Thanks to all who responded to my query re Andrew, Ellen OLSEN in Little Bay. Really appreciate your efforts. Jean Harm Bob & Jean Harm GYMPIE QLD harmrj@spiderweb.com.au

Hi Listers, I have noticed that many listers use "?" as a sign for "£". Although most Australian key boards do not have the "£" symbol it can be inserted by hitting "Alt156" Cheers Peter Strauss Melbournre

Hi Sherrie Ada could not spell, she was listed in the 1903 PO Directory under Diny, couldn't find Samuel in the same directory. On Ada's Marriage cert (1897) to Samuel DENNEY she is listed as Ada OLSEN, 31 years age, widow, father Alexander SMITH, mother Margaret WILSON. On her death cert (1943) Ada Denney, 82 years, father Garrard SMITH, mother Margaret WILSON. Place of marr, age, and to whom 1) not known, 2) 14 years 3) Arthur OLSEN, issue Sidney 56yrs, Harry 54 yrs, Arthur 50yrs living none deceased 2nd marriage 1) not known, 2) 37 yrs, Samuel DENNEY, issue John 41 yrs, Samuel 41 yrs, Elsie 35 yrs living none deceased. On my Grandfathers birth certificate (1900) younger born of twins, she is listed as 1) Ada Edith JONES, late WILSON, late OLSEN now DENNEY age 32yrs. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherrie Blackman" Subject: Re: [ANS] OLSEN > This appears to be Sidney's marriage.... > 9863/1900 - OLSEN SYDNEY J & OWEN LILLIE - WICKHAM NSW > could this be Sydney's death? seems like nobody is sure Olsen's snr's 1st > name lol > > 23579/1954 - OLSEN SYDNEY JOSEPH - ALEXANDER & ADA EDITH - NEWCASTLE > > I wonder if this is Henry jnr's death... > > 21630/1944 - OLSEN HENRY - SIDNEY & ADA - WEST WALLSEND > > Where do the names 'Wilson, Jones & Dawson' fit in? > > Kind regards, > Sherrie.

Hi Margaret, Perhaps you may have to look at the children's marriage certificates for information? This appears to be Sidney's marriage.... 9863/1900 - OLSEN SYDNEY J & OWEN LILLIE - WICKHAM NSW Perhaps Sydney's marriage certificate may mention his correct 'place of birth' which would give you a starting point. :) could this be Sydney's death? seems like nobody is sure Olsen's snr's 1st name lol 23579/1954 - OLSEN SYDNEY JOSEPH - ALEXANDER & ADA EDITH - NEWCASTLE I wonder if this is Henry jnr's death... 21630/1944 - OLSEN HENRY - SIDNEY & ADA - WEST WALLSEND Where do the names 'Wilson, Jones & Dawson' fit in? Kind regards, Sherrie. -- http://www.silkweb.com.au/ On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:24:44 +1000, MargaretB <mbergies@kooee.com.au> wrote: > My Olsens > > Arthur OLSEN, b: unknown, d: unknown m: Cal 1880 to Ada Edith SMITH. > Issue; Sidney Joseph b: cal 1880, Henry b; cal 1887, Arthur b; cal 1893. > Information from gggrandmother Ada's death certificate, 2nd marriage to > gggrandfather Samuel DENNEY. > > Have been unable to find a birth, death or marriage for this couple. > Ada changed surnames possibly four times, Smith, Wilson, Jones & Dawson > now > DENNEY on marriage certificate. > > MargaretB > Lake Macquarie > NSW Australia >

My Olsens Arthur OLSEN, b: unknown, d: unknown m: Cal 1880 to Ada Edith SMITH. Issue; Sidney Joseph b: cal 1880, Henry b; cal 1887, Arthur b; cal 1893. Information from gggrandmother Ada's death certificate, 2nd marriage to gggrandfather Samuel DENNEY. Have been unable to find a birth, death or marriage for this couple. Ada changed surnames possibly four times, Smith, Wilson, Jones & Dawson now DENNEY on marriage certificate. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Dear Jean, There is an index, I think at the Society of Australian Genealogists in SYDNEY, from a Cemetery within the grounds of the Coast Hospital, which later became Prince Henry Hospital, and has now been bulldozed and sold by our money hungry government for residential development. Part of the hospital was for infectious diseases, and it appears they buried them on site. Just might be worth a look. Sincerely,Bill >I am searching for information on Andrew OLSEN, died in the Coast Hospital, >Little Bay on 31 December 1898, Age 41. > He was born in Hillsenberg Sweden c. 1857, married in Brisbane in 1886 to > Ellen Callighan.

