I'd do it for free ... or genealogical societies should have volunteers. M

NEVER Happen. Too expensive Dave On 16/09/2012, at 7:46 AM, Maree <uniimog@internode.on.net> wrote: I hope Australians transcribe them now .. Maree Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hope Australians transcribe them now .. Maree

Hi Patrick, on a death certificate I have for an old lady, it has the informant as being her youngest son. In the notations about her children her eldest child does not receive any mention which may be an indication he died at an early age or the informant did not know of him. It gives two females as being surviving children but it would appear they may be the son's wives as they do not appear to be her offspring on the NSW BDM CD. Following a death, families are grieving and mistakes are sometimes made in what an informant tells the official who is taking down the details. regards Max Bancroft ________________________________ From: Patrick Callaghan <balcolyn@activ8.net.au> To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Errors in NSW Bdms Greetings all I have found many mistakes on death certificates whist searching for burials into the Balmain Catholic cemetery The issue seems to be that the BDM people accept the information they are given, seemingly on the basis that the person giving the information knows  and provides the accurate information, but this seems to not always be the case, especially, in the case of burials I have a number of instances where the death certificate says the burial was into, say, Rookwood, but the cemetery office has no record of that burial and I have concluded that in some cases the information was provided to the BDM by the undertaker and perhaps they did six burials that day and got a few mixed up or perhaps getting it right was not a priority for them In the case of burials I think that the record most likely to be right is the cemetery office and I have accepted them as correct I would always encourage famhis researchers who have a DC saying X cemetery to actually check that they are there, and of course if they are not there, that opens up a real can of worms    where are they???? I think that BDM will alter records if they can be proven to be incorrect, but that is way out of my remit good hunting Patrick Callaghan PS I have now discovered 1003 burials into the Balmain Catholic cemetery and am calling it a day and will publish my work -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alistair Cameron Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012 2:09 PM To: Max Bancroft; aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] Errors in NSW Bdms On 16/09/2012 12:03 PM, Max Bancroft wrote: > I don't think anyone is actually knocking them Marge, but we would like to help them correct their records. Given the green light we should be able to do so fairly speedily. > I find NSW BDM site quite easy to use whereas QLD BDM is unnecessarily difficult. SCOTLAND registers seem immune to alteration. The info as given by the Informant is NOT subject to editing. However, a marginal note headed RCE *******  may appear on some entries. That is a pointer to the shelf ref. and page number which reveals that some person (descendant, quite often) has a major input to the record. RCE is the "Register of Corrected Entries." Maybe NSW could assert the Quality of service by following those Scots!! Bye, Alistair Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert, try this site. http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tips/internet/unblock_email_address_on_blocked_senders_list_outlook_express.php regards Max Bancroft ________________________________ From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012 6:13 PM Subject: [ANS] Reversing "Block Sender"?Re: Errors in NSW Bdms     In "Block Sender" (Outlook Express): I've inadvertently "Blocked" a Sender.     How do I reverse to allow the Sender's Messages to come through?     Robert Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My understanding that that the BDM NSW transcription was contracted to a company that used Manilla {Philipines} labour to do the job.; hence the errors [not recognising sex of person] also errors in spelling of names. My GGF O'Donoghue transcribed O'Donogmue. This can lead to not being able to find your person of interest. Peter O'D Central coast NSW

Hi - we had an interesting transcription error in the NSW BDM for a while. Adelaide Rowohl had been transcribed as Alexander Rowohl... I guess that was fine until said Alexander was described as being married to another man, James S Grant. I finally wrote to them and it was amended very quickly. I suppose same sex marriage was even more out of the question in 1866 than it is now... she was dead within the year though. All very sad. Rosemary

