Hi Helen, I think it was around 1970. My husband worked for the SRA for 20 years as a wagon builder and he retired in 1989. Hilda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Turner" <helen.turner@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Hello Hilda, > Would you please tell me when was the Indian Pacific railway built? > regards, > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Hayward" <adsl4805@tsn.cc> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > > >> The Indian Pacific does go west Hilda. Sydney, Lithgow, Orange, Dubbo >> and >> Broken Hill, the train stops at Lithgow and Broken Hill to pick up and >> put >> down passengers before going onto Adelaide. >> Patricia, Australia >> >> >> >> Could someone correct me if I am wrong but...........I don't think the >> Indian Pacific goes to Perth via Melbourne. My late husband helped >> build >> the Indian Pacific and I always thought it went out west......via Broken >> Hill. Hilda. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maureen" <maureen@autoinspirations.com.au> >> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:07 AM >> Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >> >> >>> Hi Louise and all, >>> >>> Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the "Spirit >>> of >>> Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I >>> went >>> the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and >>> drinks. >>> I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my >>> hungry >>> lot!! >>> >>> Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, >>> economy >>> and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant >>> comes >>> around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your >>> meal >>> is >>> ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at >>> all >>> these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. >>> >>> What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the >>> Indian >>> Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains >>> we've >>> seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the >>> aisle. >>> I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class >>> distinction >>> than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. >>> >>> Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the old >>> carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to >>> Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year >>> would >>> have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' A >>> long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via a >>> door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other >>> and >>> I >>> think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by >>> lifting >>> one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, >>> getting >>> stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from >>> Townsville >>> (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the >>> station >>> so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could >>> sleep >>> on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke >>> up >>> as >>> they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an experience!! >>> >>> Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me >>> away!! >>> >>> Cheers, Maureen >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> >>> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM >>> Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >>> >>> >>>> Good evening all, >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are >>>> amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... >>>> >>>> We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we >>>> travelled >>>> up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a >>>> daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that >>>> was >>>> the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured >>>> train. >>>> >>>> We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a >>>> carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. >>>> My >>>> partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, >>>> Personally, >>>> I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he >>>> is >>>> 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. >>>> He >>>> is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. >>>> >>>> We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may >>>> have been wishful thinking. >>>> >>>> Any advice would be welcome. >>>> >>>> Louise >>>> Melbourne >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: >>>> 1/8/2007 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 > >

The Southern Aurora was the silver train (which is now operating under the guise of the NSW Rail Transport Museum - Heritage Express -- check their web site) and the blue train was the Spirit of Progress. The Southern Aurora was a 1st Class Sleeper train, the Spirit of Progress was the 2nd class (or later Economy class) service. The Southern Aurora had the dining car with table service. The Spirit of Progress had the "bar" table as did the daylight service "Intercapital Daylight Express". The Aurora and Spirit were amalgamated as one train in the mid 1980's, when there were the 2 types of dining cars on the one service (blue and silver cars). John Armstrong

