Ailsa, There is a record of headstone inscriptions for Rookwood - initially published in 1988 on fiche and re-issued two or three years ago on CD, by SAG (Society of Australian Genealogists) in Sydney. There is no entry for Clara Williamson Alison :-) Sydney Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ailsa Petrie wrote: >Good evening list, > >I have just received a copy of the death registration for my gt aunt, >Clara WILLIAMSON. She died 13 November 1932 at her residence, 33 Murray >Street Croyden, in the municipality of Burwood and was buried in the >Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood. > >I would like to know if there headstone inscriptions available for this >cemetery, or if anyone could have a look for me and maybe photograph any >headstone that might be there. > >It seems that Clara had only one son, Alexander, who was an architect in >Sydney. It's also possible that he never married, but until I send for >his death reg, I won't know. > > >

Greetings List Is anyone researching the Armit family of Balmain, I am especially interested in Charles Armit who died in December 1880, but also Therese and James Armit Happy to swap info with other researchers Patrick Callaghan

Hi Gary This is being debated at the moment in the NEW ZEALAND list - I would suggest reading the archives there and joining the list to follow it or contribute. There are many links including one to the pdf file of the draft bill. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NZL/NEW-ZEALAND.html On 1 Mar 2007 at 20:31, Gary Luke wrote: > > A bill is being debated in New Zealand parliament which could > restrict access for genealogists and historians to records of births, > deaths and marriages.. It's to stop identity fraud, but could have > other implications. > > Does anyone here have more detailed information about it? > > > Gary > > > > _________________________________ > Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au > Sydney, Australia > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BFN OOROO Michelle ============== http://au.geocities.com/patientgenie/

Hello All. I am writing to introduce a free map website displaying high quality scans of rare 19th century maps of Australia. The site is: MAPCO : Map And Plan Collection Online http://archivemaps.com An 1926 map of Sydney has just been displayed on the site: Map Of Sydney Harbour And Surrounding Districts, New South Wales, Showing Reserves On The Foreshores Of The Harbour Available To The Public For Recreation, With Access Thereto, And Other Reserves Within The Scope Of The Map. 6th Edition. http://archivemaps.com/mapco/sydneyhar/sydney.htm The 13 Australian items currently displayed are at: Australian State and City Maps http://archivemaps.com/mapco/aust.htm Wyld's map of Australia c1858 will be of great interest to researchers, and the 1830s plans of Adelaide will be of particular interest to South Australian researchers. Early maps of Sydney (1854), Victoria (1855, 1862, & c1880), Melbourne (foundation to c1920), Geelong, and various 19th century maps of Australia will be added in the near future. Some of these maps can be previewed on the Australian Maps page. MAPCO's aim is to provide genealogists, students and historians with free access to high quality scans of rare and beautiful antique maps and views. The site displays collectable 18th, 19th and early 20th century maps and plans, with an emphasis on early maps of Australia, London, and the British Isles. There are currently 13 high quality Australian items on display, along with 26 maps of London, plus several highly detailed maps of England, Scotland, and several English counties. The site will eventually display over 100 high quality maps, plans, and views. These maps are a wonderful resource for family history research. MAPCO is a free access website, and will remain so. I do hope that you find the site useful. Enjoy these beautiful maps! Kind regards, David Hale, Adelaide, South Australia. MAPCO : Map And Plan Collection Online http://archivemaps.com

A bill is being debated in New Zealand parliament which could restrict access for genealogists and historians to records of births, deaths and marriages.. It's to stop identity fraud, but could have other implications. Does anyone here have more detailed information about it? Gary _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