My Olsens Erik Alexander Olsen bn 1859 was from Tjore Norway He married Grace Taper In Kiama NSW 1887 they had 8 children Eric the 1st 1888 bn Cooma ,Kathleen Campbelltown Veronica in Kiama the next 4 from 1896 to 1906 were bn in Gosford Agnes Raymond Patrick and Marie Unfortunately not matching the Swedish Olsens recently searching Christene

Hello Jean Sorry but I am unable to help with your search all the best Patrick Callaghan ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. & J. Harm" <harmrj@spiderweb.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:30 AM Subject: [ANS] Andrew OLSEN > I am searching for information on Andrew OLSEN, died in the Coast Hospital, Little Bay on 31 December 1898, Age 41. > He was born in Hillsenberg Sweden c. 1857, married in Brisbane in 1886 to Ellen Callighan. > They had 3 children living in 1898, Charles 10, Michael 8 and Catherine 4. > Andrew's occupation is listed as seaman. > I had another Andrew Olsen and wife Britta Marie also living at Little Bay. Britta died in the Coast Hospital Little Bay in 1899. > I am trying to establish if there was a relationship between the two families. > > Jean Harm > GYMPIE QLD > harmrj@spiderweb.com.au > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am searching for information on Andrew OLSEN, died in the Coast Hospital, Little Bay on 31 December 1898, Age 41. He was born in Hillsenberg Sweden c. 1857, married in Brisbane in 1886 to Ellen Callighan. They had 3 children living in 1898, Charles 10, Michael 8 and Catherine 4. Andrew's occupation is listed as seaman. I had another Andrew Olsen and wife Britta Marie also living at Little Bay. Britta died in the Coast Hospital Little Bay in 1899. I am trying to establish if there was a relationship between the two families. Jean Harm GYMPIE QLD harmrj@spiderweb.com.au

Hello, I am researching the name TURNELL - my g.grandmother Elizabeth (Young) PERRY and her first husband, William PERRY, had a daughter, Elizabeth b.23.7.1866, 'Wivenhoe', Cobbitty NSW. She married Richard TURNELL b.Bethnal Green, England in 1859 to Richard Turnell & Elizabeth Ann HOLMER,on 14th March 1885. Witnesses to the marriage; William NERRIN & Elizabeth JONES. Richard & Elizabeth had three children, Richard St. Johns Turnell, b. Petersham 6.10.1885: Ida St. Johns Turnell, b. Camperdown 4.1.1890, d. 1891: Leslie St. Johns Turnell, b.12.3.1892, Drummoyne. Known addresses: 1885 Print St., Woolloomoolloo: Little Palmer Street, Sydney. Middle Street, Petersham. "Fortuna", Renwick Street, Drummoyne. 5 Bedford Crescent, Marrickville. Also business address of TURNELL & BARBER. Contractors. c. 1915-1917 Elizabeth was living at 92 York St., Westminster, SW London. England. 1927 Richard's occupation was Building Contractor, residing 204 Military Road, Cremorne: 1932-3 resided at 66 Grosvenor Street, Cremorne. According the AIF WW1 records of Richard's brother-in-law, James John Jones, also known as James John Black (from Elizabeth Perry's 2nd marriage toWm. Henry JONES) he served his apprenticeship with Richard TURNELL at Camperdown. Elizabeth died on 10th June 1928, Burilda Private Hospital, Ashfield, buried 11.6.1928 Nthn. Suburbs Church of England Cemetery (now Macquarie Gardens, Delhi Rd., North Ryde) Informant - son - Richad St.J. Turnell, 204 Military Road, Neutral Bay. NSW. Her son Richard , was buried in the same grave on 6th July 1951. Regards, Joan. Sydney. NSW.