Hi Liz, I am descended from Henry Curtis and Jane Walker and have attached a file showing my line of descent. I also have a Norfolk island connection being descended from Andrew Fishburn, one of the marines during the First Settlement. I would love to exchange information with you. Jennie Matheson (nee Bellamy) Liz McCoy wrote: >Hi all, >I noticed the posting on Christina Curtis.... >My interest is in the Curtis family, from >Henry Curtis >Bn 1780 Wiltshire >Arrived Aust Glatton 1803 >D 1853 West Pennant Hills Sydney >M. Jane Walker >would love to hear from anyone with this man in their tree, >thanks all >cheers >Liz >Norfolk Island > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of waycol >Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 8:09 PM >To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ANS] CURTIS Christina > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Liz, I am descended from Henry Curtis and Jane Walker and have attached a file showing my line of descent. I also have a Norfolk island connection being descended from Andrew Fishburn, one of the marines during the First Settlement. I would love to exchange information with you. Jennie Matheson (nee Bellamy) Liz McCoy wrote: >Hi all, >I noticed the posting on Christina Curtis.... >My interest is in the Curtis family, from >Henry Curtis >Bn 1780 Wiltshire >Arrived Aust Glatton 1803 >D 1853 West Pennant Hills Sydney >M. Jane Walker >would love to hear from anyone with this man in their tree, >thanks all >cheers >Liz >Norfolk Island > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of waycol >Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 8:09 PM >To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ANS] CURTIS Christina > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi All, Surname: O'REILLY Any info on the following people gratefully received: SYLVESTER F(rancis?) PATRICK O'REILLY: b. 01/07/1895, Goulburn, NSW; d 14/06/1952, Surry Hills, NSW. His wife: ROSE O'REILLY, nee GOSLING: b Bristol, UK 1895; d 10/08/1989, Daceyville, NSW. Their children are believed to be: SYLVESTER PATRICK O'REILLY: b 28/10/1917, Bristol UK; WILLIAM JOSEPH O'REILLY: b 14/03/1921, Randwick, NSW; d approx 30/10/1941, Burwood, Sydney; And possibly: PATRICIA O'REILLY; & KENNETH (FRANCIS?) O'REILLY (who may have married Elizabeth Elaine LIVINGSTONE in Waverley, NSW in 1950); There may also be one or more other children of Sylvester & Rose. ************************************************************ The siblings of Sylvester F(rancis) Patrick O'REILLY are: EDWARD 1880 - 1945 JOSEPH PATRICK 1881-1882 AGNES C E 1882 -? (married Archibald G CHAPMAN, 1912, Sydney) BRIDGET M 1885 - ? (married James A ANSCOMBE, 1910, Sydney) ANN 1887 - ? THOMAS BERNARD 1887 - 1963 JOHN PATRICK 1890 - 1940 WILLIAM J 1893 - 1904 All born in Goulburn, NSW. The parents of the above and Sylvester F P O'Reilly, were John (Patrick?)O'Reilly and Martha Logan, married 1879, Goulburn, NSW. I can't find any birth record in NSW for Martha, so it's probable at least she, and possibly also John, were Irish immigrants. If that rings any bells with anyone, please get in touch. ******************************************************** My mother (who's 81 and still going strong) is the niece of Rose Gosling, so if possible, I would especially like to find where Rose O'Reilly is buried, and also the rest of the O'Reillys, if their graves are known. If anyone comes across any of the graves and could take a photo or two, it would really be appreciated. I live in Tiverton, Devon, UK, so it's a bit far to come to look for myself - but hey, any excuse for a holiday...! Thanks for any help you can give, and apologies if the above seems a bit like War & Peace! Phil Curtis