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Hi Judy Cant be much help I am afraid, my interest is mainly in the Kellehers of Balmain, one of whom was buried in the Balmain catholic cemetery and later exhumed and re-interred at Rookwood. The Kellehers have a large grave site at Rookwood ( three or four graves) and quite a lot of them are buried there, right up to the 1960's and 70's I thnk and that may be of some use to you The grave site is old Catholic mortuary Sect. AA graves 764,765.766 and 766.5 A phone call to the Catholic office at Rookwood might be a good starting point. There seem to have been several families if Kellehers in balmain in the timescale I am interested in Good Hunting Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <judyjc@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Kelleher Family of Balmain > Hi Patrick > I have a Eleanor Mary Kelleher born around 1925 marrying a Harry Edward Crew > in 1949 in Auburn. I know this is not your time span of 1860 - 1900 but I am > just wondering if there is a connection. Her parents would have probably > been born around 1900. Unfortunately I don't have any info at this stage > about her parents. > Regards > Judy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patrick callaghan" <pca96504@bigpond.net.au> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:31 PM > Subject: [ANS] Kelleher Family of Balmain > > > > Greetings Listers > > Is anyone researching the Kelleher family of Balmain in the period from > > about 1860 to 1900 > > I would love to swap notes > > Patrick Callaghan > > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would any lister be researching the STRATTON (sometimes STRATTEN) family in the c1880 - 1925+ time frame. They mostly resided in the Woollahra, Paddington area Kevin Central Qld

Hi Patrick I have a Eleanor Mary Kelleher born around 1925 marrying a Harry Edward Crew in 1949 in Auburn. I know this is not your time span of 1860 - 1900 but I am just wondering if there is a connection. Her parents would have probably been born around 1900. Unfortunately I don't have any info at this stage about her parents. Regards Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrick callaghan" <pca96504@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:31 PM Subject: [ANS] Kelleher Family of Balmain > Greetings Listers > Is anyone researching the Kelleher family of Balmain in the period from > about 1860 to 1900 > I would love to swap notes > Patrick Callaghan > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would any lister be researching the William & Eliza MORRISON family of Gordon Street, Paddington 1890-1920+ Kevin Central Qld

Greetings Listers Is anyone researching the Kelleher family of Balmain in the period from about 1860 to 1900 I would love to swap notes Patrick Callaghan

Dear Patsy, I am thrilled for you. It's a great feeling. Cheers, Laraine -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-sydney-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Patsy McMillan Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 2:02 PM To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANS] FOUND THEM!!! thanks heaps Hi Listers Just a punt here for posting a letter to the local Sydney newspapers. They were published within a day of me emailing. I had addresses from listers one for the SMH RSVP@smh.com.au and one for the Daily Telegrapn letters@dailytelegraph.com.au I posted emails away to both on Friday and today received contact from a cousin!! FINALLY after 20 years I have found someone from my Dad's family I am absolutely thrilled so a big thanks to everyone who helped cheers from over the ditch Patsy Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers Just a punt here for posting a letter to the local Sydney newspapers. They were published within a day of me emailing. I had addresses from listers one for the SMH RSVP@smh.com.au and one for the Daily Telegrapn letters@dailytelegraph.com.au I posted emails away to both on Friday and today received contact from a cousin!! FINALLY after 20 years I have found someone from my Dad's family I am absolutely thrilled so a big thanks to everyone who helped cheers from over the ditch Patsy