Obviously, not my day today - addressed it to the wrong list. Noel

Alison My mistake - it should be 25 km per day not KPH. Sorry! Noel

Hi Alison Bothwell, I understand, is approximately 75 km from Hobart. A horse travels at walking pace at approximately 5 km per hour. If it were a heavy horse it would walk slower than a light horse and drawing a load such as a cart which might or might not be loaded would have an influence. Taking into account that the road was probably longer in the old days - around hills and through creeks, etc. I would estimate that it would probably take 3 days. It would all depend on the size of the load, the quality of the horse and the state of the road! Rest periods, and again the quality of the horse, and whether the driver was an easy or a hard man with a horse, would also be a part of it. I would say, 25kph with a loaded cart would be somewhere to start, but others may have different opinions. Hope this might be of some help. Cheers Noel

Dear Graham, In 1848 Wellingrove was a run of 50,000 acres on the Severn river near present day Glen Innes. Today the name applies to a township and to a parish in the County of Gough. A google map should pinpoint the town for you. At the back of my mind is the thought that in times gone by Wellingrove as registration district for BDM covered more than just the parish. Today one wouldn't consider it to be part of Tamworth, but back in 1839 one of my rels held a licence for a run adjoining Wellingrove and that property has often been reported as being at Tamworth. Name changes with time just add to the challenges. Cheers, Jocelyn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris & Graham Brittain" <iona9@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] WELLINGROVE Hi Graham > I have a brother of my GG Grandfather who was born in > Melbourne in 1848 and > I believe he died in Tamworth in 1938. Will purchase a > certificate in the > first instance to make sure its him. The death > certificate may reveal more > details, if known to the informant. > > The NSW index also turns up two marriages in the > appropriate years and some > likely births. Births on CD and fiche for NSW to to 1918, on line only to 1906 > > Just trying to avoid buying too many dud certificates. > There are 3 transcription agents that go to the NSW Registry you can get partial info from any of them to check its the right body , You save about $10 by getting a transcription Full info in on the Registry web site www.bdm.nsw.gov.au What was his name ? He might be in the 1915 Sands PO Dir ? I have this on a CD Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Greetings Thank you for the replies. Its always hard to know if its best to keep the questions short or go for the long winded story. I have a brother of my GG Grandfather who was born in Melbourne in 1848 and I believe he died in Tamworth in 1938. Will purchase a certificate in the first instance to make sure its him. The death certificate may reveal more details, if known to the informant. The NSW index also turns up two marriages in the appropriate years and some likely births. The most likely marriage gave the district as Wellingrove, and I suspected that it may have included the Tamworth area. Glenn Innes isn't all that far away so that one looks like a good bet for starters. Having said that there is a more remote chance that he may have married in Vic, as there is a much later one there. The thought was that Wellingrove was an like an electoral district, or a county. I am not familiar with NSW geography. Just trying to avoid buying too many dud certificates. Thanks for the help. Regards Graham Melbourne. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Wilkinson" <jacwil@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: [ANS] WELLINGROVE > Hi Graham > > Wellingrove is near Glen Innes. It is NW of Glen Innes, the turn off to there is north on the road from GI to Inverell. I have had a few certificate entries for Wellingrove for people living in the Glen Innes area. Hope this helps. > > Noel > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Graham Wellingrove is near Glen Innes. It is NW of Glen Innes, the turn off to there is north on the road from GI to Inverell. I have had a few certificate entries for Wellingrove for people living in the Glen Innes area. Hope this helps. Noel

Hi Graham Wellingrove is in the Glen Innes area. Its 23 klms north west of Glen Innes. The Glen Innes Family history Society are very helpful. Rose-Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris & Graham Brittain" <iona9@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: [ANS] Wellingrove > Greetings > > Could SKS please tell me if Tamworth is in the district of Wellingrove. > > Regards > > Graham > > Melbourne > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] > > > --- > [ This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Caloundra InterNet ] > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 > 7:58 PM > > --- [ This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Caloundra InterNet ]

Greetings Could SKS please tell me if Tamworth is in the district of Wellingrove. Regards Graham Melbourne

Hi List, Many many thanks to John T, Laurel & Tony for the links, info and reminiscious on the above church.I appreciate the time you took to do the research and posting.I thought I was on the right track with the Church going Coptic but I would've hated recording the wrong church.It would kinda ruin my week! Hope I get to return the favour one day. Regards Rob Central Coast