Thank you Hilda. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilda Cooper" <wynford@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Hi Helen, > Sorry that should read........he retired in 1987. Hilda. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hilda Cooper" <wynford@westnet.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:42 PM > Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > > >> Hi Helen, >> I think it was around 1970. My husband worked for the SRA for 20 years >> as >> a >> wagon builder and he retired in 1989. Hilda >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Helen Turner" <helen.turner@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >> >> >>> Hello Hilda, >>> Would you please tell me when was the Indian Pacific railway built? >>> regards, >>> Helen >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Patricia Hayward" <adsl4805@tsn.cc> >>> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >>> >>> >>>> The Indian Pacific does go west Hilda. Sydney, Lithgow, Orange, Dubbo >>>> and >>>> Broken Hill, the train stops at Lithgow and Broken Hill to pick up and >>>> put >>>> down passengers before going onto Adelaide. >>>> Patricia, Australia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Could someone correct me if I am wrong but...........I don't think the >>>> Indian Pacific goes to Perth via Melbourne. My late husband helped >>>> build >>>> the Indian Pacific and I always thought it went out west......via >>>> Broken >>>> Hill. Hilda. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Maureen" <maureen@autoinspirations.com.au> >>>> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:07 AM >>>> Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Louise and all, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the >>>>> "Spirit >>>>> of >>>>> Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I >>>>> went >>>>> the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and >>>>> drinks. >>>>> I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my >>>>> hungry >>>>> lot!! >>>>> >>>>> Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, >>>>> economy >>>>> and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant >>>>> comes >>>>> around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your >>>>> meal >>>>> is >>>>> ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at >>>>> all >>>>> these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. >>>>> >>>>> What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the >>>>> Indian >>>>> Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains >>>>> we've >>>>> seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the >>>>> aisle. >>>>> I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class >>>>> distinction >>>>> than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. >>>>> >>>>> Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the >>>>> old >>>>> carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to >>>>> Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year >>>>> would >>>>> have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' >>>>> A >>>>> long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via >>>>> a >>>>> door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other >>>>> and >>>>> I >>>>> think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by >>>>> lifting >>>>> one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, >>>>> getting >>>>> stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from >>>>> Townsville >>>>> (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the >>>>> station >>>>> so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could >>>>> sleep >>>>> on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke >>>>> up >>>>> as >>>>> they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an >>>>> experience!! >>>>> >>>>> Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me >>>>> away!! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Maureen >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> >>>>> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM >>>>> Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Good evening all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are >>>>>> amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... >>>>>> >>>>>> We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we >>>>>> travelled >>>>>> up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a >>>>>> daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that >>>>>> was >>>>>> the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured >>>>>> train. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall >>>>>> a >>>>>> carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. >>>>>> My >>>>>> partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, >>>>>> Personally, >>>>>> I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he >>>>>> is >>>>>> 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his >>>>>> youth. >>>>>> He >>>>>> is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. >>>>>> >>>>>> We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that >>>>>> may >>>>>> have been wishful thinking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice would be welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Louise >>>>>> Melbourne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>> without >>>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: >>>>>> 1/8/2007 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: >>>>> 1/8/2007 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Hilda, Would you please tell me when was the Indian Pacific railway built? regards, Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hayward" <adsl4805@tsn.cc> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > The Indian Pacific does go west Hilda. Sydney, Lithgow, Orange, Dubbo and > Broken Hill, the train stops at Lithgow and Broken Hill to pick up and put > down passengers before going onto Adelaide. > Patricia, Australia > > > > Could someone correct me if I am wrong but...........I don't think the > Indian Pacific goes to Perth via Melbourne. My late husband helped build > the Indian Pacific and I always thought it went out west......via Broken > Hill. Hilda. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maureen" <maureen@autoinspirations.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:07 AM > Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > > >> Hi Louise and all, >> >> Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the "Spirit >> of >> Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I >> went >> the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and >> drinks. >> I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my >> hungry >> lot!! >> >> Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, economy >> and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant >> comes >> around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your meal >> is >> ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at >> all >> these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. >> >> What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the >> Indian >> Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains >> we've >> seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the >> aisle. >> I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class >> distinction >> than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. >> >> Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the old >> carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to >> Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year >> would >> have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' A >> long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via a >> door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other and >> I >> think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by lifting >> one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, >> getting >> stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from >> Townsville >> (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the >> station >> so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could >> sleep >> on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke up >> as >> they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an experience!! >> >> Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me away!! >> >> Cheers, Maureen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> >> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM >> Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >> >> >>> Good evening all, >>> >>> Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are >>> amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... >>> >>> We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we travelled >>> up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a >>> daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that was >>> the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured >>> train. >>> >>> We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a >>> carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. >>> My >>> partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, >>> Personally, >>> I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he is >>> 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. >>> He >>> is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. >>> >>> We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may >>> have been wishful thinking. >>> >>> Any advice would be welcome. >>> >>> Louise >>> Melbourne >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you to Mary and to all the other people who've suggested how to find my missing Keegan family. Good news - I have just spoken to Jack Keegan on the telephone! I think there's going to be a lot of mail between houses! Cheers, Di >From: "Mary Cunningham" <mary_cunningham@austarnet.com.au> >Reply-To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com >To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [ANS] KEEGAN family - SYDNEY >Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:34:29 +1000 > >Hi Di > >If you think that some of them may still be living why not try having a >look >at the online phone directory at www.whitepages.com.au > >Easier to find the males of course, but then they could tell you the >married >names of the females. > >Or you could try a cemetery search for them, to eliminate who is still >alive >and who is not. > >Regards >Mary > >-----Original Message----- >From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SPECTRA r >Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 9:11 PM >To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com; AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ANS] KEEGAN family - SYDNEY > >Hi list, > >I'm trying to trace the following KEEGAN siblings whose parents were Henry >James Keegan and Doris Esmond BABINGTON. I believe they could all still be >living. > >Noela ?, Jack, Terry, Peter, Judith and Margaret. They would have been >born > >after about 1923. They were all living at the time of their father's death >in 1973. The family is known to have lived at Jannali, Sutherland and >Caringbah. > >Henry's mother Bertha Maude (nee Bowman) was my great-aunt. > >Could anyone who knows this family please contact me. > >Many thanks, >Di > >_________________________________________________________________ >Advertisement: Amazing holiday rentals? >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eninemsn%2Erealestate%2 >Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dhol%26cu%3DMSN&_t=758874163& >_r=HM_Txt_Link_Holiday_Oct06&_m=EXT > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 7/01/2007 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 7/01/2007 > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: 50% off on Xbox 360, PS and Nintendo Wii titles! http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-4lab-71-bn-49-en-84-k-40-extended.html