> St. Peters Church Cooks River at 187 Princes Highway St. Peters is > open on Saturday, 3rd March from 1.30 p.m.-4.30 p.m.for genealogical > research associated with the death, marriage and baptismal registers, > and to view the historic church and its graveyard.The church was built > of sun dried brick in 1838 and its graveyard in the following > year.VariousD.V.D.'s can be viewed on various aspects of the church. > Of particular interest may be one on the history of the church. > The Prime Minister's, family tree was published recently in a > Saturday's Telegraph.John Howard's great, great grandmother Elizabeth > Howard is buried in the graveyard of St Peters Anglican Church on the > Princes Highway at St Peters. > Her son Jesse, the prime minister's great grandfather, and his family > feature in church records. Jesse's nephew, James, aged 19 was killed > in an accident and is also buried in the graveyard and some of Jesse > and Ellen's children were baptised at the church. > The letters of the curate of the church in the 1870's mention these > people - > Thursday, February 12th, 1874 - The funeral this afternoon was to come > at three and did not appear until past five o'clock. The funeral was a > young fellow who was killed yesterday, about eighteen, named James > Howard, brickcarter, St Peters. He was crushed to death between two > carts at the intersection of Parramatta Street, Harris Street and > Regent Street, driver of the other cart, Henry Morgan,was charged with > manslaughter but was found not guilty.There was a large gathering in > the church and at the grave, especially of young men. > Thursday,April 23rd, 1874 - Fine. More visiting and some of it very > interesting. One woman, a Mrs Ellen Howard, May Street, when we had > entered into conversation, told me that she was very anxious of > salvation some years ago and wanted some one to help her and teach > her. Her children, Edith born 1868, Clara born 1870, Walter born 1872, > Stanley born 1874, were playing there, she pointed to one of them and > said,"His name is Stanley. My neighbour stood for him and would have > him called Stanley after you!" > Saturday, May 9th, 1874 - In the afternoon I was visiting, I am still > on the 'flat' but near the McDonald Town end, where I shall go next.I > fell into conversation with a respectable looking brickmaker who had > just finished his week's work. I discovered he had read 'Joseph > Butler's Analogy' and many books of a similar and dissimilar kind, > e.g. George Buckle's works and others on subjects like that.I thought > it a strange thing for a brickmaker. It turned out that his name was > Howard too, Jesse Howard, the father of little Stanley Howard I spoke > of. > These letters have been published in the book 'Stanley' which is > available from the church. (Details on church website - > www.cooksriver.net.) > Jesse Howards is also mentioned in an article which appeared in the > The Clay Products Journal Of Australia. > Alfred Dawes Reminiscences > January 1, 1936 > 'Jesse Howard was a brickmaker who worked on the Waterloo Flat. He was > also a musician, a phrenologist and an astronomer. When I was quite a > small lad I remember having my head read by him, but I cannot recall > what the result was. He was a very good lecturer, and often commanded > good audiences to hear him. He was well informed regarding the solar > system, and on Saturday evenings, when the weather and other > conditions permitted, he would station himself on the Newtown railway > bridge with his large telescope, and charge a small fee for permission > to view the moon and stars etc, through the instrument. At the same > time he would explain to the observer the names and qualities of the > planets and answer questions about them.' > Make up your own mind as to whether genetically there was amongst this > family of 19th century working class brickmakers of St. Peters > something which would provide us with our present prime minister. > Another date for your diary 31st March from 2.00 p.m.- 4.00 p.m. Join > us on a walking tour of the Tempe area. Relive the past through the > history of its people and places.It's free, enquires and bookings > either by email or 'phone (02) 95587504.Bookings essential as there > is a limit on numbers of people. > Bob and Laurel Horton. St. Peters Cooks River History Group. > > >

Hi Listers Ellen Scard arrived in Sydney about 1866 with her husband Thomas Scard (a Surgeon) leaving their only child, Madeline, in England. They lived in Ryde, then later Balmain where he was a registered surgeon. Thomas declared insolvent - he died in 1871 - Ellen and Thomas were living at 131 William St Wooloomooloo. Daughter Madeline arrived from England in 1874 - Ellen Scard was in Sydney - possibly Balmain. Madeline married first in 1876, then later in 1917. Madeline's 2nd marriage certificate states her mother Ellen Neden is deceased. I can find a marriage of Ellen Scard to Thomas Moursteven Wright in 1880 in Bulladelah (have certificate but no way of knowing if it is the correct Ellen) but cannot find a marriage of Ellen Wright to a Neden or a death of Ellen Neden. Anyone any ideas for my "brick wall"? Lyn Sydney