I don't think anyone is actually knocking them Marge, but we would like to help them correct their records. Given the green light we should be able to do so fairly speedily. I find NSW BDM site quite easy to use whereas QLD BDM is unnecessarily difficult. regards Max Bancroft ________________________________    Re : NSW Genealogists have been fortunate over the years  with the NSW Pioneers BDMS 1788-1888 published on CD back in 1992 . There were mistakes in this BUT I am pretty sure this CD was the first attempt to use this invention for this type of data  and we thought it was amazing advance in technology. Then wonder of wonders BDM indexes went on line some 6 years later.  An extra year has been added to the on line indexes on the 1st of January for a few years now . Compare with other States before you knock NSW too much bye           MargM Sydney List Admin Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Six years ago I discovered mistakes in how my grandmother's death is recorded in NSW BDM and notified them of the details. They have still not been corrected. Perhaps they do not have sufficient staff to get it done or maybe they aren't sufficiently interested. Like Dave I'd gladly do it for free regards Max Bancroft ________________________________ From: Dave Aitchison <dave.aitchison@bigpond.com> To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] errors in NSW BDM I did volunteer transcription for the Mariners site, transcribing passenger lists, for a couple of years. That is ALL volunteer work, and what a pleasure it was. If that can be done under the watchful eye of a dedicated 'overseer' at no cost, imagine what could be done by volunteers to other sorts of records. Someone should try it!!! C'mon NSW BDM's!!! Dave A On 16/09/2012, at 8:04 AM, Maree <uniimog@internode.on.net> wrote: I'd do it for free ... or genealogical societies should have volunteers. M Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Remember that these dates are the date of registration not the date of birth. Is there any reason that these two children's births were not registered in the year of their birth and have only recently (ie in 2005) been officially registered? That would also explain how two have the same year of registration. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alistair Cameron" <acameron@hinet.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] NSW Births, Deaths & Marriages Query? > On 14/09/2012 9:24 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: > >> In my researching tonight: I've come up with a query in that I feel >> the >> transcribing of Births for NSW BDM may be incorrect? > > Errors in transcription do occur. Registrars here do make > errors. We should advise the current Registrar of the > apparent error. > > Note! The entry and subsequent Certificates do not purport > to be correct. The "facts" therein are not necessarily true. > If pressed re an error, the Registrar may reply "I CERTIFY > THAT THE RECORD IN QUESTION IS THE INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN." >> >> I was seeking to find children born to a couple: entering the family >> Surname, followed by both the Father's and Mother's Christian names. >> I entered the search period from 1845 - 1911 and up came 4 entries; >> 3 of >> whom I am quite certain are the children being sought. >> 2 children are shown as being Born 2005 and the other as 1906? >> Could it be that someone's made a "Typo"; entering 2005, instead of >> 1905? >> >> I would be most interested to learn if others have found this? > > I once purchased a VIC cert using the info I found in the > official Index. The Index was in error. VIC registrar > apologised for the Index error. Refunded my payment. > > Alistair > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 14/09/2012 9:24 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: > In my researching tonight: I've come up with a query in that I feel the > transcribing of Births for NSW BDM may be incorrect? Errors in transcription do occur. Registrars here do make errors. We should advise the current Registrar of the apparent error. Note! The entry and subsequent Certificates do not purport to be correct. The "facts" therein are not necessarily true. If pressed re an error, the Registrar may reply "I CERTIFY THAT THE RECORD IN QUESTION IS THE INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN." > > I was seeking to find children born to a couple: entering the family > Surname, followed by both the Father's and Mother's Christian names. > I entered the search period from 1845 - 1911 and up came 4 entries; 3 of > whom I am quite certain are the children being sought. > 2 children are shown as being Born 2005 and the other as 1906? > Could it be that someone's made a "Typo"; entering 2005, instead of > 1905? > > I would be most interested to learn if others have found this? I once purchased a VIC cert using the info I found in the official Index. The Index was in error. VIC registrar apologised for the Index error. Refunded my payment. Alistair

In my researching tonight: I've come up with a query in that I feel the transcribing of Births for NSW BDM may be incorrect? I was seeking to find children born to a couple: entering the family Surname, followed by both the Father's and Mother's Christian names. I entered the search period from 1845 - 1911 and up came 4 entries; 3 of whom I am quite certain are the children being sought. 2 children are shown as being Born 2005 and the other as 1906? Could it be that someone's made a "Typo"; entering 2005, instead of 1905? I would be most interested to learn if others have found this? Robert KEMSLEY