Aha! Louise, Besides doing Family History i also am a Train buff and collect Australian Railway Magazines, Than goodness for a room set aside for this ! My records show that to Melbourne The" Southern Auroa" had two Carriges set aside for feeding the Passengers one with a counter for the cheap fares and the other for the more excutive fares. In the early days of Train travel to Melbourne there would be a stop at Albury due to Differant size tracks and when the tracks were made the same all the way to Melbourne Sleeping cars were added. See how this goes ? John T. Brown Sutherland Sydney NSW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Good evening all, > > Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... > > We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we travelled up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that was the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured train. > > We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. My partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, Personally, I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he is 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. He is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. > > We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may have been wishful thinking. > > Any advice would be welcome. > > Louise > Melbourne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 8/01/2007 4:12 PM > >

G'day Louise, I'm very interested in the BATTY name at both Reynolds Street and Adolphus Street, and HARRISON at Reynolds Street, and DAVIDSON at Smith Street. The Batty family was well-known in Balmain for Thomas Batty (1827-1894) owned a considerable area of land in the area that now includes Batty Street. Thomas' daughter Clara Batty married Arthur HARRISON in 1881 and they lived at 76 Reynolds Street. Similarly, Thomas' daughter Ada Batty married George DAVIDSON in 1894 and they lived at 65 Smith Street Rozelle. I have considerable information on these families including photos of most of them, if anyone is interested. Thanks for your kind offer to share your information. Phil Young Glebe NSW -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louise Reynolds Sent: Sunday, 7 January 2007 10:41 PM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANS] Leichhardt/Balmain area - some names from 1890s Hello all, Following on from my last posts, I have in my possession an account book, running (on and off), from March 1882 to about 1948. This amazing family document lists a number of names, and if any of these look promising, please contact me and I will provide details. George HALFKNIGHT (1895 - wages) C. ROHMAN (1895 - wages) Matt. BURROWS (1895 - wages) Mrs. A. BATTY, Reynolds St, Balmain - 1894. Contract for terrace. Mr BACKHOUSE, Darling (or Darley) St. - painting and decorating Mrs. DAVIDSON - Smith St - 1895 Mr PROCTOR, Gladstone St, 1895 Mrs HARRISON, Reynolds St, Balmain - 1895 Miss BLISS - Butchers' Shop, Balmain - 1895 Mr BACKHOUSE - Belmore St - 1895 Mrs HARRISON, Clayton St - 1895 Mr FANNING, House & Shop - The Boulevarde Mrs DAVIDSON - terrace, Anne (??) St, Balmain, 1895 Mr A BATTY - Cottages, Adolphus St, Balmain, 1897 Mr A PETTIT Esq - The Cave, Croyden Ave. 1902 Mr ISRAEL - 5 houses, Clifton Reserve, Crown St Mrs McGILVRAY, Balmain Mr FLEMING, Harris Park (Summer Hill Job) Mr TURNER, Boulevarde, Leichardt Mr W. RICHMOND - May 1921 Regards Louise Reynolds Melbourne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Train travel has always been interesting. I can remember the old "Dog Boxes" also being used on the North West Mail and the like. The "Spirit of Progress" was Blue and ran from Sydney as a second division of the "Southern Aurora". I think you would find that the "Spirit of Progress" was a Victorian train that ran from Melbourne to Albury when there were 2 different railway gauges, and was converted to the NSW standard gauge when the line went through in the early 60s. Peter

