ship and this particular voyage yesterday. I also sent you Elizabeth Rushens web site which has a lot of info about the need for more women in the Colony of NSW in the 1830's I dont know whether this particular voyage , unlike its previous2, were at the instigation of any committee . A brief thanks for the info augers better than crossing posting on another mailing list with near enough the same questions Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Jason Both Picture [under images] and passenger list on are on Google www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/duchessofnorth1835.shtml http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=duchess+of+northumberland+1835&hl=en&sa=X& rlz=1W1GGIE_en&biw=1264&bih=724&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=ZIHgLnw5Yz2aqM:&i mgrefurl=http://bugden.bigpondhosting.com/john_bugden_wives.htm&docid=kvIjNS XuGveP3M&imgurl=http://bugden.bigpondhosting.com/Pictures/duchess%252520of%2 52520northumberland%252520(2).jpg&w=577&h=278&ei=3VwOUMdB5a6JB-zjgMgJ&zoom=1 &iact=hc&vpx=490&vpy=177&dur=141&hovh=156&hovw=324&tx=127&ty=96&sig=11282607 9978553840230&page=1&tbnh=103&tbnw=214&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i: 79 Regards Peter O'D Can anyone help with a passenger list for the Duchess of Northumberland arrival APR 1838? I need to find a Jane Clarke. Perhaps also a picture of the vessel and further details?

Can anyone help with a passenger list for the Duchess of Northumberland arrival APR 1838? I need to find a Jane Clarke. Perhaps also a picture of the vessel and further details? Also can anyone point me in the direction of scheme or a committee of gentleman to bring in Irish woman of suitable stock at this time. Was it by subscription as in modern day Russian mail order brides or was it just to "improve" stock. Thanks Jason Coates Johannesburg

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Hi Bev, I'm not totally sure he is my line and thought that there might be something on the original cert (if I do get the one photographed from the register) that might be familiar to me. Laraine -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverley Driver Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012 3:27 PM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] Lidcombe State Hospital Why aren't you using a transcript agent... 1/2 the price Regards Bev Sent from my iPad On 22/07/2012, at 9:25 AM, Laraine Goodworth <laraken@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Bev, > > Thanks for your response. I also have the cd but couldn't find him > there but thanks for looking anyway. > > I was told that this was right person but the last name is different > to what I expected so I've sent for the death cert (another > contribution to the state's coffers, wow, up to $31.AUD now) so that > should probably tell me the burial and hopefully confirm relationship. > > I'm grateful to all those who responded as it's helped with my > decision to just get the certificate. > > Love your signature line re iPad. > . > Thanks again, > Laraine > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverley > Driver > Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012 7:27 PM > To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ANS] Lidcombe State Hospital > > If we have a name it might help as I have the Rookwood cd > > Regards > Bev > Sent from my iPad > > On 21/07/2012, at 4:28 PM, Laraine Goodworth <laraken@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post > any reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post > any reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message