Hi Joy Since you have the Reference numbers, I think you (or someone for you) can go to look at the Will packet at NSW State Records at Kingswood - they charge 20c per A4 page for photocopying. Haven't done it myself, but have seen others researching wills. Did you search an online Probate Index for the ref. nos? If so could you tell me where. Best wishes Lyn Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy" <lyko@aanet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [ANS] OBTAINING WILLS > Hi everyone > > My name is Joy Light and I am fairly new to this list and NSW > researching, having most of my families coming from Victoria, where I > live. > > I am wishing to obtain a couple of wills, which I have found the > reference numbers for in the Probate Index. > Is there a cheap way of getting copies of these wills please? > > In Victoria we can go to the Public Record Office and either transcribe > the will ourselves or get it photocopies for about 70c a page. > > The last and only time I ordered a will from NSW, I was charged $56 for > just 6 pages. Now I admit the cover letter came on beautiful paper and > the will was a good photocopy and it was in a nice little display > folder, but I can do without all of that, I just need the information. > At that rate, if I could hire a researcher to go and transcribe them for > me and it would still be cheaper. The other alternative would be if I > could transcribe it myself, would be to get a cheap flight up to Sydney > for the day, and do it myself. > > Any advice would be truly appreciated on the best way to go. > > Regards > > Joy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy" <lyko@aanet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [ANS] OBTAINING WILLS Hi Joy > > My name is Joy Light and I am fairly new to this list > and NSW > researching, having most of my families coming from > Victoria, where I live. > > I am wishing to obtain a couple of wills, which I have > found the > reference numbers for in the Probate Index. > Is there a cheap way of getting copies of these wills > please? > You can get probate packets from NSW State Records, Kingswood 1800 - 1965 for cost of photocopying at .45c per A4 page via a personal visit See http://tinyurl.com/hyqz4 State Records also have deceased estate files 1880 -1958 which were inventories for the assessment of death duty See http://tinyurl.com/e4p7h For there to be either of these docs for any of your ancestors there must be a ref in the NSW Probate indexes . This is a large series of fiche to be found in many libraries . Also this is as cheap as chips to buy from the NSW Supreme Court Also State Records is making inroads with getting the Probate indexes on line via their Archives Investigator part of their web site > go to 'simple search ' type in a name and see what pops up > Any advice would be truly appreciated on the best way to > go. State Records have a copy service for Probate packets but not for DE files Probate packets can have just one sheet of paper to a wonderful assortment of docs on cream vellum with red wax seals ...........are just pot luck Are a few bodies who go to Kingswood and will get copies of docs for others for a small fee . Yell if you would like details FWIW . The SAG have film of NSW wills to about 1900 . You can transcribe from these films but not print just for cost of your time HTH Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Hi Joy, When you find out......please share it with me. Hilda Cooper, Sydney.NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy" <lyko@aanet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [ANS] OBTAINING WILLS > Hi everyone > > My name is Joy Light and I am fairly new to this list and NSW > researching, having most of my families coming from Victoria, where I > live. > > I am wishing to obtain a couple of wills, which I have found the > reference numbers for in the Probate Index. > Is there a cheap way of getting copies of these wills please? > > In Victoria we can go to the Public Record Office and either transcribe > the will ourselves or get it photocopies for about 70c a page. > > The last and only time I ordered a will from NSW, I was charged $56 for > just 6 pages. Now I admit the cover letter came on beautiful paper and > the will was a good photocopy and it was in a nice little display > folder, but I can do without all of that, I just need the information. > At that rate, if I could hire a researcher to go and transcribe them for > me and it would still be cheaper. The other alternative would be if I > could transcribe it myself, would be to get a cheap flight up to Sydney > for the day, and do it myself. > > Any advice would be truly appreciated on the best way to go. > > Regards > > Joy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: 11/17/2006 > >