Hi Marie, It's true though, that it is cheaper to fly but so much more friendly and nostalgic to travel by train. I would love to go across on the Indian Pacific. I guess it is Australia's 'Orient Express'. But finances don't allow. Ah well. I will just go and put my videos on and watch them. I have steam and deisel and when I put the steam train videos on, I swear to God I can smell them. But the love of my life is and always will be the 3801. Hilda. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Young" <heartseas@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Hilda you are right. The Indian Pacific does through Broken Hill to > Adelaide > and then to Perth. I have been on the Indian Pacific a couple of times. > I > found it great. > In the "sit up" compartments there were people doing all kinds of craft > work. It was a real working bee, women knitting, crocheting doing cross > stitch and men playing cards and others with their children and > grandchildren playing all kinds of games. It was a friendly atmosphere and > when we got near the Border of NSW and SA everyone was handing out their > spare fruit to other people so it could be eaten before the border > otherwise > it would have been taken off them. > Marie > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 > >

Hilda you are right. The Indian Pacific does through Broken Hill to Adelaide and then to Perth. I have been on the Indian Pacific a couple of times. I found it great. In the "sit up" compartments there were people doing all kinds of craft work. It was a real working bee, women knitting, crocheting doing cross stitch and men playing cards and others with their children and grandchildren playing all kinds of games. It was a friendly atmosphere and when we got near the Border of NSW and SA everyone was handing out their spare fruit to other people so it could be eaten before the border otherwise it would have been taken off them. Marie

The Indian Pacific goes from Sydney, Adelaide on to Perth, not down to Melbourne. The old Transcontinental (spelling) was the other connection from the East to West, going from Adelaide to Perth. The Indian Pacific would take about three days to do the trip in the 1970's and the Trans would take two days. Not sure how long rail takes these days. Flying is quicker and cheaper these days. Lesley

Thanks Girls, I was beginning to think I was cracking up completely. Hilda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hayward" <adsl4805@tsn.cc> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > The Indian Pacific does go west Hilda. Sydney, Lithgow, Orange, Dubbo and > Broken Hill, the train stops at Lithgow and Broken Hill to pick up and put > down passengers before going onto Adelaide. > Patricia, Australia > > > > Could someone correct me if I am wrong but...........I don't think the > Indian Pacific goes to Perth via Melbourne. My late husband helped build > the Indian Pacific and I always thought it went out west......via Broken > Hill. Hilda. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maureen" <maureen@autoinspirations.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:07 AM > Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > > >> Hi Louise and all, >> >> Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the "Spirit >> of >> Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I >> went >> the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and >> drinks. >> I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my >> hungry >> lot!! >> >> Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, economy >> and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant >> comes >> around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your meal >> is >> ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at >> all >> these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. >> >> What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the >> Indian >> Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains >> we've >> seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the >> aisle. >> I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class >> distinction >> than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. >> >> Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the old >> carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to >> Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year >> would >> have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' A >> long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via a >> door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other and >> I >> think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by lifting >> one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, >> getting >> stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from >> Townsville >> (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the >> station >> so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could >> sleep >> on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke up >> as >> they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an experience!! >> >> Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me away!! >> >> Cheers, Maureen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> >> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM >> Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >> >> >>> Good evening all, >>> >>> Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are >>> amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... >>> >>> We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we travelled >>> up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a >>> daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that was >>> the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured >>> train. >>> >>> We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a >>> carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. >>> My >>> partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, >>> Personally, >>> I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he is >>> 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. >>> He >>> is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. >>> >>> We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may >>> have been wishful thinking. >>> >>> Any advice would be welcome. >>> >>> Louise >>> Melbourne >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >

Hi Hilda, You're correct. The Indian Pacific didn't go Sydney via Melbourne to Perth. Just reminiscing about dining cars!! Sorry for the confusion. Cheers, Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilda Cooper" <wynford@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Could someone correct me if I am wrong but...........I don't think the > Indian Pacific goes to Perth via Melbourne. My late husband helped build > the Indian Pacific and I always thought it went out west......via Broken > Hill. Hilda. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maureen" <maureen@autoinspirations.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:07 AM > Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > > >> Hi Louise and all, >> >> Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the "Spirit >> of >> Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I >> went >> the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and >> drinks. >> I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my >> hungry >> lot!! >> >> Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, economy >> and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant >> comes >> around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your meal >> is >> ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at >> all >> these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. >> >> What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the >> Indian >> Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains >> we've >> seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the >> aisle. >> I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class >> distinction >> than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. >> >> Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the old >> carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to >> Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year >> would >> have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' A >> long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via a >> door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other and >> I >> think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by lifting >> one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, >> getting >> stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from >> Townsville >> (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the >> station >> so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could >> sleep >> on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke up >> as >> they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an experience!! >> >> Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me away!! >> >> Cheers, Maureen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> >> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM >> Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne >> >> >>> Good evening all, >>> >>> Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are >>> amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... >>> >>> We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we travelled >>> up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a >>> daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that was >>> the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured >>> train. >>> >>> We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a >>> carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. >>> My >>> partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, >>> Personally, >>> I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he is >>> 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. >>> He >>> is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. >>> >>> We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may >>> have been wishful thinking. >>> >>> Any advice would be welcome. >>> >>> Louise >>> Melbourne >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 > >

The Indian Pacific does go west Hilda. Sydney, Lithgow, Orange, Dubbo and Broken Hill, the train stops at Lithgow and Broken Hill to pick up and put down passengers before going onto Adelaide. Patricia, Australia Could someone correct me if I am wrong but...........I don't think the Indian Pacific goes to Perth via Melbourne. My late husband helped build the Indian Pacific and I always thought it went out west......via Broken Hill. Hilda. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen" <maureen@autoinspirations.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Hi Louise and all, > > Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the "Spirit of > Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I went > the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and > drinks. > I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my > hungry > lot!! > > Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, economy > and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant > comes > around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your meal > is > ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at all > these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. > > What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the > Indian > Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains > we've > seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the > aisle. > I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class distinction > than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. > > Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the old > carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to > Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year > would > have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' A > long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via a > door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other and > I > think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by lifting > one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, > getting > stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from > Townsville > (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the station > so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could > sleep > on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke up > as > they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an experience!! > > Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me away!! > > Cheers, Maureen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM > Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > > >> Good evening all, >> >> Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are >> amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... >> >> We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we travelled >> up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a >> daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that was >> the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured >> train. >> >> We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a >> carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. My >> partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, Personally, >> I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he is >> 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. >> He >> is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. >> >> We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may >> have been wishful thinking. >> >> Any advice would be welcome. >> >> Louise >> Melbourne >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone correct me if I am wrong but...........I don't think the Indian Pacific goes to Perth via Melbourne. My late husband helped build the Indian Pacific and I always thought it went out west......via Broken Hill. Hilda. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen" <maureen@autoinspirations.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Hi Louise and all, > > Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the "Spirit of > Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I went > the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and > drinks. > I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my > hungry > lot!! > > Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, economy > and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant > comes > around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your meal > is > ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at all > these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. > > What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the > Indian > Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains > we've > seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the > aisle. > I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class distinction > than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. > > Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the old > carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to > Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year > would > have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' A > long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via a > door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other and > I > think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by lifting > one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, > getting > stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from > Townsville > (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the station > so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could > sleep > on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke up > as > they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an experience!! > > Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me away!! > > Cheers, Maureen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM > Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > > >> Good evening all, >> >> Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are >> amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... >> >> We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we travelled >> up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a >> daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that was >> the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured >> train. >> >> We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a >> carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. My >> partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, Personally, >> I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he is >> 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. >> He >> is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. >> >> We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may >> have been wishful thinking. >> >> Any advice would be welcome. >> >> Louise >> Melbourne >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 > >