----- Original Message ----- From: "wadham.family" <wadham.family@clear.net.nz> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 5:01 PM Subject: [ANS] STANNER family Hunters Hill > Hello, > > I am looking to make contact with descendants of the Stanner > family. James > Stanner was for many years the Post Master at Hunters Hill post > office. > Researching the Stanner family. They arrived in Australia from > Ramsgate Kent > on the Ascendant in 1855, The arrival records show Elizabeth > 37, James 34, > James W 12, Sarah A 9 Stephen 6. Rosa 3 and an infant male born > on the > voyage. > > Hi Peter Not a great many STANNERs about in the records e.g only 5 x STANNERs in the 1980 electoral roll for NSW James STANNER didnt leave a will Is some more info in http://www.mundia.com/au/Search/Results?surname=STANNER&birthPlace=Australia Are 14 in http://www.ryersonindex.org/. Not in Ancestrys Public trees HTH Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Is anyone visiting Kingswood this week I require a print out of a document off a reel from 1903 A Business registration Cathy Dunn

Hello, I am looking to make contact with descendants of the Stanner family. James Stanner was for many years the Post Master at Hunters Hill post office. Researching the Stanner family. They arrived in Australia from Ramsgate Kent on the Ascendant in 1855, The arrival records show Elizabeth 37, James 34, James W 12, Sarah A 9 Stephen 6. Rosa 3 and an infant male born on the voyage. Elizabeth went on to have a Alfred in 1858 and Esther in 1860. Elizabeth died in 1882 Hunters Hill and James died 1884 Camperdown Newtown. James William Married Ellen Curtis in 1865. They had Kate 1866,Mary 1868,Agnes 1870,Mary Josephine 1872 died 1885,Francis James 1874,Joseph 1877,Arthur Michael 1880. James William died in 1903 in St Leonard's I have no further information. Sarah Anne married Paul McKenzie in 1876, This is my line I have some information on them. As always any more would be gratefully received. I have a number of questions to be answered about this branch of the family. Stephen married Ellen Hourn 17 May 1876, They had a daughter in 1880 Rosa married William Fox in 1879. They had William 1889 and Harold 1894 I have no further information. Esther Adelaide Married Frederick James Oulds 10 July 1882 I have no further information. I have no information on the other children, the infant male born on the voyage remains nameless and Alfred I have no information on. If anyone is researching these people or if they know their descendants could they please privately put them into contact with me. Regards Peter Wadham.

On 9/09/2012 5:01 PM, wadham.family wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking to make contact with descendants of the Stanner family. I am not related. As you also cite McKenzie as your line, I advise that I descend from three! unconnected lines so named: in Scots Highlands counties. James > Stanner was for many years the Post Master at Hunters Hill post office. > Researching the Stanner family. They arrived in Australia from Ramsgate Kent > on the Ascendant in 1855, The arrival records show Elizabeth 37, James 34, > James W 12, Sarah A 9 Stephen 6. Rosa 3 and an infant male born on the > voyage. > > Elizabeth went on to have a Alfred in 1858 and Esther in 1860. > > Elizabeth died in 1882 Hunters Hill and James died 1884 Camperdown Newtown. > SAG has a Bankruptcy info source (Govt Gazette) 30 May 1865 for James Stanner in Hunters Hill, email me direct of you want the shelf ref. Bye, Alistair in Bundanoon 2578

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Patrick Callaghan wrote: > I have been using the Ryerson several times almost every day and would > battle without it > Well done Joyce and my sincerest condolences to her family Here Here!! I was a DPS member c. 1993. For me those days were blessed with FIDONET free communications. No colours on screen, no charges! or, very cheap rates, no porn, no Nigerian Letters. Junk mail only rarely. The ISPs were called NODES and some 60,000 plus volunteers around the world handled our <netmail> on their home desktop. Thus I could message rellies overseas much faster than by airmail. Blessed are the Volunteers. A dying race!! it seems...... ALISTAIR M CAMERON > Patrick Callaghan > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Cunningham > Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012 8:18 AM > To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ANS] Vale Joyce Ryerson

I have been using the Ryerson several times almost every day and would battle without it Well done Joyce and my sincerest condolences to her family Patrick Callaghan -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Cunningham Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012 8:18 AM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] Vale Joyce Ryerson Thanks for letting us know.......I used her index many many times over the years. Mary Cunningham née CARTER >> > > She will long be remembered > > Bye > > MargM > List Admin > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post > any reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for letting us know.......I used her index many many times over the years. Mary Cunningham née CARTER >> > > She will long be remembered > > Bye > > MargM > List Admin > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message