Hi everyone My name is Joy Light and I am fairly new to this list and NSW researching, having most of my families coming from Victoria, where I live. I am wishing to obtain a couple of wills, which I have found the reference numbers for in the Probate Index. Is there a cheap way of getting copies of these wills please? In Victoria we can go to the Public Record Office and either transcribe the will ourselves or get it photocopies for about 70c a page. The last and only time I ordered a will from NSW, I was charged $56 for just 6 pages. Now I admit the cover letter came on beautiful paper and the will was a good photocopy and it was in a nice little display folder, but I can do without all of that, I just need the information. At that rate, if I could hire a researcher to go and transcribe them for me and it would still be cheaper. The other alternative would be if I could transcribe it myself, would be to get a cheap flight up to Sydney for the day, and do it myself. Any advice would be truly appreciated on the best way to go. Regards Joy

Hi Bill, Thanks for your tip re John Barton. Much appreciated. We family history researchers appreciate your assistance greatly. Cheers Ann Daniel, Qld.

Hi Listers There has been quite a few messages about cemeteries lately and I thought I would put my threepenneth worth into the mix For some years now I have been slowly recreating the burial register for the long disappeared Balmain Catholic cemetery, for which regretably the burial register is also lost. The cemetery was bounded by Allan, William and Elswick Sts in Leichhardt and should not be confused with the nearby cemetery in Norton St. Leichhardt, which is now known as Pioneer Park. I would love to hear from anyone who has someone buried at the Balmain Catholic cemetery or from anyone who has information about re-interments from this place to another cemetery heres hoping Patrick Callaghan

Thank you so much to Kaye, Cathy, Christene, Bill, Marg and Jill. Youve all given me much food for thought, other possible trails to investigate... and inspired me to plan a trip to Sydney! Happy researching one and all. Sue (researching *England, Stoddart, FitzPatrick, Bailey, Brodie*)

Hi Bill Thank you so much for that suggestion. I had not heard of a Probate index before since i am a relative novice to family history research. I'll include that visit to Kingswood on my next trip to Sydney! All the best Sue Bill Shute wrote: > Dear Sue, > Have you checked the NSW Probate Index? > Probate Packets are at State Records KINGSWOOD if he is on it, and > sometimes there is a Death Certificate in the packet.There is always > an Affidavit from someone who knew him well and saw him dead before > burial, which is a proof thing for the Supreme Court. > Sincerely,Bill > >> Hi list, >> >> i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for the following puzzle: >> >> > > > >

Check with the cemetery and make sure it is a grave stone rather than a memorial stone, if it is a grave stone then the cemetery should have the date and place of death and burial date which may help clear up the confusion. Patricia, Australia Hi list, i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for the following puzzle: i have a *Thomas Godfrey ENGLAND * b. St. Lawrences, Sydney, 1854 (Thomas A on old cemetery printout records but definitely Thomas Godfrey acc'd to headstone) d. Parramatta, Sydney, NSW (aged 26 yrs on headstone, but born 1851 accd to bdm register as Thomas G) Buried at Rookwood Cemetery, Sydney (accd to Rookwood Cemetery CD: Thomas Godfrey died 19 Dec 1880) BUT i cant find any reference to his death in the BDM's. This is my last "line" of my family tree to research and that death certificate would be invaluable.. I would be very grateful if anyone could make a suggestion as to why he may not be in the BDM records. Many thanks Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Kaye I had forgotten that I had that website in favourites. I will request a lookup soon. Mary -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kaye vernon Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2006 6:17 PM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] Camperdown Cemetery Mary If you go to the website they have lookups for most cemeteries in NSW. http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/nsw/nsw1.htm#anchor78111 I hope this helps. It is a shame about the state of the inner city I agree, but not much we can do about it. KAye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Cunningham" <mary_cunningham@austarnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Camperdown Cemetery > Hi Liz and List > > It's a wonder we didn't bump into each other as I too visited (St. > Stephens) > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3426 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue England" <suee@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: [ANS] Rookwood CD vs BDM > > *Thomas Godfrey ENGLAND * > > b. St. Lawrences, Sydney, 1854 > d. Parramatta, Sydney, NSW (aged 26 yrs on headstone, > but born 1851 accd > to bdm register as Thomas G) > > Buried at Rookwood Cemetery, Sydney (accd to Rookwood > Cemetery CD: > Thomas Godfrey died 19 Dec 1880) > > BUT i cant find any reference to his death in the BDM's. > This is my last > "line" of my family tree to research and that death > certificate would > be invaluable.. > > I would be very grateful if anyone could make a > suggestion as to why he > may not be in the BDM records. Hi Sue Probably just human error Did you notice in the ref #s to find his grave .......... Old E of E , area C row 10 graves 433-436 transcripton number 92274 With all of the SAGs CDs if you go back to start and just type in the transcription # > search you often get a surprise ! There are 8 x ENGLANDs in these graves Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