Joy, thank you so much for the idea "Ask a Librarian" I didn't think of that and will keep it all in mind. Marg, thank you also for your lovely long email and for the information you sent to me. That seems to be the right Irene F Smith, and thank you for the date. Now I have that I will check a few other places I know of, I will let you know if anything comes from that searching. Yes, it is getting easier now with the computers and I always appreciate any help given to me by any one. I used to do all my own researching and spent twenty years helping others with their researching. Bill, thank you too for your email and the suggestions, I have enough now to follow up a bit more. I hope all these suggestions help others too. Genie (rainy Liverpool N S W)

Hi Marg, Am going away for a week or two, how do I unsubscribe from ANS please? ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Irene Smith- Gosford ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Genie" <wi.nash@bigpond.net.au> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [ANS] Irene Smith- Gosford ? > > > Hi Genie > > Thank you so much for the email and your kind offer, > > being a pensioner I > > find it hard to get information these days. > > I am one of those too but find info is getting easier to > get all the time > > I am not as young or as active > > as I used to be. > > > Me neither > > > Any little bit would be very much appreciated. I did check > > every thing I could find on the internet before I asked > > for help. I don't > > understand as I have seen so many people helping others > > on these mailing > > lists. Does it depend on the list or just the > > listers???? > > It depends on a lot of things ......... whether some one > knows the answer, knows where to go to get answer, & has > time and inclination to do it > > All I have is > > from the Ryerson Index and this shows Ettalong which I > > took to be up the > > Central Coast as the B D M index for Irene Frances Smith > > shows her death > > registered at Gosford. > > I checked Creightons fiche at Tuggarah Library . They did > the funeral of an Irene F SMITH who d 29 Dec 1968 and > whose remains were sent to Newtown > > Was no Geo Hy .......... I just noticed your earlier > message about Geo Hy being a mistake / should be Edward > SMITH d 23 Mar 1973 . > > Will check this out ASAP > > Bye > > MargM > Sydney List Admin > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Genie Check whether or not your State Library has the newspaper. If they do, I am sure there is a page, where there is a service called "Ask a Librarian". if you have the exact date of the notice which as suggested you will get from the Ryerson index, they may email you with the information. Actually Genie the State Library of NSW and Victoria both have these services. That may be the way to go. Regards Joy Light

----- Original Message ----- From: "Genie" <wi.nash@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Irene Smith- Gosford ? Hi Genie > Thank you so much for the email and your kind offer, > being a pensioner I > find it hard to get information these days. I am one of those too but find info is getting easier to get all the time I am not as young or as active > as I used to be. Me neither Any little bit would be very much appreciated. I did check > every thing I could find on the internet before I asked > for help. I don't > understand as I have seen so many people helping others > on these mailing > lists. Does it depend on the list or just the > listers???? It depends on a lot of things ......... whether some one knows the answer, knows where to go to get answer, & has time and inclination to do it All I have is > from the Ryerson Index and this shows Ettalong which I > took to be up the > Central Coast as the B D M index for Irene Frances Smith > shows her death > registered at Gosford. I checked Creightons fiche at Tuggarah Library . They did the funeral of an Irene F SMITH who d 29 Dec 1968 and whose remains were sent to Newtown Was no Geo Hy .......... I just noticed your earlier message about Geo Hy being a mistake / should be Edward SMITH d 23 Mar 1973 . Will check this out ASAP Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Dear Genie, If you have the information from the Ryerson Index it has been indexed from a newspaper, and the date of publication and the code of the paper is on the Ryerson Index. Near the Browse button on the main page of the Ryerson Index there is also a "Request a Lookup" button. By opening up that page a form will pop up for you to fill in to request a lookup of the wording of the notice. In all probability the Central Coast paper will be a combined Death and Funeral Notice, and from that you should find burial information. Hope this helps Sincerely,Bill > Dear Marg, > > Thank you so much for the email and your kind offer, being a pensioner I > find it hard to get information these days. I am not as young or as > active