Hi Louise and all, Sorry I don't think I'm going to be of much help. I caught the "Spirit of Progress" in the early 70s, but travelling with four small children I went the cheapest possible route - 2nd class seats and a bag of food and drinks. I don't think I even saw the dining facilities, wouldn't dare with my hungry lot!! Recent trips (last year and 2005) I travelled on the night train, economy and 1st class, and they announce the meals to chose from, an attendant comes around and takes your order, and then another announcement that your meal is ready, you pick it up and take it back to your seat. Nothing fancy at all these days. The same on the Sydney to Brisbane trips. What your partner experienced sounds like the 1st class dining on the Indian Pacific. Very much in the vogue of the old-fashioned European trains we've seen in movies - you almost expect Hercule Poirot to saunter down the aisle. I do think, however, that in the 60s there was more of a class distinction than there is today. So sorry again Louise, I can't help. Now, if we're talking old trains and Rod would probably remember the old carriages they called 'dog boxes.' I remember going with my aunt to Coonamble when I was about 3 or 4 (definitely pre school), so the year would have been about 1944/45 and we travelled in one of these 'dog boxes.' A long carriage, but with individual 'boxes' one could only get into via a door that opened onto the platform. Long seats that faced each other and I think the toilet facility was behind a panel that was accessed by lifting one of the seats and opening a door. Another train trip I remember, getting stranded around midnight in Brisbane in 1976 on my way home from Townsville (definitely 2nd class!) and they shunted an old 'dog box' into the station so that the passengers who had missed their connection to Sydney could sleep on the seats. Someone came around about 6am the next morning and woke up as they had to shunt the train away from the station. What an experience!! Sorry folks, it all comes flooding back. Must be my age giving me away!! Cheers, Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: [ANS] Trains from Sydney to Melbourne > Good evening all, > > Perhaps someone can help me on this. I know people on this list are > amazing for this sort of thing....Maureen, you must know.... > > We moved from Sydney to Melbourne in 1968. As I recall it, we travelled > up to Sydney in the holidays on the "Spirit of Progress" which was a > daytime train. You could also do an overnight trip and I think that was > the "Southern Aurora". Am I right? One of these was a blue coloured > train. > > We are arguing here at home tonight about the "dining car". I recall a > carriage with a long formica counter-top, serving chicken curry, etc. My > partner remembers individual clothed tables. Who is right?, Personally, > I think he has been watching too many James Bond films....However, he is > 14 years older than me, and it might have been different in his youth. He > is maintaining there was no 1st/2nd class dining car differentiation. > > We both think we were travelling in 1st class at the time, but that may > have been wishful thinking. > > Any advice would be welcome. > > Louise > Melbourne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 > >

Hi all, I noticed the posting on Christina Curtis.... My interest is in the Curtis family, from Henry Curtis Bn 1780 Wiltshire Arrived Aust Glatton 1803 D 1853 West Pennant Hills Sydney M. Jane Walker would love to hear from anyone with this man in their tree, thanks all cheers Liz Norfolk Island -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of waycol Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 8:09 PM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANS] CURTIS Christina