May I ask how clear the headstone was...when it was read for transcription ? It is possible that there is an error in the transcription I have Andrew and eliaz McGrath wiht 5 children and that is all that shows on the death cert and all the bdm that I can find but the transcription reads departing leacing 11 children to mourn her death,,,deffiinately not married before etc Christene

Thanks Bill! Mary -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Shute Sent: Friday, 17 November 2006 6:07 AM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] Camperdown Cemetery Dear Mary, I believe the Society of Australian Genealogists have records relating to Camperdown. Sincerely,Bill > Hi Liz and List > > It's a wonder we didn't bump into each other as I too visited (St. > Stephens) > Camperdown Cemetery this week while my dad was in RPAH. The whole of that ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006

Dear Mary, I believe the Society of Australian Genealogists have records relating to Camperdown. Sincerely,Bill > Hi Liz and List > > It's a wonder we didn't bump into each other as I too visited (St. > Stephens) > Camperdown Cemetery this week while my dad was in RPAH. The whole of that

Dear Sue, Have you checked the NSW Probate Index? Probate Packets are at State Records KINGSWOOD if he is on it, and sometimes there is a Death Certificate in the packet.There is always an Affidavit from someone who knew him well and saw him dead before burial, which is a proof thing for the Supreme Court. Sincerely,Bill > Hi list, > > i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for the following puzzle: > >

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Hi Louise, I am back to you through Mary's email. I am nearly going bananas. I can't even click onto the email that came in from you. I don't hold with downloading these things and I am always so suspicious of them. But I just thought I would give this one a go. I am just so angry with myself for getting sucked in. I have been away in Tasmania for a week looking at a property to buy and I have a bit of work to do on the computer. Now I've put the 'kybosh' on that. I will just turn the darned thing off before I blow a 'foo-foo valve'. Hilda.

Hi Kaye, I downloaded SPAMfighter and now I have lost my 'create mail' 'reply' and 'forward' facilities. I have tried to unsubscribe from SPAMfighter and I have tried to delete it from my computer and I can't get rid of it. Now I will have to get my techno-man to come and unravel my computer for me. Please, anyone who is thinking of downloading/installing it, be very aware that you may have problems. The only way that I could send this email was to click onto the above address on Mary's email. Hilda Cooper, Sydney.

Mary If you go to the website they have lookups for most cemeteries in NSW. http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/nsw/nsw1.htm#anchor78111 I hope this helps. It is a shame about the state of the inner city I agree, but not much we can do about it. KAye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Cunningham" <mary_cunningham@austarnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Camperdown Cemetery > Hi Liz and List > > It's a wonder we didn't bump into each other as I too visited (St. > Stephens) > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3426 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

I have one ancestor who was not registered, the only way I found his date of death was a call to Rookwood cemetery and they gave me the exact date. I had bdm do an extensive search but they could not find him. So it does happen. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue England" <suee@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: [ANS] Rookwood CD vs BDM > Hi list, > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3426 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com